NA Post match

[S-Clarke]

Just to clarify, Nigel said NO SUCH THING.

 

He said something along the lines of (if someone can quote exactly, that would be ideal) "we might make a loan signing, a small signing or maybe even a major signing, but we are working hard behind the scenes to get people in'.

 

His actually said..

 

''We might make a small signing, a loan signing but there's every chance we'll make a major signing. We want to make sure we make the best of the opportunity and get prompted to the premier league''

 

The main thing for me is how driven and motivated he is to make the best of the opertunity we are in. He doesn't want all our hard work in the first half of the season to go down the pan because we don't have the depth, he said he wants to add real quality to the team to make sure we are promoted. I think we're going for it to be honest.

 

Could be similar to the January window under Pardew a few years back, possibly not as many additions, but I reckon we'll see a signing that many don't expect.

Edited 7 January, 2012 by S-Clarke

[eurosaint]

I am still not convinced anyone is coming in except Lee. And that's pending the Home Office not f**king it up for us.

 

It's the 7th of January !

The manager has stated that we are intent on bringing in new players of quality !

Since Cortese has been here the squad has constantly been improved !

We are top of the league and an attractive proposition for ambitious footballers !

You take a lot of convincing ?

[Minty]

Thanks S-Clarke. Must admit, I didn't recall him saying 'But there's every chance' and I fully accept that makes it sound a lot more likely.

 

Doesn't actually change anything from my earlier point though. Hopefully we will improve the squad, which is ultimately what we all want.

[S-Clarke]

Thanks S-Clarke. Must admit, I didn't recall him saying 'But there's every chance' and I fully accept that makes it sound a lot more likely.

 

Doesn't actually change anything from my earlier point though. Hopefully we will improve the squad, which is ultimately what we all want.

 

Yeah, definitely said every chance which is why all our ears poked up at it....sounded like we're going to be pretty active whatever though.

[hypochondriac]

And without these signings in the Summer, we got off to a record breaking start to the season and roared to the top of the table and maintained that position through to the halfway stage of the season.

Of course. We have had a great start to the season, although the amazing start has been tempered slightly by our form over the last month or so. Perhaps an appropriate signing or loan would have allowed us to rest Lambert more or have an option to change the game from the bench. Even mid table form in the last month would have seen us well clear of the chasing pack but we have been pulled back. Although the management have done a great job, I would have liked to have seen us get one more attacking signing in the summer to get us over sticky patches like the one we have at the moment.

In most positions we have had that strength in depth, apart from perhaps one or two places and we have made it through to the January transfer window and can fine tune the squad to give us enough impetus to push on to automatic promotion in the second half of the season.

Lets hope that is the case. I think even those one or two places have cost us a few points recently (especially our reliance on Lambert leaving us quite predictable.) Look, I think we are doing a fantastic job with our resources, I'm just looking for areas of improvement and I think our recent form has showed a few weaknesses.

 

So we're short up front and have signed an International J League striker. Personally, I would have called that a big signing on the face of it.

I think it's a really good signing and one I have been supportive of since it was announced. My only concern would be how long he would take to settle in as I believe we need someone to make an impact as quickly as possible. If we sign an additional attacking option then this point becomes largely irrelevant. If we don't then I also think it's a bit unfair on Lee because he will have a lot of pressure on him to perform quickly. Signing someone else will help his transition IMO.

 

As the club's policy has generally been to keep quiet about signings until the player is unveiled as a done deal, I take this statement as a clear and unequivocal sign that there is something in the pipeline at the moment. IMO, the mention of a big signing will not have been suggested without there being some substance to the possibility. I don't feel that we are talking about these players from this division or the division below whose names have been bandied about; I wouldn't be surprised if we got in a surplus Premiership player, or somebody from a decent European top division team, the sort of signing that signalled serious intent.

Oh I am sure there is a possibility, I was just questioning how wise i was to announce something like signing a big name before we have done so (unless of course we have virtually signed whoever they are already then why not!)

[hypochondriac]

what is your definition of big...I should imagine its different from the clubs...so better start complaining now you bellend

 

No need for that. I would be perfectly happy with a proven and in-form NPC striker such as Billy Sharp who IMO has the best chance of making an immediate impact (that's not to say there are not a host of other players besides Billy who would fit the bill). I'm not complaining, I don't know what our transfer activity will be in this window and if we get in these players he is talking about then he can say what he likes I suppose.

