Roger Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Given the strength of our bench today do u think we should give him Another chance?
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I'd be surprised if he ever plays for us again.
eharty9 Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 as much as i dont think he should play he should play
Saint Garrett Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Play him at Coventry...pop him in the shop window..
sandwichsaint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Puncheon? Was never as bad as some on here make out, proved when he went on to DAdecentJF Millwall and Blackpool. Clearly good enough to play for us but I'm not sure that second chances are the NC/NA way of doing things? I'd have him back now for the rest of the season but not sure the powers that be will see it that way; once a bad apple, always a bad apple etc.
Griffo Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 To be fair I still think he could be a very important player for us. Shame his attitude is sh*t.
LostBoys Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I do not think he should play for us BUT the bench today was horrifying in terms of how weak it was. Forte to replace whoever - sorry but a bit scary even in the local leagues.
1976_Child Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 well, hands up who thought Forte would ever play a league game again.... If the other lads can put past disagreements with Puncheon behind them, and Puncheon himself can deflate his ego just a touch then he might just be what we need. QPR didn't play him, despite all the last minute sprinting into Loftus Road at the last minute before the window closed... But he can play football. That is proven. What is not proven is his ability to bond with his team-mates. To sum, he has premiership quality but kindergarten attitude. Maybe our Nige can spank him awake to do a job for us.
alpine_saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I dont see that NA has much choice but to bury the hatchet with him for a while.
corky morris Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 He played him in the cup last year - I think he will do it again!!
alpine_saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 If Puncheon were to set aside his ego and step up to the plate to make a critical contribution to rescuing our season, he would be rapidly transformed into a hero and would find that sense of belonging that seems to elude him. Its a big ask, but I wonder if he realises what a golden opporunity lays before him.
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I guarantee you all it would take was one game of mis-hit crosses, skied shots and running himself into a corner before we go through this whole cycle again. Get rid of him, get someone else in.
alpine_saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I guarantee you all it would take was one game of mis-hit crosses, skied shots and running himself into a corner before we go through this whole cycle again. Get rid of him, get someone else in. No f**ker wants him, there is no harm in putting him into the Coventry game and seeing if he can apply himself.
Turkish Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 We are yet to see the best of Jonno Quick, just like last time he was needed i full expect him to step in and do the business. We are lucky to have a bench and squad where a player of his ability is only a squad player.
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 No f**ker wants him, there is no harm in putting him into the Coventry game and seeing if he can apply himself. That's what I mean - even if he does well, the second he does anything wrong people will be on his back again and he'll throw in the towel.
adrian lord Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 He was excellent in the away match at Norwich last season when we bossed them off the park and won at a canter. If he could replicate that performance every week I would have him back in an instant.
saint-ross Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Puncheon is not the answer. There's a reason he didnt settle here and the fans got on his back - He was consistently playing badly and was a total liability. Why would this be any different now?
alpine_saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Puncheon is not the answer. There's a reason he didnt settle here and the fans got on his back - He was consistently playing badly and was a total liability. Why would this be any different now? I agree, he is no long-term answer without a major personality adjustment/frontal lobotomy , but considering Lambert is banned, Goolie is injured and our bench yesterday was already doing a remarkable impression of Old Mother Hubbard's cupboard, we arent exactly stuck for choice in the short term ( until this feat of transfer market legerdemain that NA is alluding to materialises, which could be April 2013 for all we know)
derry Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 If we aren't going to keep him don't cup tie him.
a1ex2001 Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 He was consistently playing badly and was a total liability. I don't seem to remember this I certainly don't remember him being any more of a liability than Guly is on occasion. I'd give him a start against Coventry and have a quiet word with him before hand along the lines of 'make it impossble for me not to put you in the squad for the next match' see how much he wants it and if he does then he should at least be on the bench he is proven at this level unlike Jonno Quick and the kids.
