Alanh Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 They are three of a small number who are available, affordable and in form in the npc. I think the point is that many other options represent a bigger gamble when what we really need is someone to make an immediate impact between now and the summer to propel us to promotion. I think too many people are assuming that an in form nPC striker at another club would have an immediate impact for us. There are countless examples of players moving clubs and not being able to replicate their previous form at the new club. Torres and Carrol spring to mind immediately. The only solution is to wait and see. Speculation about how successful he will be or how successful anyone else might be is just guesswork and therefore you can't compare the relative size of the gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 we aren't spending 1.8 million on this player....he is a free agent...we will be paying him a salary and maybe a signing on fee but that's about it. Buddy, I don't think cost is much of an indicator to be honest. How much did Ba cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 It's just stupid to me that there will genuinely be people out there who say we're not ambitious enough or will be disappointed if we don't get one of those three, purely because we were linked with them each of them - once. I would be horrified to be quite honest if the club hadn't looked beyond those three, just as a lot of people on here haven't done. Luckily, I don't think that is the case, the club hasn't just set its sights on those three and not let go. Paul Jewell is playing a very risky game by continually saying he wants Sharp and coming out and saying how negotiations have gone or what he has or hasn't done. If he doesn't get Sharp he'll look even more of an arse than he does already. To reiterate, Jutkiewicz, Sharp, Maynard and Rodriguez aren't the only four attainable strikers in the world capable of playing for us. Can we please try and open our minds a bit and not focus solely on them. It doesn't help anyone in the end. People are not saying we are unmbitious because we have not gone for those three. Those three strikers are examples of players who are in-form in our league, affordable (well at least two out of three reportedly) and are strikers who are MOST likely to make an impact straight away which is what we need IMO. Obviously there are others but like I said, there are a small number that fit what we need now. Lee sounds great but if he is the only striker we get then I would question how much of an impact he can have straight away based on the factors that have already been outlined. To repeat, I did not say that those three are the only strikers available. If you reread the post of mine that you quoted above then you will see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 No I said that in my opinion our squad depth was not sufficient enough to stay in our current position. History has shown how weak we are without certain key players and with little backup for Rickie for example we will struggle IMO. This is the best chance we have of promotion and I would hate to see us miss out due to lack of cover or a striker with good npc experience who can hit the ground running. I agree with this. Lee might turn out to be great BUT there is a CHANCE that coming from a smaller league that is not as physical as the Championship he may take a while to adapt. Our recent results have shown a desperate need for other options up front (especially with Rickie missing) - I'm all for signing Lee, but would back up those saying that if he is to be the only striker we sign/can afford this window then we are in some respects gambling with the best chance of promotion back to the Prem that we've had in years. Its true that JRod, Lukas, Sharp, Maynard aren't the only 4 strikers who might do well for us - but the key is that they have experience of scoring goals in the Championship and are therefore more likely to start producing the goods immediately. Lee may turn out to be a great signing, but we may need another striker as well who is better suited to our needs in our current position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I think too many people are assuming that an in form nPC striker at another club would have an immediate impact for us. There are countless examples of players moving clubs and not being able to replicate their previous form at the new club. Torres and Carrol spring to mind immediately. The only solution is to wait and see. Speculation about how successful he will be or how successful anyone else might be is just guesswork and therefore you can't compare the relative size of the gamble. Of course but I believe that without knowing for certain, I would suggest that having seen their respective form in the same league as us, they are more likely to be able to adapt quickly and represent less of a gamble than a promising striker from the J league. Fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 No I said that in my opinion our squad depth was not sufficient enough to stay in our current position. History has shown how weak we are without certain key players and with little backup for Rickie for example we will struggle IMO. This is the best chance we have of promotion and I would hate to see us miss out due to lack of cover or a striker with good npc experience who can hit the ground running. One Striker is an improvement, two would be better BUT no point getting knickers in a twist if we don't get another striker. That's just inviting a silly situation saying "2 strikers otherwise the transfer window will be a FAILURE" Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Good to see toblerone comming out with another