[beavis17]

Reading between the lines I imagine that Holmes and Forte will be leaving and consequently we'll sign a winger and striker that will improve the squad further, plus Lee.

[hypochondriac]

Just to clarify, Nigel said NO SUCH THING.

 

He said something along the lines of (if someone can quote exactly, that would be ideal) "we might make a loan signing, a small signing or maybe even a major signing, but we are working hard behind the scenes to get people in'.

 

Yes apologies Minty, my mistake. That is what I meant. I think it is perhaps unwise to announce that there is every chance we will make a major signing before we do so.

Edited 7 January, 2012 by hypochondriac

[hypochondriac]

to be fair, the doomsayers on here would be moaning their nuts off if NA had said we werent in for anyone!! We are what we are, some will always be negative and some will relish the ride we are on!! Talking about negative doomsayers, where is the biggest of them all tonight!! It is relaxing and quiet!!

 

Oh I don't think there is anything wrong at all with saying we are in for players. I just question the wisdom of using phrases like 'major signing.' As in general that tends to build up an expectation in the fanbase which if we then do not make a major signing will lead to disappointment. As for me, I'm keeping my expectations quite low for this window but will be very pleased if we make an additional attacking signing other than Lee in this window.

[hypochondriac]

Reading between the lines I imagine that Holmes and Forte will be leaving and consequently we'll sign a winger and striker that will improve the squad further, plus Lee.

 

That would please me. Also possibly a CB because we are light at the back.

[Gingeletiss]

Trouble with Hypo, and some of the other WUM's on here, is that they bait their hooks, depending on what side they have taken today. Hypo moans when the club say nothing, now he's moaning because they have, his sole intention is reaction.

[Derekwright]

Reading between the lines I imagine that Holmes and Forte will be leaving and consequently we'll sign a winger and striker that will improve the squad further, plus Lee.

 

With the news re sharp and lcfc I think a loan move will be made for Beckford

[hypochondriac]

Not worth it.

[beavis17]

With the news re sharp and lcfc I think a loan move will be made for Beckford

 

Hope not, although in Nigel we trust!

[Derekwright]

Hope not, although in Nigel we trust!

 

I'm not a Beckford fan but I also don't want to he paying January window prices for players like jrod

If I could have two strikers Charle Austin bad Simon Cox please!

[Derekwright]

I'm not a Beckford fan but I also don't want to he paying January window prices for players like jrod

If I could have two strikers Charle Austin bad Simon Cox please!

 

And Simon cox

[alpine_saint]

''We might make a small signing, a loan signing but there's every chance we'll make a major signing. We want to make sure we make the best of the opportunity and get prompted to the premier league''

 

All sounds a bit up-in-the-air and a bit wishee-washee for me, like the targets are listed and maybe first sniff about has happened, but not much is biting.

 

Which means apart from Lee nothing might happen at all. Which would be a significant failure imo.

 

If doing business is so f**king hard in January, why didnt we do more last summer ?

 

Alright, I can conceed that NC got caught on the hop with our unexpected league success so far this season, but seeing as Year 3 of the 5 year plan will be over in the summer, if we dont get promoted this season, is it unreasonable to say there are NO EXCUSES for tardy transfer activity next summer ???

[hypochondriac]

All sounds a bit up-in-the-air and a bit wishee-washee for me, like the targets are listed and maybe first sniff about has happened, but not much is biting.

 

Which means apart from Lee nothing might happen at all. Which would be a significant failure imo.

 

If doing business is so f**king hard in January, why didnt we do more last summer ?

 

Alright, I can conceed that NC got caught on the hop with our unexpected league success so far this season, but seeing as Year 3 of the 5 year plan will be over in the summer, if we dont get promoted this season, is it unreasonable to say there are NO EXCUSES for tardy transfer activity next summer ???

 

What would you have expected him to say? I question his mentioning of major signings but I never expected him to mention definite targets or say what he was aiming for. Doing that leads to frustration and disappointment when those things do not materialise. Ultimately he won't be judged by a response in a post match interview but on the first of February when the window closes and then after that in May. If you listen to him he actually sounds quite determined to get some deals done. I hope that's the case!

