scotty Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Guly is sh/t, always has been. He adds nothing to the team, but scores a few because the others carry him. Wrong. Guly is a very good player indeed when played in position. I understand the tactic of getting him out on the wing, but when he plays in a central role he's something else altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Any chance we could come up with an original chant for the lad if he signs; one without racist undertones if at all possible? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Any chance we could come up with an original chant for the lad if he signs; one without racist undertones if at all possible? Cheers. Back to the thread, I like it. It's a good idea. To the tune of 'Hallelujah': TAD-a-nari, tadanari, tadanari, TAD-a-nari, tadanari, tadanari... And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Twice though? They paid £2 million to bring him back after his stint at S****horpe, having let him go for nothing, then decided to let him go again for half that. I guess i'm using my final post on this then :/ Fair point, but IIRC the first time was Warnock and the second was Blackwell. Both seemed to take a similar approach tot he transfer window. Sign every striker available. And they both seemed to fill the bench with strikers at the expense of having a backup goalie. I'm not sure they had a clue what they were doing when it came to strikers. Robson brought in Beattie and Sharp, he only got one of them scoring. But no strike partner has done well when Beattie is having a good season afaik. I'm sure we'll get to see him move to a bigger club anyway and his big fish reputation will be confirmed or quashied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Yes, Serie A players are crap, and persuading one to play for us in L1 against Dagenham should be met with boos and calls for a taxi. Like he's good enough for a serie A or a premier league side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Any chance we could come up with an original chant for the lad if he signs; one without racist undertones if at all possible? Cheers. Or swearing. Just makes us look like thugs. Embarrassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 You can't buy a Saints shirt in JJB in Southampton let alone buy one in Tokyo? Am I the only one that thinks this transfer deal is all about selling shirts in Japan (and maybe Korea as well)? I'm just not convinced a player used to the J League will give us what we need in the English Championship to get us promoted - or that he'll cope with the speed and physicality of the Premier League is we ever get back there either. I can see him frustrating the crowd in the same way that Do Prado does now. I'd be much happier if we were signing Lucas Juktiewitz who has proved he can get goals in the Championship for a bad team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I guess i'm using my final post on this then :/ Fair point, but IIRC the first time was Warnock and the second was Blackwell. Both seemed to take a similar approach tot he transfer window. Sign every striker available. And they both seemed to fill the bench with strikers at the expense of having a backup goalie. I'm not sure they had a clue what they were doing when it came to strikers. Robson brought in Beattie and Sharp, he only got one of them scoring. But no strike partner has done well when Beattie is having a good season afaik. I'm sure we'll get to see him move to a bigger club anyway and his big fish reputation will be confirmed or quashied. 51 appearances in his second spell, eight goals. Can't really say he wasn't given a chance when he played 51 times can you? I do believe he is a good striker, I'd be foolish to deny it, I maintain though, rightly, he is not the only player on the earth. I also think that a Premier League club would have signed him if they had thought he was worth it. They haven't, so he probably isn't. I could see a side like Wolves come in for him - they were willing to pay £6.5 million for Kevin Doyle, who like Sharp scored a hell of a lot of goals in the second tier, but in the top flight has hardly hit the headlines with his goalscoring exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 You can't buy a Saints shirt in JJB in Southampton let alone buy one in Tokyo? Added to the fact that I cannot imagine for one minute that we have anything like the following needed to sell shirts to the level people are thinking over there. It's fine when you're talking about Liverpool or United, but us, in the second tier? Doubt it. I think you'll also find CSKA Moscow and VVV-Venlo didn't sell millions of shirts after Honda's moves to Russia and Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Just out of interest, how many other players in our squad have played 9 times for their national side? And of those who has represented a side in the Top 20 of the FIFA Rankings? Jaidi has over 100 caps, for Tunisia ranked 59, Connolly also has caps for Ireland (ranked 22). I think thats it. I can read perfectly well thanks. Pipe down you dweeb. the original clearly asks two seperate questions, one who has played for their national side, the rankings is seperate, so what the f*ck are you on about? Clearly you cant read, and neiter can JRM. It was a 2 part question: which current Saints players have reprented their country more than 9 times AND OF THOSE who has represented a side in the Top 20 of the FIFA Rankings? (See above, again - and if you are still confused ask your English teacher to explain it to you when you get back to school next week!