st_tommy Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Not that I would take too much store by what Redknapp says this interview with Robert Peston http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16357044 does make interesting reading. If what he says is true and I suspect it is what chance does any team have of breaking into the top 6 (assuming we do go up at some point) without spending as much as the Man Us and Man Citys of this world. Wonder if Nicola took this into account when saying that CL is the club's goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Cortese is talking through his backside about Saints and the CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Cortese is talking through his backside about Saints and the CL Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Why? because it will take an astronomical amount of money to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 because it will take an astronomical amount of money to do so Oh right. And we are skint ain't we...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Oh right. And we are skint ain't we...? right..you really think we will shell out £100m+ in transfer fees do you..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 right..you really think we will shell out £100m+ in transfer fees do you..? I asked you a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I asked you a question. don't think we are...not too sure why that is relevant in spending £100m.....I don't think stoke are skint but they day they finish at least 4th is the day we all support pompey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 tbf I know it is a long shot from where we currently sit, but looking at ex youth players and ex players who have gone on and played in the champions league (Bale, Bridge, Walcott, Chambo, Crouch) What if we kept these types of players over the next 5 years instead of selling them like we have done in the past. Who says we would have to spend £100+ to get into the top 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 right..you really think we will shell out £100m+ in transfer fees do you..? Didn't someone post recently that Markus bequeathed a c.£300m Premier League investment 'war chest' to Southampton FC? I can't remember who posted that or if indeed I imagined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 tbf I know it is a long shot from where we currently sit, but looking at ex youth players and ex players who have gone on and played in the champions league (Bale, Bridge, Walcott, Chambo, Crouch) What if we kept these types of players over the next 5 years instead of selling them like we have done in the past. Who says we would have to spend £100+ to get into the top 6? top 6 is not CL is it.... we would still lose the odd star even if in the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 don't think we are...not too sure why that is relevant in spending £100m.....I don't think stoke are skint but they day they finish at least 4th is the day we all support pompey If Cortese says the clubs ambition is to be in the Champions League, and we are owned by a family who's estate is worth Billions... Who the f*** are we to question them ambitions? Just because we are not throwing money down the drain at every opportunity, doesn't mean we don't have the money to get us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Oh right. And we are skint ain't we...? Actually I think it's fair to say we have no idea what the club has these days.... maybe there is a spare 100 million just waiting for a CL push..........then again maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 If Cortese says the clubs ambition is to be in the Champions League, and we are owned by a family who's estate is worth Billions... Who the f*** are we to question them ambitions? Just because we are not throwing money down the drain at every opportunity, doesn't mean we don't have the money to get us there. well, we shall see......I just don't think we will do it..or why not just buy the league this season....it won't cost a great deal really considering the money recouped for just finishing 20th in the prem next season..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 tbf I know it is a long shot from where we currently sit, but looking at ex youth players and ex players who have gone on and played in the champions league (Bale, Bridge, Walcott, Chambo, Crouch) What if we kept these types of players over the next 5 years instead of selling them like we have done in the past. Who says we would have to spend £100+ to get into the top 6? That, it seems to me, is the overall plan... Easier said than done mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 well, we shall see......I just don't think we will do it..or why not just buy the league this season....it won't cost a great deal really considering the money recouped for just finishing 20th in the prem next season..? Look at Leicester. Then look at us. Then do so again. Then again. Then again. By then it should have sunk in that you cannot just buy anything in football. You have to build it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Look at Leicester. Then look at us. Then do so again. Then again. Then again. By then it should have sunk in that you cannot just buy anything in football. You have to build it. but we are not leicester..we do not have sven, we do not have pearson..we have adkins...would you not trust adkins to buy better players..? so, how are we going to get top 4 in the prem when we are not going to throw cash around...? it simply will not happen...spurs have broken into it..ONCE and they have a massively expensive squad, spend massive money and have a massive wage bill and are funded heavily buy a man with very deep pockets in doing so....they have got 4th...ONCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I knew someone would comment on that! The original post mentioned breaking into the top 6! I just mentioned that ex players have gone on to play in the champions league, it would have taken longer to mention ex players who have finished in the top six or even played in Europa league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 If you think we will hold onto all out young players when we get to the Premier League then you are suffering from delusion. As soon as one of the big 6 wants one of our stars then they will be off. Our potential is a top 8 club if we invest heavily but moving into the top 4 or even 6 would be very difficult. Just look how hard Spurs have found it despite having an advantage of being in London and investing very heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 It's not impossible, but anyone who thinks there is a reasonable chance we'll make it to the CL will be sorely disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 What you on about? It's entirely possible to do it without spending hundred of millions. All you need is a good academy and a decent manager, the rest just slots into place. An apart from all that, didn't they once day man would never climb Everest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I think there's a good chance that in the next 10 years a club other than the current top 6 will get into the champion's league. well, lets see out ambition the transfer window....being top when the window opens suggests that we will be very VERY fortunate to have a better chance of going up.....just need to cement that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 What you on about? It's entirely possible to do it without spending hundred of millions. All you need is a good academy and a decent manager, the rest just slots into place. An apart from all that, didn't they once day man would never climb Everest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I think there's a good chance that in the next 10 years a club other than the current top 6 will get into the champion's league. It's possible. Everton did it. Once. Didn't and doesn't make them a Champion's League club. Southampton won't be and we shouldn't be even thinking about it. An utterly pointless and potentially corrosive ambition, and I seriously doubt the club are in any way even considering it. I personally have no interest in Saints being a CL level club. None. But everyone on here is free have their own dreams and aspirations, but don't turn them into expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Let's