[Minty]

All sounds a bit up-in-the-air and a bit wishee-washee for me, like the targets are listed and maybe first sniff about has happened, but not much is biting.

 

Which means apart from Lee nothing might happen at all. Which would be a significant failure imo.

 

If doing business is so f**king hard in January, why didnt we do more last summer ?

 

Alright, I can conceed that NC got caught on the hop with our unexpected league success so far this season, but seeing as Year 3 of the 5 year plan will be over in the summer, if we dont get promoted this season, is it unreasonable to say there are NO EXCUSES for tardy transfer activity next summer ???

Gotta agree with Hypo here alps... it seems you are seeking out any possible negative from what was quite a normal, typical, Adkins-style interview response. He never gives anything of substance away and frankly it seems like nothing he says is going to placate you except 'Here is our new signing, Lionel Messi'.

 

Simple fact of the matter are that:

 

a) Nige wants to sign players to consolidate our position and ensure promotion, and

b) We are working hard to do just that.

 

Nothing more, nothing less, and anything else that you or anyone else reads into it is purely your own interpretation.

[Wade Garrett]

His actually said..

 

''We might make a small signing, a loan signing but there's every chance we'll make a major signing. We want to make sure we make the best of the opportunity and get prompted to the premier league''

 

The main thing for me is how driven and motivated he is to make the best of the opertunity we are in. He doesn't want all our hard work in the first half of the season to go down the pan because we don't have the depth, he said he wants to add real quality to the team to make sure we are promoted. I think we're going for it to be honest.

 

Could be similar to the January window under Pardew a few years back, possibly not as many additions, but I reckon we'll see a signing that many don't expect.

Exactly what I thought after hearing the interview.

[Windmill Arm 2]

All sounds a bit up-in-the-air and a bit wishee-washee for me, like the targets are listed and maybe first sniff about has happened, but not much is biting.

 

Which means apart from Lee nothing might happen at all. Which would be a significant failure imo.

 

If doing business is so f**king hard in January, why didnt we do more last summer ?

 

Alright, I can conceed that NC got caught on the hop with our unexpected league success so far this season, but seeing as Year 3 of the 5 year plan will be over in the summer, if we dont get promoted this season, is it unreasonable to say there are NO EXCUSES for tardy transfer activity next summer ???

 

You remind me of an ex girlfriend of mine, she was a phucking needy ***** as well.

[Minty]

Me too, having listened back again, and it really mirrors my thoughts. There has been plenty of talk about 'back ups' for Lambert etc being signed, but actually it's all about signing better players, and even putting pressure on Lambert too if need be. We are in such a good position, lets get some real quality in to improve the squad and really go for it.

[kpturner]

I see he was well below the interviewer again - having to look upwards. When will he learn? F**king disgrace!!

Edited 7 January, 2012 by kpturner

[Windmill Arm 2]

Oh I don't think there is anything wrong at all with saying we are in for players. I just question the wisdom of using phrases like 'major signing.' As in general that tends to build up an expectation in the fanbase which if we then do not make a major signing will lead to disappointment. As for me, I'm keeping my expectations quite low for this window but will be very pleased if we make an additional attacking signing other than Lee in this window.

Might I suggest that if you are that easily dissapointed, that you man the phuk up and stop being such a big frigging Jessie !!

[Avenue Saint]

I have to admit the likes of hypo, alpine and a small number of others do inadvertently make one noticeable positive contribution on here, and that is they bring together a unity amongst the majority of other posters in addressing/answering their "points" and as a by product we all get behind our great club and it's management!

Edited 7 January, 2012 by Avenue Saint

[Avenue Saint]

Lol, up the Saints!

[kpturner]

If doing business is so f**king hard in January, why didnt we do more last summer ?

Damn right! If we had done the business in the summer we could have been top of the league by now ffs.

[View From The Top]

Please, nice people, stop quoting Alpine. Plenty of us have the cock on ignore.

[Saint_clark]

Most interesting thing for me was the fact that we lacked width due to Lallanas lack of discipline - perhaps people will stop slating Adkins for it now?

[alpine_saint]

Please, nice people, stop quoting Alpine. Plenty of us have the cock on ignore.

 

Will someone be so kind to quote this so that VFTT gets to see it ?

 

Why dont you cease and desist from this foul incessant whine of yours on EVERY match day ????

