Cestrian Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) Discuss. Edited 10 April, 2012 by Cestrian Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 They will deny it until our p*ss-poor performances and form cause us to drop out of the top two. Probably this weekend. Looking at the other teams in the top ten, I reckon we will struggle to maintain a play-off place now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 It's very possible that we can do another run like we did towards the end of last season. Get the injured back and 3 extra players in then we can win 10 straight easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Back in December I started a thread in which I said I didn't see Saints going up automatically. I pointed out that our poor away form did little to suggest we'd get anything away from home at the likes of Boro, WHU, Brum & Blackpool. Why would anybody think we could win these games when we can't beat Bristol City or Doncaster? I received a host of abusive private messages for expressing my opinion and my reasons behind it. Eventually the thread was removed by the mods. I'm just wondering if anybody has now grasped what I was trying to say? Too many injuries, tricky away fixtures, no sign of any quality signings and now our home form has hit a slump. When will people realise that we are not going up automatically??? In December ? You Jonny come lately ! I said it before the season kicked off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) Tonight just highlights the fact that the depth of our squad is not good enough. We lack experience, pace and power and it's been massively highlighted tonight. I should add that brining Lambert, Chaplow, Fonte and Lallana would help as well. Edited 23 January, 2012 by sambosa75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 F*ck me, the negative know it alls are out in force tonight aren't they? Yes, well done pal, you've given up already. You continue doing that. As far as I can see there's still just under half a season yet to play in this campaign; is it really that surprising that a lot of others aren't quite ready to unfurl the white flag of surrender just yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 F*ck me, the negative know it alls are out in force tonight aren't they? Yes, well done pal, you've given up already. You continue doing that. As far as I can see there's still just under half a season yet to play in this campaign; is it really that surprising that a lot of others aren't quite ready to unfurl the white flag of surrender just yet? Who is talking of surrender ? Maybe, just like the chaps down in the trenches during WW1, recognition of a lost cause might make a few players fight a bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Watching that has got to worry all of us. We were beaten easily....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 The generic loss inspired crisis threads are already online. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 We need a few players back from injury/suspension and a couple of quality signings. Totally pointless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Back in December I started a thread in which I said I didn't see Saints going up automatically. I pointed out that our poor away form did little to suggest we'd get anything away from home at the likes of Boro, WHU, Brum & Blackpool. Why would anybody think we could win these games when we can't beat Bristol City or Doncaster? I received a host of abusive private messages for expressing my opinion and my reasons behind it. Eventually the thread was removed by the mods. I'm just wondering if anybody has now grasped what I was trying to say? Too many injuries, tricky away fixtures, no sign of any quality signings and now our home form has hit a slump. When will people realise that we are not going up automatically??? Not you again you fecking skate. Pm-ing me you're a skate and what am I gonna do about it!??! Please people don't be taken in by this silly inbred skate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 If in doubt, get the ignore button out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 F*ck me, the negative know it alls are out in force tonight aren't they? Yes, well done pal, you've given up already. You continue doing that. As far as I can see there's still just under half a season yet to play in this campaign; is it really that surprising that a lot of others aren't quite ready to unfurl the white flag of surrender just yet? Tell me about it! For god sake. I'm out of here, gonna blow a fuse in a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 F*ck me, the negative know it alls are out in force tonight aren't they? Yes, well done pal, you've given up already. You continue doing that. As far as I can see there's still just under half a season yet to play in this campaign; is it really that surprising that a lot of others aren't quite ready to unfurl the white flag of surrender just yet? Surrender ? I was clear at the start of the season that I saw this season as about consolidation and our timid work in the summer transfer market made it clear that that is what we would get this season. I enjoyed and was surprised by our brilliant start by a good team but did not waver in my assertion that the squad was not good enough. So it is starting to be, but I am not disappointed with my prediction at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) Who is talking of surrender ? Maybe, just like the chaps down in the trenches during WW1, recognition of a lost cause might make a few players fight a bit harder. Oh well. The dream of PL football was nice while it lasted. Time to start planning for next season in the NPC, doing the transfers properly in the summer, and the new promotion push. No, no-one is surrendering. Edited 23 January, 2012 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 The generic loss inspired crisis threads are already online. Brilliant. Crisis ? What crisis ? We are not in the relegation zone ! Stop being a big girls blouse and get behind the club. A mid or lower mid table finish will be a fine achievement for at team that has just been promoted. FFS some posters in here want to get a dose of realism ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Back in December I started a thread in which I said I didn't see Saints going up automatically. I pointed out that our poor away form did little to suggest we'd get anything away from home at the likes of Boro, WHU, Brum & Blackpool. Why would anybody think