classic managerial gem " If the latter then they are making a mistake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 This has come as a shock to me - you always seem to be on here. Do you mean that you have been employed for 25 years. Oops, yep. Sorry for the typo ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Buddy, I don't think cost is much of an indicator to be honest. How much did Ba cost? The reply is a simple effort to dispel the dogma that we are actually paying money for the player. I shan't be judging him until he's had a good few games for us....if and when that happens cos there I'm just a weeny bit sceptic because they don't throw work permits around like confetti nowadays.A prima facie the player does not qualify for work permit unless special circumstances are considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I agree with this. Lee might turn out to be great BUT there is a CHANCE that coming from a smaller league that is not as physical as the Championship he may take a while to adapt. Our recent results have shown a desperate need for other options up front (especially with Rickie missing) - I'm all for signing Lee, but would back up those saying that if he is to be the only striker we sign/can afford this window then we are in some respects gambling with the best chance of promotion back to the Prem that we've had in years. Its true that JRod, Lukas, Sharp, Maynard aren't the only 4 strikers who might do well for us - but the key is that they have experience of scoring goals in the Championship and are therefore more likely to start producing the goods immediately. Lee may turn out to be a great signing, but we may need another striker as well who is better suited to our needs in our current position. You said it much better than I could. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 One Striker is an improvement, two would be better BUT no point getting knickers in a twist if we don't get another striker. That's just inviting a silly situation saying "2 strikers otherwise the transfer window will be a FAILURE" Lol Depends if you see the January transfer window as crucial to our promotion hopes. In my opinion it would be a failure to only sign Lee as we don't know how well he'd adapt. Signing someone like Sharp would represent less of a gamble if our aim is to gun for promotion this season and want to invest accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 One Striker is an improvement, two would be better BUT no point getting knickers in a twist if we don't get another striker. That's just inviting a silly situation saying "2 strikers otherwise the transfer window will be a FAILURE" Lol I think my comment was pretty fair. I was hardly getting my knickers in a twist like you claim. I just don't want to be the one starting a thread in May if we fail to go up asking where it went wrong and looking back to our lack of firepower following key injuries to the likes of Lambert and missing out because our Japanese striker took a couple of months to settle into the squad (which would be entirely understandable.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 You're getting a bit frustrated with your fellow forum members aren't you? I totally agree with you by the way. A few names get mentioned and people on here get fixated by them. A little bit yes, for good reason though. Skacel anyone? It was an unhealthy obsession and look what happened. I don't really want to go back to those days. I think too many people are assuming that an in form nPC striker at another club would have an immediate impact for us. There are countless examples of players moving clubs and not being able to replicate their previous form at the new club. Torres and Carrol spring to mind immediately. The only solution is to wait and see. Speculation about how successful he will be or how successful anyone else might be is just guesswork and therefore you can't compare the relative size of the gamble. Well said. People are not saying we are unmbitious because we have not gone for those three. Those three strikers are examples of players who are in-form in our league, affordable (well at least two out of three reportedly) and are strikers who are MOST likely to make an impact straight away which is what we need IMO. Obviously there are others but like I said, there are a small number that fit what we need now. Lee sounds great but if he is the only striker we get then I would question how much of an impact he can have straight away based on the factors that have already been outlined. To repeat, I did not say that those three are the only strikers available. If you reread the post of mine that you quoted above then you will see that. Oh please don't get me wrong, I didn't want to make it sound like you were saying that. It's just that those names have been banded about here, with some making out as if we definitely need them, when the truth is yes, we were linked, but no more than that. I'm not certain we ever went that far with Sharp, I don't think anyone can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I think my comment was pretty fair. I was hardly getting my knickers in a twist like you claim. I just don't want to be the one starting a thread in May if we fail to go up asking where it went wrong and looking back to our lack of firepower following key injuries to the likes of Lambert and missing out because our Japanese striker took a couple of months to settle into the squad (which would be entirely understandable.) Again, advocating concern based on a situation no one can be sure will come to exist!! Did your crystal ball tell you he will take 2 months to settle and as such be the main reason for us failing to get promoted?