hypochondriac Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 We are making a third offer for Hooper very soon. Hooper's request for an improved deal has been turned down by Celtic, until the summer at least Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Maybe but what if the Celtic board are more willing to negotiate a fee than Lennon would like or admit? What if Hooper is making it clear that he's not as happy as his proclamations on their OS? That way they may be more anxious if we go elsewhere? Just a thought really. A distinct possibility. I've felt for a while that we will be back in with a last day offer for Hooper: Sharp may be a tool to push things along quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Rubbish. How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 How do you know? I don't believe it. We have moved on, were never going to spend 6 million on Hooper at any rate and Celtic aren't going to sell their star striker to a championship team for anything other than a largely inflated price in this window. It's not just the money, it's a matter of pride. We have had numerous denials and Hooper saying he wants to stay whilst Adkins says he has pretty much given up. The summer may be a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 24 January, 2012 Share Posted 24 January, 2012 Well, you can say what you like. I predicted 17th back in August and I stand by it. We will lose our next five for a start. You are hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 January, 2012 Share Posted 25 January, 2012 Rubbish. You dont know this. Dont have to believe it of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 January, 2012 Share Posted 25 January, 2012 I don't believe it. We have moved on, were never going to spend 6 million on Hooper at any rate and Celtic aren't going to sell their star striker to a championship team for anything other than a largely inflated price in this window. It's not just the money, it's a matter of pride. We have had numerous denials and Hooper saying he wants to stay whilst Adkins says he has pretty much given up. The summer may be a different matter. Yep players who have said they are happy where they are, have never moved on a week or two later have they. Players who seek a much improved deal, but have been turned down by their club and offered a lot more somewhere else also never move. Young, english, pacy forwards who have a great track record but also have a lot more potential to come are always available for peanuts when under contract at a large club. Clubs who have plenty of finance and a very real prospect of premier league football soon, and who need to strengthen now as well as prepare for the very tough challenge next season never would spend decent money. Thanks for clearing it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 January, 2012 Share Posted 27 January, 2012 And if we win tomorrow we'll be top and 4 points + goal difference ahead of 3rd, having had a poor run of form (bar the last two games). That's also a fact. You could have said that our recent away form is excellent, as we've won 2 games on the road on the bounce. That's a fact. If you extrapolated our last 8 games out across the season, then we wouldn't be top, granted. But it's never that straightforward. If we do in the second half of the season what you didn't think we'd do in the first half of the season, we'll probably be promoted automatically (based on past points tally for auto promotion). Your opinion seems to be that we won't get promoted, which is fine by me, as that's your opinion. Personally I have no idea. I hope we do, but there's a lot of twists and turns from here. Make that 9 ! Oh, by the way have we signed Hooper yet as I promised to self destruct if we had not that i thought it was ever likely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 you know everyone is holding their breath, Dalek..waiting for Tuesday midnight to see if Hooper does sign.. IF he does.... are you going to do your impression of a suicide bomber in public, or will you quietly implode at home ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 you know everyone is holding their breath, Dalek..waiting for Tuesday midnight to see if Hooper does sign.. IF he does.... are you going to do your impression of a suicide bomber in public, or will you quietly implode at home ? If it happens I will have to self destruct. Trouble is the daleks always have a habit of coming back in a different form and from a different time zone. So Dalek in name but different type of Dalek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 If it happens I will have to self destruct. Trouble is the daleks always have a habit of coming back in a different form and from a different time zone. So Dalek in name but different type of Dalek. More sensible and less tiresome?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 For Celtic to sell their star player to a championship club would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for all those who think that Celtic and rangers could hold their own in the prem. 'Top of the SPL Celtic sells star player to lowly championship club'.....not a headline that does their cause any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 For Celtic to sell their star player to a championship club would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for all those who think that Celtic and rangers could hold their own in the prem. 'Top of the SPL Celtic sells star player to lowly championship club'.....not a headline that does their cause any good. It has been pointed out many times that with premier resources Celtic would hold their own in the prem and their top players would be of a higher calibre than Hopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 For Celtic to sell their star player to a championship club would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for all those who think that Celtic and rangers could hold their own in the prem. 'Top of the SPL Celtic sells star player to lowly championship club'.....not a headline that does their cause any good. Just one more reason why it won't happen (not now anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 If it happens I will have to self destruct. Trouble is the daleks always have a habit of coming back in a different form and from a different time zone. So Dalek in name but different type of Dalek. I think you're great. It's those who get het up with what's posted on a tin pot forum that makes me think ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Make that 9 ! Oh, by the way have we signed Hooper yet as I promised to self destruct if we had not that i thought it was ever likely ! You really are a dull and tedious individual. If you're able to read, please go back and tell me where I said we would definitely sign Hooper? I said that, in my opinion, we would make another bid. That was it. End of story. Please allow me the courtesy of having an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 You really are a dull and tedious individual. If you're able to read, please