Sour Mash Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Let's hope Celtic is run by a businessman. You'd have to be daft to turn down such a return on investment. IMHO of course. They'd make far more from Champions League qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Hooper signs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Hooper signs! tut tut, next time start a thread. Your trolling is poor, very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 tut tut, next time start a thread. Your trolling is poor, very poor. haha!! in my defence - I did find the sign totally by accident through work research and just HAD to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Lennon's having to do a lot of fending off this window it would seem.... http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/kris-commons-not-for-sale-as-new-bhoy-radiu-ibrahim-signs-on-1.1144324 Kris Commons not for sale as new Bhoy Radiu Ibrahim signs on 19 Jan 2012 NEIL LENNON today moved quickly to dismiss speculation Kris Commons could be heading back to England. The midfielder, who joined the club from Derby in a £300,000 move this time last year, made an immediate impact, with 14 goals in 18 starts. But Commons has failed to maintain that standard this season, and injury and suspension have restricted him to just 13 appearances. All of this has come against a backdrop of rumours of a fall-out with the manager, something which has been vehemently denied by both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I don't think I'd be taking career advice from Anthony Stokes - but it does give you some kind of indication of the level of the Scottish Premier League at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I don't think I'd be taking career advice from Anthony Stokes - but it does give you some kind of indication of the level of the Scottish Premier League at the moment. Stokes not Pulis!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Work with a hell of a lot of Celtic fans who have basically said up until the last couple of days that there is no way Hooper is going to leave and 6mil is not enough for many of the reasons stated here (haven't won league for 3 years, playing well, no backup if he goes). Last couple of days they're starting to get worried and 30 seconds ago I get an email from one of them saying we've bid £8 million. Apparently posted by one of their guys on the Celtic FB group (which is locked). He's trying to find out the source of that before people ask. No idea if we have, neither he nor I are in ITK, just passing on what I've just been told. Personally, love the speculation, little worried about the reported 36k per week if true. We just need to look down he road to see where overspending takes us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 A mate has just told me that we've offered Lallana & Puncheon plus cash for Hooper. He reckons that's why we've taken the lad on loan from Spurs to replace Lallana. I can't help but feel that he's trying to take the ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 A mate has just told me that we've offered Lallana & Puncheon plus cash for Hooper. He reckons that's why we've taken the lad on loan from Spurs to replace Lallana. I can't help but feel that he's trying to take the ****? Preposterous...you could bet your old boots that AL wouldn't want to go to Celtic, we've no doubt had offers for him from far better sides and turned them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 A mate has just told me that we've offered Lallana & Puncheon plus cash for Hooper. He reckons that's why we've taken the lad on loan from Spurs to replace Lallana. I can't help but feel that he's trying to take the ****? Yes he is trying to take the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 A mate has just told me that we've offered Lallana & Puncheon plus cash for Hooper. He reckons that's why we've taken the lad on loan from Spurs to replace Lallana. I can't help but feel that he's trying to take the ****? No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 A mate has just told me that we've offered Lallana & Puncheon plus cash for Hooper. He reckons that's why we've taken the lad on loan from Spurs to replace Lallana. I can't help but feel that he's trying to take the ****? I think you can safely say thats not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Personally, love the speculation, little worried about the reported 36k per week if true. We just need to look down he road to see where overspending takes us. The £36k a week is only if/when we get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 A mate has just told me that we've offered Lallana & Puncheon plus cash for Hooper. He reckons that's why we've taken the lad on loan from Spurs to replace Lallana. I can't help but feel that he's trying to take the ****? Lallana is worth more than Hooper on his own. Your mate is probably winding you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 It's fairly obvious that NC has slowly raised the ante... bit-by-bit...until the Celtic Board get an offer... they can't refuse ! An offer of a potential triple salary would brighten Hooper's lifestyle,(and his agent's bank account).. and one which Celtic wouldn't want to have to match ! GH is Adkins' "new Lambert" and to see the two of them plundering defences would be worth the ticket money alone. I guess it's only a matter of time..11 days?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Your mate is probably winding you up. doubt if that would be any too hard, Friend Cestrian seems to be easily of despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 The Insider at the Mail rates the move as a strong possibility at 3/5. (5/5 = Done Deal) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2088894/The-Insider-Carlos-Tevez-PSG-takes-shape.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Work with a hell of a lot of Celtic fans ... and 30 seconds ago I get an email from one of them saying we've bid £8 million. Cor blimey Mr Roy. We mean seriously business if true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 considering we keep everything quiet, I love all these figures being bandied about! I think we will get Hoops but I bet the figure won't be disclosed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 considering we keep everything quiet, I love all these figures being bandied about! I think we will get Hoops but I bet the figure won't be disclosed!!! the figures probably come from Championship Manager or something like that.We will not pay 6/7/8 million £ for a player whilst we are in the NPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 considering we keep everything quiet, I love all these figures being bandied about! I think we will get Hoops but I bet the figure won't be disclosed!!! the figures probably come from Championship Manager or something like that.We will not pay 6/7/8 million £ for a player whilst we are in the NPC My thoughts exactly, apart from the "we will get