up and away Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 All this talk of what has JP done and what hasn't he done......lets just remember when he came back from Millwall on loan last January he was bought back into the first team fold immediately and played against Blackpool in the FA Cup. The following midweek there was an away game, JP was in the squad but refused to go because in NA's words "His head wasn't right". To me, thats where and when Cortese started playing hardball with the player. He had basically refused to travel or be selected presumably as a sub. I too am at a loss when others say they don't understand what is going on, all the pieces are still there to look back and clearly see what happened. The original point that flared up was with the coaching staff because of how they wanted Puncheon to perform on the pitch. Puncheon had his own ideas but Adkins was resolute and an almighty row erupted resulting in Puncheon going out on loan. If you don't listen to Adkins instructions as to how he wants you to play, you'll soon be getting replaced even before the interval. When Puncheon returned from Millwall he showed a total lack of respect for the club and the staff. He had done very well at Millwall and felt on the back of those performances he could get a good move to a higher level and salary. Saints wanted to play him again but his attitude made that impossible. From that point on his time at Saints had come to an end and it was just a case of keeping him at a distance to stop his poison spreading else where. Cortese's stance on this is very clear. He wants to sell him or get him off our books but not at preferential terms to competing clubs within the Championship. He's not going to do Blackpool a favour by selling him cheap even if it eventually costs us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Dumm question but how do we know this is the real jason as an unverified account? Jesus i thought my spelling was questionable at times but he constantly refers to "Know" as "no" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 dumm is dumb oh the irony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 "No big deal"?!! Il pass on responding to you now... What has JP said that's such a big deal please tell me. Just because he's a footballer doesn't stop him having the right to express his frustrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Good work Jason. I mean, it'd be unprofessional albeit understandable to go public with a well thought out article if you felt you were being mistreated, but incoherent petulant childish garbage on twitter? Yeah, that'll help. I don't know what the problem is, but it doesn't help him that he seems to have problems EVERYWHERE, or that Saints have had a good squad and seemingly a happy squad under Cortese. Adkins doesn't seem that fussed about it either. But most of all, regardless of blame, what sort of footballer is happy to sit in the reserves and collect their pay packet? And what sort of footballer admits it! Let alone slags off the fans paying his inflated wages in a recession. This isn't a Forecast or Pulis situation, they were fake footballers who knew they couldn't have proper careers so took the money and reserve football. Sadly for humanity Puncheon is a talented footballer, so he's actually throwing something away. His career will probably end in 20 clubs, countless arguments, lawsuits no let up in the ego. I'll go along with this. The guy is 25, has been owned by 6 clubs (if you count Wimbledon and MK Dons as one), and been loaned out to 4 other clubs. I wouldn't like to guess how many managers he's played for but, ultimately, he seems to have a bit of an issue. If we were a one off, you could maybe understand that he maybe just doesn't fit in with us. Maybe he just doesn't fit in with authority in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 What has JP said that's such a big deal please tell me. Just because he's a footballer doesn't stop him having the right to express his frustrations. If you cannot see he's in the wrong here, then you're clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 If you cannot see he's in the wrong here, then you're clueless. What this man said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 What has JP said that's such a big deal please tell me. Just because he's a footballer doesn't stop him having the right to express his frustrations. Tell you what, open a Twitter account, slag off your boss on it and then let your boss see what you have written about him and see if he thinks you have every right to "express your frustrations" :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I understand the animosity towards Puncheon's comments and attitude, but if he's a malign influence I wonder about the logic of applying the usual punishment of packing him off to the reserves/under 18s. He's presumably in daily contact with the younger and more impressionable players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 22 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Interesting, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 You said "understand this" as though is was a fact. So on the pivotal part of the situation you are just assuming. Do I know it as an absolute, then no, is it a well known fact, then yes, it's an understanding, are you nit picking, yes, given most of what you have posted so far, is your opinion, and posted without substance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 If you cannot see he's in the wrong here, then you're clueless. Instead of calling me clueless point it out properly because I can't see what's upset you lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I guess Cortese will be around for a while longer than Mr Puncheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Do I know it as an absolute, then no, is it a well known fact, then yes, it's an understanding, are you nit picking, yes, given most of what you have posted so far, is your