thorpie the sinner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 @BBCchrismclaug Chris McLaughlin Southampton boss Nigel Adkins tells me he's all but given up hope of signing #Celtic striker Gary Hooper. @BBCchrismclaug Chris McLaughlin Adkins: #Celtic dont want to sell, so thats it. We move on. I know Gary and I'm delighted he's done so well. He's a top class striker. The fat lady is certainly warming up her tonsils, oh well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 What a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Southampton admit failure to sign Celtic's Gary Hooper Page last updated at 16:04 GMT, Friday, 20 January 2012 E-mail this to a friendPrintable version Hooper has scored 16 times in his second season with Celtic Southampton boss Nigel Adkins has all but given up hope of persuading Celtic to part with striker Gary Hooper. The Championship leaders have already had two bids rejected by the Scottish Premier League pacesetters. And Adkins told BBC Scotland: "Celtic say they don't want to sell him. So that's it, end of story. "I know Gary and I'm delighted he's doing so well. He's a top-class striker, but we have other good strikers here, so we move on." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 What a waste of time. Promised to be that way when the(reported) price started going up on a daily basis.Just another one to add to the long list of strikers we didn't sign,mainly because we don't pay that sort of money as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Well that's that then, Another 31 page thread on a striker we never signed!!! The worrying bit is that he said we have ''other good strikers here already'' - i hope that doesn't mean he's now not looking to strengten up top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 At least we can put Forte up there when we dont make a signing in jan!!! mmm.....Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 @BBCchrismclaug Chris McLaughlin Southampton boss Nigel Adkins tells me he's all but given up hope of signing #Celtic striker Gary Hooper. @BBCchrismclaug Chris McLaughlin Adkins: #Celtic dont want to sell, so thats it. We move on. I know Gary and I'm delighted he's done so well. He's a top class striker. This was obvious ages ago. Not sure how we are going to get the top class striker we clearly want though if we only go for players that clubs want to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Well that's that then, Another 31 page thread on a striker we never signed!!! The worrying bit is that he said we have ''other good strikers here already'' - i hope that doesn't mean he's now not looking to strengten up top... J-Rod or Sordell please. If what has been reported is true, then we have at least 4M to splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 This was obvious ages ago. Not sure how we are going to get the top class striker we clearly want though if we only go for players that clubs want to sell. I think signing a top class striker might have to wait till summer, when hopefully we'll have the added attraction of Premier League kudos and wonga. We'll just have to hope Guly/Connolly maintain fitness and form. Would also help if Barnard could make a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 J-Rod or Sordell please. If what has been reported is true, then we have at least 4M to splash. Won't happen as Burnley do not want to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Yes but I would rather go for the likes of sharp than the likes of hooper if we are much more likely to secure sharp. We shall see at the end of the window! See no reason to change the stance here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Won't happen as Burnley do not want to sell. Why should they, they're just 3 points from the play-off places with a pretty clement looking run-in. Probably why they've signed McQuoid on loan as well, isn't Austin injured just now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 If Austin is fit and over his shoulder problem I'd be happy with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Why should they, they're just 3 points from the play-off places with a pretty clement looking run-in. Probably why they've signed McQuoid on loan as well, isn't Austin injured just now? Of course they shouldn't. I just question our transfer policy on the basis that we appear to be going for a few players that we had no chance of getting. Most people realised we wouldn't be getting Hooper as there was no chance that Celtic would sell their best player to an NPC club. J-Rod seems very unlikely also. Sordell we could get perhaps. I hope that we don't end up with no more strengthening up front. Clearly we want more reinforcements up there so if we don't get any that will be disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Who can I sue for emotional distress and time wasting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 mehball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Who can I sue for emotional distress and time wasting ? Because we failed to get Hooper or because of lots of crap on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Of course they shouldn't. I just question our transfer policy on the basis that we appear to be going for a few players that we had no chance of getting. Most people realised we wouldn't be getting Hooper as there was no chance that Celtic would sell their best player to an NPC club. J-Rod seems very unlikely also. Sordell we could get perhaps. I hope that we don't end up with no more strengthening up front. Clearly we want more reinforcements up there so if we don't get any that will be disappointing. But we've signed Tadanari Lee, can't be any worse than Jonno Quick although some say that his ball control leaves much to be desired.Then there's Falque,may be a good loan signing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Of course they shouldn't. I just question our transfer policy on the basis