we could win these games when we can't beat Bristol City or Doncaster? I received a host of abusive private messages for expressing my opinion and my reasons behind it. Eventually the thread was removed by the mods. I'm just wondering if anybody has now grasped what I was trying to say? Too many injuries, tricky away fixtures, no sign of any quality signings and now our home form has hit a slump. When will people realise that we are not going up automatically??? Well, thanks so much for saying it again. I'm not going to 'realise' anything, there is still half a season to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 No, no-one is surrendering. I havent given up, but it is a folorn hope. Hows that different from the soldier analogy ? They went and did their best to survive, knowing the chances were slim, but at least existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 F*ck me, the negative know it alls are out in force tonight aren't they? Yes, well done pal, you've given up already. You continue doing that. As far as I can see there's still just under half a season yet to play in this campaign; is it really that surprising that a lot of others aren't quite ready to unfurl the white flag of surrender just yet? It is NOT negative to want your football club to do well - that is dedicated support for the club, but it doesn't mean you give mindless approval to mistakes made by the people making the decisions on transfers and selection, any more than you give mindless support to a player who is not performing. There are 19 qames left to turn it round, but the team has been poor now for nearly 2 months so things will not change by doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 They will deny it until our p*ss-poor performances and form cause us to drop out of the top two. Probably this weekend. Looking at the other teams in the top ten, I reckon we will struggle to maintain a play-off place now. Tell me which of the 4 Championship teams playing this weekend will replace us? Bet you can't, tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 They will deny it until our p*ss-poor performances and form cause us to drop out of the top two. Probably this weekend. Looking at the other teams in the top ten, I reckon we will struggle to maintain a play-off place now. Tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 It is NOT negative to want your football club to do well - that is dedicated support for the club, but it doesn't mean you give mindless approval to mistakes made by the people making the decisions on transfers and selection, any more than you give mindless support to a player who is not performing. There are 19 qames left to turn it round, but the team has been poor now for nearly 2 months so things will not change by doing nothing. We're not doing nothing though, are we? Explain how signing two players and trying for more is doing nothing, would you please? The manager realises our shortfalls; we have limited options up front, which are exposed by having Lambert (the division's top scorer) and Lallana (the division's best attacking player) unavailable. 5 goals in two games without Lambert suggested we adapted ok without our most potent strike force; tonight was a performance that is best forgotten, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone to disagree with that.. Not many people will or should try to airbrush our recent form or tonight's performance from memory. Giving up on the team is another thing altogether, and one which I won't do even when (like right now) I'm ridden with doubt about our prospects for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Back in December I started a thread in which I said I didn't see Saints going up automatically. I pointed out that our poor away form did little to suggest we'd get anything away from home at the likes of Boro, WHU, Brum & Blackpool. Why would anybody think we could win these games when we can't beat Bristol City or Doncaster? I received a host of abusive private messages for expressing my opinion and my reasons behind it. Eventually the thread was removed by the mods. I'm just wondering if anybody has now grasped what I was trying to say? Too many injuries, tricky away fixtures, no sign of any quality signings and now our home form has hit a slump. When will people realise that we are not going up automatically???[/ I hate you and people like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.sj Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 All the usual gloom merchants out tonight. This is what I think. Tonight Leicester were better than us in every department. They deserved to win. Look at their squad, they should be above us. They arent though because we have had a brilliant first half of the season, better than I and probably every one else thought. As Adkins has said its about where we are at the end of the season. Its not about one game so get over it, keep your heads. If the players lost their heads like some of you lot we would be falling down the league for sure. Get perspective. How would you be feeling if we had been outside the top six all season but had won the last 5 games and had just won and gone second? Youd be thinking we were the best team in the league, unbeatable and were going to win the league. Calm down, bad result, not the best performance but we are second with over half the season gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 All the usual gloom merchants out tonight. This is what I think. Tonight Leicester were better than us in every department. They deserved to win. Look at their squad, they should be above us. They arent though because we have had a brilliant first half of the season, better than I and probably every one else thought. As Adkins has said its about where we are at the end of the season. Its not about one game so get over it, keep your heads. If the players lost their heads like some of you lot we would be falling down the league for sure. Get perspective. How would you be feeling if we had been outside the top six all season but had won the last 5 games and had just won and gone second? Youd be thinking we were the best team in the league, unbeatable and were going to win the league. Calm down, bad result, not the best performance but we are second with over half the season gone. Fair point. But the difference is that we would be bouyed by a swing up to 2nd or top 6 rather than a slide down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Fair point. But the difference is that we would be bouyed by a swing