Appy Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 Apart from the result, I saw very little difference to this performance as we have been playing during our bad run. I thought Forest were very poor and gifted us the first goal then just disappeared when down to 10 men. The one noticeable difference was Cork, excellent in driving us on. Martin took it all in his stride and Hooivelt was the rock. Impressive professional foul on their forward, but done in such a manner that it looked impossible to give a red. We just were not cutting them open and creating quality opportunities apart from the error which allowed Cork the freedom to create. We played a lot of very tight triangles but nothing in the danger zone. I just don't see this as a turn around but delighted to take 3 points, tempered by the fact we threw away 3 against Brighton by stupidity. Guly and Lallana were not much different, Connolly marginally but the midfield did the business this time, with Cork outstanding. Ricky was not missed and little difference between previous and what Connolly put in today. The big plus was that we got the midfield working today and that will always give us a chance but we are not through the woods yet until we start to open up sides again with quality opportunities. Couldn't be more different to what i think. We looked much more fluid today, there is no way we only won because Forest are poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 Great win and performance by the sounds of it. Needed to get back to winning ways ASAP. Outside of the obvious challengers look out for Brum, 6-0 winners at Millwall and getting a strong run going. Just glad we've already got 10 points on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 Cotterill sounded his usual self to be fair and listened to 5 mins of his post match comments and he wasn't saying much about sending off and gave credit that we were out playing them before the sending off. Of course headline writers want controversy. Not to say he wasnt talking sh1te of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 Guly told me after the game that he had cramp. He'll be fine for next week. De Ridder told me he's struggling with his groin, which is why Holmes and Ben Reeves came on Cork said that Chaplow is in light training and about 3 weeks away from a return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 Guly told me after the game that he had cramp. He'll be fine for next week. De Ridder told me he's struggling with his groin, which is why Holmes and Ben Reeves came on Yeah thought it looked like Cramp actually, with how he went down and how he was trying to stretch out. I'd imagine he hasn't had much full training this week what with his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 I had an interesting chat with NA. I asked if he could speak Japanese. I asked if Lee could speak much English. Well he can say hello in Japanese, but made no further comments about the player. Interesting as well that JC didn't train with Lee when he was here. Sounded to me more like a fitness test rather than joining the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 I had an interesting chat with NA. I asked if he could speak Japanese. I asked if Lee could speak much English. Well he can say hello in Japanese, but made no further comments about the player. Interesting as well that JC didn't train with Lee when he was here. Sounded to me more like a fitness test rather than joining the squad? You sound like you managed to get pretty close to most of the team today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 I had an interesting chat with NA. I asked if he could speak Japanese. I asked if Lee could speak much English. Well he can say hello in Japanese, but made no further comments about the player. Interesting as well that JC didn't train with Lee when he was here. Sounded to me more like a fitness test rather than joining the squad? Ok I know it's late but by JC do you mean Cork? If so why would he not train with Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 January, 2012 Share Posted 14 January, 2012 (edited) Great result, though it was a professional rather than a champagne performance. We were very comfortable and patient but didn't create that much until the flurry of chances at the end. Above all, Forest were woeful - the hoofball and a has-been harewood played into our hands as its bread and butter for Jos and for all the talk about Cotterill's teams being physical, was amazed how much time and space our midfield was given and that more than anything laid the foundations for our victory. Connolly deserves special mention for all his runs alone, though he was a tad wasteful in possession in the 2nd half. It does seem that when DC is in the team, we can play with a narrower formation -and that suits our 3 CMs, especially when Cork is furthest advanced of the trio. Harding also did a very good job at RB, providing the kind of width we've expected from Frazer and was unlucky not to see more of the ball after working himself into good positions. Finally, Adam looked like he had hit some form -and was involved in most of our attacking play. But lets not get too carried away - Forest were devoid of ideas and rhythm well before the sending off, a shadow of the team we played at SMS. But I'm not going to lose too much sleep over the ins and outs of the performance given I was confidently expecting us to hit a brick wall at the start of the day. Edited 14 January, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Good result and a much needed away win. Off the top next Saturday night though - and all our nearest rivals have dolly ups agains the poorest sides in the division. Will need to beat Leicester in front of the dreaded Sky Cameras Monday night without Lambert. Going to be a while before the pressure is off I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Good result and a much needed away win. Off the top next Saturday night though - and all our nearest rivals have dolly ups agains the poorest sides