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 A little bit yes, for good reason though. Skacel anyone? It was an unhealthy obsession and look what happened. I don't really want to go back to those days. Well said. Oh please don't get me wrong, I didn't want to make it sound like you were saying that. It's just that those names have been banded about here, with some making out as if we definitely need them, when the truth is yes, we were linked, but no more than that. I'm not certain we ever went that far with Sharp, I don't think anyone can be. I don't think we need one of those three, but I definitely do think that by having one of those three or very similar will improve our promotion chances quite a bit. As I said, they are in-form in our league and thus fit the criteria for what we should be looking for IMO. If we leave it with just Lee and no one else then I think that whilst promotion could still be achievable, we are taking a gamble that if it doesn't pay off will see us looking back and wishing we had gone for an in form and affordable NPC striker (like Sharp) in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Again, advocating concern based on a situation no one can be sure will come to exist!! Did your crystal ball tell you he will take 2 months to settle and as such be the main reason for us failing to get promoted?? I really don't think you understand what I am trying to say. What I am attempting to get across is that it is quite possible that we will get promotion with just Lee. It is possible that he will make an immediate impact and fire us to promotion. What I believe is that it is more LIKELY that an NPC striker currently in form will be able to do a job straight away. It's the same reason that fans in general give players a lot more slack when they come from different countries and cultures because in most cases it takes a little while to adjust to the culture and physicality of the league. The likes of the three strikers mentioned will have one advantage over Lee because they are used to playing and being successful in this league already. That does not mean that they will be more successful at all but it does IMO mean that they are more likely to be able to do a job immediately which is really what we require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I really don't think you understand what I am trying to say. What I am attempting to get across is that it is quite possible that we will get promotion with just Lee. It is possible that he will make an immediate impact and fire us to promotion. What I believe is that it is more LIKELY that an NPC striker currently in form will be able to do a job straight away. It's the same reason that fans in general give players a lot more slack when they come from different countries and cultures because in most cases it takes a little while to adjust to the culture and physicality of the league. The likes of the three strikers mentioned will have one advantage over Lee because they are used to playing and being successful in this league already. That does not mean that they will be more successful at all but it does IMO mean that they are more likely to be able to do a job immediately which is really what we require. I hear what you are saying but based on your track record of predictions and statements, what you deem as "likely" based on your reasoning, carries very little weight on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Again, advocating concern based on a situation no one can be sure will come to exist!! Did your crystal ball tell you he will take 2 months to settle and as such be the main reason for us failing to get promoted?? Don't be so ridiculous. Nothing in football is ever certain and we can never be sure any scenario will come to exist, the point is you have to make the best possible preparations for any scenario arising. What Hypo is trying to say, and I agree with him, is that there is a higher CHANCE that Lee will take time to settle as he is coming from a poorer standard of league where defenders aren't as physical. Signing a Sharp as well would give us a higher CHANCE of success based on the fact that he has a track record of scoring a good number of goals in the same division as us. Of course, lack of goals might not be the thing that fails to get us promotion, but on recent history a lack of options up front/from the bench has cost us especially in away games - and with Rickie out we don't have suitable cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Don't be so ridiculous. Nothing in football is ever certain and we can never be sure any scenario will come to exist, the point is you have to make the best possible preparations for any scenario arising. What Hypo is trying to say, and I agree with him, is that there is a higher CHANCE that Lee will take time to settle as he is coming from a poorer standard of league where defenders aren't as physical. Signing a Sharp as well would give us a higher CHANCE of success based on the fact that he has a track record of scoring a good number of goals in the same division as us. Of course, lack of goals might not be the thing that fails to get us promotion, but on recent history a lack of options up front/from the bench has cost us especially in away games - and with Rickie out we don't have suitable cover. Who are you his minder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Who are you his minder? No - just reacting to your response to his point which you clearly failed to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Who are you his minder? Probably someone who thinks I'm making a perfectly reasonable and non-abusive point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Probably someone who thinks I'm making a perfectly reasonable and non-abusive point. Oh