that we appear to be going for a few players that we had no chance of getting. Most people realised we wouldn't be getting Hooper as there was no chance that Celtic would sell their best player to an NPC club. J-Rod seems very unlikely also. Sordell we could get perhaps. I hope that we don't end up with no more strengthening up front. Clearly we want more reinforcements up there so if we don't get any that will be disappointing. The fact that we're NPC has nothing to do with it. They would sell to BSC if the price was right for them. The fact that Celtic will only sell at an over the top price is probably the main reason why we won't get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 But we've signed Tadanari Lee, can't be any worse than Jonno Quick although some say that his ball control leaves much to be desired.Then there's Falque,may be a good loan signing there. I must admit, I am looking forward to seeing the purple archer play, still feel we need the major signing NA alluded to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Because we failed to get Hooper or because of lots of crap on here? Well some seemed to believe that we would actually and eventually bid 8 million £ or so. Do they not know us? I mean you only have to look back to the summer and remember that we didn't meet Swindon's asking price of 1.8 million £ for Austin and if you read some blogs we offered a measly 200K+add ons for CMS whilst exacting 12 million £ for AOC. So if they were silly enough to think that we'd meet an elevated asking price for Hooper that can only go down as self-inflicted suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 I think signing a top class striker might have to wait till summer, when hopefully we'll have the added attraction of Premier League kudos and wonga. We'll just have to hope Guly/Connolly maintain fitness and form. Would also help if Barnard could make a comeback. It's very risky to gamble promotion on it. This guy from Fulham even on loan sounds quite good. I would go for something like that if we can't pull these other deals off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 But we've signed Tadanari Lee, can't be any worse than Jonno Quick although some say that his ball control leaves much to be desired.Then there's Falque,may be a good loan signing there. I never denied that, I just feel that we really need a new striker in January. Seemingly the management agree if the rumours are to be believed. I still question the wisdom of Adkins referring to us possibly signing a very big name. Then when we inevitably fail to get the very big signing, it's a bit underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Well some seemed to believe that we would actually and eventually bid 8 million £ or so. Do they not know us? I mean you only have to look back to the summer and remember that we didn't meet Swindon's asking price of 1.8 million £ for Austin and if you read some blogs we offered a measly 200K+add ons for CMS whilst exacting 12 million £ for AOC. So if they were silly enough to think that we'd meet an elevated asking price for Hooper that can only go down as self-inflicted suffering. My thoughts exactly and so correct imo! I did wonder if it was, one rule for Saints and one rule ...... you know the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 I think NA might want to go back in for Hooper in the summer and so he's not going to want to spend big on a interim acquisition. Another loan might be a option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los_saint Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16643271.stm That's that then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 I never denied that, I just feel that we really need a new striker in January. Seemingly the management agree if the rumours are to be believed. I still question the wisdom of Adkins referring to us possibly signing a very big name. Then when we inevitably fail to get the very big signing, it's a bit underwhelming. 1) he never said that we might sign a "big name" and 2) show a bit of self control and don't build yourself up if you're so sure that it's inevitable that we won't make a significant signing. We've already got 2 of the top scorers in this league, DC is quality and we've already signed an International level striker. Another proven scorer would be a bonus but chill out FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Thank goodness that is over. On to our next target and another 30 + pages of wet dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 1) he never said that we might sign a "big name" and 2) show a bit of self control and don't build yourself up if you're so sure that it's inevitable that we won't make a significant signing. We've already got 2 of the top scorers in this league, DC is quality and we've already signed an International level striker. Another proven scorer would be a bonus but chill out FFS. He said we might make a big signing (or words to that effect if I remember correctly). I can't be bothered to go and find the exact quote. It doesn't change the point of my post, I didn't build myself up, I am taling about the fanbase in general. I just don't think it's the wisest thing to do. I'm perfectly chilled thanks. If we are to believe the various rumours about strikers, the management clearly agree with my assertion that another striker would improve our chances of promotion. Doing it without another striker is a fair bit of a risk and I would prefer us to strengthen further as otherwise we are relying on the fitness of Connolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Anybody that helps us to the hallowed land of the Premier League will do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Moose_talkSPORT Ian Abrahams Transfer gossip - I can confirm the Hammers has "an interest" in Jelavic of Rangers but also in other players too 11 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Saints strikers roll call