S-Clarke Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Bet they dont rubber stamp it before the Forest game, wouldn't be the first time slow paperwork has held us up - Papa and Guly to name two recently. That was more the Italian FA holding back providing international clearance, for whatever reason. Weird delays on those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Bet they dont rubber stamp it before the Forest game, wouldn't be the first time slow paperwork has held us up - Papa and Guly to name two recently.the fact remains we have been successful with all three work permit applications so my money would be on Lee getting his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 the fact remains we have been successful with all three work permit applications so my money would be on Lee getting his. As I've said before - if there was a shred of doubt over whether or not he'd get his permit, I don't think we would have got this far. Jaidi's move looked to be dead and yet there was no panic, we simply got him in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Oh I agree but as I asked previously in the thread, when has it ever been a formality when we (Saints) have had dealings with the Home Office re: work permits? Indeed...I remember Milos Drizic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Oh I agree but as I asked previously in the thread, when has it ever been a formality when we (Saints) have had dealings with the Home Office re: work permits? The lad seemed very confident when asked - dismissed and laughed off the possibility of any complication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Brad Friedel springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 7 January, 2012 Share Posted 7 January, 2012 Tadanari Lee was at the game today according to Nige, and has done well over the past few days training with the rest of the squad. Didn't want to say too much about the work permit, but didn't sound overly concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us. we could really do with another striker option for Forest on saturday, would be good if this was completed in time even if it was only for him to come off the bench for connolly, can't afford to lose yet another league game in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 we could really do with another striker option for Forest on saturday, would be good if this was completed in time even if it was only for him to come off the bench for connolly, can't afford to lose yet another league game in a row. Unlikely, anything will be done before Forest...his words. Agree though. Needed to change things even before Lambert's suspension and we can't afford to keep pi $$ing away points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 Unlikely, anything will be done before Forest...his words. Agree though. Needed to change things even before Lambert's suspension and we can't keep pi $$ing away points. you might have already covered this , but when you met him how did you know who he was? and was his English particularly good for you to have this discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 I can't see how we can be so sure of a work permit...9 caps mostly as sub isn't a given I'm sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 January, 2012 Share Posted 9 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us. What flight number? Cheers :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 So, the best song available for this player is one about masturbation. Does this mean he will go through the motions but never actually score in the real world? Quite the reverse. He'll keep popping up in the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 I can't see how we can be so sure of a work permit...9 caps mostly as sub isn't a given I'm sure... Not even the Home Office can refuse Don Cortese.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us.Odd, will he be flying back again for his Home Office interview on Thursday? If so likely to be jet lagged for Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 I'm not going to even pretend I know anything about work permits, but what has the number of caps got to do with anything? How come Guly could get one if he hasn't got any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 No way will he be available on Sat, end of Jan if all goes well I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 I'm not going to even pretend I know anything about work permits, but what has the number of caps got to do with anything? How come Guly could get one if he hasn't got any? Guly already had an EU one from Italy, I can only assume their work permit system is less strict than ours. As for caps, there's a rule that a player must have played in 75% of his countries competitive games in the last 12 months - but I get the feeling it's a bit more flexible than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 (edited) No way will he be available on Sat, end of Jan if all goes well I reckon Agreed, if the time they took to sort out Marians work permit is anything to go by, I seem to recall that took a few weeks and appeals. Latvia were too lowly ranked by FIFA for it to be a formality. For Lee that is not an issue (Japan are ranked 19 I believe), but his number of caps would be. Can't quite recall the rules but has to be a percentage of last so many played that he was selected for. Found a link to the criteria: http://www.internationalworkpermits.com/football-players-work-permits.html Edited 10 January, 2012 by VectisSaint Added Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 Odd, will he be flying back again for his Home Office interview on Thursday? If so likely to be jet lagged for Saturday. My wife deals with (student) visas & stuff (not going to pretend I understand) but she tells me he was probably here on some short term sporting visa but will need to return home initially before his full time work permit is approved (probably not the correct the terminology but I think you get the gist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 I can't see how we can be so sure of a work permit...9 caps mostly as sub isn't a given I'm sure... 9 caps all in 2011, only 2 as sub. Not sure he qualifies for work permit as that is based on last 2 years. Also don't know whether all of the 9 count as only competitive A team internationals are taken into consideration, friendlies are not considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 