Bearsy Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Anyone stopping in to watch this **** tonight? I've been enjoying it so far, I don't know a lot about acting but it seems pretty good to me. No-one is too annoying so far except maybe that Moriarty but you're not supposed to like him anyways. I like how everyone thinks they're gay, reminds me of the cool Billy Wilder film where that ballerina wants to get it on with Sherlock so they can have a genetically superior baby and Sherlock gets out if saying he's a gay with Watson. That was a pretty sweet movie! I still laugh at Watson's face when he found out. I see this is the last one and it's called The Final Problem so I guess Sherlock's gonna get got tonight. That's too bad, I could have stood a few more episodes, especially if they get the naked chick back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Excellent programme - I've loved every episode. And tonight it's preceded by the dramatisation of the book about midwives in the East End of London in the 1950s. I loved the book so I'm really looking forward to the drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Anyone stopping in to watch this **** tonight? I've been enjoying it so far, I don't know a lot about acting but it seems pretty good to me. No-one is too annoying so far except maybe that Moriarty but you're not supposed to like him anyways. I like how everyone thinks they're gay, reminds me of the cool Billy Wilder film where that ballerina wants to get it on with Sherlock so they can have a genetically superior baby and Sherlock gets out if saying he's a gay with Watson. That was a pretty sweet movie! I still laugh at Watson's face when he found out. I see this is the last one and it's called The Final Problem so I guess Sherlock's gonna get got tonight. That's too bad, I could have stood a few more episodes, especially if they get the naked chick back. Benedict Cumberbatch is onto bigger things. I think he has two different parts in the Hobbit, and he has also signed on to appear in the new Star Trek film. However, they brought Holmes back from death in the stories. Sure they can find a way back for him if Hollywood doesn't play out. BTW: He has legions of female fans who refer to themselves as "Cumberb*tches" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Not forgetting he's also in 'Warhorse'. We'll be seeing a lot of him in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Not forgetting he's also in 'Warhorse'. For about a minute. In a crap film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 With 25 minutes left, I am sitting here wondering. What the f**k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Benedict Cumberbatch is onto bigger things. I think he has two different parts in the Hobbit, and he has also signed on to appear in the new Star Trek film. However, they brought Holmes back from death in the stories. Sure they can find a way back for him if Hollywood doesn't play out. BTW: He has legions of female fans who refer to themselves as "Cumberb*tches" He's voicing Smaug the dragon in The Hobbit, as well as some other part. I think times are going to be good for Benedict over the next few years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 I see the wife has this on Sky + so I think I may take a look at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 With 25 minutes left, I am sitting here wondering. What the f**k? Ha ha ha, now I am 100 percent watching this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Great stuff! And next week they're dramatising Bird Song (by Sebastian Faulkes). One of the better books I've read. Thank heavens for the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 No. Dislike. Too far fetched at the end. I won't post anymore, mainly as Dr Who hasn't seen it yet. But it went too far for me. And the guy who played Moriarty is hopelessly miscast. Havn't liked him ever since he made an appearance at the end of the first mini-series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Hmmm interesting ending. Gonna have to spend the rest of the night working that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Hahaha that was pretty cool! If they'd made it so Sherlock was behind the whole thing after all it would have been totally classic though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2012 What was that midwives thing about beforehand? I didn't watch it obviously because it sounds like something my mum would watch but from the next room just as it ended it sounded like someone said "Oh no he's coming out arse first!" which made me looool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Great stuff! And next week they're dramatising Bird Song (by Sebastian Faulkes). One of the better books I've read. Thank heavens for the BBC. One of the best books I've ever read. In the top 3 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Please, am I the only one who thinks that Moriarty was dreadful in this series? Dreadful actor, bad characterisation. They could have done so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I don't know, I thought Moriarty was alright. He was obviously supposed to be completely insane, unlike Moriarty in the recent Sherlock Holmes films who was just some clever bloke who happened to do a bit of crime every once in a while. I think this series needed a character (aside from Sherlock, obviously) who was completely unhinged and unpredictable. You already had the cold steel indifference of Mycroft (props to Mark Gattiss by the way!), so that particular avenue for characterisation was closed off. Really, in order to create a real villain, he should either be completely emotionless or emotional to the point of madness. I think one thing we can all agree on is that Steven Moffatt is a bloody genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I think one thing we can all agree on is that Steven Moffatt is a bloody genius. Speak for yourself ! Doctor Who has gone steadily downhill ever since he took control and Sherlock does nothing for me either to me perfectly honest. I say this as a life long fan of both. This king has no clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Who writes this ****? Its as unfathomable as Doctor Who, which used to be good a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Speak for yourself ! Doctor Who has gone steadily downhill ever since he took control and Sherlock does nothing for me either to me perfectly honest. I say this as a life long fan of both. This king has no clothes. Word. I can't stomach Doctor Who at any price so I can't comment on that but I remember Coupling as a pretty weak Friends rip-off. If anyone has to be a Genius I'd sooner give it to Gatiss who at least has League of Gentlemen on his CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I don't know, I thought Moriarty was alright. He was obviously supposed to be completely insane, unlike Moriarty in the recent Sherlock Holmes films who was just some clever bloke who happened to do a bit of crime every once in a while. I think this series needed a character (aside from Sherlock, obviously) who was completely unhinged and unpredictable. You already had the cold steel indifference of Mycroft (props to Mark Gattiss by the way!), so that particular avenue for characterisation was closed off. Really, in order to create a real villain, he should either be completely emotionless or emotional to the point of madness. I think one thing we can all agree on is that Steven Moffatt is a bloody genius. I really like Moffat's work but I'd stop short of declaring his genius. The idea of a contemporary Sherlock has been banging on for ages. This is actually the second piece of Victorian literature that Moffat has brought up to date (Jekyll being the first). But then you remember Coupling, which was arse. He was also responsible for Press Gang. Mark Gatiss is ace though, and has been for years. He is responsible for some pretty good Doctor Who episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16573066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Superb television I see this is the last one and it's called The Final Problem so I guess Sherlock's gonna get got tonight. That's too bad, I could have stood a few more episodes, especially if they get the naked chick back. Nope, Series 3 was commissioned the same time as this one, plenty more to come. Hmmm interesting ending. Gonna have to spend the rest of the night working that out! Hint: He went back to Molly Harper (the pathologist) to tell her she mattered, and he needed her help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16573066 That's sweet! They were obviously just waiting for my commendation before they announced it. They've left it in a nice dramatci place for a new series what with Sherlock being widely believed a shyster, and in fact dead to to the bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Just a note if you haven't seen Sherlock don't read the above post as it contains Spoilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I have really enjoyed these programmes. I am a great lover of the more "traditional" SH and was not sure that I was going to like what they were going to do with it, but it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I really like Moffat's work but I'd stop short of declaring his genius. The idea of a contemporary Sherlock has been banging on for ages. This is actually the second piece of Victorian literature that Moffat has brought up to date (Jekyll being the first). But then you remember Coupling, which was arse. He was also responsible for Press Gang. Mark Gatiss is ace though, and has been for years. He is responsible for some pretty good Doctor Who episodes. Not many writers out there can boast complete success with their work, but he has written some of the best Doctor Who episodes (as well as Mark Gatiss) including Blink - one of the best things on TV in the 2000s. .....I actually quite liked Coupling. But then again, I was about 11 or 12, watching it on my 10" telly in my room at night after Buzzcocks had finished with the volume down so nobody could hear. Haven't seen it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 That's a bold claim! I've only seen a couple of episodes of Doctor Who and generally I think that while I lke cheese, in a sandwich or perhaps as a garnish to a quarterpounder, I couldn't pallet a great big lump of gorgonzola all in one go. I'm gonna check that episode out though just so that I can have the advantage of sneering at you afterwards What season is this blink in of which you speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 But then you remember Coupling, which was arse. . Couldn't dissagree more. One of the best comedies to come out of the UK in recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Great stuff! And next week they're dramatising Bird Song (by Sebastian Faulkes). One of the better books I've read. Thank heavens for the BBC. be interesting to see if they pull if they pull it off. Faulks has gone on record saying he wouldnt be unhappy if the book was never dramatized. If they can catch the tension in the tunnels on film the way he did in the book would make it compelling viewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 (edited) Couldn't dissagree more. One of the best comedies to come out of the UK in recent times. I'm pretty sure it was arse! Maybe you were been distracted by the pretty ladies which according to my records mainly looked like this: She played this character who I think was called Rachel Green. She had an on-off romance with this other character called Ross who went on to be in the Pirates of the Carribean. There was this player stud who got all the babes who for the sake of argument we'll call Joey and this funny welsh one who was called Chandler. I'm pretty sure there was a dippy girl too. Her name was Theobe. Edited 16 January, 2012 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 (edited) I'm pretty sure it was arse! Maybe you were been distracted by the pretty ladies which according to my records mainly looked like this: She played this character who I think was called Rachel Green. She had an on-off romance with this other character called Ross who went on to be in the Pirates of the Carribean. There was this player stud who got all the babes who for the sake of argument we'll call Joey and this funny welsh one who was called Chandler. I'm pretty sure there was a dippy girl too. Her name was Theobe. No mate, that was friends, the comedy which skirted around things such as sex and lasted for 10 series. Coupling is far more explicit and had the character Jeff Murdoch. (Up until series 4 anyway, and the actors departure killed it. ) Too simple a comparison comparing Friends and Coupling, next thing you'll be telling me that Pets and Mongrels are the same show because they both use puppet animals. Edited 16 January, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Hint: He went back to Molly Harper (the pathologist) to tell her she mattered, and he needed her help. Also I bet Watson getting mowed down by the motorcycle was no Coincidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 She had an on-off romance with this other character called Ross who went on to be in the Pirates of the Carribean. The one with the squid face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 No, that was Phoebe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 No, that was Phoebe. Oh, hence the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 That's a bold claim! I've only seen a couple of episodes of Doctor Who and generally I think that while I lke cheese, in a sandwich or perhaps as a garnish to a quarterpounder, I couldn't pallet a great big lump of gorgonzola all in one go. I'm gonna check that episode out though just so that I can have the advantage of sneering at you afterwards What season is this blink in of which you speak? Yep, it is pretty cheesy but when it's executed properly, Doctor Who is brilliant. I think the fact that it's aimed at a relatively young audience stifles what the writers can really do with the show though. Blink is Series 3 Episode 10, Steven Moffat actually won numerous screenwriting awards for the episode, including English and Welsh BAFTAs (who doesn't want a prestigious Welsh BAFTA?!