Connolly...present Guly.....present De Ridder ...present Lambert.....present after the next match,all patched up and rested Lee.....soon to be present Barnard....seen in training today Forte...........present'ish Reeves......present 8 strikers and we were taking the **** out of West Ham cos they've got 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 So whose still available then? Sharp? Maynard? Austin? I'd be very, very happy with any of these in the team. Will give us that extra vital thrust in front of goal we need. Swansea are targeting Maynard in a swap deal with Dobble. I'm sure Briz would be happy to have Puncheon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 He said we might make a big signing (or words to that effect if I remember correctly). I can't be bothered to go and find the exact quote. It doesn't change the point of my post, I didn't build myself up, I am taling about the fanbase in general. I just don't think it's the wisest thing to do. I'm perfectly chilled thanks. If we are to believe the various rumours about strikers, the management clearly agree with my assertion that another striker would improve our chances of promotion. Doing it without another striker is a fair bit of a risk and I would prefer us to strengthen further as otherwise we are relying on the fitness of Connolly. I can't be arsed to find the exact quote either but he said that we might get a loan, a small signing, a major signing or no one at all......can't see how that can build up a fanbase when essentially it means **** all. You could just as easily say he's underplaying our aims this transfer window. As I said, we'll have Lee shortly so we won't have to rely on the fitness of DC especially as RL and Guly rarely miss games anyway. I think they are keen to get someone with an eye on the prem rather than someone who can fire us to promotion. We've scored a bucket load already this season and NA appears to have lots of faith in our current players which is the right thing to do if the value isn't out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Saints strikers roll call Connolly...present Guly.....present De Ridder ...present Lambert.....present after the next match,all patched up and rested Lee.....soon to be present Barnard....seen in training today Forte...........present'ish Reeves......present 8 strikers and we were taking the **** out of West Ham cos they've got 7. - Forte won't be here much longer - Reeves isn't a striker - De Ridder isn't really a striker - Guly Do Prado you could argue isn't really a striker Which leaves... Lambert Connolly Guly Do Prado Tadanari Lee - when he arrives Barnard - Injury and other issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Saints strikers roll call Connolly...present Injury Prone Guly.....present Midfielder De Ridder ...present hit an miss, too inconsistent to start every week at the moment Lambert.....present after the next match,all patched up and rested Banned for one game but yes after that he'll be present Lee.....soon to be present Very excited by this signing but he could easily not settle for a while Barnard....seen in training today Injured and has been all season. Will take match practice to get him back up to the pace once he is fit Forte...........present'ish Awful Reeves......present Untested. Looks like he could be a decent player, but can't rely on him. 8 strikers and we were taking the **** out of West Ham cos they've got 7. This is why IMO, we do need another striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Saints strikers roll call Connolly...present- Tendency to get injured for long periods. Guly.....present- De Ridder ...present - Not a striker Lambert.....present after the next match,all patched up and rested Lee.....soon to be present- Quite possible that he will take time to adjust to the league, especially coming from a totally different culture and style halfway around the world. Barnard....seen in training today- I heard he was going to be out for longer. Also other rumours that he was being sent on loan. Unproven in this league. Forte...........present'ish- terrible player. Reeves......present- Youth team player. Not what we need for the run in. 8 strikers and we were taking the **** out of West Ham cos they've got 7. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 I can't be arsed to find the exact quote either but he said that we might get a loan, a small signing, a major signing or no one at all......can't see how that can build up a fanbase when essentially it means **** all. You could just as easily say he's underplaying our aims this transfer window. As I said, we'll have Lee shortly so we won't have to rely on the fitness of DC especially as RL and Guly rarely miss games anyway. I think they are keen to get someone with an eye on the prem rather than someone who can fire us to promotion. We've scored a bucket load already this season and NA appears to have lots of faith in our current players which is the right thing to do if the value isn't out there. There was no need to mention getting a major signing IMO. The way he said it implied to me that that was what we were after. Subsequent big money rumours of Hooper suggests that what he meant too. IMO there was no reason to mention it, it's not what we have done up until now with regards to transfer policy. I preferred our previous approach. With regards to your other point, see above for the outline as to why I believe we need another striker. Injuries to one or two will leave us woefully short as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppysaint Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Who is this player someone said it was 80% certain we would get. Couldn't have been Hooper as that couldn't have been that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 We clearly did have a chance of getting him. Despite some on here might think they know more than about whether this was a non-starter than Adkins - there would have been numerous conversations involving those involved in the game which would have given Saints the idea that it was worth trying. We have scored 50 league goals, West Ham 41, Cardiff 41, Middlesborough 30. We have had injuries suspensions to Lambert, Guly, Connolly, Barnard, Chaplow and De Ridder. Lambert 17 goals, Guly 11, Connolly 6, De Ridder 4, Chaplow 4. We have added Yago Falque for more attacking flair. We have added Tandari Lee who scored 15 goals last season in Japan and the winning goal in the Asia Cup. I don't think Adkins thinks we need another forward, and will just take anyone. The team in coming weeks Lallana / Falque on the wings, with Lambert and Guly up front. 