I'm not going to even pretend I know anything about work permits... Me neither, but the little bit I do know from experience is that you can't normally apply for a Visa (other than an extension to an existing one) while in the Country, so it may well be that he has gone back to Japan to have his interview at the Embassy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 What flight number? Cheers :-) Are you a Skate terrorist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornhill_saints Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 Me neither, but the little bit I do know from experience is that you can't normally apply for a Visa (other than an extension to an existing one) while in the Country, so it may well be that he has gone back to Japan to have his interview at the Embassy there. A work permit is different from a visa, you cant work on a visa. (been watching to much nothing to declare) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 A work permit is different from a visa, you cant work on a visa. (been watching to much nothing to declare) Or maybe not watching enough. From the UK Border Agency's own website: You must obtain a visa before you can come to the UK to work or do business. & Working in the UK This section describes the immigration categories for non-European migrants who want to work in the UK. Each category has different requirements, so you should read the requirements for your chosen category before you apply for a visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 You can get a working visa surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us. Really - Whose that staying in one of the clubs pads at Ocean Village then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us. Fact? or fiction?, where is this reported? I'd find that strange, to say the least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 Fact? or fiction?, where is this reported? I'd find that strange, to say the least! Why? It makes sense for a variety of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 lee has flown back home whilst we await his work permit to be granted. have no fears that it will be given and cant wait to see him play for us. Really - Whose that staying in one of the clubs pads at Ocean Village then? Kato, his trusty side-kick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 Why? It makes sense for a variety of reasons. Enlighten me then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 It's not particularly complicated. Sportspeople apply under the Tier 2 process. They need governing body approval (which comes from the FA) amongst other requirements. For the FA it's 75% of internationals in the last 2 years. How exactly we'd equate that with Lee's 9 games out of 30 odd is a bit of a mystery,unless you take a different start point for his international career ie at his first selection which would be a sub appearance in the Asia Nations Cup;I'm sure we've everything under control though and I hope it's not like the Japanese lad at Arsenal who's had to go on loan in Holland whilst he works up a residential qualification in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 It's not particularly complicated. Sportspeople apply under the Tier 2 process. They need governing body approval (which comes from the FA) amongst other requirements. For the FA it's 75% of internationals in the last 2 years. How exactly we'd equate that with Lee's 9 games out of 30 odd is a bit of a mystery,unless you take a different start point for his international career ie at his first selection which would be a sub appearance in the Asia Nations Cup;I'm sure we've everything under control though and I hope it's not like the Japanese lad at Arsenal who's had to go on loan in Holland whilst he works up a residential qualification in the EU. 75% of internationals that you were available for selection for makes a difference. Did he have an injury of any sort of over the last 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 (edited) 75% of internationals that you were available for selection for makes a difference. Did he have an injury of any sort of over the last 2 years? That has to be definitely proven to the FA if you read their statement of politic for GBE applications.Lee played 32 out of 34 games for Hiroshima last season against 9 out of 17 internationals for Japan.Japanese season runs from about Mid March to the beginning of December.Then again as we seem to have gone so far with the process I can't imagine that we haven't obtained endorsement from the FA. Edited 10 January, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 10 January, 2012 Share Posted 10 January, 2012 It's not particularly complicated. Sportspeople apply under the Tier 2 process. They need governing body approval (which comes from the FA) amongst other requirements. For the FA it's 75% of internationals in the last 2 years. How exactly we'd equate that with Lee's 9 games out of 30 odd is a bit of a mystery,unless you take a different start point for his international career ie at his first selection which would be a sub appearance in the Asia Nations Cup;I'm sure we've everything under control though and I hope it's not like the Japanese lad at Arsenal who's had to go on loan in Holland whilst he works up a residential qualification in the EU. Panels Where an application does not meet the published criteria, (the 75% of competitive "A" Internationals in 2 years) a club may request a panel to consider the player's skills and experience. In these cases the sports and entertainments team, UK Border Agency, will refer the club's evidence to an independent panel. Where possible the club's supporting evidence will be sent to the governing bodies in advance for their consideration in order to allow an informed decision. The panel will normally consist of representatives from the relevant football governing bodies together with up to three independent experts. The panel's terms of reference are: To consider whether the player is of the highest calibre. To consider whether the player is able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in United Kingdom. The panel will make a recommendation to the UK Border Agency whose decision will then be relayed to the club. Full terms of reference and roles of the panel members and the club are available to attendees. Clubs should note that, in respect of any application, there will only be one panel