opinion, and posted without substance! I was being anti NC to point out how easy it is to say anything without access to the facts, my point is it might not just be all the fault of JP. The most important part of this situation is whether JP has put in a transfer request and will forgo his contracted wages, this isn't know as a fact, otherwise point out the source. It was a well know fact that he was on his mobile during ML memorial, but this is now disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Should have come back to the club and kept his head down and waited for his transfer.. A wasted talent who is his own worst enemy (his agent does not help his situation ) Let him go now Saints as he must not be left amongst the young players... I was a fan of Puncheon and thought he was mis used in the team...but now rid the club...IF anyone else would want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Tell you what, open a Twitter account, slag off your boss on it and then let your boss see what you have written about him and see if he thinks you have every right to "express your frustrations" :-) Of course he has the right to express his frustrations, show me what he has said that would get him the sack in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Of course he has the right to express his frustrations, show me what he has said that would get him the sack in the real world. Who has mentioned the sack ? Oh, you have.....ok, well he has probably not said anything to get him the sack as such, but referring to his boss as Nicolina in the public domain probably isnt the wiseest thing he could do..... is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Instead of calling me clueless point it out properly because I can't see what's upset you lot. You can't see the problem with someone publicly slagging off the head of the organisation they work for? Christ, you must be dim. I pity you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Of course he has the right to express his frustrations, show me what he has said that would get him the sack in the real world. Try looking at the first 3 posts on this thread. If you don't think that would get you the sack, try it yourself (of course whether your boss would read what you had written on Twitter is a moot point). I would guess that NC has more sense and better things to do than to read Twitter, but I suspect it will be brought to his attention at some point. Sadly professional footballers have more protection than your average worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 only one winner in this battle and it we never be him. i'm sure cotese wont lose a seconds sleep over the comments of a single man wasting the prime time of his career away. when he looks back over his time as footballer he will truley regret that he wasted it. not playing in the championship or the premire league making a name for him self but instead training alone or with kidds and playing bit parts at low key training grounds infront few. great stories to tell the kids no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 To be honest with you i'd be very surprised if his little twitter rant isn't in breach of his contract. Most companies, let alone something as high profile in the media as a football club, have clauses written into contracts about defamatory statements in the public sphere. If i were Puncheons agent right now - and regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation - i'd be incredibly angry with him. He's more than likely going to pick up a fine and highly likely to make himself a less attractive option for other clubs. It really is sad since the bloke is really not that bad a player and took a tremendous amount of stick from many saints fans somewhat unfairly. In particular the myth that gets touted about him going to markus liebherr's funeral in jeans, one that has been debunked by images and videos but is still trotted out against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 To be honest with you i'd be very surprised if his little twitter rant isn't in breach of his contract. Most companies, let alone something as high profile in the media as a football club, have clauses written into contracts about defamatory statements in the public sphere. If i were Puncheons agent right now - and regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation - i'd be incredibly angry with him. He's more than likely going to pick up a fine and highly likely to make himself a less attractive option for other clubs. It really is sad since the bloke is really not that bad a player and took a tremendous amount of stick from many saints fans somewhat unfairly. In particular the myth that gets touted about him going to markus liebherr's funeral in jeans, one that has been debunked by images and videos but is still trotted out against him. He got stick from the fans because he put in 5 or 6 woeful displays after doing rather well. He made it perfectly clear he couldn't be f*cked. THAT is why he got sh*t from some sections of SMS, and quite right too IMHO. Then Chambo appeared and that was that for JP's starting place, then he refused to travel to Oldham because he would have been on the bench, that was the final straw and since then, quite rightly, NA has wanted him nowhere near our first team and he has made that very clear in many interviews. If NC has too said the same, then good on him. If I refused to do something for my contracts manager, my Managing Director wouldn't be too pleased with me either. As for the Liebherr memorial, what I first heard about JP at the service was that he looked far too casual and uninterested compared to the rest of the squad and it looked a bit disrespectful, them reports were then blown up and exagerated into "he wore jeans and a vest blah blah blah", yes it was BS, but no smoke without fire. Look no further than JP's appearance on Soccer AM a few weeks ago for a perfect example of why he is exactly the sort we do not want. He had a face