Lazlo78 Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 I don't understand the reference, and I am straight, but hey, if it takes the limelight away from the OP, let's get it on right here on the dance floor! Reading this thread my mind was desperately trying to flee and your "dripping tap that needs fixing" suddenly sounded like intro dialogue from a cheesy xxx-movie. This board is getting to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 (edited) How about a Should Baj give Alpine a Permanent Ban like Deppo poll thread? Lets put this to bed once and for all. Edited 8 January, 2012 by Jonnyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 Reading this thread my mind was desperately trying to flee and your "dripping tap that needs fixing" suddenly sounded like intro dialogue from a cheesy xxx-movie. This board is getting to me... I am no longer not confused! I need a new head too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 AP's last summer Would that be the summer that preceded our promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Yes, I agree its getting boring. I am supposed to be attention seeking, whereas in reality this nothing more than a whipping post. The purpose of the thread has failed somewhat, though there were a few decent contributions. You STILL don't get it do you Alpine? Sheesh! You start this thread to try and highlight to the mods about supposed bullying. If that was your only concern then you could easily have done it via PM, but no - you started a completely new thread on the main board no less. This is attention seeking - nothing more nothing less. You don't see it because you don't want to. What's more, you started the thread to get some feedback and now that you have decided you don't like the feedback you have received, you claim the thread is getting boring. You made the bed - you lie in it! Having read through most of this thread I can find only a handful of posts I would describe as unfair or 'whipping' as you put it - the vast majority have made very valid points that you have chosen to ignore. You complain that there is a lack of real debate, but you flatly refuse to accept any position that is contrary to the pessimistic drivel that you constantly post, so if there is a lack of real debate then you are the guilty party IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Alpine is a great guy, truely not at all a really odd massive ****, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 How about a Should Baj give Alpine a Permanent Ban like Deppo poll thread? Lets put this to bed once and for all. I don't think that Alpine should banned. He not as offensive as some, but I do find his constant negativity incredibly tiresome. Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 17,000 posts? Jeeshhhh!!!!! Needs a life, not a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Alp's is quite easy to waste 2/3 of my precious posts a day on, however you can ignore him without having to click the ignore button, but it takes an amazing amount of personal willpower but it pays off after 2-3 years. but it can be done kids... (or just go on twitter, he's not on there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Alp's is quite easy to waste 2/3 of my precious posts a day on, however you can ignore him without having to click the ignore button, but it takes an amazing amount of personal willpower but it pays off after 2-3 years. but it can be done kids... (or just go on twitter, he's not on there) No, but 19C is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 No, but 19C is!! I liked him. He really pushed the buttons of some forum mentalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I liked him. He really pushed the buttons of some forum mentalists. He was VERY good at that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I am of the opinion NA has done a great job to get us promoted. That run at the end of last season was incredible. However, most of the ingredients were already in place for him. Last season is now history. This season is what matters. He's got us into a great position for a double promotion, but I fear the campaign is faltering, and I want to see the right decisions at the right time to get it back on track. I dont see this happening, currently. I find it strange that people keep saying I am clueless when all I am doing is focusing on the now and the immediate future, and not dwelling on the past. I echo these sentiments also. You might as well give up Alpine.....save yourself a fiver. If you don't tow the party line, you get lambasted.The views of some are so polarised it is astonishing. Quite a shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I echo these sentiments also. You might as well give up Alpine.....save yourself a fiver. If you don't tow the party line, you get lambasted.The views of some are so polarised it is astonishing. Quite a shame really. If views were expressed like he did above all the time, then more people would discuss and engage with him, but unfortunately it's usually not. I actually agree that some of the polar views expressed on here are rather silly IMO, but it works both ways. Both sides need to ignore those who add little to the discussion, and the polar extremes are usually in this camp, because they don't want to discuss. And as I mentioned earlier, there is no 'party line' and anyone trying to create or promote such generalisations only serves to diminish their own argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Alpines biggest problem is the fact he is Alpine. People pay more attention to his comments than other peoples, even if they were to say the same thing. Some of the quieter members here could post, word-for-word, the same message as Alpine and it wouldn't get anywhere near the response. There is a lot of history to that though, with blame at the foot of many people not just Alpine. I don't disagree with many of the points he makes, but I always prefer discussion and debate over shouting and name calling and that's often how it ends. IMO, this is where the 'party line' bit comes from. It's not a party line, it's just a party of members who insist on taking every opportunity, however small, to fight with Alpine. Alpine's responses fuel that fire and the chaos begins... There are other posters who need a SaintsWeb holiday before Alpine though. Particularly someone who gets off on posting 'As I predicted... we will finish 17th' at every given opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Alpines biggest problem is the fact he is Alpine. People pay more attention to his comments than other peoples, even if they were to say the same thing. Some . Its not, its really not that. Alpine over dramatises and over reacts, never taking a thoughtful middle way when the extremities are available. Its not just Saints related, look at the death penalty thread for example. Why come on a discussion board if you want only to talk but not listen? or a fans forum where you only want to criticise and not praise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 (edited) 17,000 posts? Jeeshhhh!!!!! Needs a life, not a ban. c.17,000 posts spread over 5 years at an average time of 1 minute per post = 0.64% of his life. Hardly significant in the general scheme of things (said Trousers, who has also wasted less than 1% of his life on here....) (This post was brought to you by the 'Matt Le God Attention to Detail Appreciation Society') Edited 9 January, 2012 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 If 17,000 posts totalling 17,000 minutes equates to 0.64% of Alpine's life, that would make him 5 years old. Hm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 If 17,000 posts totalling 17,000 minutes equates to 0.64% of Alpine's life, that would make him 5 years old. Hm.... The sample was taken from Nov 2006 to Nov 2011 (i.e. c.17,000 posts over the 5 years those posts were made). Of course, I might just have fallen into a "whoooooosh" trap there.