in the division. Will need to beat Leicester in front of the dreaded Sky Cameras Monday night without Lambert. Going to be a while before the pressure is off I feel. pressure is on until May as the 2200 showed yesterday bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 pressure is on until May as the 2200 showed yesterday bring it onabsolutely. When we are playing well we can beat any side in this division, we have proved that, so there is no need to worry. This season could be the best I've ever seen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 A quick question for any goalkeepers or goalkeeper coaches amongst you. Why are these low shots,driven in from outside the area that bounce and skid just before they get to the keeper's range causing so much difficulty? Saw three of them on last night's Sky Sports round up,Morgan,J Rod, Modric, not identical but all with exactly the same characteristics as stated above, you'd say that all three were keeper error but there must be something that doesn't meet the eye to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Absolute nonsense. In what world was Hooiveld's yellow ever going to be a red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. buying a new striker won't make Martin finish better, besides Holmes and Martin are our reserves so we'll be stronger when Chaplow and Fonte return anyway Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. what are you talking about? The red was an obvious red and the yellow was a yellow no more. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. the poor run IS over. Besides I don't think we have been playing badly recently anyway. We were very good against Brighton till the red card and I thought we played well enough in the Bristol City game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. Load of boll oxs. No luck involved. We destroyed them and we were never in danger of losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 A quick question for any goalkeepers or goalkeeper coaches amongst you. Why are these low shots,driven in from outside the area that bounce and skid just before they get to the keeper's range causing so much difficulty? Saw three of them on last night's Sky Sports round up,Morgan,J Rod, Modric, not identical but all with exactly the same characteristics as stated above, you'd say that all three were keeper error but there must be something that doesn't meet the eye to them.you thought Morgan's goal was down to a keeper error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. This post is utter rubbish. I was at the match and it was one of the easiest Saints away wins I've ever seen. Hooiveld was never going to get a red, Fox was covering and it was just a trip. We created far more chances and dominated possession. Forest were poor and the only way they were going to score was through a set piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 you thought Morgan's goal was down to a keeper error? No,but only because of the way the shot was struck if it was deliberately made to bounce and skid like that. I think Paris and ART must have watched on L'Equipe TV as well and they'll confirm that our commentators said that Camp should have had it because he went down too late.I maintain that it's the way the shots are struck that are causing keepers to keep letting the ball go under them but wouldn't mind knowing why.Keepers are performing fantastic saves high and mid-height but these creepy low bastards seem to be troubling them more than ever,as Kelvin's 2 recent push outs show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 No,but only because of the way the shot was struck if it was deliberately made to bounce and skid like that. I think Paris and ART must have watched on L'Equipe TV as well and they'll confirm that our commentators said that Camp should have had it because he went down too late.I maintain that it's the way the shots are struck that are causing keepers to keep letting the ball go under them but wouldn't mind knowing why.Keepers are performing fantastic saves high and mid-height but these creepy low bastards seem to be troubling them more than ever,as Kelvin's 2 recent push outs show. I also thought the keeper should have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. You are unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 I also thought the keeper should have done better. He should have, yes. But what is your point? You could say with pretty much every goal scored that someone should have done better. A left back gets done by a winger, the centre half loses his man, the holding mid doesn't track back, the man on the post moved clear leaving goal exposed. There is always someone who should have done better. Obviously. Fact is, Morgan's effort was too much for Lee Camp. Goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 He should have, yes. But what is your point? You could say with pretty much every goal scored that someone should have done better. A left back gets done by a winger, the centre half loses his man, the holding mid doesn't track back, the man on the post moved clear leaving goal exposed. There is always someone who should have done better. Obviously. Fact is, Morgan's effort was too much for Lee Camp. Goal.Agree with this and he also made some cracking saves to keep the score down. You could also say Martin should have done better with his 'air shot' which with any sort of touch was a guaranteed goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Agree with this and he also made some cracking saves to keep the score down. You could also say Martin should have done better with his 'air shot' which with any sort of touch was a guaranteed goal. No but really it was a great goal but I think it's the way the ball is struck that's causing the "keeper error" and not the keepers themselves, these shots seem to be fooling more than one keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 I just thought it was just brilliantly struck and keeper had no chance. It's been coming. The lad has a very good shot on him. Worried he has still not signed a new contract. He could play in the Prem now (perhaps that is the problem). Lets get the lad signed on a 5 year deal ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 I just thought it was just brilliantly struck and keeper had no chance. It's been coming. The lad has a very good shot on him. Worried he has still not signed a new contract. He could play in the Prem now (perhaps that is the problem). Lets get the lad signed on a 5 year deal ASAP. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2426115,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Morgan resigned to 2014 thank goodness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2426115,00.htmlcheers. I missed that or forgot. Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. oh please Blackburn won with 10 men yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 He should have, yes. But what is your point? You could say with pretty much every goal scored that someone should have done better. A left back gets done by a winger, the centre half loses his man, the holding mid doesn't track back, the man on the post moved clear leaving goal exposed. There is always someone who should have done better. Obviously. Fact is, Morgan's effort was too much for Lee Camp. Goal. That I thought it could/should have been saved. That was also the opinion of the 6 of us that travelled to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 No but really it was a great goal but I think it's the way the ball is struck that's causing the "keeper error" and not the keepers themselves, these shots seem to be fooling more than one keeper. Perhaps it's travelling faster making it look as if the keepers are slow to get down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Thats the point i'm making. It seemed strange as well that NA was not very open to questions about Lee. Yet if his signing is a formality????? I was a bit confused. I would also say that NA always has time for us supporters and I think he leads by example. A great role model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. As the saying goes, if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. She doesn't and isn't. We won 3-0 and it could have been 6. On another day we will deserve to win and lose. And on many more we will deserve to win and win. That's football. Defender misses sitter. So, what, you want us to sign Torres to play Centre Back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Absolute nonsense. In what world was Hooiveld's yellow ever going to be a red? Totally agree and the ref evening said to Jos that he'd taken one for the team (yellow). Jos new what he was doing. He saw the danger and in the split second decided to accept a yellow. Never a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 (edited) Back to the red card,which was pretty evident, when I saw it happen I said, that's a nailed on red,what with the new instructions about dangerous play and all, not even worth appealing. Anyway as to our players appealing for a red card doesn't look that way at all from the video or the stills, all the usual suspects are there in a huddle,either spoiling for a fight with some evidently excited Forest players,ie Fox or trying to pull them apart.Good job the ref didn't see any of that. Edited 15 January, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. Good post which puts things in perspective. Too early to say that we are out of the woods and we need to actually get some players in rather than just talking about it. Lee is a good start, but hope it is not the end as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Totally agree and the ref evening said to Jos that he'd taken one for the team (yellow). Jos new what he was doing. He saw the danger and in the split second decided to accept a yellow. Never a red. Wasn't the last man, didn't lose control of his body and contact wasn't heavy. Agree with you and mitch01. Never a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. Many of us saw much more than the highlights yesterday, due to the nice stream of information that was available. Having watched almost all of the whole thing, there is no way we would have lost that game, even if Forest had kept all their guys on the pitch. Forest had a good spell toward the last end of the first half, but it was by no means assured. Quick breakaways after winning 50/50 balls involving maybe 2 or three players. Saints attacking game was in a different dimension. Patient, clever build up which pulled the opposition all over the place. The problem with highlights is that they are invariably focused on goal scoring opportunities. We won by three clear goals and missed a couple of sitters. That's what the highlights will show. However, I can assure you that in the meat-and-potatoes of the game, retaining possession, moving the ball, nullifying the attacking threat of the opposition, Forest were always second best to Saints and apart from one spell, didn't look like troubling us. Our passing was mostly bloody lovely yesterday. 61% possession says it all, really. Let's also remember that "poor run" doesn't necessarily equal poor play. Most people on this forum would acknowledge that we were very poorly treated by officials in the Brighton game, and even when we haven't won, I've rarely seen us play badly this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some great comments about the Clot on a Forest forum. He's a ****ing cock. "You can't go into this league with 5 defenders." The day after he's loaned out a defender. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- surely he can't say we were good today? He said, southampton were the better side in the first half, and he said they were obviously better in the second half. But he also said it was harsh to say southampton were the better side today. Whatever that means? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- He's a ****ing cock. "You can't go into this league with 5 defenders." The day after he's loaned out a defender. And a week after releasing 2 others ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 After seeing the highlights on the Football League Show you can see why Adkins wants to strengthen and why he said they should have scored more against the 10-men. No team will ever score from every opportunity and Guly and Cork not converting their chances was understandable, but Holmes and Martin should both have scored. Holmes showed lack of instinct when he stopped the ball when he was clear through, which allowed the defenders to block his way to goal. As for Martin, even a defender should not miss an open goal from that close. Given the red card that could easily have been a yellow and the yellow card that could easily have been a red, there was more luck about this game than a comfortable 3-0 scoreline would suggest. Against a team in the bottom 3, we could have been a goal or two down in the first half hour and it could have been us with 10-men against 11. So, it was a good game to win and if it improves player confidence so much the better but it didn't leave you confident that the poor run is over. On the other hand, one or two new players in the side could make the difference as well as Lambert, Fonte and Chaplow still to return. I assume you weren't there. Pathetic post, so wide of the mark it's untrue. Stop posting like you know what you're talking about, when you clearly don't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Wasn't the last man, didn't lose control of his body and contact wasn't heavy. Agree with you and mitch01. Never a red. Might have been a red card on Planet D'Urso though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 A quick question for any goalkeepers or goalkeeper coaches amongst you. Why are these low shots,driven in from outside the area that bounce and skid just before they get to the keeper's range causing so much difficulty? Saw three of them on last night's Sky Sports round up,Morgan,J Rod, Modric, not identical but all with exactly the same characteristics as stated above, you'd say that all three were keeper error but there must be something that doesn't meet the eye to them. They've always caused problems for keepers. Some years back the challenge was magnified by worn goal areas that could cause the ball to rear-up unpredictably. Now that element is less of a problem because the pitches wear much better, but it has been replaced by the unpredictability of the livelier ball; the pre-match pitch watering magnifies the chance that the ball will skid and pick up pace. When Tim Howard scored the other day the ball bounced higher than I ever remember seeing, and it would have "done" better keepers than Bogadan. That was a freak but the underlying issue is the thing that susses out poor technique. The really good keepers always seem to have a back-up plan and you'll see Joe Hart, for example, bring his chest into play even when diving, with the hands trapping the ball as soon as it hits his chest. He also makes an early decision to parry, which gives him a much better chance of parrying to a safe area rather than back out towards onrushing strikers. Something else we see is that too many keepers time their advance poorly. They start too soon and have to stop, meaning that when the shot comes they're trying to dive from a flat-footed position which limits their reach on either side. Just my "five eggs", but I think it's much harder to be a good keeper these days and that's compounded more than ever by weaknesses in technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 from the clips from the football league show it looks like hammond had a bloody good game ...underestimated player at times imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Many of us saw much more than the highlights yesterday, due to the nice stream of information that was available. Having watched almost all of the whole thing, there is no way we would have lost that game, even if Forest had kept all their guys on the pitch. As The Guardian match report stated "The goal came on the break but Southampton looked a side preserving their energies, not one inhibited by Forest. " Even on a stuttering stream the game was a delight to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 from the clips from the football league show it looks like hammond had a bloody good game ...underestimated player at times imo Totally agree, we miss him when he doiesnt play, thought he was MOM yesterday. Goes unnoticed in the way Oakley did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 As the saying goes, if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. She doesn't and isn't. We won 3-0 and it could have been 6. On another day we will deserve to win and lose. And on many more we will deserve to win and win. That's football. Defender misses sitter. So, what, you want us to sign Torres to play Centre Back?? No she wouldn't. HTH xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 That's football. Defender misses sitter. So, what, you want us to sign Torres to play Centre Back?? He'd have done exactly the same as Martin tbf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 from the clips from the football league show it looks like hammond had a bloody good game ...underestimated player at times imo Does not get the recognition even from some of our so called experts on this forum..... Highly thought of by the management , fellow pros and the opposition scouting reports....fact from Heinz sawce... A top player and our Captain...says it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2012 Share Posted 15 January, 2012 Does not get the recognition even from some of our so called experts on this forum..... Highly thought of by the management , fellow pros and the opposition scouting reports....fact from Heinz sawce... A top player and our Captain...says it all... He's not as good as England's next Steven Gerrard, Gary Dicker. (LOL@Brighton fans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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