like thunder all the way through, blatantly wasn't interested but his agent has realised he has f*cked himself in the arse so he needs to promote himself, that he didn't do and if anything, made himslef look worse. Then... when asked who is more scary, Warnock or Holloway, he went on to tell a story about a blow up between Warnock and a QPR player in the dressing room and the look on Helen Chamberlains face said it all, that is not the sort of thing a Proffesional Footballer should be saying in public, let alone on a very big saturday morning footy program. He is a c*nt, it's a fact of life. We let him rot, we move on, and watch him blow his lucky break away. Yes he'll be a well off lad, but he will look back on his career with a squint rather than a smile, knowing how different it could have been. F*ck him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I think it was on here previously, it was alleged that he was injured and took an unauthorised trip to I think Cyprus, after which the whole problem kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Throwing a wobbly on twitter ain't going to help. Cortese will have him sweeping the car park at this rate. As an emplyee of SFC if theres one person you don't want to fall out with or even slag off in public its the don. what a spoon. Silly boy slagging off your employer in public is a sackable offence. He could actually lose the 18 months wages he seems to be so keen on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 (edited) From my point of view in not taking any side, I just don't think that either side are blameless in this. Funny, I haven't yet seen the MANAGER or CHAIRMAN tweeting about this? Or saying anything other than 100% professional communications. Admit it, Puncheon is a class 1, grade A C U N T. FACT! Edited 22 January, 2012 by Legod Third Coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Is it me or do you have to be a dinlow to understand what people write on twitter? I don't get it.... It's all abrieviations # tags whatever those things mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dick Last Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Selling this complete tool to one of our promotion rivals would be a big mistake in my opinion. We all know he has the ability to hurt teams when he wants to. Any goals he would get for our rivals would hurt our desire for promotion. We should let him rot with the reserves or sell him to a team outside of the championship. Ship him off to Scotland would be ideal !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I reckon his agent put him up to last night. Think it may have been hoped that he has his contract terminated for gross misconduct which then leaves him to sign for whoever as a free agent. Now we want a fee for the bellend and Cortese is not stupid. Best thing to do i reckon, is to fine him his pay for as long as possible and stick him in with the reserves/kids. This will hurt the focker as it should, whilst setting an example of what not to do as a proffessional footballer and its consequences. If in the meantime, a bid comes in from anyone aside to champ contenders, then sell him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 You can't see the problem with someone publicly slagging off the head of the organisation they work for? Christ, you must be dim. I pity you. Again instead of calling me dim actually point out what he has said that's so bad, at the moment the only thing someone has offered up is 'Nicolina', wow run him out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Selling this complete tool to one of our promotion rivals would be a big mistake in my opinion. We all know he has the ability to hurt teams when he wants to. Any goals he would get for our rivals would hurt our desire for promotion. We should let him rot with the reserves or sell him to a team outside of the championship. Ship him off to Scotland would be ideal !! I disgree, sell him to a rival and: 1) It stops them spending on someone consistent and reliable 2) It might affect their team spirit 3) It puts money in our account to buy someone who contributes to our cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I'll just don my 'Lawyers' Hat for a moment. JP's 'contract' is between SFC (through his 'Agent') and himself. Clauses in that Contract will most certainly contain 'Conditions of service' and one of them will be 'to act in the best interests of SFC and to liaise with the Representatives of SFC when seeking advice.' Twitter is NOT the platform for such dialogue nor is any criticism of the Chairman. SFC are perfectly within their rights to activate the 'Disciplinary Procedure' and call him to book. He will then be told of the consequences of any failure on his part to 'Uphold the honour of the Contract'. He can be dismissed (not for Gross Misconduct here) but for 'Frustration of Contract'. ie Not fulfilling the agreement. I doubt if he can be dismissed on the grounds of 'Capability' but he could receive a warning of 'suspension of contract (without pay)' if he continues with his rants. In my humble opinion he's a silly little boy who suffers from an inflated ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He has been tried in absence and convicted in the Saintsweb kangaroo court. There's only one punishment suitable for people like him: the shark tank. DOWN WIT TEH JAAAAASSON PUNCHING, WE H8 HIM, GRRRRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 (edited) Again instead of calling me dim actually point out what he has said that's so bad, at the moment the only thing someone has offered up is 'Nicolina', wow run him out of town. Oh gve me strength, you are either a wind up merchant or you have an agenda. Its been pointed out what is wrong about what he has done/said. If you cant see it then I think it says more about you than anything else to be honest. Sorry but.....hey even the thread title is a clue ! Edited 22 January, 2012 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He has