Legod Third Coming Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Anyone remember 'Arry saying he was better than Theo. I reckon he might be proved right...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 He's made Theo look like an amateur today. Fair play to the lad, he looks an established premiership player. Shouldn't ever play any lower now, he's made his career.
JackanorySFC Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 At the end of his career if he's scored more Prem goals, more international goals, more caps, more big champ lge apps then I suppose he might be right.
Saint_Jonny Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Swansea really are playing well against a strong Arsenal side. I wonder if they will go on to establish themselves in the top flight as Stoke City and Bolton have? They will if they keep playing like this.
Didcot Saint Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Great goal he just scored. He's certainly developed into a tricky and skillfull player. Walcot in a lot of games is largely ineffective.
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Walcott is still a sprinter and hasn't developed a footballer's brain. Dyer is there or thereabouts speed-wise and has a far better technique.
Didcot Saint Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Swansea really are playing well against a strong Arsenal side. I wonder if they will go on to establish themselves in the top flight as Stoke City and Bolton have? They will if they keep playing like this. The difference is Bolton will go down and Stoke play pub team football but to a higher standard. Swansea are excellent to watch. Hopefully we will replicate what they are achieving.
krissyboy31 Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Walcott is still a sprinter and hasn't developed a footballer's brain. Dyer is there or thereabouts speed-wise and has a far better technique.A bit unfair on Theo IMO. He would really benefit from moving away from Arsenal and playing in a more direct team. Reckon he'd be a top player for Spuds TBH.
Dr Who? Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 I know a few Arsenal fans who have said e can have him back, and they will take Lallana! They really do not want him or rate him.
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 I know a few Arsenal fans who have said e can have him back, and they will take Lallana! They really do not want him or rate him. And of course, Theo has just equalised!
Jack Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Goes to prove that players do move on too early. Theo had so much more potential than Dyer at a young age, but I think moving to Arsenal at just 17 was far too early. Dyer has had first team football for the majority of his career and he's progressed really well. I think 2 more seasons in the Championship would have really brought Theo on a lot I reckon. Will be interesting to see if the same will be true of AOC, but wouldn't surprise me. You can't get anywhere near as much out of reserve games as you do in a first team, even if it is at a lower level. As I type, good run and finish from Theo....
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 3 - 2, This is an alright game I suppose. That was Theo's first in 16.
Didcot Saint Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 I think we all spoke too soon! Just scored, and so have Swansea!
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 And of course, Theo has just equalised! Having said that!!!!! HA!
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 ...and Walcott scores a class equaliser! And Swansea take the lead again. Mertesacker, lol. Reminds me of Jakobson
krissyboy31 Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 How many ex Saints' have scored this weekend???
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Theo, I agree, should be played upfront. He doesn't have a wingers ability, so through the middle and he'd probably get 15-20 goals a season.
doggface Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 He looks a different player to the one we saw in the 1st team. Robbing little bastard
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 How many ex Saints' have scored this weekend??? Ormerod, Best, Theo, Dyer, Surman... I think? Did Skacel?
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 My favourite Nathan Dyer moment http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1660361.ece
krissyboy31 Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Ormerod, Best, Theo, Dyer, Surman... I think? Did Skacel?Skacel got 3.
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 ...and Walcott scores a class equaliser! And Swansea take the lead again. Mertesacker, lol. Reminds me of Jakobson His attempt at a finish there reminded me of BWP. Shocking player for us I'm afraid.
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 My favourite Nathan Dyer moment http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1660361.ece You sure it's not the thread that contained this image?
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 You sure it's not the thread that contained this image? Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
JackanorySFC Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 I know a few Arsenal fans who have said e can have him back, and they will take Lallana! They really do not want him or rate him. Really? I work with 4/5 arsenal ST holders and loads of fair weather types and they credit him with a lot of assists to RVP? They are also very knowledgable about European football and appreciate that pep guardiola rates him as the toughest opponent in England? None of them have heard of Lallana except for when I go on about him? The absolute salivation by some on here at the thought of Wallcott maybe failing is pathetic. I'm proud hexwas one of us, always speaks in glowing terms about the club and the city and is in the middle of an amazing career!
Jimmy_D Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Cracking game this though! It is! I can see where Swansea's reputation for playing good football this season has come from. Blueprint for us if we go up maybe?
Wildgoose Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Would love Theo or Dyer back at Saints but neither will happen.
SNSUN Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Dyer has had a cracking game. Good little player. Oxo on now too.
BILLY Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Just been voted Man of the Match by Alan Smith.
