pangy Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Flahing up now on SSN ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 As I understand it, it's totally up to the player where he ends up as Donny have no choice but to accept any bid that is equal to, or above the release fee in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 someone just tweeted LFC's bid was 1.85m, maybe that was the release clause figure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 someone just tweeted LFC's bid was 1.85m, maybe that was the release clause figure!! Seems to be some mixed messages over this. The Donny chairman said that it was £3m, yet talk sport and various other sources mention 1.8-£2m. Weird. Maybe they're paying that fee up front, with installments making up the 3m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 It's now down to us to match it which if we are interested then they will, problem is he wanted 20k (Saints top offer for him & he wants to join us over anyone BUT LCFC are rumoured to offer him 28k. No brainer so deal off the radar IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 He wants to join us? When did he say this? If that is the case and we bid for him, then he'll come here. Unless he values money over his personal choice of club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I would certainly like to see Saints talk to the player again. Find out a bit more about him and see if we convince him that its not all about money. Could we offer 20k now with a guaranteed extra IF we get promoted?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 He wants to join us? When did he say this? If that is the case and we bid for him, then he'll come here. Unless he values money over his personal choice of club. Welcome to the world of professional footballer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Yeah, i don't believe he ever wanted to come here. We wanted him - i have it on good authority that we were even granted permission to speak to the player in december. However, he didn't want to move all the way down to the south coast. Especially with everything that's happened in his personal life. Not surprised in the slightest that's he's going to Leicester. Closer to him than most of the other clubs after him, and they'll pay him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 He wants to join us? When did he say this? If that is the case and we bid for him, then he'll come here. Unless he values money over his personal choice of club. . .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I hope that's the end of us being linked with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 He wants to join us? When did he say this? If that is the case and we bid for him, then he'll come here. Unless he values money over his personal choice of club. Imagine he wants the same as Maynard - A big fat signing on fee that Nicola said no to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Sky now reporting fee to be £3 mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I remember ol arry agreeing a fee for Andy Reid!!! Means bugger all until player signs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Sky now reporting fee to be £3 mill The only winners there are Doncaster. Their owner isn't short of a bob or two, so you'd imagine they'll be spending most of that on new signings to stay up. I suppose Sheffield United will get a cut though, can't imagine given how long negotiations took to sell him that they didn't get a sell on clause in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I remember ol arry agreeing a fee for Andy Reid!!! Means bugger all until player signs! I bet it took alot of begging for Rupes to free up that £4m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I bet it took alot of begging for Rupes to free up that £4m! Think it was Dawson and Reid wasn't it? Same deal that took them to Spuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 The only winners there are Doncaster. Their owner isn't short of a bob or two, so you'd imagine they'll be spending most of that on new signings to stay up. I suppose Sheffield United will get a cut though, can't imagine given how long negotiations took to sell him that they didn't get a sell on clause in there somewhere. They're skint mate. Donny fans know that they will not see a penny of the money no matter what the fee is. The system they are utilizing at the moment (signing lots of high profile players and getting parent clubs to pay the % of the wages) is working for them. The agreement is that they put these players in the shop window and recoup a fee in 18months or so to help the club financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Think it was Dawson and Reid wasn't it? Same deal that took them to Spuds. I think we only went in for Reid, but Spurs came in with a £6m bid for the pair and that was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I think we only went in for Reid, but Spurs came in with a £6m bid for the pair and that was that. Those were the days. Not. Andy Reid, what a joke! They're skint mate. Donny fans know that they will not see a penny of the money no matter what the fee is. The system they are utilizing at the moment (signing lots of high profile players and getting parent clubs to pay the % of the wages) is working for them. The agreement is that they put these players in the shop window and recoup a fee in 18months or so to help the club financially. Yeah I heard about that, I didn't realise it was to generate some cash to keep them going though. Still, good for Donny. I really couldn't justify spending £3 million on Sharp and the £30k a week wages, as I've said before, I hope that's an end to any link we have with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Do we want him? Can we afford him? Does he want to move that far south? All questions I have no idea of the answer to. Leicester on big wages seems the most likely move. Not that disappointed, don't think he's top flight quality and surely that's what we want with any big signings? He will score against us though. think your second question is the relevant one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 There is one certain thing in all this because of agents this club and any other club in the auction know exactly what is happening. If he wants to come here and we want him it will happen but if there is anything we don't like, he will have to go somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Have to view this as one that got away, sadly. Would rather have gone for him than Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Reckon he would be a good player for us, a fox in the box and quick off the mark if not out and out pacey. Given his recent personal circumstances I can't see him coming down here. Playing at Leicester he'll be able to commute rather than relocate so would make sense to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Sorry has he actually signed yet for them? ......I know we had supposedly spoke to him a while back before his personal tragedy.nbut Southampton is not that bad a place to live. Like I said earlier I wold like to the that we would still want to talk to hm once more before he makes a decision. However I cod understand him choosing Leicester over us only fr the travelling. Nothing else. I think we wll be very competitive in the wages market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 **** Billy Sharp, we're signing a national hero. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoiOwuKEbWw&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 DONCASTER Rovers have accepted a bid from Leicester City for star striker Billy Sharp. Sharp has been given permission to discuss personal terms with the Foxes after their latest bid activated a clause in his contract. The 25-year-old was a spectator at the Keepmoat Stadium today, where he watched Doncaster lose 2-0 to League One Notts County in the FA Cup. His absence from the squad has intensified speculation that a deal with Leicester is imminent. But Sharp has yet to discuss terms with Leicester - who may still be gazumped in the race for his signature. Rovers have turned down bids of £3m and £2.3m in the past from Southampton and Ipswich respectively for Sharp. The Free Press understands that the fee that has been agreed between Rovers and Leicester falls short of both of the those figures. Sharp initially said he would only leave Rovers for a Premier League team - but said after the defeat at Watford he did not want to be playing "relegation football". John Ryan told the Free Press last week that Doncaster would struggle to hold onto their man if a Championship side with genuine promotion credentials came in with a suitable offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I quite like the phrase, may still be gazumped for his signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 IF we want him - now we'll show our hand. Would not be surprised if we made a bid and at least got the chance to speak to him again. Also, if 'Doncaster would struggle to hold onto their man if a Championship side with genuine promotion credentials came in with a suitable offer.' They must not be worried about losing him to Leicester! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Going by what bbc were reporting, I doubt we have anywhere near the interest in Sharp people either think or wish we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Going by what bbc were reporting, I doubt we have anywhere near the interest in Sharp people either think or wish we did. Well we clearly had an interest in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Going by what bbc were reporting, I doubt we have anywhere near the interest in Sharp people either think or wish we did. You can't read anything into it - other than Leicester made a bid. Doesn't mean we aren't interested/won't make a move now Leicester's bid is public. Even the Donny manager said he might wait for someone else to come in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Sharp deal completes on Monday apparently. For Leicester, obv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I can't see us going back in for Sharp, after the deal didn't happen in the summer. Cortese seems too stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 I can't see us going back in for Sharp, after the deal didn't happen in the summer. Cortese seems too stubborn. we dont know the ins and outs of our talks with him so would be silly to make assumptions at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Well, at least we now know who'll score the first goal when we play Leicester later this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Well we clearly had an interest in the summer. but he wanted a guaranteed place in the side, to live in Donny, £30k a week and £1.5m up front. OK so I have made all that up, but clearly his terms weren't to the liking of the manager and chairman, so they moved onto a different target in just the same way they would have done if Donny had demanded £10m. I for one am happy the club sees fit to turn down a player for their own specific reasons. Hopefully that means they are bringing in the right players with the right character on the right wage level. By and large they have so far. In the end do any of you really think we have missed out on a great player in Sharp? Personally the left field signings like Guly and Lee are far far more exciting, certainly in the short term. In Lee we may have unearthed an absolute gem, who knows, but I cant wait to find out. Lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Sharp deal completes on Monday apparently. For Leicester, obv. Hang on, I thought these things had to take weeks of negotiations up until the end of January ???? I actually dont think we are that interested in Sharp after what happened in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Hang on, I thought these things had to take weeks of negotiations up until the end of January ???? I actually dont think we are that interested in Sharp after what happened in the summer. Neither do I. I don't think we should be either. Not at those prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Money-bags Leicester City are ready to make Billy Sharp one of the Championship’s highest paid players with a deal that could earn him more than £5million over three-and-a-half years. The Foxes are set to snap up Doncaster hitman Sharp this month, hoping that he’ll shoot them into the Premier League as quickly as possible. If he succeeds he will hit the jackpot. Sharp, 25, has hit 10 goals for lowly Rovers this term, and averaged more than a goal every other game. If Rovers, as expected, accept City’s £3million offer, then Sharp will win a contract until June 2015, worth nearly £28,000 a week, and rising to nearer £40,000 a week in the Premier League.He will also be guaranteed a £200,000 signing-on fee. Sharp will be offered a Premiership retention bonus of £250,000, payable at the end of each season that top flight status is assured. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Leicester-City-chase-Doncaster-striker-Billy-Sharp-article850452.html For that money, they're welcome to him. Leicester fans on their forum are talking as though he's already signed. Crazy money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 Hang on, I thought these things had to take weeks of negotiations up until the end of January ???? if Leicester wanted him shouldn't they have sorted all this out way in advance of the window? What have they been playing at? Clearly poor planning and no decisiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 Money-bags Leicester City are ready to make Billy Sharp one of the Championship’s highest paid players with a deal that could earn him more than £5million over three-and-a-half years. The Foxes are set to snap up Doncaster hitman Sharp this month, hoping that he’ll shoot them into the Premier League as quickly as possible. If he succeeds he will hit the jackpot. Sharp, 25, has hit 10 goals for lowly Rovers this term, and averaged more than a goal every other game. If Rovers, as expected, accept City’s £3million offer, then Sharp will win a contract until June 2015, worth nearly £28,000 a week, and rising to nearer £40,000 a week in the Premier League.He will also be guaranteed a £200,000 signing-on fee. Sharp will be offered a Premiership retention bonus of £250,000, payable at the end of each season that top flight status is assured. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Leicester-City-chase-Doncaster-striker-Billy-Sharp-article850452.html For that money, they're welcome to him. Leicester fans on their forum are talking as though he's already signed. Crazy money though. Wonder if any of our players (Lallana perhaps) contracts are similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 if Leicester wanted him shouldn't they have sorted all this out way in advance of the window? What have they been playing at? Clearly poor planning and no decisiveness. Monday will still be a f**k of a lot sooner than we will complete anything. If we complete anything. I mean, what a totally outrageous idea to do work permit paper work before the transfer window opens. What a truly wacky idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 Think about your point. It's similar to one I think you, or similar poster, have made before, i.e. why aren't signings wrapped up to do unveiled in the first few days of the window. People say these things as if they're providing some great advice that no-one has ever thought of. I'd like to hear Adkins answer, I imagine he'd laugh and try not to be patronising. Deals just don't get done like that. You get angry about it, but there's two clubs in every deal, lawyers, paperwork and bids to be accepted before work permits get involved. What if the selling club want to see if further bids come in during the window from other clubs? Not saying that's the answer, but it's possible and no doubt happens in many cases. Fact is, we see most business done late in the window around the world. So what exactly is the reason that you think you know more than the majority of managers and chief execs out there? What is your strategy for getting deals done quickly? As we've all said many times, it would be just a lovely world to have all transfers wrapped up on July 1st and January 1st. So given that it doesn't happen for 99% of clubs, could you bring us up to speed on your strategy for doing so? Because if you can't, it seems it's merely the rant of a petulant child. Well that is just nonsense. Maybe this window is going a bit slow, but every summer half our rivals undertake serious strengthening even before we've come back to the office, scratching our arses, following the booze-up fortnights in Magaluf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 Well that is just nonsense. Maybe this window is going a bit slow, but every summer half our rivals undertake serious strengthening even before we've come back to the office, scratching our arses, following the booze-up fortnights in Magaluf. What makes their summers more successful than Saints'? Who is top, the other 23 Championship teams after their summer spending or Saints after their summer spending? And yes, that is a perfectly valid point as signings in the summer influence league position in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 What makes their summers more successful than Saints'? Who is top, the other 23 Championship teams after their summer spending or Saints after their summer spending? And yes, that is a perfectly valid point as signings in the summer influence league position in January. They also affect league positon after January. Maybe the reason we are going to plummet soon is because we have no squad depth, only 14 or so first team quality players, where as our rivals have deeper squads because of summer activity, and now we are getting jaded players, and picking up injuries and suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 (edited) They also affect league positon after January. Maybe the reason we are going to plummet soon is because we have no squad depth, only 14 or so first team quality players, where as our rivals have deeper squads because of summer activity, and now we are picking up injuries and suspensions. We have also now reached the transfer window in 1st place and the club is actively looking to improve the squad in order to maintain its league position. None of the other 23 clubs can say the same about what their summer spending has achieved for them. Edited 8 January, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 We have also now reached the transfer window in 1st place and the club is actively looking to improve the squad in order to maintain its league position. None of the other 23 clubs can say the same about what their summer spending has achieved for them. Maybe its too early to say that ! Maybe they got the sort of players in during the summer to contribute to squad depth that are not available in the tougher market conditions of January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 Monday will still be a f**k of a lot sooner than we will complete anything. If we complete anything. didn't we sign Jos on Jan 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 January, 2012 Share Posted 8 January, 2012 (edited) Maybe its too early to say that ! Maybe they got the sort of players in during the summer to contribute to squad depth that are not available in the tougher market conditions of January. Not too early to say at all. My point was only Saints can say their summer spending got them to top spot for when the January window opened and teams are allowed to spend and improve the squad again. All other 23 Championship teams failed to beat Saints to do this. In any case... - Jos Hooiveld on a permanent deal (his loan would have finished and he would have gone back in early Janaury) - Tadanari Lee deal complete bar work permit ...is a lot more than a large number of Championship sides have done in January so far. Edited 8 January, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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