available (i.e. a panel and recommendation, followed by a decision). A club should therefore ensure that all evidence it wishes to present in support of its application is presented to the panel. If the club has previously made an application that was unsuccessful at panel a further panel cannot be requested for the same player during the season. For these purposes a season is deemed to run from 1 June until 31 May. http://www.internationalworkpermits.com/football-players-work-permits.html If it's the Sports & Entertainments team at the Borders Agency that decide then they've got to let him in on his goal celebrations alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Breaking news now on OS http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2573772,00.html Saints lodged their appeal over the work permit of Japanese striker Tadanari Lee at the FA's Headquarters today. Although Lee did not meet the initial criteria to gain a work permit, his case has been approved by the football authorities, who agreed that the international star is an exceptional talent that will enhance the game in this country, and at the age of 26 has plenty to offer over many years. His record of 15 goals in 32 J-League games last year has ensured his status as one of the hottest properties in Asian football whilst his memorable winning strike against Australia in the Asian Cup epitomises the quality that he can bring to the English game. Following this successful appeal, Lee will now finalise his entry clearance papers from the British Embassy and head back to England as soon as possible in order to sign his contract with the Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Breaking news now on OS http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2573772,00.html Saints lodged their appeal over the work permit of Japanese striker Tadanari Lee at the FA's Headquarters today. Although Lee did not meet the initial criteria to gain a work permit, his case has been approved by the football authorities, who agreed that the international star is an exceptional talent that will enhance the game in this country, and at the age of 26 has plenty to offer over many years. His record of 15 goals in 32 J-League games last year has ensured his status as one of the hottest properties in Asian football whilst his memorable winning strike against Australia in the Asian Cup epitomises the quality that he can bring to the English game. Following this successful appeal, Lee will now finalise his entry clearance papers from the British Embassy and head back to England as soon as possible in order to sign his contract with the Club. God, you are quick, do you ever work lol????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Good times. Now get him back here and signed up before Friday lunchtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Breaking news now on OS http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2573772,00.html Saints lodged their appeal over the work permit of Japanese striker Tadanari Lee at the FA's Headquarters today. Although Lee did not meet the initial criteria to gain a work permit, his case has been approved by the football authorities, who agreed that the international star is an exceptional talent that will enhance the game in this country, and at the age of 26 has plenty to offer over many years. His record of 15 goals in 32 J-League games last year has ensured his status as one of the hottest properties in Asian football whilst his memorable winning strike against Australia in the Asian Cup epitomises the quality that he can bring to the English game. Following this successful appeal, Lee will now finalise his entry clearance papers from the British Embassy and head back to England as soon as possible in order to sign his contract with the Club. Get in there! The system works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Just seen house-hunting in Sho-ling ¦) In for Saturday - how quick can he get back from Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Good news, could be a cracking signing. Now 2 to go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Breaking news now on OS http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2573772,00.html Saints lodged their appeal over the work permit of Japanese striker Tadanari Lee at the FA's Headquarters today. Although Lee did not meet the initial criteria to gain a work permit, his case has been approved by the football authorities, who agreed that the international star is an exceptional talent that will enhance the game in this country, and at the age of 26 has plenty to offer over many years. His record of 15 goals in 32 J-League games last year has ensured his status as one of the hottest properties in Asian football whilst his memorable winning strike against Australia in the Asian Cup epitomises the quality that he can bring to the English game. Following this successful appeal, Lee will now finalise his entry clearance papers from the British Embassy and head back to England as soon as possible in order to sign his contract with the Club. So has he got a work permit or not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Just seen house-hunting in Sho-ling ¦) In for Saturday - how quick can he get back from Japan? 12 hour flight. Most flights from Japan arrive in London mid-afternoon. So, tomorrow afternoon at the very earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 So has he got a work permit or not?? Yes, as he is so darn talented lol!!! Sounds exciting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 BOOOOM. Available on the bench for Leicester I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Wow, Nicola must be running out of horse heads. Great work, wonder if he can be registered by the deadline for the Forest game (Friday midday is it?) although if it isn't I might get to see his debut the week after at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Excellent news. Hopefully, all the hype on the OS means his arrival at SMS will be worth the wait! Fingers crossed he's not the only new arrival into the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 11 January, 2012 Share Posted 11 January, 2012 Did we know the club's initial application for a work permit had failed and this was an appeal ? I thought we thought this was a straight permit application job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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