Micky Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Or what? sack him!...then go back to the days of three managers a season...ffs, some of our fans, they're beyond words! You is very good at writing things that other people did not say. I said none of the things that you have in your one line response - none. Go on - tell me why I am beyond words - I'm intriqued. Or, you could go and read some of my other posts where I explain my reasoning and express my continued support for NA. Whatever though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Adkins can only pick the players he has in the squad, and until this week, that was fixed so I can't see that he is at fault for the poor results that the team have been turning in for the past 6 or 7 weeks. If there was a failing, it was not anticipating that better players would be needed to cover for injuries and suspensions as the season went on, but that may be down to the chairman, not the manager. When results started to go wrong, it takes few weeks to discover if its a blip, or something more fundamental, but the good luck is that we have the window open now and the club can do something about it. It would be madness not to grasp the promotion chance that has been built up over the first half of the season but it won't be achieved by complacency. The quality of the signings that are made and how many, will tell us how serious the club are to get into the Prem and stay there. It takes a few weeks to realise that whening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 geoffnut didn't say that. This is exactly what he said: I don't understand why people have to misrepresent what others have said in order to make their own point - especially when they're actually saying something quite similar. He is saying that he talks a good talk and has proven nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Are you for real!? So your with Geoff in that Nigel Adkins has done nothing to prove himself this far and thus is where he shows what he is made of!? You moron! He hasn't had to show what he is like in times like this because he has been so on top that he hasn't had to! Yes, we're in a sticky patch, yes we need to sort it, but to say that Adkins needs to prove himself... I'm beyond words. I am for real. Yet another poster who wants to comment on what I have not said. I did not say: NA has done nothing to prove himself so far. In fact reading your post, I did not say any of the things that you say I did. But I remain the moron allegedley. Thanks for replying to my post though, and quoting what I didn't say. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Adkins can only pick the players he has in the squad, and until this week, that was fixed so I can't see that he is at fault for the poor results that the team have been turning in for the past 6 or 7 weeks. If there was a failing, it was not anticipating that better players would be needed to cover for injuries and suspensions as the season went on, but that may be down to the chairman, not the manager. When results started to go wrong, it takes few weeks to discover if its a blip, or something more fundamental, but the good luck is that we have the window open now and the club can do something about it. It would be madness not to grasp the promotion chance that has been built up over the first half of the season but it won't be achieved by complacency. The quality of the signings that are made and how many, will tell us how serious the club are to get into the Prem and stay there. It takes a few weeks to realise that whening He didn't need to neuter the team by picking the three holding central midfielders in five matches, especially after changing it at 0-1 at halftime v Hull, then continuing the failure for three more matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 He is saying that he talks a good talk and has proven nothing. FFS. Here's the quote - show me exactly where he says what you say he says: It's action we need not words from the manager. He seems to talk a good talk, he now needs to motivate the players. Has done a good job up until now, judge him at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Yet another cock. Do you have to keep coming out with pathetic comments like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Do you have to keep coming out with pathetic comments like this? Coming from you that's a wee bit rich but if I feel like doing it I shall do so and I really couldn't give a flying fu ck what you or others think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Do you have to keep coming out with pathetic comments like this? And you previous 'Happy Clappers' quote on the other thread was what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 He didn't need to neuter the team by picking the three holding central midfielders in five matches, especially after changing it at 0-1 at halftime v Hull, then continuing the failure for three more matches. I don't profess a great football knowledge but I do know that tactically Adkins must have been getting more right than wrong for 18 months to be as successful as we have been. I also know that we played with width on Friday night and lost 1-0. Without three centrasl midfielders. With two. Who had no control of the midfield for the whole bloody game!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 I don't profess a great football knowledge but I do know that tactically Adkins must have been getting more right than wrong for 18 months to be as successful as we have been. I also know that we played with width on Friday night and lost 1-0. Without three centrasl midfielders. With two. Who had no control of the midfield for the whole bloody game!!!! Thing is we start most matches with 4 midfielders, if we're only getting contribution from 2 of them all of the time we will be fooked. If you look closely you'll see that in most games Fonte plays a sort of very deep midfield role leaving the other 2 some time and space to launch the assaults, if he's not there then everything changes, it becomes 3 or 4 of theirs against 2 of ours. What must be remembered is that whoever are playing in the advanced midfield roles they are still midfielders who must contribute to the effort in that sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 I don't profess a great football knowledge but I do know that tactically Adkins must have been getting more right than wrong for 18 months to be as successful as we have been. I also know that we played with width on Friday night and lost 1-0. Without three centrasl midfielders. With two. Who had no control of the midfield for the whole bloody game!!!! Schneiderlin