5 on the bench from - Bart, Martin, Cork, Connolly, De Ridder, Holmes, Butterfield, Doble, Barnard, Chaplow and Tandari Lee. I don't think Adkins will be desperately seeking a last panic deal to get a forward in - unless he believes he is real quality and good for the long term and worth jumping ahead of the others - e.g. Hooper. Will he want to clog up squad if he thinks he will have another go for Hooper in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Who is this player someone said it was 80% certain we would get. Couldn't have been Hooper as that couldn't have been that high. Falque afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 If Austin is fit and over his shoulder problem I'd be happy with him. Oh heck, not another 45 pages of gossip about Charlie Austin to look forward to.... In all seriousness, I've never liked the way he always seems to take great delight in scoring against Saints, he also seems to have put weight on from his Swindon days if I'm not mistaken. It also pains me to think we could be spending over £2 million on a player we could have got for £25,000 from Poole Town. That said, on balance, I have to agree with you about Charlie Austin. He's a talented player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Phoned a friend in Scotland who's a Celtic shareholder. She said she received a newsletter today saying Saints had only offered 4 million so far. That the club doesn't want to see Hooper leave. If we were to increase our bid they may accept to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Phoned a friend in Scotland who's a Celtic shareholder. She said she received a newsletter today saying Saints had only offered 4 million so far. That the club doesn't want to see Hooper leave. If we were to increase our bid they may accept to let him go. That might have been true at the time the newsletter went to press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Phoned a friend in Scotland who's a Celtic shareholder. She said she received a newsletter today saying Saints had only offered 4 million so far. That the club doesn't want to see Hooper leave. If we were to increase our bid they may accept to let him go. Indeed. IMO we haven't seen the last of this yet...we're only in text book negotiation phase 2 at the moment... Phase 1 - go in low; repeat 2 or 3 times Phase 2 - say it's all over - go quiet Phase 3 - go in with higher last minute offer Still 10 days to go until phase 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 (edited) There was no need to mention getting a major signing IMO. The way he said it implied to me that that was what we were after. Subsequent big money rumours of Hooper suggests that what he meant too. IMO there was no reason to mention it, it's not what we have done up until now with regards to transfer policy. I preferred our previous approach. With regards to your other point, see above for the outline as to why I believe we need another striker. Injuries to one or two will leave us woefully short as well. So who do you think deserves to be dumped from the first 11 or squad the then, especially as you're so keen to see a major signing this window? All teams are weakened by injury and people have been saying the same thing for the last 2 windows and I'm yet to see us suffer such a string of injuries which has caused us to implode. We've got a good squad with good flexibility and options. Edited 20 January, 2012 by Dig Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Oh and to those saying Guly isn't a striker, what the **** is he then? He 's played as a striker for most of the season and scored 11 goals so far and numerous assists... sounds like a striker to me. I've also heard that he's not a winger or CM either so clearly not a midfielder as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 Oh and to those saying Guly isn't a striker, what the **** is he then? He 's played as a striker for most of the season and scored 11 goals so far and numerous assists... sounds like a striker to me. I've also heard that he's not a winger or CM either so clearly not a midfielder as well! Guly currently joint third in the League scoring charts. Good player, anyone who comes in needs to be better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16643271.stm That's that then. I presume that is a joke. The facts as we know them are these - it is reported that Saints have made offers for Hooper and NA has (unusually) said that this might be true. This still means we may or may have really wanted him. Celtic whilst clearly keen to cash in and start an auction have very publicly tried to push the price up. NA has now publicly tried to push the price down by saying its all over. The ball is now in Celtic's court (although I dare say Hooper's agent is still pushing). If they come back and say okay how about price X it may go through. In short we are no nearer or further away from signing Gary Hooper than we ever have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 20 January, 2012 Share Posted 20 January, 2012 - Guly Do Prado you could argue isn't really a striker A guy who has played upfront pretty much all season and 2nd top goalscorer. I'd like to see your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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