go back and tell me where I said we would definitely sign Hooper? I said that, in my opinion, we would make another bid. That was it. End of story. Please allow me the courtesy of having an opinion. Of course you are entitled to an opinion, and other people are entitled to question it as well. Your opinion is that we'll make a third bid (not sign) and strangely enough given that we've said that we're not interested, the player has said he's happy and Celtic have said they don't want to sell, many people disagree with you. I'm not sure what your problem is with people questioning or asking you to justify your opinion is? Surely you should have expected that given you have nothing to back it up with except your own guesswork. Of course you may well be right but you're probably not and that's all anyone is saying. Always makes me laugh when people hide behind the "it's just my opinion" argument when they're pulled up on it as if anyone is trying to deny them the right to an opinion. No one has said that - merely that you're probably wrong. There's been a few instances on this thread (not always you) where the conspiracy theorists have rather weirdly asked people to justify why we won't go back in for Hooper (as if we needed any more evidence); I think Hypo had one a few days ago. I'm sure you'll base your justification on the fact that Celtic made the bid public, conveniently forgetting that actually it was probably Celtic reacting to press reports and not instigating anything. Nigel does it all the time. So don't get all annoyed - I'm just saying that you're probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 If it happens I will have to self destruct. Trouble is the daleks always have a habit of coming back in a different form and from a different time zone. So Dalek in name but different type of Dalek. You don't mean time zone, you mean a different time, or time space continuum if you want to sound clever. A different time zone would be France, and I don't think the French would get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Of course you are entitled to an opinion, and other people are entitled to question it as well. Your opinion is that we'll make a third bid (not sign) and strangely enough given that we've said that we're not interested, the player has said he's happy and Celtic have said they don't want to sell, many people disagree with you. I'm not sure what your problem is with people questioning or asking you to justify your opinion is? Surely you should have expected that given you have nothing to back it up with except your own guesswork. Of course you may well be right but you're probably not and that's all anyone is saying. Always makes me laugh when people hide behind the "it's just my opinion" argument when they're pulled up on it as if anyone is trying to deny them the right to an opinion. No one has said that - merely that you're probably wrong. There's been a few instances on this thread (not always you) where the conspiracy theorists have rather weirdly asked people to justify why we won't go back in for Hooper (as if we needed any more evidence); I think Hypo had one a few days ago. I'm sure you'll base your justification on the fact that Celtic made the bid public, conveniently forgetting that actually it was probably Celtic reacting to press reports and not instigating anything. Nigel does it all the time. So don't get all annoyed - I'm just saying that you're probably wrong. Er, I was just pointing out to Dalek that I didn't say he'd sign. That was all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Er, I was just pointing out to Dalek that I didn't say he'd sign. That was all. Conveniently forgetting you'd had a pop at me earlier in the thread mate. Fact is you really don't like anyone questioning your little hopeful conspiracy theory do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 You really are a dull and tedious individual. If you're able to read, please go back and tell me where I said we would definitely sign Hooper? I said that, in my opinion, we would make another bid. That was it. End of story. Please allow me the courtesy of having an opinion. I would appreciate the same if you don't mind. BTW I am happy that you have an opinion, but it annoys me when people change their opinion without ever admitting to it. It's like the boys in the playground, changing their teams to the latest flash in the pan, hoping people will forget their history. Or, the football shirt 'changers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 You don't mean time zone, you mean a different time, or time space continuum if you want to sound clever. A different time zone would be France, and I don't think the French would get you. Point taken and very well put indeed. Or you a member of DWAS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Point taken and very well put indeed. Or you a member of DWAS ? I really hesitate to ask but DWAS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Well, you can say what you like. I predicted 17th back in August and I stand by it. We will lose our next five for a start. Taking bets on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 I really hesitate to ask but DWAS? Dr Who Appreciation Society. Kept the flame burning during the bleak days of the 1990's. Obsessively bombarding the BBC to bring back the Daleks. Apparently the BBC became fed up of 40% of all enquiries being about the minute detail in Dr Who eposodes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 I clicked this thread hoping to see some news about Hooper. What do I get? A bunch of idiots arguing. On other forums trolls like Dalek are sniffed out after a few posts/days and are placed on block lists. Eventually they get bored because nobody is taking their bait and stop posting. Either that or people play along and find it funny. It's just a novelty with no harm done. This is the only forum I've seen where people keep getting offended by the same people over and over and don't do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 So gods sake mods please close this thread. By all means re-open it IF something happens, but this is boring beyond belief and the last few posts have had nothing to do with Hooper but dialougue between a few posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 So gods sake mods please close this thread. By all means re-open it IF something happens, but this is boring beyond belief and the last few posts have had nothing to do with Hooper but dialougue between a few posters. I too am getting thoroughly p!ssed off at threads going off at a tangent due to various posters and their detractors repeating their ongoing debates - which have f^ck all to do with the topic...whether its Hooper or whatever else. Anyway only a few frantic days of the window left*. then it will be a "why we did not sign [insert one of several names]this window " threads, populated by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 He predicted 17th with a season of struggle, not being good enough etc. He never predicting proving we are good enough, being top