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 quashied. I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 (edited) Like he's good enough for a serie A or a premier league side. He's not a sh/t player carried by the rest of the squad either. I thought he was prob our best player against Brighton. Edited 4 January, 2012 by shirleysfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Guly is sh/t, always has been. He adds nothing to the team, but scores a few because the others carry him. Yeah, I reckon I could have scored 9-10 goals in this team this season. The advantage with me is that I'd look like I was trying really hard so the fans would love me. Guly is sh*t indeed. Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernsaint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 From looking at other forums, I believe do Prado is almost as feared as Lambert when played up top. He isn't the most hardworking player but hes a bit of a Berbatov just less overall quality. When he's in the mood, he can and has been a match winner. Anyway back to Tadanari Lee. Exciting news. I hope he settled rapidly and proves to be something different as I feel other than SDR we have no geniune wing pairing atm. If this means we can get a bit of width and also chip in with a few goals ala Chaplow this could be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 9 goals and 7 assists so far this season. No player in the championship has a better combined total. ****e indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 From looking at other forums, I believe do Prado is almost as feared as Lambert when played up top. He isn't the most hardworking player but hes a bit of a Berbatov just less overall quality. When he's in the mood, he can and has been a match winner. Anyway back to Tadanari Lee. Exciting news. I hope he settled rapidly and proves to be something different as I feel other than SDR we have no geniune wing pairing atm. If this means we can get a bit of width and also chip in with a few goals ala Chaplow this could be a great signing. Apart from the fact he's not a winger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Guly is sh/t, always has been. He adds nothing to the team, but scores a few because the others carry him. You've just confirmed you know **** all about football. Guly scores and creates ........ 9 goals and similar assists I believe which is similar to lambert if you take out the pens? Guly may be inconsistent, creative players often are .... Lallana being an example right now ..... But **** he certainly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 You've just confirmed you know **** all about football. Guly scores and creates ........ 9 goals and similar assists I believe which is similar to lambert if you take out the pens? Guly may be inconsistent, creative players often are .... Lallana being an example right now ..... But **** he certainly is not. Unfortunately, they don't all suffer from a lack of knowing what offside is most of the time, they can control the ball nine times out of ten and I'm sure many don't sulk as much as our Guly. He's a flawed player, and he's been here for well over a year, so it is concerning. Is he **** though? No, that's going a bit too far. Back to Tadanari Lee... Dunno if it's been mentioned elsewhere but he was very close to agreeing a deal with Hertha Berlin. They're no mugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 my mate is the gardener at Staplewood and he was asked to plant Bonzai trees around the training pitches today so it is good to see the club are making him feel at home. however, after watching the bridge over the river kwai the other day i don't want to see any Japanese flags popping up at st marys. Just as I thought we had reached a new low with the Kung Fu song (it being a Chinese martial art and nothing to do with Japan) we have a new winner. Please come to the front to collect your new KKK/dunce hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Just as I thought we had reached a new low with the Kung Fu song (it being a Chinese martial art and nothing to do with Japan) we have a new winner. Please come to the front to collect your new KKK/dunce hat. what the f*ck are you on about? Mr Miyagi in the karate kid is possibly in my top 3 favourite film characters of all time so stick your kkk hat up your fat sumo arse. if Lee can have the same effect on saints as Miyagi did on Daniel Luruso it'll be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 what the f*ck are you on about? Mr Miyagi in the karate kid is possibly in my top 3 favourite film characters of all time so stick your kkk hat up your fat sumo arse. if Lee can have the same effect on saints as Miyagi did on Daniel Luruso it'll be a great signing. Lol!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Mackey Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/228563/Southampton-sign-striker-Tadanari-Lee/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobysaint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Haven't trawled through all 15 pages but a late night and somewhat drunken song suggestion... The vapors - Turning Japanese Chorus - Tadanari Tadanari Tadanari Tadanari scores goals I'll get my coat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/228563/Southampton-sign-striker-Tadanari-Lee/? Great article...Not sure about the £2m part of it though !