hypochondriac Posted 21 January, 2012 Share Posted 21 January, 2012 Would be good to know exactly what went on before we all rush to call him scum. Not a great idea to make it public but possibly borne out of frustration if he isn't sold this window or allowed to play for us. That isn't ideal for any footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 21 January, 2012 Share Posted 21 January, 2012 But then we need to ask whether we need someone like that anywhere near our developing kids. I assume there would be a breach of contract on Saints' part if they used him as a cleaner for the next 18 months? If not, hand him that mop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 January, 2012 Share Posted 21 January, 2012 But then we need to ask whether we need someone like that anywhere near our developing kids. Yes. "See him lads? He could be playing for the first team right now, leading the charge to the Premiership". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 21 January, 2012 Share Posted 21 January, 2012 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @jasonpunch what a pillock... Made me LOL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 May be a very naive view and I'm well prepared for anyone who will shoot this down straight away for the betterment of themselves, but with people not so sure what the problem is between the two of them, could it not be his attitude at Markus Liebherr's memorial service. I was lucky enough to be there and he was dressed very casual and wasn't acting as respectful as others were deemed to be. Just a thought. Probably a poor one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 May be a very naive view and I'm well prepared for anyone who will shoot this down straight away for the betterment of themselves, but with people not so sure what the problem is between the two of them, could it not be his attitude at Markus Liebherr's memorial service. I was lucky enough to be there and he was dressed very casual and wasn't acting as respectful as others were deemed to be. Just a thought. Probably a poor one. This has been dispelled many a time. He was wearing black trousers and black shirt...much more formal than the hundreds of fans in shirts, shorts and sandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Idiot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 jasonpunch: Most of u fail to understand that only reason I train with the kids is cos of nicolina not the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Would be good to know exactly what went on before we all rush to call him scum. Not a great idea to make it public but possibly borne out of frustration if he isn't sold this window or allowed to play for us. That isn't ideal for any footballer. Exactly. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on "Nicolinas" side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Exactly. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on "Nicolinas" side. ...and yet you've already jumped on Puncheons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Yet again t#ater strikes Did puncheon spend his QPR days with that other footballing cun+ joey Barton Don't agree with players not using ***ter because of the positives it has had with our players banter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Let's be honest, none of us know what went on that made him persona non grata so we can't make a judgement about which side has been unreasonable. If the rumours are true and we won't send him on loan or sell him for less than a million, then it may be unlikely that he will be anywhere else for the rest of the season. If I were puncheon and that was the situation then I would be pretty hacked off too because my career is basically being put on hold when all I would want to do is play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 ...and yet you've already jumped on Puncheons. Nah, but I remember how Cortese treated Le Tissier and nick illingsworth with his ST and he seems very petty. Little man syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Would be good to know exactly what went on before we all rush to call him scum. Not a great idea to make it public but possibly borne out of frustration if he isn't sold this window or allowed to play for us. That isn't ideal for any footballer. We'll never know exactly what went on, same way that we'll never know exactly why Pardew was sacked. It's not good PR to have spats inside the club out in public knowledge. Rumours are rife that he was bullying Chambo when he broke into the team, causing himself to be disliked by the players and staff. Whether that particular rumour is true or not is debatable, but the fact remains that he's a petulant w4nker who comes across as pretty f*cking simple. The sooner some mug comes and snaps him up, the better. There's a reason he's never settled anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 ...and yet you've already jumped on Puncheons. From my point of view in not taking any side, I just don't think that either side are blameless in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He seems to have now burnt the bridges, so why not tell us all what happened, Jason? Why not get it in the open so we all know the facts? I don't care if Cortese is in the wrong, Puncheon calling the people who pay his wages "clowns" isn't the way to go about things. Cortese won't want to lose money on him, which Puncheon is obviously threatening, but Puncheon will end up at a lower-league club having played under 200 games in a career spanning 10 years and on the verge of being 27 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Spitting his dummy because we wouldn't loan him to whu if u ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 We'll never know exactly what went on, same way that we'll never know exactly why Pardew was sacked. It's not good PR to have spats inside the club out in public knowledge. Rumours are rife that he was bullying Chambo when he broke into the team, causing himself to be disliked by the players and staff. Whether that particular rumour is true or not is debatable, but the fact remains that he's a petulant w4nker who comes across as pretty f*cking simple. The sooner some mug comes and snaps him up, the better. There's a reason he's never settled anywhere. When was he a petulant w4nker? All I'm saying is that if he is not allowed to play for us and we refuse to sell him, then I understand his frustration. I don't know any details about the spat and neither does anyone else so calling him all manner of names is a bit unfair without knowing the facts to make an informed judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 If he is "not going nowhere", then he is going somewhere! Double negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Puncheon needs Saints a lot more then Saints need Puncheon. Unlucky mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Old news Jason you dipstick. I knew Nicola had banished him to the kids training - he deserves every second of time rotting there until we finally get rid. He'll be plying his trade in the lower leagues when the word gets around about his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Old news Jason you dipstick. I knew Nicola had banished him to the kids training - he deserves every second of time rotting there until we finally get rid. He'll be plying his trade in the lower leagues when the word gets around about his character. Based on what evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Puncheon needs Saints a lot more then Saints need Puncheon. Unlucky mate Too true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Puncheon sound like a ***t but no one on here really knows what is going on so it's a bit off giving him stick. Maybe Cortese is being a c*nt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 He thinks he's Tevez, except isn't as talented, doesn't earn as much and could never command the type of fee Tevez does. Wonder if he's intelligent enough to eventually realize ultimately the club is the boss of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 its weird i really thought he was a brilliant signing at one point, so confused as to what happened, from the looks of it his personality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 That's the thing, we'll get the usual idiots trying to turn it into a Cortese debate, but that's not the issue. Whether Cortese has done something or not, petulantly slagging him off on twitter is utterly pathetic, and slagging off the fans who shell out hard earned money to pay this c-unt's wages is sickening. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Throwing a wobbly on twitter ain't going to help. Cortese will have him sweeping the car park at this rate. As an emplyee of SFC if theres one person you don't want to fall out with or even slag off in public its the don. what a spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 (edited) It does make me laugh people doing the "we don't know what was said" or "cortese comes out looking bad" etc. what a total load of ********... We don't know what was said or happened behind closed doors but we do know Puncheon has had issues at loads of clubs. It isn't just here where he has had problems. But while he has been here he has created lots of problems including falling out with players and the manager. Read Adkins comments on him when he was fined and moved to train with the youngsters. He basically implies that he tried to create a bad team atmosphere and was too disruptive. Some people said that was due to him taking pops at chambo and eventually saying he doesn't even want to be here. But regardless of what happened you don't see any chairman/ managers coming out slagging players off. People fallout constantly. It is human nature. I fall out with my boss sometimes just as you probably do. The difference is I doubt you then go onto the Internet and report on there that your boss is a ****** and your basically going to sit on your ass doing jack **** while collecting your pay cheque. Fallouts happen daily, especially in football, anyone who even plays pub football knows that. Puncheon needs to keep his opinions to himself, it is called being professional, if you look at his career it is something he knows nothing about. Saying someone who has said nothing comes out looking bad is just laughable. Edited 22 January, 2012 by St Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Let's be honest, none of us know what went on that made him persona non grata so we can't make a judgement about which side has been unreasonable. If the rumours are true and we won't send him on loan or sell him for less than a million, then it may be unlikely that he will be anywhere else for the rest of the season. If I were puncheon and that was the situation then I would be pretty hacked off too because my career is basically being put on hold when all I would want to do is play. But what's unreasonable about refusing to sell him for less than one million? Especially as we seemingly can't buy hooper for less than seven? And why should we have to let him go out on loan yet again, it's getting embarrassing. No-one who takes him on loan wants to buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 JP needs a dictionary and some GCSE English lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 man the guy is crazyyyy.!! Twitter's great init :0 professionals / famous people are so stupid they post stuff like this and think it will go unnoticed or it doesn't matter because it's twitter!!? it's like I never write cr*p about my work on facebook (even though I would love to as despise my job) as I have people from work as friends on there and you never know...just ain't worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 I thought the problem with him and the club started when he refused to travel with the team to an away match, He was only named as a sub, and his ego thought he should be in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 But what's unreasonable about refusing to sell him for less than one million? Especially as we seemingly can't buy hooper for less than seven? And why should we have to let him go out on loan yet again, it's getting embarrassing. No-one who takes him on loan wants to buy him. Well Blackpool do...and Millwall did - just neither of them will meet Cortese's asking price. Personally - I think I'd take any offer over £250k from a non-rival for promotion and get rid of JP.....BUT like most, I do not know what he did so right now I choose to trust that NC has his reasons for keeping him around, and as long as NA doesn't have a problem with it - thats good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 By not getting rid of him it is costing Saints a lot of money. So why won't Saints let him go? Perhaps they are actually still trying to help him but he is too dim to realise it? People like Bankers don't like to waste money unless they have good reasons do they?? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Cortese is probably used to dealing with businessmen and adults, not childish idiots. It will be interesting to see what happens when they do come 'face to face' now. I also wonder what JP's agent will make of this. Has any footballer in history ever said 'I will play in the reserves til my contract runs out'? If we don't need the money don't sell him. He should have at least waited til feb 1st to have this rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Well Blackpool do...and Millwall did - just neither of them will meet Cortese's asking price. Personally - I think I'd take any offer over £250k from a non-rival for promotion and get rid of JP.....BUT like most, I do not know what he did so right now I choose to trust that NC has his reasons for keeping him around, and as long as NA doesn't have a problem with it - thats good enough for me. Yeah, but if we are holding out for a reasonable price (1 million sounds a fair deal on paper for talent and potential), then those bids don't count as someone wanting to buy him. They had him on loan, liked him enough to bid, then failed to meet a reasonable price. I don't think we are under any obligation to slash our valuation just because they are stingy bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Would be good to know exactly what went on before we all rush to call him scum. Not a great idea to make it public but possibly borne out of frustration if he isn't sold this window or allowed to play for us. That isn't ideal for any footballer. OK. He rants with semi-literate mispelt garbage. If he had any sort of intelligence he would try to sort out problems with his boss with his boss, not by ****tering drivel to the cosmos. he is clearly not the brightest lightbulb in the discounted 6-pack from Asda. Plus he clearly has no sort of work ethic. In what sense do you interpret his inane drivellings as in any way a well-thought-out, postive suggestion? It reads to me like he is "man who don take siht from no man, yeh bro" blah blah blah...... Tosser with an IQ of 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Oh dear so much hate and like all the posters they do not what this spat is all about.sounds like the mob mentality is out in force just waiting for the same people to start on guly next. Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Let's be honest, none of us know what went on that made him persona non grata so we can't make a judgement about which side has been unreasonable. If the rumours are true and we won't send him on loan or sell him for less than a million, then it may be unlikely that he will be anywhere else for the rest of the season. If I were puncheon and that was the situation then I would be pretty hacked off too because my career is basically being put on hold when all I would want to do is play. Good post unlike the Lynch mob getting on their high horse . Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 The bloke is a grade A cock. As much as I would like to see him rot in the reserves I think that would have a bad effect on others so get him out ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Twitter should be renamed ****ter because that's what people who use it end up becoming.......a complete ****. It has taken over where the news of the world ended,it causes nothing but trouble especially for footballers and does nothing to help out in situations like these. At the end of the day I would like to see a return on some of the money that has been invested in the player but all of this nonsense is not doing anybody any favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Agreed. if we have to go the whole course with Forecast before his time is out , we can do the same with JP ..neither will have a career left by then. I think this whole mess is very sad, there are tens of thousands of us who give our right arm to wear a Saints shirt in a competitive game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 If he was being so badly treated by Cortese wouldn't the pfa be publicly backing him and help him to fight his case ?. Also seems he never lasts long at any club, this suggests all we need to know about him. The guy is trouble and his attitude means he will waste what little talent he does have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 Puncheon is clearly demonstrating that he struggles to activate both brain cells at the same time. Unfortunately he has got his hands on a smart phone before he managed to resolve this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 But what's unreasonable about refusing to sell him for less than one million? Especially as we seemingly can't buy hooper for less than seven? And why should we have to let him go out on loan yet again, it's getting embarrassing. No-one who takes him on loan wants to buy him. Hypo doesn't understand these things imo. He doesn't realise, that if sold without a transfer request, you have to pay out all sorts of contractual add ons. Sack him I say, let him go and disrupt some other team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 No-one comes out of this with credit, sadly, neither the player nor the club. He is probably frustrated that offers are coming in but being turned down. Maybe he concludes are more interested in keeping him to demean him than they are about taking some money and letting him continue his career. Yes, his tweets are ill-advised and won't sweeten the relationship. But equally the Club needs to explain to him what the plan is and what the offer level needs to be to trigger his release. A sour relationship here does neither party any favours. The voice of reason - at the end of the day we all lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 No-one comes out of this with credit, sadly, neither the player nor the club. He is probably frustrated that offers are coming in but being turned down. Maybe he concludes are more interested in keeping him to demean him than they are about taking some money and letting him continue his career. Yes, his tweets are ill-advised and won't sweeten the relationship. But equally the Club needs to explain to him what the plan is and what the offer level needs to be to trigger his release. A sour relationship here does neither party any favours. A well-reasoned arguement - and one that I agree with, unfortunately I don't think Puncheon is on the same wavelength as you. As someone once said ..picking a fight with your boss might give you some satisfaction.. but it's like shi**ing on your own doorstep ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornseySaintsFan Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 they are both lunatics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 22 January, 2012 Share Posted 22 January, 2012 The voice of reason - at the end of the day we all lose out. Good post Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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