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 The sample was taken from Nov 2006 to Nov 2011 (i.e. c.17,000 posts over the 5 years those posts were made). Of course, I might just have fallen into a "whoooooosh" trap there.... ;-) Its just possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Its not, its really not that. Alpine over dramatises and over reacts, never taking a thoughtful middle way when the extremities are available. Its not just Saints related, look at the death penalty thread for example. Why come on a discussion board if you want only to talk but not listen? or a fans forum where you only want to criticise and not praise? Holy Krap, that explains EVERYTHING Alps is not some fat git sitting in Austria. It's my scouse supporting ex-wife Nailed her down to a T with those descriptions Should have seen it LONG ago - NOTHING is ever good enough.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Holy Krap, that explains EVERYTHING Alps is not some fat git sitting in Austria. It's my scouse supporting ex-wife Nailed her down to a T with those descriptions Should have seen it LONG ago - NOTHING is ever good enough.... God Ive been there and done that. I can see the attraction of Dubai now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 For me Alpine its the fact that you only ever seem to spring out of the woodwork when something's gone wrong, or you've got something bad to highlight. It comes across as though you actively revel in the bad stuff, and want to whip everyone else into a frenzy of despair too. It comes across as though you love it and it makes you happy when things are going badly. That is why people question whether you are a 'supporter' in the normal sense, because most supporters do exactly that - 'support', i.e. try and be a positive force - but you don't seem to want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 He was VERY good at that!! Alpine and Dune are 19C light. 19C was actually very funny if you read him as a troll. Was very entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I echo these sentiments also. You might as well give up Alpine.....save yourself a fiver. If you don't tow the party line, you get lambasted.The views of some are so polarised it is astonishing. Quite a shame really. Thats complete hogwash...I don't toe the party line and question Cortese and Adkins when I see that it needs doing...like Morgan behind the strikers at Doncaster. What does get up peoples nose is crap like "he has lost the dressing room", " the players are not playing for him" afte a couple of games and things posted like that after only a couple of weeks of Adkins reign. Alpine posts lots of valid stuff and I was a fellow anti-Burley but his good points get lost among all the doom and despair- I cannot forget his post about the Ashes and we lost the series on day 1 of the first test FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I'm quite glad you live in Austria and don't go to many games because if you did, you'd probably start booing if we weren't 2-0 up after 10 minutes.SMS is a pretty positive place now, where the fans get behind the team even when things are not going our way or when they're not playing at 100%. And that's a very positive thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I dont agree with this. There is a pre-conception about the value of my opinion due to the amount of games I attend. This is only right and proper. If you don't go you can't have such a valid opinion about the players and team as someone who does go to games and actually sees the action. Some of your comments have been rediculous considering you don't go to games - you will inevitably invite critisism if you have opinions on something you haven't seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 My apologies for putting it here, it seems the right place and this topic will probably generate feedback from the users. Move it if you deem it necessary. Is the main board supposed to be for diverse discussion of all things Saints, including trips down memory lane, various trivia, but most importantly about the current situation with the team - but in the latter case only as a mutual masturbation glee-club about how wonderful everything is with dissenting or conflicting opinions completely taboo ??? Do you guys realise just how much systematic abuse is being dished out for anyone who doesnt toe the "party line" ? I may throw back the odd piece of abuse, but the agression and sheer nastiness has become mostly a one-way street, and there are others receiving this treatment too, just because we dont feel everything is so damned peachy at SMS. Everytime someone questions or doubts the wave of euphoria, a dozen posts come crashing in with vile abuse. Is that the sort of site you want ? I haven't read the whole thread, but assume that it has gone completely off topic (as always). I just wanted to offer you my feedback (as requested). I observe that this forum has a wide range of opinions, and that the admins do a reasonable job of allowing all views to be represented while preventing abuse. Yes, some of the threads get nasty, but normally there is good reason for it - often someone trying to swim against the flow in a provocative manner. In fairness, a few of the worst posters have got away with endless wrecking of threads, and IMO should have by now been banned (Dune, Turkish etc). You mention 'euphoria'. This is not something that I can say I've noticed whatsoever on this forum; surprisingly so, seen as we are top of the league. In fact, I find this forum strangely pessimistic, considering the position we find the club in. I strongly believe that many 'normal' fans are put off by this endless pessimism, and I for one feel it is over-represented. As such, I have to find myself in almost complete disagrement with your opening post. BTW, Alps, you had a phase a few months back when I thought you were starting to improve the balance of your posts. I seem to even recall you being positive on a post-match thread. Sure the team haven't played well over the past 6 weeks or so, and while I feel it has made all of us less optimistic, it seems to have knocked you back into depressed mode. I do hope you can pull yourself out of it. Deep breaths, and look on the bright side. Chin up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 God Ive been there and done that. I can see the attraction of Dubai now It goes further than Dubai where my ex wife is. its called common brain syndrome Women whatever nationality race or creed all have 1 brain. But they only have a little piece each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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