up to 2nd or top 6 rather than a slide down. What slide? We've been top 2 for how looooooong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawlmatth Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 **** off you stupid dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawlmatth Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 typo sorry..... **** off you stupid dalek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 If we play like we did tonight on a regular basis, we'll struggle to finish top 6 - let alone top 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 typo sorry..... **** off you stupid dalekYou can edit your posts you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 ****ing early for annual "concentrate on play offs" tossers to be out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Tell me which of the 4 Championship teams playing this weekend will replace us? Bet you can't, tosser.Dear Victor, it might be worth getting your head out of the sand while we are still in the top two because one point to third place is looking very fragile and even 5 points to 4th or 5th can melt away as fast as the 5 point lead at the top has done. It doesn't have to happen, but it needs some firm action to turn things round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Some people really make me cringe. Where were we last season, where. As a club we have made massive strides forward - probably over achieved if truth be known. Our standards have been so high that it is difficult to replicate them week in, week out. We should be a team that is consolodating it's position in this league having just been promoted, but we have played so well - we are currently second. Second in the Championship. Our home form (over the course of the season) has been awsome - our away form is picking up. We have one bad day and the fans want to throw in the towel. What exactly did you expect - how many of you actually thought we would be where we are tonight. Most of you are only moaning because we have hit a mini slump. Had we not been top most of the season and worked our way up into this position I suspect that your perspective would be totally different. We are second - still in the mix - with players to come back. Get some perspective - please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 If in doubt, get the ignore button out. That's a really bad solution just trying to ignore the problems... which is why I feel particularly bad about putting a whopping 3 users on ignore tonight C'mon people, it's football and we're not prophets. Let's take it one game at a time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 We're not going up, but away form is the symptom not the problem. The squad just isn't good enough and home advantage and the winning run gave us a boost while it lasted. Never mind away form. We're struggling for home form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 All the usual gloom merchants out tonight. This is what I think. Tonight Leicester were better than us in every department. They deserved to win. Look at their squad, they should be above us. They arent though because we have had a brilliant first half of the season, better than I and probably every one else thought. As Adkins has said its about where we are at the end of the season. Its not about one game so get over it, keep your heads. If the players lost their heads like some of you lot we would be falling down the league for sure. Get perspective. How would you be feeling if we had been outside the top six all season but had won the last 5 games and had just won and gone second? Youd be thinking we were the best team in the league, unbeatable and were going to win the league. Calm down, bad result, not the best performance but we are second with over half the season gone. Exactly right. I know emotions get the better of people but all this 'look at me, I predicted Saints would start to f**k up before everyone else' doesn't really cut it. If you go into games hoping the team fails so that you can say 'I was right' then whats the point in any of it? Worst performance of the season, yes. Important players out, yes. Will we perform better V Cardiff, yes. Do we need to press the panic button and predict a collapse and 15th place finish after losing to a good Leicester side with a good game plan and good manager, NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Exactly right. I know emotions get the better of people but all this 'look at me, I predicted Saints would start to f**k up before everyone else' doesn't really cut it. If you go into games hoping the team fails so that you can say 'I was right' then whats the point in any of it? Worst performance of the season, yes. Important players out, yes. Will we perform better V Cardiff, yes. Do we need to press the panic button and predict a collapse and 15th place finish after losing to a good Leicester side with a good game plan and good manager, NO! Absolutely agree. Too many doom merchants around theses days. Of course we were poort today and yet we had some good chances which on another day could have secured us a lucky draw. Let's move on to Cardiff knowing that if we beat them we go 4 points clear of 3rd place. Still a good position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 23 January, 2012 Share Posted 23 January, 2012 Exactly right. I know emotions get the better of people but all this 'look at me, I predicted Saints would start to f**k up before everyone else' doesn't really cut it. If you go into games hoping the team fails so that you can say 'I was right' then whats the point in any of it? Worst performance of the season, yes. Important players out, yes. Will we perform better V Cardiff, yes. Do we need to press the panic button and predict a collapse and 15th place finish after losing to a good Leicester side with a good game plan and good manager, NO! It's amazing how often I find that posters who don't post very frequently often speak the most sence. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Sorry but what a load of **** from the usual wrist slitters. I still think we will finish top 2 because with the injuries back and one or 2 additions we will be fine, just like we were for the first half of season. At least when we were winning most weeks this place was less predictable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Jump off a bloody cliff then if our season is going to be so bad. Honestly some people are just glory seeking arrogant know it alls. We have performed well this season and are still in the top two with a lot of players out. We have the chance to strengthen now but lets be a bit better than this as supporters because it doesn't look good when supporters turn on their team especially when we are second however bad the performance was last night and it was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Back in December I started a thread in which I said I didn't see Saints going up automatically. I pointed out that our poor away form did little to suggest we'd get anything away from home at the likes of Boro, WHU, Brum & Blackpool. Why would anybody think we could win these games when we can't beat Bristol City or Doncaster? I received a host of abusive private messages for expressing my opinion and my reasons behind it. Eventually the thread was removed by the mods. I'm just wondering if anybody has now grasped what I was trying to say? Too many injuries, tricky away fixtures, no sign of any quality signings and now our home form has hit a slump. When will people realise that we are not going up automatically??? I'm most comforted by your viewpoint, given that you posted this on August 8, 2010: I'm negative because I don't think we're as good a team as everybody likes to think. I don't believe we'll be promoted this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Who is talking of surrender ? Maybe, just like the chaps down in the trenches during WW1, recognition of a lost cause might make a few players fight a bit harder. We won the First World War, or did you forget? Let's see. We had a team that in half a season got us to the top of the Championship,(or second if you wish to be pedantic.) Why can't we achieve the same in the next half, with our stars back? We've hit a rough patch, lets be honest, and I would like to see us bring in the players we require to have depth in the squad, but by the bits we DO know, we are trying. And by the simple fact that we don't do things in the public eye, probably trying hard, and in places we probably wouldn't imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Dear Victor, it might be worth getting your head out of the sand while we are still in the top two because one point to third place is looking very fragile and even 5 points to 4th or 5th can melt away as fast as the 5 point lead at the top has done. It doesn't have to happen, but it needs some firm action to turn things round. Dear Professor, What exactly is your field of expertise? It is clearly not logic as I was simply picking up Alpine on his claim that we could fall out of the top 2 this weekend. How is that "head in sand"? Neither can it be mathematics; the only Championship teams playing this weekend are Peterborough, Portsmouth, Reading and Bristol City. The highest placed of these, Reading, has 42 points. We have 50. I think you should change your sobriquet/pseudonym. May I suggest 'Dunce'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 24 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Not you again you fecking skate. Pm-ing me you're a skate and what am I gonna do about it!??! Please people don't be taken in by this silly inbred skate You really are full of crap. I never sent a PM saying I was a skate. You're a bloody liar!!! Skates don't go on pre season tour to Sweden! You *****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 It could go either way. We have over achieved with the squad we have got. We could do a Blackpool (when they were in the Prem) and slip back badly in the second half and finish midtable. We could also invest to stabilise with fresh blood and probably make the playoffs. I cannot see us staying in the top two. WHU will go up as Champions and probably Cardiff or Birmingham will finish second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Bad news: http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D1/oform.html Good news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/table/default.stm Anything in between would be highly subjective as in 'matter of belief' ("we will not be promoted", "we will finish 17th", "we will play in the PL next season"). I believe we will be promoted because that's what I wish for. I may be proven wrong but I don't like to cross the bridge till I get to it (if that's the expression)... And yes, I realise I may be setting myself up for a HUGE disappointment, but to me that's part of football - if you can't handle defeat (as a player or a fan) you should take up knitting instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niemi14 Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 This is the most depressing website ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 This is the most depressing website ever. LOL - you're absolutely right And considering the BBC link in post #47 that's just unbelievable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 oh how it must be so good to think you may have predicted failure.. You doom and gloom merchants are pathetic, i just hope you dont have kids because with your negative approach to life i doubt they get any encouragement or SUPPORT from you and more than likely should they ever make a mistake or underperforn in something you will likely just ghve up on them..... If you approach that you wrap up as 'realistic' is the only viewpoint within the club then why do they bother. Elite individuals and coaches will be able to see all angles,* the positives, the negatives, the reality position, the options available, the utopia position, the inhibitors, and the energy required to achieve the goals neccessary to achieve sustained success. Thankfully Im certain NA and NC work within that type of framework sn i have no doubt that they will achieve their aims this year you self proclaimed realist of failure merchants do not deserve to have the association of success. I bet you only turn up for the best or worst bits and either say i told you so or we wont go up next season. I hope your lives are full of a million set-back because that will make you so happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
influx Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 God we have some ****e fans! oooh look at me, i was right all along. **** off!! Alpine saint says "They will deny it until our p*ss-poor performances and form cause us to drop out of the top two. Probably this weekend" And I bet you've got a thread already typed up, ready to say I told you so long ago, loook at meeeee, looook at meeee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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