Hoops" bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 the figures probably come from Championship Manager or something like that.We will not pay 6/7/8 million £ for a player whilst we are in the NPC How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 How do you know? Because...........we don't do that.Look at our current side...who's the player for whom we've paid most Fox,Jos, take your pick but it's a side that's been assembled carefully and thoughtfully at a reasonable cost and we'll not change that methodology until we have the financial bonanza of the PL to help us. This 6 million/8 million stuff is just made up shîte or agent talk.It happens every transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Work with a hell of a lot of Celtic fans who have basically said up until the last couple of days that there is no way Hooper is going to leave and 6mil is not enough for many of the reasons stated here (haven't won league for 3 years, playing well, no backup if he goes). Last couple of days they're starting to get worried and 30 seconds ago I get an email from one of them saying we've bid £8 million. Apparently posted by one of their guys on the Celtic FB group (which is locked). He's trying to find out the source of that before people ask. No idea if we have, neither he nor I are in ITK, just passing on what I've just been told. Personally, love the speculation, little worried about the reported 36k per week if true. We just need to look down he road to see where overspending takes us. I suppose it might just be £5 million down, plus £1 million if we get promoted, and up to £8 million if he plays for England. After all most of our big transfer deals to other clubs have had such stages. If the Celtic board want to sell but are worried about fans' reaction, to have a headline that says 'fee up to £8 million' sounds good , even if there is little chance of the last 2 milion or so ever being paid. And if he ever did become an England player he'd be worth more than £8 million anyway, so a deal like that would sense for us too. Even the £36k a week isn't so much by premier league standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 the figures probably come from Championship Manager or something like that.We will not pay 6/7/8 million £ for a player whilst we are in the NPC I wouldnt be so sure. Spending £6/7/8M to get to the PL is small change in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Celtic fans would rebel if we did sign Hooper more than the Leeds fans have at the news Howson is off. I'd love it if it came true, but I just think it's pie in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Thought it was dead in the water a day or two ago, now not so sure. Shocked West Ham haven't put a bid in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Thought it was dead in the water a day or two ago, now not so sure. Shocked West Ham haven't put a bid in! Or Leicester, with a bid £5 million more than we were planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 8m? We could get Maynard + Adomah + Fontaine for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Celtic fans would rebel if we did sign Hooper more than the Leeds fans have at the news Howson is off. I'd love it if it came true, but I just think it's pie in the sky. Not so sure. If you go on their fans forum a lot of people think £8m would be a good price and would understand that Hooper would want to triple his wages. They dont want to lose him still, but are unlikely to get the torches out if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I wouldnt be so sure. Spending £6/7/8M to get to the PL is small change in comparison And not to mention he could well be scoring goals for us for the next 8/9 seasons. Also NA's possible influence on Hooper must be greater than any other stricker of similar ability or quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I suppose it might just be £5 million down, plus £1 million if we get promoted, and up to £8 million if he plays for England. After all most of our big transfer deals to other clubs have had such stages. If the Celtic board want to sell but are worried about fans' reaction, to have a headline that says 'fee up to £8 million' sounds good , even if there is little chance of the last 2 milion or so ever being paid. And if he ever did become an England player he'd be worth more than £8 million anyway, so a deal like that would sense for us too. Even the £36k a week isn't so much by premier league standards. Does seem to be the way deals are structured these days! Sounds plausible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 (edited) 8m? We could get Maynard + Adomah + Fontaine for that cant be bothered sorry Edited 19 January, 2012 by Give it to Ron cant be arsed to argue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 His name has been mentioned to me before christmas and since by a few people close to the club. Nothing concrete has been said but I think there is more chance of that than Hooper. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-Michael-Owen-believes-can-play-for-England-again-after-manager-Fabio-Capello-leaves-article855106.html Owen looking to get back into the England squad (after Capello leaves in the summer one assumes).... Obviously worth a *chortle* but what better way to get back up to match fitness than be loaned out to a top of the table Championshiop side for the rest of this season with a view to a permanent deal (for say 2 years) if/when said table topping championship side get promoted.... (Keep in view......every so often I write stuff that I don't believe either....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 First I doubt very much we have had a £6m bid turned down. I doubt we have made a bid that high. Hooper has yet to gain any national first team recognition even as a possibility in the near future. Sure he is scoring goals and may be just want we want but £8m quoted in the press. You must be joking. If this guy is such hot property how come no other club have gone in with a bid? They will have seen the press reports of Saints interest! IF we have to pay £6m that is a lot of money. I know the owners/manager want to build for the future but we know they will not be held to ransom on price. As far as I am concerned this deal will not be made in this transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Speaking to Sky Sports News, Alan Pardew has admitted deliberately throwing the media 'off the scent' in terms of Newcastle's search for a striker. Pardew originally claimed that he was NOT looking to sign a striker this window, yet days later Pa**** Demba Cisse arrived. His point is that clubs do 'lie' and issue denials even though something is true/untrue. All clubs do it! How does this relate to Saints? Well, Celtic's stance on Hooper not being for sale COULD fall into that category. Whilst they'd be loathe to lose him, an 'exceptional' bid would certainly tempt them to do business, especially when the player himself isn't against the idea of