just make it to the Premiership first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_tommy Posted 4 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I agree getting into the Premier League this season would be a real achievement but I wouldn't want to go up and struggle like we did for all those years at the Dell. CL? Not really necessary and possibly a little over ambitious but comfortable and in the Europa and a shout at the occasional domestic cup would be most suitable IMO. We need to spend now though to cement our promo prospects as this oppo may not come round again for some time so let's see just what this window brings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 The CL claim was made whilst Markus was alive. Is the aim still the same since his death? Personally I always thought it was ********, but as has been said Everton did it, so no reason why a side from outside the normal top 6 could not do it given the right circumstances - mostly that several of the top 6 have their own troubles all at the same time. We're such a long way from even getting promotion, so its hardly worth talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 the prem top 3 could change drastically if financial fair play rules come into play, we are potentially in a fantastic position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 the prem top 3 could change drastically if financial fair play rules come into play, we are potentially in a fantastic position. An excellent point well made. Even so, I think there are too many pessimists on this forum who just cannot visualise what might be possible with the right management and resources. They probably are happy sitting in their mediocre little worlds not daring to dream of better things. Believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Didn't Everton do it a while ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I think there's a good chance that in the next 10 years a club other than the current top 6 will get into the champion's league. Imho, there will be no Champions league in ten years time, not in it's current form anyway. There will be a break away European league,, to which the money bags clubs will join, this will leave a more competetive PL, but not as rich. Again, imo, we will sit pretty in said league, with a very competetive squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Everton did it a few years ago. Yes they did & so did Blackburn Rovers. They're a bit sh*t nowadays though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 the prem top 3 could change drastically if financial fair play rules come into play, we are potentially in a fantastic position. Dont be mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Imho, there will be no Champions league in ten years time, not in it's current form anyway. There will be a break away European league,, to which the money bags clubs will join, this will leave a more competetive PL, but not as rich. Again, imo, we will sit pretty in said league, with a very competetive squad. people have been saying this for years.........there will never be a break away league in the mid to near future what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 people have been saying this for years.........there will never be a break away league in the mid to near future what so ever Is that just your opinion, or another nailed on DD fact!.....I did stress that it was my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Didn't someone post recently that Markus bequeathed a c.£300m Premier League investment 'war chest' to Southampton FC? I can't remember who posted that or if indeed I imagined it. Whether it was posted or not, it doesn't mean it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Look at Leicester. Then look at us. Then do so again. Then again. Then again. By then it should have sunk in that you cannot just buy anything in football. You have to build it. Yes because Chelsea and Man City have done it all on a shoe string. If you want to progress you have to spend ..look at Spurs and how much they have spent to get to where they are now. Its all irrelevant anyway as we are miles away from promotion and the last 7 games have shown we do not have a squad capable of getting us there. Unless Cortese gets in the players required I cannot see us getting into Prem let alone CL. We bought the best in League One, we cannot go and get cheap options in CCC so this month is crucial and will show the chairmans and the clubs real ambitions and financial status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Yes because Chelsea and Man City have done it all on a shoe string. If you want to progress you have to spend ..look at Spurs and how much they have spent to get to where they are now. Its all irrelevant anyway as we are miles away from promotion and the last 7 games have shown we do not have a squad capable of getting us there. Unless Cortese gets in the players required I cannot see us getting into Prem let alone CL. We bought the best in League One, we cannot go and get cheap options in CCC so this month is crucial and will show the chairmans and the clubs real ambitions and financial status. I quite agree. IMO it is worth getting in some proven NPC quality in at least a couple of signings this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Whether it was posted or not, it doesn't mean it's true. There is a shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 An excellent point well made. Even so, I think there are too many pessimists on this forum who just cannot visualise what might be possible with the right management and resources. They probably are happy sitting in their mediocre little worlds not daring to dream of better things. Believe! Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Cortese is talking through his backside about Saints and the CL I think it all got a bit lost in translation and Cortese was talking about The Championship League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 If you think we will hold onto all out young players when we get to the Premier League then you are suffering from delusion. As soon as one of the big 6 wants one of our stars then they will be off. Our potential is a top 8 club if we invest heavily but moving into the top 4 or even 6 would be very difficult. Just look how hard Spurs have found it despite having an advantage of being in London and investing very heavily. Newcastle are 7th, have been higher than that, sold their best player (apparently) and were in the Championship not so long ago. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 (edited) So we now know Jakob Friis-Hansen actually joined Saints. http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Friis-Hansen-stoppet-i-Southampton Looking back to the original article his comments remain interesting... "The club is owned by the Liebherr family. They are incredibly rich and are aware that it will cost money. On short terms the goal is Premier League, but on the longer term they also want to play in the Champions League and be part of the top clubs in England. With their fortune backing them up they are about the fifth richest club in England, so it is realistic and there is a willingness to expand the academy, the facilities and the stadium if necessary." http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Friis-Hansen-skal-hjaelpe-Saints-i-PrL Edited 5 January, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 It's great to have dreams, but also to stay realistic & enjoy the moment, been a great time to be an sfc fan over the last 3 years, it's great being top of the league at the moment, if we end up the season in the top 6 it's still been a great season, just enjoy the ride, to me champions league is way beyond our dreams for the forseeable future, if you seek unrealistic aims you will never be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 SFC are like any other company, they can with the right leadership, ambition, investment etc. and an element of luck grow and expand into a world leader. There are many ifs and buts in this. Hate to say this but, look at Spurs, they are riding high in the PL and not one of the big 3, it is possible. But money, the right man/woman at the helm, ambition and a dollop of luck could see any club see success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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