[Wade Garrett]

Will someone be so kind to quote this so that VFTT gets to see it ?

 

Why dont you cease and desist from this foul incessant whine of yours on EVERY match day ????

 

Pot,kettle....

[alpine_saint]

Pot,kettle....

 

Well, thanks anyway..

 

[Minty]

Will someone be so kind to quote this so that VFTT gets to see it ?

 

Why dont you cease and desist from this foul incessant whine of yours on EVERY match day ????

How about we ALL get back to the point of the thread?

 

Most interesting thing for me was the fact that we lacked width due to Lallanas lack of discipline - perhaps people will stop slating Adkins for it now?

I've not heard Adkins say so much (as little as it was) about tactics and half time, in any interview ever. It should be obvious to most fans that sometimes it might not be the tactics that aren't working, but the players, but seemingly the Manager always takes the flak and it's rarely even considered that a player may not have played as he had been asked, and so this was indeed an interesting point that Adkins made.

 

Overall, even when we don't play well, I've always felt that Adkins has, or can, identify why that was the case, and hence my faith in him remains unwavering. If that were to ever change I might worry. I would really love to hear what he says in the changing room and in training because I sense there is a fantastic tactical brain at work in there (perhaps sometimes he overthinks things, but I'd rather that than the alternative).

[alpine_saint]

How about we ALL get back to the point of the thread?

 

 

I've not heard Adkins say so much (as little as it was) about tactics and half time, in any interview ever. It should be obvious to most fans that sometimes it might not be the tactics that aren't working, but the players, but seemingly the Manager always takes the flak and it's rarely even considered that a player may not have played as he had been asked, and so this was indeed an interesting point that Adkins made.

 

Overall, even when we don't play well, I've always felt that Adkins has, or can, identify why that was the case, and hence my faith in him remains unwavering. If that were to ever change I might worry. I would really love to hear what he says in the changing room and in training because I sense there is a fantastic tactical brain at work in there (perhaps sometimes he overthinks things, but I'd rather that than the alternative).

 

And your opinion on waving the white flag at Brighton when he made that double substitution ??? What was he thinking there ?

[View From The Top]

It's because, Thrush, you are a complete and utter WUM cock and by other people quoting you I see the pathetic sh it you post you obese pr ick.

 

Clear enough?

[derry]

Well, you'll have to trust me. It was like signing Messi, Ronaldo or Rooney. And yes, just as you're thinking 'don't be ridiculous', that's what I said to my mum when I got home from school and she told me we'd signed Kevin Keegan...!

 

It's true.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

And your opinion on waving the white flag at Brighton when he made that double substitution ??? What was he thinking there ?

 

And who would you have brought on? Obviously having been there and seen how we were playing you would have known exactly what we needed.

[Minty]

And your opinion on waving the white flag at Brighton when he made that double substitution ??? What was he thinking there ?

I don't know, I can't read minds. He obviously had an idea.

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Under the circumstances, I'm not sure what would've worked, but given we were down to 10 men, the odds were always against us. I'm not making excuses, nothing worked and part of that may well be down to Adkins, but if your criteria for judging a manager are 'Has he ever got something wrong?' then you're never going to be happy.

[Viking Warrior]

Im sure we will be bringing some folk in to the squad . We can debate the whys and wherefores on the merits of potential signings until the cows come home . But Nigel and nicola know who they want . They know what is needed to compliment the squad . Oh please stopping quoting the troll . Ps alpine can you stop using f****ng in your posts it's not clever and makes you out to be a bigger cock than I thought you already were

[alpine_saint]

Im sure we will be bringing some folk in to the squad . We can debate the whys and wherefores on the merits of potential signings until the cows come home . But Nigel and nicola know who they want . They know what is needed to compliment the squad . Oh please stopping quoting the troll . Ps alpine can you stop using f****ng in your posts it's not clever and makes you out to be a bigger cock than I thought you already were

 

LOL at the sheer hypocrisy of you lecturing others about use of swear words.

[shurlock]

Please, nice people, stop quoting Alpine. Plenty of us have the cock on ignore.

 

In all fairness, anyone who quotes alpine probably deserves to go on ignore as well.