I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Oh I see... Good. Glad you can understand now. Lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Good. Glad you can understand now. Lets move on. Yes, lets. So whats your next prediction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Yes, lets. So whats your next prediction? I didn't make a prediction. You are clearly deliberately failing to understand what I have written quite clearly and what other posters have attempted to write too. Some posters believe that it is more likely that successful strikers in the NPC will be able to settle into an NPC team quicker than a striker from halfway around the world who has never played outside of his own country. It's not rocket science and hardly a controversial point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 No - just reacting to your response to his point which you clearly failed to understand. Lol, you carry on understanding hypo mate. I'll come back to you in a few months and see where you're at with him then.. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Who are you his minder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Lol, you carry on understanding hypo mate. I'll come back to you in a few months and see where you're at with him then.. Lol There used to be a rule on here- play the ball not the man. It's a shame you are seemingly incapable of doing so. Do you disagree about the likelihood of a player being able to settle or are you disagreeing simply because I am the one who posted it? Your comments suggest the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 (edited) I didn't make a prediction. You are clearly deliberately failing to understand what I have written quite clearly and what other posters have attempted to write too. Some posters believe that it is more likely that successful strikers in the NPC will be able to settle into an NPC team quicker than a striker from halfway around the world who has never played outside of his own country. It's not rocket science and hardly a controversial point of view. Listen hypochondriac, sarcasm aside, let me explain to you where I exactly stand. I don't like predictions especially those coming out of your mouth. They rarely cause any good on this place just bickering and negativity. Im not happy clappy but reading your posts over time has taught me a lot about you. The most important of those things is how adept you are at taking any opportunity to stir up the good stuff. In response to your point you've been banging on about most of this thread like a rabid dog on heat to do with local and foreign strikers, i don't care mate! Lol One rule never fits all. If you can accept that, it's my opinion so before you try shoving down my throat more of your bollix, kindly do jog on. Edited 5 January, 2012 by Avenue Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Quit the bickering and lets get back to the point of the thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Listen hypochondriac, sarcasm aside, let me explain to you where I exactly stand. I don't like predictions especially those coming out of your mouth. They rarely cause any good on this place just bickering and negativity. Im not happy clappy but reading your posts over time has taught me a lot about you. The most important of those things is how adept you are at taking any opportunity to stir up the good stuff. In response to your point you've been banging on about most of this thread like a rabbid dog on heat to do with local and foreign strikers, i don't care mate! Lol One rule never fits all. If you can accept that, it's my opinion so before you try shoving it down my throat more of your bollix, kindly do jog on. If you don't care then there was no need to quote the point in the first place! Now as Saint Garrett said lets get on with the thread without this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I like cake. Anyway, Adkins' interview about Tadanari Lee might be on South Today, half an hour's time. There's now speculation he'll be granted his permit as early as tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 If you don't care then there was no need to quote the point in the first place! Now as Saint Garrett said lets get on with the thread without this nonsense. if we dont buy ANOTHER striker then this transfer window is NOT a failed one by default. Understand that hypochondriac! lol Its okay if you need to reply to this, I understand how you neeeeeeeeeeeeeed to get the last word in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 if we dont buy ANOTHER striker then this transfer window is NOT a failed one by default. Understand that hypochondriac! lol Its okay if you need to reply to this, I understand how you neeeeeeeeeeeeeed to get the last word in... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?34823-Club-in-talks-with-Tadanari-Lee&p=1228536#post1228536 I'm not sure how much clearer I can be in that post that that was not what I said. If you need further clarification of what I actually said then you are welcome to contact me via PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I honestly think he's copied and pasted his comments from the 'Saints sign Guly' thread. It is ridiculous to say that Lee will not settle or make little impact as soon as he arrives but in fairness Alpine just said his gut feeling was that he was for next season. I'm not sure I agree with that to be fair but I do think we would do well to get another striker in who is more familiar with the NPC. I don't think we will though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 dont you just love saints web threads when we get in a new player!