moving, earning a significant wage increase in the process. In short, don't take everything you read/hear from a club as gospel, especially during the transfer window. It's like an elaborate game of chess that doesn't conclude until the end of January! Just don't get overly worried and enjoy the rumours, we'll find out one way or another soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-Michael-Owen-believes-can-play-for-England-again-after-manager-Fabio-Capello-leaves-article855106.html Owen looking to get back into the England squad (after Capello leaves in the summer one assumes).... Obviously worth a *chortle* but what better way to get back up to match fitness than be loaned out to a top of the table Championshiop side for the rest of this season with a view to a permanent deal (for say 2 years) if/when said table topping championship side get promoted.... (Keep in view......every so often I write stuff that I don't believe either....) Martin O'Neill and Scott Parker are still waiting for him to chip in with the rent for their collective flat in Winchester. Those advocating Hooper at silly prices shoulod just remember back to last summer and remind themselves where Parker,Owen,Maynard and Sharp are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 8m? We could get Maynard + Adomah + Fontaine for that And none of them are good enough for the Prem. Not sure Fontaine is any better than Martin, nor Maynard than Guly or Connolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Stokes not Pulis!! Now Anthony PULIS is someone I'd seriously consider taking career advice from. Never has so much been earned with so little. Aside from Jade Goody and Jordan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Because...........we don't do that.Look at our current side...who's the player for whom we've paid most Fox,Jos, take your pick but it's a side that's been assembled carefully and thoughtfully at a reasonable cost and we'll not change that methodology until we have the financial bonanza of the PL to help us. This 6 million/8 million stuff is just made up shîte or agent talk.It happens every transfer window. I think we might be transitioning to a different era in the Club's evolution, the one in which we start seriously preparing for life in the Premier League. In fact, I suspect we've been doing that for some time with key players (such as Lallana, Fonte and Lambert) - in the form of "accelerator clauses" in their contracts that provide for a significant wage boost if/when we reach the Premier League. If that's the case I'm less concerned about Hooper's alleged wages unsettling the dressing room because the ones we least want to unsettle are looked after. I'm much more concerned that these continual apparent leaks from the Celtic (or player) end will cause Cortese to walk away, given how much he detests publicity around matters such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Celtic fans would rebel if we did sign Hooper more than the Leeds fans have at the news Howson is off. I'd love it if it came true, but I just think it's pie in the sky. They already are rebel scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Not so sure. If you go on their fans forum a lot of people think £8m would be a good price and would understand that Hooper would want to triple his wages. They dont want to lose him still, but are unlikely to get the torches out if they did. Heard that Celtic have said no to Hooper's request for a much improved deal, via his new agent, at least not now, in the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 If this guy is such hot property how come no other club have gone in with a bid? They will have seen the press reports of Saints interest! Ron, that exact question has crossed my mind - especially given the number of Premier League teams that desperately need someone who can put the ball in the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Ron, that exact question has crossed my mind - especially given the number of Premier League teams that desperately need someone who can put the ball in the net. I thought Lennon said another team had made a bid/shown interest (I swear Adkins commented on something similar to that, that Lennon had said?) I'd hope there isn't anyone else interested though as that would only serve to drive the price even higher. What does it matter that other teams aren't interested anyway? There could be hundreds of reasons why other teams interested aren't prepared to bid just right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Ron, that exact question has crossed my mind - especially given the number of Premier League teams that desperately need someone who can put the ball in the net. Possibly because he's only 18 months into his Celtic life, if he keeps scoring regularly he almost certainly will be on many radars come summer time, making it even more important to land him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Just silly money, Id rather have Sordell and maybe another defender for that price and Sordell has what we need...pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 If this guy is such hot property how come no other club have gone in with a bid? They will have seen the press reports of Saints interest! Not being a critic of NA, but could it be that he doesn't like being outside of his comfort zone? I know Lee signing kind of ruins that idea, however we have been linked with nearly every half decent player NA has managed. Therefore most Prem clubs wouldn't pay such a fee as stated, but as Hooper and NA have worked together before then he is willing to pay over the odds to get him on board without taking a risk. (Might not make sense, and realise this debate could go round and round in circles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 I thought Lennon said another team had made a bid/shown interest (I swear Adkins commented on something similar to that, that Lennon had said?) I'd hope there isn't anyone else interested though as that would only serve to drive the price even higher. What does it matter that other teams aren't interested anyway? There could be hundreds of reasons why other teams interested aren't prepared to bid just right now. I discount most of what Lennon says. The apparent lack of interest matters because, when strikers of his supposed calibre become available, there's never any shortage of interest in them. And the noise around this suggests that Hooper is - or may be - available. It doesn't mean we should start back-pedalling but it is a valid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2012 Share Posted 19 January, 2012 Possibly because he's only 18 months into his Celtic life, if he keeps scoring regularly he almost certainly will be on many radars come summer time, making it even more important to land him now. It's Celtic FFS, I could score goals against Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Mallaig Wanderers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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