Mowgli Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Hey I'm a Puncheon fan but even I would not play him. Not because of the bust up but simply that he has not played a competitive game for a long long time. On that basis I would sooner see one of the youngsters given a chance.
alpine_saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Ok, let's wait for these mystical signings to turn up before we do anything to address the teams shortcomings.
thorpie the sinner Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Anyone know if he is training with first team today?
stevegrant Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 As has been mentioned, it's unlikely that Puncheon is a long-term option for whatever reason, but given the injury and suspension situation we now find ourselves in, we'd be cutting our nose off to spite our face to not use him in the next couple of weeks, even if it's just from the bench. He can put himself in the shop window with some good performances, and perhaps those good performances might lead him to actually stay here after all... either way, I don't see what we've got to lose, really.
barney_b64 Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 He's just been tweeting a bit, saying his loan finished today, he is back to southampton on thursday and has no idea what his position in the squad will be until he walks back into staplewood.
the wedge Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 If he's had a change of attitude, been humbled by his lack of recent football, and is willing to work his absolute arse off in whatever department of training NA puts him in to prove he wants to play, then I'll have him back. That's what I'd say to him anyway.
Pamplemousse Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 jasonpunchJason Puncheon This game is crazy one min ur the worst thing since the plaque then the next ur needed an begged to come back #wierdworld Interesting comment there from Jason...
Gemmel Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 jasonpunchJason Puncheon This game is crazy one min ur the worst thing since the plaque then the next ur needed an begged to come back #wierdworld Interesting comment there from Jason... He doesnt help himself does he.. We wont be begging you to come back.... you are contractually bound to.
shurlock Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 jasonpunchJason Puncheon This game is crazy one min ur the worst thing since the plaque then the next ur needed an begged to come back #wierdworld Interesting comment there from Jason... Absolute knobber.
Chris Marsden = Genius Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 jasonpunchJason Puncheon This game is crazy one min ur the worst thing since the plaque then the next ur needed an begged to come back #wierdworld Interesting comment there from Jason... He'll be talking about the fans that stalk him on twitter rather than the club
adrian lord Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I ve got a sneaking feeling he could do a great job for Saints between now and May.
alpine_saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 jasonpunchJason Puncheon This game is crazy one min ur the worst thing since the plaque then the next ur needed an begged to come back #wierdworld Interesting comment there from Jason... Ah, forget it then. A lack of play clearly hasnt humbled him. F**k him.
Saints67 Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Ah, forget it then. A lack of play clearly hasnt humbled him. F**k him. You are assuming he is tweeting about the Saints management set up begging him to come back whereas it is just as likely (or more likely imo) that it is several people on twitter who have been giving him grief and now changed their tune
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 his tweets sum up his attitude. corky, sdr, lallana, chappers and jos all get abuse as well (goes with the territory) but they either ignore it or respond in dignified way. he RT's everything even a tweet from someone sticking up for him and telling him to stuff saints.
shurlock Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 You are assuming he is tweeting about the Saints management set up begging him to come back whereas it is just as likely (or more likely imo) that it is several people on twitter who have been giving him grief and now changed their tune Fair enough, a better explanation for things. No mean feat but have found saints fans in the real world and on other sites (not referring to the UI, though they've got their own issues) to be more deluded than the lot on saintsweb.
scotty Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I guarantee you all it would take was one game of mis-hit crosses, skied shots and running himself into a corner before we go through this whole cycle again. Get rid of him, get someone else in. This.
david in sweden Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 (edited) I'm afraid that this talented footballer - who has an attitude I don't like - has been boycotted (sorry wrong sport) by the management, who also don't like the "said attitude " ..but the fact remains..unless we are forced to take the dubious step of dipping into the Academy for extra resources for the next few weeks....we'll have no "back-up " at all. Forget the ego bit, and the previous " misunderstandings "..I say bury the hatchet and play the man, and put the club FIRST ! I have the deepest respect for Nicola Cortese, his professionalism and the way he handles things, but this is not the bank world..it's the real world and all should understand that in the heat of the moment.. a fukc here and there in the conversation is not necesarily a sign of disloyalty ...but anger ! JP is an employee of SFC, gets paid the same as others...for doing nothing!...(as far as I can see)....PLAY HIM and see what happens. It could hardly be worse. If he plays well, he'll be " in demand and in the shop window" ...who knows - we might actually decide to keep him a bit longer ... P.S. Just seen a contribution above from Steve Grant, who said much the same - wasn't copying you SG -didn't see the earlier post. Edited 3 January, 2012 by david in sweden
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 He has now tweeted "in football people always question players for there loyalty to clubs....maybe we as players should question the loyalty shown towards us" Perhaps he still has a chip then ??