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 dont you just love saints web threads when we get in a new player!! What can you expect, expectations always run too high for our coffers. Still wish we were hearing rumours about a keeper or a central defender though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 dont you just love saints web threads when we get in a new player!! Only another 25 and a half days to go .... nurse ... my medication please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 dont you just love saints web threads when we get in a new player!! No!...........to many doomsayers, I can't believe they are fans sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 What can you expect, expectations always run too high for our coffers. Still wish we were hearing rumours about a keeper or a central defender though. i do think we will get more players in. we're leaking too many goals so do think another defender is on the agenda. About the keeper situation, I personally rate Bart. His recent performance doesn't do him any justice and i have seen from close range how brilliant he can be. Davis has had his fair share of absolute mares and people on here have absolutely savaged him in the past. But overall he's done a job for us! Might even get another striker, who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Ready made song for him, courtesy of Tenacious D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Lots of people are very anxious because of recent form and they see promotion slipping away. So they are in a bit of a panic and because this guy doesn't appear to be a sure thing like a known commodity already playing in this country / division, he is not being given a fair crack of the whip. I do not see him as a panic signing, I have more than enough faith in Adkins that he would scout someone properly - both in respect to talent and suitability for our team on and off the pitch - before making a bid. Yes it would be fair to say the settling in process for foreign players can be assumed to be longer than players already based here, but at the same time I am sure Adkins and Cortese are acutely aware of how big the opportunity is to go up this season and will be doing everything they can with the resources we've got to give it our best shot with no regrets. Adkins deserves the benefit of the doubt with this one based on his efforts thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Lots of people are very anxious because of recent form and they see promotion slipping away. So they are in a bit of a panic and because this guy doesn't appear to be a sure thing like a known commodity already playing in this country / division' date=' [b']he is not being given a fair crack of the whip. I do not see him as a panic signing,[/b] I have more than enough faith in Adkins that he would scout someone properly - both in respect to talent and suitability for our team on and off the pitch - before making a bid. Yes it would be fair to say the settling in process for foreign players can be assumed to be longer than players already based here, but at the same time I am sure Adkins and Cortese are acutely aware of how big the opportunity is to go up this season and will be doing everything they can with the resources we've got to give it our best shot with no regrets. Adkins deserves the benefit of the doubt with this one based on his efforts thus far. Has he been viewed as a panic signing? Who hasn't given him a fair crack of the whip? I don't think a single person on this thread has suggested that he isn't a player worth signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Tenacious D will not be allowed at St. Mary's on the grounds that Jack Black is a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Tenacious D will not be allowed at St. Mary's on the grounds that Jack Black is a ****. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Another defender? What position? When Fraser Jos Fonte Fox are fit it seems harsh to replace any. Depends whose available I guess. Do need another CB option, but they may just rely on Martin and Jaidi. If funds are short then best to rely on a loan if needed anyway. A lot of the demands for transfers seem to stem from the assumption that we have a fortune and merely choose not to spend. Seriously doubt Adkins would just ignore funds if they were there. You're right chap. The first choices pick themselves. However we're a bit thin with Seaborne out (and not good enough anyway) Jaidi unfit and with new pot belly (see recent saints player clip) and Martin who may or may not be ready. Wouldnt be surprised if Adkins went back in for someone like Fontaine again. Shame about Jaidi coming to end of his days, when fit the guy was an absolute rock! The other thing for me is Fraser. Probably the most improved player this season and have loved his pin point crosses but... and a small but, technically he is lacking. So with that in mind could we be after another young cultured right back long term? a la Clyne perhaps to provide competition for the slot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 5 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Mods can you edit my original post title back to what it started as now? Mr Lee started training with the lads today so I don't think it's a "rumour" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I don't think he will sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I don't think he will sign He has already signed, pending the work permit being approved/accepted. Once that's done, all becomes official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Haven't seen anywhere official say he has signed I just have a hunch the work permit will be a killer in the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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