been tried in absence and convicted in the Saintsweb kangaroo court. There's only one punishment suitable for people like him: the shark tank. DOWN WIT TEH JAAAAASSON PUNCHING, WE H8 HIM, GRRRRRR Er, not sure how he could claim any innocence of what he has been tried and convicted of? He's been accused of being a total c o c k. Would you like to offer a shred of evidence in his defence? Exhibit A: the man's Twitter comments. And your exhbit is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 (edited) I'll just don my 'Lawyers' Hat for a moment. JP's 'contract' is between SFC (through his 'Agent') and himself. Clauses in that Contract will most certainly contain 'Conditions of service' and one of them will be 'to act in the best interests of SFC and to liaise with the Representatives of SFC when seeking advice.' Twitter is NOT the platform for such dialogue nor is any criticism of the Chairman. SFC are perfectly within their rights to activate the 'Disciplinary Procedure' and call him to book. He will then be told of the consequences of any failure on his part to 'Uphold the honour of the Contract'. He can be dismissed (not for Gross Misconduct here) but for 'Frustration of Contract'. ie Not fulfilling the agreement. I doubt if he can be dismissed on the grounds of 'Capability' but he could receive a warning of 'suspension of contract (without pay)' if he continues with his rants. In my humble opinion he's a silly little boy who suffers from an inflated ego. well seeing as though you've brought yours out, allow me to don mine on for a moment... failure to obey a lawful instruction, in my opinion will amount to a serious breach of contract. Doing so more than once could then be construed as amounting to gross misconduct. Will Puncheon's actions over the months be deemed as repudiation? if gossip, rumours and current actions suggest and can be proved, there is much that Cortese could pursue including dismissal on grounds of repudiated contract or a fine of wages for the lesser breach. Obviously the contract terms and clauses need to be up to scratch. Edited 22 January, 2012 by Avenue Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Having watched puncheon a fair few times I am of the impression that his is not a team player he is a me me me . And we have had a few of them over the season. Wise Philips etc, wise was a tosser when he was with us as a youngster . The club are handling the situation re puncheon with tact and diplomacy . The club do not hang out their dirty laundry in public . Unlike puncheon and his agent . He's acting like a spoilt brat and if he doesn't grow up petty quickly. Then he is going to find his life quiet unpleasant returning to the real world of working for a living . Good riddance to bad attitude footballers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 All this shows is he is every bit as unprofessional and selfish as we suspected. He ended up with us because of his attitude (leaving previous clubs for the same reason), lost his place because of his attitude, he remains out because of it and he will suffer the consequences of it. It's also a very selfish thing to do, putting a negative focus on the club at a time when things are generally very positive. I've stood by my opinion that he shouldn't be given another chance and it's time to move on. This just backs that up. Spoilt little ****. We shouldn't sack him though, that would allow him to simply walk away and start over. Let him rot, train on his own so not to spread this attitude around, leave him until the footballing world has forgotten about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 All this talk about not knowing the facts is bull. You don't need to know all the facts to make a summary judgement when someone is acting like a total bellend in a public media like he has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 All this talk about not knowing the facts is bull. You don't need to know all the facts to make a summary judgement when someone is acting like a total bellend in a public media like he has done. Very true indeed. It is clearly unprofessional to make such comments about your employer in such a public way, however hacked off and upset you may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Why the **** should the reserves and kids have to put up with this ****.. What have they done wrong to deserve that? He is employed by the club, they should make him serve burgers at the weekend and sweep the car park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I think even if we sacked him we can retain his registration so that any club wishing to sign him would have to buy the registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He's now changed his Twitter profile picture to a poster that says "Rumours are carried by haters, spreaded by fools & accepted by idiots". Ermmm, spreaded?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He's now changed his Twitter profile picture to a poster that says "Rumours are carried by haters, spreaded by fools & accepted by idiots". Ermmm, spreaded?!?!? Not a fan of Fleetwood Mac then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He's now changed his Twitter profile picture to a poster that says "Rumours are carried by haters, spreaded by fools & accepted by idiots". Ermmm, spreaded?!?!? The dumb thing is, even if you paid no attention to his past antics or any rumours about him, just this one action on Twitter is enough to form an opinion. If any other player went onto Twitter to say similar things, they too would be considered unprofessional and an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 oops! double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Oh dear so much hate and like all the posters they do not what this spat is all about.sounds like the mob mentality is out in force just waiting for the same people to start on guly next. Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk Is it hate, or is it just the ranting of people fed up and frustrated at this continuing saga involving this unprofessional, arrogant misfit? And do people need to have evidence of what caused this fall-out between Puncheon and the club? This is a player who has played for a succession of clubs and seems to leave under a cloud each time. The impression is gained that although undoubtedly a talented player, he is a disruptive influence to the teams he plays for. Although we don't have much to go on from his former clubs, at least we now have the evidence of his childishness currently, throwing his toys out of the pram on Twitter. Posters have formed their own opinions based on what they have heard elsewhere and what has happened here with Saints. And why should you conclude that Guly will be the next recipient of vindictiveness? As far as I know, he gets on well enough with his team mates, has the right attitude, scores valuable goals. Some have their own opinions on the players and like some but not others, but the situation regarding Puncheon is unlike that of any other player at the club and does not have a parallel in all the years I have been watching Saints. Although you yourself do not have any more idea than anybody else what caused this spat between player and club, feel free to show compassion with Puncheon if that is what makes you happy and deride anybody's else criticism as hateful. I'll align myself with the chairman and manager, as I have a damned sight more respect for them than I do for this petulant player. My trust in them is strengthened by the impression that apart from Puncheon, this is a happy and confident bunch of professionals we have in our squad at the moment. For whatever reason, he is a misfit. Sent from my desk PC using typing with fingers on my keyboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Is it hate, or is it just the ranting of people fed up and frustrated at this continuing saga involving this unprofessional, arrogant misfit? And do people need to have evidence of what caused this fall-out between Puncheon and the club? This is a player who has played for a succession of clubs and seems to leave under a cloud each time. The impression is gained that although undoubtedly a talented player, he is a disruptive influence to the teams he plays for. Although we don't have much to go on from his former clubs, at least we now have the evidence of his childishness currently, throwing his toys out of the pram on Twitter. Posters have formed their own opinions based on what they have heard elsewhere and what has happened here with Saints. And why should you conclude that Guly will be the next recipient of vindictiveness? As far as I know, he gets on well enough with his team mates, has the right attitude, scores valuable goals. Some have their own opinions on the players and like some but not others, but the situation regarding Puncheon is unlike that of any other player at the club and does not have a parallel in all the years I have been watching Saints. Although you yourself do not have any more idea than anybody else what caused this spat between player and club, feel free to show compassion with Puncheon if that is what makes you happy and deride anybody's else criticism as hateful. I'll align myself with the chairman and manager, as I have a damned sight more respect for them than I do for this petulant player. My trust in them is strengthened by the impression that apart from Puncheon, this is a happy and confident bunch of professionals we have in our squad at the moment. For whatever reason, he is a misfit. Sent from my desk PC using typing with fingers on my keyboard a misfit not for whatever reason, but for reasons of an abysmal attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 No-one comes out of this with credit, sadly, neither the player nor the club. He is probably frustrated that offers are coming in but being turned down. Maybe he concludes are more interested in keeping him to demean him than they are about taking some money and letting him continue his career. Yes, his tweets are ill-advised and won't sweeten the relationship. But equally the Club needs to explain to him what the plan is and what the offer level needs to be to trigger his release. A sour relationship here does neither party any favours. I agree with this - it all seems a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I agree with this - it all seems a bit silly. So say your at work and you and your boss have a disagreement. But your boss stays quiet and would rather deal with it internally. Maybe let it go. But you then decide to go around your work place slagging off your boss, making it clear that you intend to be desruptive and pick up your pay for doing nothing. How does the boss come out of that looking bad? Because he had an argument with an employee? Every work place in the world will have problems from time to time with its staff. As far as I am concerened Puncheon probably got disciplined and didn't like it. You don't see any other playes having issues. In fact the team atmosphere would indicate the total opposite. Rather then keep his head down, put in the hard work and try his all he has decided to throw a strop and go on the internet slagging off the club and its fans. The only person who comes out looking bad is Puncheon. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 No-one comes out of this with credit, sadly, neither the player nor the club. He is probably frustrated that offers are coming in but being turned down. Maybe he concludes are more interested in keeping him to demean him than they are about taking some money and letting him continue his career. Yes, his tweets are ill-advised and won't sweeten the relationship. But equally the Club needs to explain to him what the plan is and what the offer level needs to be to trigger his release. A sour relationship here does neither party any favours. The best an most balanced post on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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