Colinjb Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Amazing that Swansea can play such good football on a Rugby pitch.
del boy Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 My memory of Dyer at Saints was him skinning someone then not really knowing what to do next. I always thought Theo had more of a brain - but good luck to em both - good to hear the taters asking if Southampton has got a factory for wingers (thats wingers not whingers) COYS
stmusicdude Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Walcott is still a sprinter and hasn't developed a footballer's brain. Dyer is there or thereabouts speed-wise and has a far better technique. rofl .. ok
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 January, 2012 Author Posted 15 January, 2012 Six Premiership Goals scored today. THREE by products of the Southampton Academy.
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 3 - 2, This is an alright game I suppose. That was Theo's first in 16. Watched the game, Arsenal need to go and buy a midfield, apart from Song in the "enforcer" role it's garbage, wouldn't get into our side any of them, doubt even if Ramsey and Benayoun would get a game for Pompey.Good game by Swansea though.
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Watched the game, Arsenal need to go and buy a midfield, apart from Song in the "enforcer" role it's garbage, wouldn't get into our side any of them, doubt even if Ramsey and Benayoun would get a game for Pompey.Good game by Swansea though. Never understood why people like Ramsey so much. Above average EPL midfielder... :/
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Above average EPL midfielder... :/ Not today, he was trying to play a role that he hadn't been given,he's not a playmaker but he improvised today and gave virtually every ball away, junk status.
mulletsaint Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 I'm not into slating Walcott, but it does seem that he moved too early and hasn't improved as much as he should have done IMO. I agree with the fact that he's playing in the wrong type of team. He may be having a good career but hardly an amazing one! He still has time on his side so maybe one day he'll truly fulfil his potential. Bale and Walcott at Barcelona one day? Was really impressed with Dyer and Swansea today. He looks a very intelligent and rounded player now. Hard working too, often nicking the ball back. I think it bodes well for us if we get promoted as we try to play a similar brand of football. Think we need a bit more pace and more about us in defence tho.
Saint Garrett Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Ok...I might be on my own here, but I really rate Ramsey, thought he bossed the game when Wales played England recently. Top player.
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 (edited) But as I said, not today. Think it was Desailly commentating for Canal + sport, said he should have been subbed after 20 minutes and had his ass kicked. Bet Wenger is regretting that he didn't take that advice now as he gave the ball away for Swansea's second goal and slowed Arsenal's attack virtually every time he touched the ball. Edited 15 January, 2012 by Window Cleaner
Mowgli Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 A bit unfair on Theo IMO. He would really benefit from moving away from Arsenal and playing in a more direct team. Reckon he'd be a top player for Spuds TBH. Not unfair at all. A lot of the experts are saying he has bags of pace but no footballing brain. You can't teach that. You either have it or you do not. He does not. Chamberlain on the other hand will be better than Walcott and Dyer because he reads the game so well and has the vision to recognise the correct pass. Walcotts goal was good and that's how to use him. Only one option really and he took it well.
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 I'm not into slating Walcott, but it does seem that he moved too early and hasn't improved as much as he should have done IMO. I agree with the fact that he's playing in the wrong type of team. He may be having a good career but hardly an amazing one! He still has time on his side so maybe one day he'll truly fulfil his potential. Bale and Walcott at Barcelona one day? Was really impressed with Dyer and Swansea today. He looks a very intelligent and rounded player now. Hard working too, often nicking the ball back. I think it bodes well for us if we get promoted as we try to play a similar brand of football. Think we need a bit more pace and more about us in defence tho. Walcott still makes too many bad choices with his final touch or choice of pass.Not mentally alert if he can't go it alone.
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Never understood why people like Ramsey so much. Above average EPL midfielder... :/ Wasn't aware you are an American Mr. Lungs!
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Goes to prove that players do move on too early. Theo had so much more potential than Dyer at a young age, but I think moving to Arsenal at just 17 was far too early. Dyer has had first team football for the majority of his career and he's progressed really well. I think 2 more seasons in the Championship would have really brought Theo on a lot I reckon. Will be interesting to see if the same will be true of AOC, but wouldn't surprise me. You can't get anywhere near as much out of reserve games as you do in a first team, even if it is at a lower level. As I type, good run and finish from Theo.... And also proves the lie of the Arsenal's much vaunted yoof development prowess
WokingSaint Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Feck Me! It seems that the English Prem (+ 1 Scottish Prem) and Championship are heavily reliant on ex Saints players. 3 involved Swansea v Arsenal and two scoring plus all the others playing regularly and Rudi scoring all the time! If we could have held onto them all they wouldn't be talking about Man U and Man C!
david in sweden Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 How many ex Saints' have scored this weekend??? RUDI SKACEL ..scored a hat-trick for Hearts...when is he going to sign?
Chez Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 has Dyer gained the strength to kick the ball further than 20 yards yet?
Colbury Posted 15 January, 2012 Posted 15 January, 2012 Based on today Nathan Dyer is a much better player than Walcott.
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