didn't compete. The three of them wouldn't have worked either. SDR was our most effective attacker. Lallana and Guly were also poor. We missed Fonte pushing on into midfield. In the four and a half matches we played with the three together we scored two goals from play + Fox free kick to Lambert v Portsmouth and conceded seven which really sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Far too many negative comments on this site. Wake up everyone, we were only promoted last season. We had a storming start and we are not going to be in a relegation fight. The worst that can happen is a slide down the table. \even if we do finish 17th it is not a disaster, as I am sure we will learn from our errors. We can strengthen for next season and be ready for the new season and have another go. As Churchill once said, never, never, never give up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Far too many negative comments on this site. Wake up everyone, we were only promoted last season. We had a storming start and we are not going to be in a relegation fight. The worst that can happen is a slide down the table. \even if we do finish 17th it is not a disaster, as I am sure we will learn from our errors. We can strengthen for next season and be ready for the new season and have another go. As Churchill once said, never, never, never give up !Sarcasm the lowest form of wit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Schneiderlin didn't compete. The three of them wouldn't have worked either. SDR was our most effective attacker. Lallana and Guly were also poor. We missed Fonte pushing on into midfield. In the four and a half matches we played with the three together we scored two goals from play + Fox free kick to Lambert v Portsmouth and conceded seven which really sums it up. Which is basically our issue - we are massively missing Chaplow and a fit Lallana. Which is hardly the fault of the manager. Take Bale and Modric out of the Spurs side and let's see how they fare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 I never said he'd lost the dressing room - I said it would become a question if this bad run (after a brilliant run with nearly the same players) continues. geoffnut didn't say Adkins had to prove himself - he said "judge him at the end of the season". If there's a cock in this equation it's you because your only response to a different opinion is a childish insult, and because you have to lie about what people posted in order to justify yourself. What? going on a poor run means you've lost the dressing room? there's plenty of possible reasons for a poor run - injuries to key players, not getting the rub of the green, other teams playing well, other teams being good, other teams sussing out the formation and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 January, 2012 Share Posted 2 January, 2012 Point 1. Get behind the Manager and the team. We have over-performed so far to expectations and we're still top of the league (amazingly). There is still plenty of time and opportunity to arrest the 'blip' and come back even stronger. Point 2. I am a little concerned about some of Adkins tactical decisions. He seems more intent on playing certain players and in a certain manner than on sending out a team with a game plan that will actually win a game. Two examples? Guly - sacrifricing width in midfield by playing him central was a disaster. Harding - in the last game, both the Brighton team and fans blamed Harding for the sending off of at least one of their players and it is clear that he was targetted by some cycnical challenges today. Point 3. Lambert needs to show why he is worthy of a place in the Premiership beyond his goal scoring. If he is the talisman the team relies on, then he really needs to be more disciplined regardless of the cheating methods employed by the opposition. Adkins was right about one thing - Lamberts dismissal lost us the game - however it was just the straw that broke the donkeys back. Point 4. We may have a large squad, but there are too many reservists who are not of Championship standard, let alone Premiership quality. Now is the time for NC to spend the money that will give NA the ammunition to cross the winning line. Fail to do this and automatic promotion will slip us by I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 3 January, 2012 Share Posted 3 January, 2012 Why laugh, Geof is exactly right. I'll give NA the benefit of the doubt, but he needs to deliver, so do the players. Talking up the 'positives' after a defeat is toutamount to making excuses. We need to get back to winning ways quickly - don't see anything to laugh about really. You could argue that he's already delivered! C'mon. Give us a break!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 3 January, 2012 Share Posted 3 January, 2012 As usual, NA has it sussed - I know people are saying he got the tactics wrong in the second half, but he had to play what he had and he was out of options today. Let's hope he makes the right choices with who he brings in. Yes but when you go a man down you pull people back and play one up front - 4 4 1 - and this is what Brighton did although with one more player - 4 5 1 - playing 4 3 1 1 or whatever Dave M said meant we were outgunned in midfield and exposed on both flanks. The reality is we do not do defensive midfield players at SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 3 January, 2012 Share Posted 3 January, 2012 Adkins can only pick the players he has in the squad, and until this week, that was fixed so I can't see that he is at fault for the poor results that the team have been turning in for the past 6 or 7 weeks. If there was a failing, it was not anticipating that better players would be needed to cover for injuries and suspensions as the season went on, but that may be down to the chairman, not the manager. When results started to go wrong, it takes few weeks to discover if its a blip, or something more fundamental, but the good luck is that we have the window open now and the club can do something about it. It would be madness not to grasp the promotion chance that has been built up over the first half of the season but it won't be achieved by complacency. The quality of the signings that are made and how many, will tell us how serious the club are to get into the Prem and stay there. It takes a few weeks to realise that whening I think any signings will reflect the relevant push for promotion. I disagree with you that it will be indicative of whether we wish to stay there. That's the summer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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