notjon Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Just got a new ipad2 and am somewhat dischuffed to discover that it won`t run Adobe flash player and hence Saintsplayer, is there some way round this? And also some guys on here seem to be watching games on a live stream, where do I find this? and is it possible on broadband speeds of around 2.2 Thanks in advance for any info. Premiership here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Not sure about the Saintsplayer issue. But some games will be found on http://www.firstrowsports.tv, or http://www.vipbox.tv. Gerneally if they're on TV somewhere or are the Football League Shows main game, they'll be a stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Sorry to hear that you are the only person in the world that didn't realise that apple products don't run flash. I can only get saints player to run on the computer, and most streaming websites will be the same. A couple of services have their own apps like Justin.tv but I doubt you would be able to find a saints game on them... Here's hoping the situation improves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Nope it is easily solved - just pay for the iSwifter app - that runs flash and I listen to Saints player every week on it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Nope it is easily solved - just pay for the iSwifter app - that runs flash and I listen to Saints player every week on it !! I'll be giving that app a whirl when I get in. Will it run all flash based websites? Not that I've come across many that have really caused me a problem yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I was also advised to use iswifter on here for saints player and can confirm that it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I'll be giving that app a whirl when I get in. Will it run all flash based websites? Not that I've come across many that have really caused me a problem yet. Yes it was designed principally so that people could play their facebook gameson an iPad but you can redirect the web bar to any address - it is essentially a flash capable browser- it is not as smooth as safari and there are delays and occasional server outages but it does the job and I have never missed a saints came since I also use Photon on my iPhone to listen to games when I am out and about but you do need a good 3G signal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Ahhhh Apple - Form over Function As mentioned iSwifter app Also, download ESPN Goals, a nice little app that gives you access to all the latest prem goals a few hours after the game finishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I have downloaded the iswifter now how do I reroute to get saints player to work.....even if slowly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 http://www.samsung.com/uk/galaxytab/10-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I have downloaded the iswifter now how do I reroute to get saints player to work.....even if slowly? click on the bar at the top that says facebook etc and type in http://www.saintsfc.co.uk then go onto the player site - it is slow but I promise you it does work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radders82 Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 There is another option if you download the photon app from the app store although I don't think it is free andit streams the website. Again it's a bit slow but you can get the commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Sorry if that sounded patronising above , now home and open up the app- there is a bar at the top that says http:/apps.facebook.com or something, that is your address bar so just navigate as you would usually Photon is inferior IMHO but works on iPhone as there isn't iswifter on that I disagree that apple products are form over function , flash is an old poor plug in and html5 is far better. I am hoping it won't be too long before the players change to html5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I see the BBC website is gradually changing over to html5 for some of their news videos. Not on the sports ones yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Sorry if that sounded patronising above , now home and open up the app- there is a bar at the top that says http:/apps.facebook.com or something, that is your address bar so just navigate as you would usually Photon is inferior IMHO but works on iPhone as there isn't iswifter on that I disagree that apple products are form over function , flash is an old poor plug in and html5 is far better. I am hoping it won't be too long before the players change to html5 ^This People bemoan the fact that the iPhone / iPad are incompatible with flashplayer but to me it's more the other way around. How about the likes of SaintsPlayer move with the times and stream their video content in the latest 'industry standard' format? Call me non-old fashioned.... That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Nope it is easily solved - just pay for the iSwifter app - that runs flash and I listen to Saints player every week on it !! What he said. Works a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I see the BBC website is gradually changing over to html5 for some of their news videos. Not on the sports ones yet though. Such is the power of Apple these days, most websites are moving from Flash Player now, due to Apple's refusal to run the software on their products. I have an iPad and use the web on it frequently. Only website that causes me any problems is the BBC and as you said, they're slowly changing over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Try Skyfire browser - http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/skyfire-web-browser/id384941497?mt=8 It has a FLASH decoder embbeded - not perfect but it does work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I was also advised to use iswifter on here for saints player and can confirm that it works What about the video coverage on saintsplayer? Can it play the highlights footage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Yes it can, can use all flash content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Such is the power of Apple these days, most websites are moving from Flash Player now, due to Apple's refusal to run the software on their products. I have an iPad and use the web on it frequently. Only website that causes me any problems is the BBC and as you said, they're slowly changing over. I don't think it's got anything to do with "Apple's power", if supporting Flash was a sustainable market position the likes of Samsung wouldn't have announced they were abandoning it as well - it's just because of HTML5 meaning Flash basically isn't needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I don't think it's got anything to do with "Apple's power", if supporting Flash was a sustainable market position the likes of Samsung wouldn't have announced they were abandoning it as well - it's just because of HTML5 meaning Flash basically isn't needed. Correct. As ever, Apple were way ahead of everybody in refusing to entertain the idea of allowing the buggy and power-hungry Flash onto its devices. With 50 million iPad 2s expected to be bought this year, plus the hundreds of millions of iPhones out there, all major sites (and minor ones!) will be seeing the light. Flash is dead, people. Get over it and get on with complaining and pestering the web designers and site owners to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Flash was never supported (and thus is being killed) by Apple because Apple likes to have total control over the software that is run on its devices. It is simply protecting its ip. Flash allows people to run pretty much whatever they like on a given device, be it a media player, game or some other application. Apple doesn't like it because it loses them money. It is about a creating a monopoly, nothing more. It has NOTHING to do with being resource or power hungry. Microsoft is following suit with its Windows Phone 7.5 OS I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergoose Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Runs a treat on my Spectrum 32K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los_saint Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Reasons why apple doesn't like flash: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Essruu, I hardly think refusing to support something 4 years before it is replaced is being "ahead of the game". It might be "playing the game" to achieve an end they wanted eventually (presumably non-proprietary development, or preferably Apple-controlled platform development), and doubtless Apple's success despite their non-Flash stance hasn't helped Adobe, but the 4 years of no Flash has meant that viable alternatives have sprung up with a built-in selling point, allowing opponents a foothold in the market they might not otherwise have had. Dealing purely in facts without speculation on why this might be, Flash is dead because Adobe want to focus on HTML5... http://www.techspot.com/news/46192-adobe-stops-mobile-flash-development-will-focus-on-html5.html I'd be inclined to say that as Apple didn't support flash for 5 years it forced other methods to be developed (eventually HTML5), but that's been the expectation for a long time, and it's the emergence of HTML5 as a viable alternative and the refusal of others to continue to support Flash on their products that has killed it. If everyone else had demanded Flash, Adobe probably would have kept on - but everyone is moving on. Samsung were mocking Apple as recently as June for the lack of flash in ads, so it's a recent decision for them to move on, as is Adobe's decision. Looking at significant devices releases like the Sony Vita, Windows 8 Metro UI and less significant but representative ones like Samsung Galaxy Y, none of them run Flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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