in the new year, then collapsing all the way to 17th. whatever happens, it was an odd prediction and there's only been evidence against it so far. Is it good to stick with your predictions (albeit twist them), or actually learn from the evidence presented to you? Still, as the trolls and illogical bedwetters go, Darlek is the acceptable face. Thankyou. BTW it is Dalek ! For one last time I am not a troll ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 I too am getting thoroughly p!ssed off at threads going off at a tangent due to various posters and their detractors repeating their ongoing debates - which have f^ck all to do with the topic...whether its Hooper or whatever else. Anyway only a few frantic days of the window left*. then it will be a "why we did not sign [insert one of several names]this window " threads, populated by... OK, lets get back on thread. Quite a few posters claimed we were close to signing Hooper. Presumably they had good evidence to support their claims. What was the main obstacle to him coming or do you think it was all in peoples imagination ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 OK, lets get back on thread. Quite a few posters claimed we were close to signing Hooper. Presumably they had good evidence to support their claims. What was the main obstacle to him coming or do you think it was all in peoples imagination ? Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Celtic being desperate to keep player doing well and so put price at multi-millions - more than similar player will go for in summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Dropping from the posibility of playing champions league football next year to potential away trips to Peterborough United may have been more swaying then a few thou a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Stop bumping this f***ing dead thread! Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 If it happens I will have to self destruct. Trouble is the daleks always have a habit of coming back in a different form and from a different time zone. So Dalek in name but different type of Dalek. oh ....so does that mean that after you vaporise...you will be re-instated... as (dare I say it)... Dalek 2012........that will disappoint a lot of people .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Stop bumping this f***ing dead thread! Oh Don't concern yourself, KPT...if we haven't signed Hooper by Tuesday midnight.....this thread will die a natural death....unfortunately Dalek won't ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 oh ....so does that mean that after you vaporise...you will be re-instated... as (dare I say it)... Dalek 2012........that will disappoint a lot of people .. the 2003 was added after one of the Saintsforever reincarnations, I was just Dalek before that. I was a 'normal' poster until the 2004 debacle when I had some sort of 'overload to the system' Never really got over it as many rightly point out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 oh ....so does that mean that after you vaporise...you will be re-instated... as (dare I say it)... Dalek 2012........that will disappoint a lot of people .. It seems like the only vapour on this thread was the evidence supporting the claim tha Hooper was coming. Seems like some of our Scottish 'friends' were right despite all the abuse they got ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 Don't concern yourself, KPT...if we haven't signed Hooper by Tuesday midnight.....this thread will die a natural death....unfortunately Dalek won't ! But then we will look to bring him in on loan. Just because the transfer window closes on Tuesday thats not the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 January, 2012 Share Posted 28 January, 2012 But then we will look to bring him in on loan. Just because the transfer window closes on Tuesday thats not the end of it. On loan ! Never going to happen. I suppose you mean the thread will continue. I think one poster already left that open by saying he will come in the summer. Also presumably siad by same poster to save face ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 Saints called Celtic first thing today to make a final offer for Hooper. Celtic chairman refused to take the call so we went for Sharp. From a good mate who is with players now. I understand Celtic are looking at a few strikers themselves today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 This thread is TBC in the summer for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 30 January, 2012 Share Posted 30 January, 2012 Not needed now, let's wait for the summer. If we go up, he will be a Saint next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 There is a Story in the Scottish Sun this morning about Gary Hooper going to Zenit St Petersburg or Moscow for £7 million which they say is the figure Celtic want. Surely it would be worth us upping our offer to £7 million if it meant we had him as part of our plans for next season. If we make it to the prem we will need several top quality strikers. Time to dig deep Nicola ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 There is a Story in the Scottish Sun this morning about Gary Hooper going to Zenit St Petersburg or Moscow for £7 million which they say is the figure Celtic want. Surely it would be worth us upping our offer to £7 million if it meant we had him as part of our plans for next season. If we make it to the prem we will need several top quality strikers. Time to dig deep Nicola ?Eh? WHat would be the point now we have signed Sharp? We don't need any more strikers this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 Eh? WHat would be the point now we have signed Sharp? We don't need any more strikers this season. We will need extra firepower in the premier if we make it and it would also not be a bad idea for the rest of this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 We will need extra firepower in the premier if we make it and it would also not be a bad idea for the rest of this season For now I think we'll be OK with Lambert, Connolly, Barnard, Sharp, Guly, Lee and Reeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 Blimey, we'd have more strikers than the public sector if we signed him Hooper as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 We will need extra firepower in the premier if we make it and it would also not be a bad idea for the rest of this season 1) We are not in the PL yet, and might not be come the end of the season 2) Do you think it would be good business to splash £7m on a striker when you already have arguably the two best strikers in the league plus Tadanari Lee, Connolly and Barnard in the squad? Doesn't make any sense - we cannot play four up front every game so we are gonna have to leave either Sharp, Hooper or Lambert warming the bench. Can't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 31 January, 2012 Share Posted 31 January, 2012 We absolutely don't need any more strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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