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I'm pretty sure it was arse! Maybe you were been distracted by the pretty ladies which according to my records mainly looked like this: She played this character who I think was called Rachel Green. She had an on-off romance with this other character called Ross who went on to be in the Pirates of the Carribean. There was this player stud who got all the babes who for the sake of argument we'll call Joey and this funny welsh one who was called Chandler. I'm pretty sure there was a dippy girl too. Her name was Theobe. although comparisons are easy and rife, if you watch it thinking of friends then you'll not enjoy it, in reality it was at times hilarious, cant imagine Joey having a porn cuboard like Patricks.. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 If they didn't want me to think of Friends when watching Coupling then Moffatt shouldn't have been thinking of Friends when he was writing it I don't mean to be disagreeable though, it's very easy for me to sit here criticising when I only saw a half dozen episodes 10 years ago. I'll open myself up for similar abuse by admitting my favourite comedy of late was Him & Her which I absolutely loved but I'm yet to meet anyone who wouldn't sooner gouge out their own eyes than sit through an entire episode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Yep, it is pretty cheesy but when it's executed properly, Doctor Who is brilliant. I think the fact that it's aimed at a relatively young audience stifles what the writers can really do with the show though. Blink is Series 3 Episode 10, Steven Moffat actually won numerous screenwriting awards for the episode, including English and Welsh BAFTAs (who doesn't want a prestigious Welsh BAFTA?!). We've seen what happens when they remove the kid demographic from Doctor Who. It's called Torchwood, and is mostly arse (mini-series excepted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 If they didn't want me to think of Friends when watching Coupling then Moffatt shouldn't have been thinking of Friends when he was writing it No, he based the series on the story of him meeting his wife Sue Virtue. The main characters are not called Steve and Susan by accident. His first adult sitcom, 'Joking Apart' is also quite good. And coincidentally enough based on his divorce from his first wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Oh that's the story he put about? I bet he's going round telling people that Sherlock is nothing to do with Conan Doyle and is actually about how he came to meet his fifth wife Char Locke. What a cock! #kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Oh that's the story he put about? I bet he's going round telling people that Sherlock is nothing to do with Conan Doyle and is actually about how he came to meet his fifth wife Char Locke. What a cock! #kidding Bearsy, I think you're being extremely uncharitable about the depth of Moffat's big pool o' ideas. Only half of his stuff is based on the lead-up to boning a babe. The rest is Victorian stuff which he puts through his patented McMoffat Modernizer TM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I'm with you pap it's time for the Moffat backlash! he's getting too big for his boots going round making self-referential tv shows about his ex-wives and having a surname that I can't seem to spell the same way twice. Cock! #notkidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 We've seen what happens when they remove the kid demographic from Doctor Who. It's called Torchwood, and is mostly arse (mini-series excepted). Ah, but Moffat didn't write that... That was the brainchild of Russell T Davies - wholly responsible for the worst moments of the recent incarnation of Dr Who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Since we're having a moan, why did they change the Doctor Who theme music? It's only a little bit wail-y now. Anyone knows that it has to be 98% ethereal and weird for it to work. Leave it for the techno remix, Moffat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2012 Probably his ex-wife sings it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 January, 2012 Share Posted 16 January, 2012 I fear for his current missus the next time he fancies writing a romantic comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 18 January, 2012 Share Posted 18 January, 2012 Hadn't been following these but have caught up with a couple on Icefilms and it seems ok. I've read most of the books over the last year and I'm fully in favour of reworking the stories. To be honest, while the character is excellent, a lot of Conan Doyle's stories are pretty weak and I don't think he really had much inspiration for them. I guess that's why he tried to kill Holmes off. All of the fun is in the off hand observations he makes early on in a story, but the actual mysteries are often dull. It's also interesting that Moriarty comes up so often in Holmes adaptations as in the books he's only really in one short story at the end of the first run and isn't involved before that at all. Irene Adler also crops up a lot in films and on TV, but she's also only in one fairly bland short story. It's also been interesting to see how at first Holmes cocaine use is mentioned a lot, but later it's downplayed a lot, obviously a sign of the times. The films were OK but had nothing in common with the characters from the books. I can't imagine Watson getting into a fight and there was little of Holmes trademark deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 18 January, 2012 Share Posted 18 January, 2012 Since we're having a moan, why did they change the Doctor Who theme music? It's only a little bit wail-y now. Anyone knows that it has to be 98% ethereal and weird for it to work. Leave it for the techno remix, Moffat. I'm still upset (although, not really surprised) that the Beeb didn't use this version when they brought the series back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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