[paulwantsapint]

We have already made signed 2 quality cbs in last few weeks with jos & Jose & depending on work permit we have international striker in lee

Does anyone know coventrys official reason for not playing luk jut what are the chances that NC & NA have said that we will bring him home & announce the signing on mon

[shurlock]

We have already made signed 2 quality cbs in last few weeks with jos & Jose & depending on work permit we have international striker in lee

Does anyone know coventrys official reason for not playing luk jut what are the chances that NC & NA have said that we will bring him home & announce the signing on mon

 

Injured isn't he?

[Scudamore]

Well done to the usual weirdos trying to bring the mood down. That was a very encouraging interview. I encourage people to actually listen to it via the link on page one instead of reading this tosh.

[alpine_saint]

Well done to the usual weirdos trying to bring the mood down. That was a very encouraging interview. I encourage people to actually listen to it via the link on page one instead of reading this tosh.

 

Yes, because saying you are "not convinced" really deserves the epithet of "weirdo trying to bring the mood down", doesnt it ?

[Dr Who?]

Damn right! If we had done the business in the summer we could have been top of the league by now ffs.

I do think that we have done things the right way. Keep the majority of the team who did so well last season, and see how it goes up until January transfer window.

 

Ok now it HAS gone pretty flipping well, I think we can all agree. Yes there are signs that things are not what they were between August and the end of November, but we are top, and in a much better position than what I/we thought we would be. We could have bought lots of new players in and be mid table. Look at leicester!!!

 

We have done the right thing. We can now strengthen by buying players in the areas were we have been weak over the last month. Tighten up and hopefully get things back together.

 

ONLY time will tell, if we have done things the right way, if we go up at the end of the season........please can we ALL be happy? I doubt it!

 

COYR!!!

[alpine_saint]

I do think that we have done things the right way. Keep the majority of the team who did so well last season, and see how it goes up until January transfer window.

 

Ok now it HAS gone pretty flipping well, I think we can all agree. Yes there are signs that things are not what they were between August and the end of November, but we are top, and in a much better position than what I/we thought we would be. We could have bought lots of new players in and be mid table. Look at leicester!!!

 

We have done the right thing. We can now strengthen by buying players in the areas were we have been weak over the last month. Tighten up and hopefully get things back together.

 

ONLY time will tell, if we have done things the right way, if we go up at the end of the season........please can we ALL be happy? I doubt it!

 

COYR!!!

 

Sounds so bloody reasonable when u put it like that.

 

All I know is that the current squad wont keep us top.

 

So lets see what new players this month brings.

 

As has been painfully apparent, I am impatient.

[Scudamore]

Yes, because saying you are "not convinced" really deserves the epithet of "weirdo trying to bring the mood down", doesnt it ?

 

Why would you assume I was talking about you? Very self conscious. Oh and you said a few more things than that now didn't you? Still I think it's important that threads like this become more about the original message than petty point scoring from the usual suspects (once again...no names named) which nobody actually wants to wade through...

[SaintBobby]

And your opinion on waving the white flag at Brighton when he made that double substitution ??? What was he thinking there ?

 

I agree.

 

I think Adkins is now on probation.

 

Anything less than 4 wins from the next 5 games and he needs to be shown the door like Burley (should have been).

 

It's all been rather disappointing recently and the guy hardly seems to put a foot right.

 

The track record isn't much to crow about either.

 

Our present relegation form is likely to be the norm from now on.

 

It's time to begin to think about changing the manager....

[dubai_phil]

Sounds so bloody reasonable when u put it like that.

 

All I know is that the current squad wont keep us top.

 

So lets see what new players this month brings.

 

As has been painfully apparent, I am iNpatient.

 

There, that reads more accurately

 

The current squad won't keep us top - correct it is too small

 

So maybe somebody is doing something about it. Now how would we find out?

 

Oh yeas, listen to the interview.

 

Convinced we will not bring someone in? Then you are accusing Adkins of lying

 

Annoyed it is taking so long? Obviously has never experienced a transfer window before, how many times have we signed 3 players in the first week of ANY window?

 

How many times have we sold Lambert & Lallana this week to clubs who want them?

 

How many times in the past did we lay down to have our tummy's tickled WITH THE FIRST PHONE CALL when "bigger clubs" came knocking for our players? Not one. Sure they went EVENTUALLY but it almost always took a small thing called - Negotiation.

Edited 8 January, 2012 by dubai_phil