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Just forget him, he has serious issues quite clearly. Never settled anywhere and cannot stop moving around. He has talent and that's why some fans want him back, but he's destined to be a journeyman footballer in the lower leagues.
david in sweden Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 He has now tweeted "in football people always question players for there loyalty to clubs....maybe we as players should question the loyalty shown towards us" Perhaps he still has a chip then ?? What the fukc (!) ..Does he want to play football - or doesn't he ? Forget it - move on ! The club is the employer, and NP is getting paid for NOT doing what we bought him for.. surely there must be a sensible solution here for everyone concerned. How many more games of football do we have to lose whilst all these various people massage their ego's? .and NO , (JP) ..you won't get a guaranteed place either. Hardly anyone has in this club (thats L1 talk)... We're still looking at promotion, and in the Premiership, players like Carroll, Torres and Rooney sit on the bench until they're told to play - Get used to the idea NOW... or drop a Division and be a big fish in a duck pond, instead.
Secret Site Agent Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Is he back yet? Puncheon is back today. I would much rather we used him in a deal for Billy Sharp, or a n other plus some cash.
SW11_Saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Down to the bare bones, I'd play him. Did okay against Blackpool last year. An if he doe play, give him a break...
Norm Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I'm afraid that this talented footballer - who has an attitude I don't like - has been boycotted (sorry wrong sport) by the management, who also don't like the "said attitude " ..but the fact remains..unless we are forced to take the dubious step of dipping into the Academy for extra resources for the next few weeks....we'll have no "back-up " at all. Forget the ego bit, and the previous " misunderstandings "..I say bury the hatchet and play the man, and put the club FIRST ! I have the deepest respect for Nicola Cortese, his professionalism and the way he handles things, but this is not the bank world..it's the real world and all should understand that in the heat of the moment.. a fukc here and there in the conversation is not necesarily a sign of disloyalty ...but anger ! JP is an employee of SFC, gets paid the same as others...for doing nothing!...(as far as I can see)....PLAY HIM and see what happens. It could hardly be worse. If he plays well, he'll be " in demand and in the shop window" ...who knows - we might actually decide to keep him a bit longer ... P.S. Just seen a contribution above from Steve Grant, who said much the same - wasn't copying you SG -didn't see the earlier post. In reply to d-in-s (I have not read Grantys post), David whilst I agree with you about playing JP, we Saints fans are a real fickle bunch! I think there is a whole bunch of truth in the post from Saint_clark. JP would be on the pitch less than 15 minutes and the boos would be ringing out from all over SMS. It seems we (?) are an unforgiving set of fans.
aintforever Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 I think we should just trust Adkins re: his attitude. None of us on here has the faintest clue what went on last time and what his attitude is now, you can't read anything into twitter FFS.
Saint Garrett Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 Thought that he'd be worth giving a second chance, but after today he clearly hasn't got over his attitude problems...good riddance.
david in sweden Posted 3 January, 2012 Posted 3 January, 2012 In reply to d-in-s (I have not read Grantys post), David whilst I agree with you about playing JP, we Saints fans are a real fickle bunch! I think there is a whole bunch of truth in the post from Saint_clark. JP would be on the pitch less than 15 minutes and the boos would be ringing out from all over SMS. It seems we (?) are an unforgiving set of fans.[/QUOTE] Oh, I realise that Norm, (sadly) I just wonder what reactions might be if - we are forced to use him - (away at Coventry first) - and he actually does play well, or even score ?
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