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I for one think he'll be an excellent signing and just what we need. A left-footed attacking player who isn't permanently injured (Holmes) or not flavour of the month (Puncheon). I've said for a while that we lack a genuine Left footed going forward and with Lee we will start to look more balanced. We always seem to sway right naturally as usually midfield and forwards are right footed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/228563/Southampton-sign-striker-Tadanari-Lee/? What a genuinely deep and insightful article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Have just read that he'll head back to Japan as soon as he finds out about his work permit. So if he does sign, who knows when he'll play his first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 that is EXACTLY what I shouted at him after he got that lucky late winner against bristol rovers last season. Me too! And that AWFUL goal against Blackpool. And those 2 **** headers against Palace last week! And...AND...AND!!! Really Dune. Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 What a genuinely deep and insightful article. I love the bit that says 'Saints have signed Lee for 2million'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Have just read that he'll head back to Japan as soon as he finds out about his work permit. So if he does sign, who knows when he'll play his first game. Probably not on Saturday then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Yeah, I reckon I could have scored 9-10 goals in this team this season. The advantage with me is that I'd look like I was trying really hard so the fans would love me. Guly is sh*t indeed. Funny. Lallana's form / end product / contribution even more disconcerting and frustrating if this is anywhere remotely true. Failing that, don't try being cute & funny or try to carry favour with someone like Dune, whose contribution to any debate is of no worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Have just read that he'll head back to Japan as soon as he finds out about his work permit. So if he does sign, who knows when he'll play his first game. Where did you see that CD? Seems an odd thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Lallana's form / end product / contribution even more disconcerting and frustrating if this is anywhere remotely true. Failing that, don't try being cute & funny or try to carry favour with someone like Dune, whose contribution to any debate is of no worth. Trying to carry favour with Dune? Don't be an idiot. I was taking the **** out of his ridiculous views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 On the guly subject, he is not ****, just lazy there is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Guly is more casual than lazy - there's a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 what the f*ck are you on about? Mr Miyagi in the karate kid is possibly in my top 3 favourite film characters of all time so stick your kkk hat up your fat sumo arse. if Lee can have the same effect on saints as Miyagi did on Daniel Luruso it'll be a great signing. I have no idea what you are talking about? I guess you are saying that karate and Kung Fu are the same thing? Put the hat back on and go sit at the 'thick table'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I have no idea what you are talking about? I guess you are saying that karate and Kung Fu are the same thing? Put the hat back on and go sit at the 'thick table'. Being a 5th Dan myself I find that comment so funny, like saying football is rugby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Being a 5th Dan myself I find that comment so funny, like saying football is rugby I reckon you must be the hardest SaintsWeb member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I love the bit that says 'Saints have signed Lee for 2million'. i think they mean that the value of his 2.5 year contract is 2 million £ ie 2.5x800K£. Lee is a free agent or at least he was when he was being hawked about in France by his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Have just read that he'll head back to Japan as soon as he finds out about his work permit. So if he does sign, who knows when he'll play his first game. Yes. One of the articles from abroad (sorry -can't remember which) said something like 'he would train with us for the first 10 days, whilst he was here', with the implication being he was here for a temporary visit to get all signed and presumably to do whatever he personally has to do to get a work permit, then return to Japan, before coming here permanently. So if it is correct that this time is in effect a visit, even if he is fit, there's no way he's going to covering for Lambert's suspension. We'll be lucky to see him play before the end of the month I reckon. Which raises the question, how bad is Guly's injury from the Brighton game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Being a 5th Dan myself I find that comment so funny, like saying football is rugby 'Rugby Football' and 'Association Football'? Nah, no connection whatsoever... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 (edited) So "Japanese International Star"; "Scored winner against Australia in Asia Cup Final" so waht's missing from the perfect CV No effing Premier League team is interested.... So how has this amazing talent slipped through the net? Another Adkins hunch who will soon join Rochdale on loan? Lee has had interest from German , Italian Seria A teams and English clubs - He stated this in an interview recently _ I think if he does sign will will see just what a find this guy is for us and raise the profile of the club - Edited 5 January, 2012 by qwertySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 My take on this is that Lee looks to be potentially an excellent signing for the medium term. It is an opportunity to sign an international striker from a reasonably high-ranking country, and Nige and the scouts have surely done their research into how he plays and feel confident that he will fit in with our style. I'm sure they've also done their research into his attitude and even without English language, he will be willing to learn and probably has the ability to do so quickly. However, just like with Stief, Adkins is not going to hurry him into the first team unless he really does take things by storm. There will be a bedding in period, both culturally and from a footballing point of view. This is not a signing for now; I think a few goals from the bench in the first few months could be the most we can expect. So he is NOT a signing to cover Lambert's ban and Guly's injury, and it is not even a signing to try and 'rubber-stamp' our promotion credentials. It is a calculated gamble on an international striker available on a free transfer. It does not fulfil our immediate need for a proven striker at this level who is currently on a good run of form and high in confidence, who can fit straight into our team, possibly knows one or two faces around the dressing room, can cover Rickie's absence, and can give us 10 goals between now and the end of the season to help fire us to promotion. And seeing as I don't see too many Premiership strikers queuing up to join us, that leaves only a select few names that fit the bill, namely the likes of Sharp, Maynard, Jutkiewicz and Rodrigues. OK these names have been trotted out for months now but the simple fact is, we have a very specific need for a striker who is on-form at this level and can slip straight in and continue their run of form for us, and there are only very few players who fit this particular bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 An off the wall conspiracy theory has just popped into my head.... Let's imagine Cortese/Adkins' primary striker targets are indeed the likes of Maynard, Sharp etc but they are being held to ransome by their current clubs because they know we have money and need a new striker. So, what can Cortese/Adkins do in order to counter-balance the negotiations? How about putting in a speculative bid for a little known foreign player (say, from Japan for arguments sake) thus giving the impression to the likes of Bristol City, Doncaster, etc that we're not as desperate for their star player(s) as they perhaps thought we were. We therefore string out the 'little known foreign player' purchase long enough for the negotiations on Maynard or Sharp or a.n.other to take place with Cortese/Adkins saying to Bristol City, Doncaster, etc that they've got another irons in the fire so lower the price before we take our money elsewhere. We then bag our primary transfer target(s) with the 'little known foreign player' transfer conveniently falling through due to a last minute hitch in the registration process.... This would maybe explain the unusual step the club has taken in pre-announcing the deal when they normally keep things under wraps until it's 100% sewn up. Nah, too far fetched even for me that theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 Good point Battersea - but i disagree this guy is 27 and I believe will be pulling on a shirt up front as soon as the deal / work permit is completed. Lee will be I think a main player for us this season - he is not coming here to develop , in his interviews in Korean he wants to come here a light up the league - He will cost the club @1.7m in transfer fee and he is without doubt here to be off from the start - Another interview Lee said that representatives were at the Asian Cup final from the club so I think the research has been done - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 We'd all like him to get straight in there and start scoring, but he's just completed a full season in the J league, he played over 30 games. I'd imagine he'd want and need a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 (edited) We'd all like him to get straight in there and start scoring, but he's just completed a full season in the J league, he played over 30 games. I'd imagine he'd want and need a break! I've been working for 25 years and the most I get off in one chunk is 2 weeks. I'm sure someone as fit as a young(ish) professional footballer can cope with the toils of playing football without a 6 week break. IMHO of course. Edited 5 January, 2012 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 (edited) I've been working for 25 years and the most I get off in one chunck is 2 weeks. I'm sure someone as fit as a young(ish) professional footballer can cope with the toils of playing football without a 6 week break. IMHO of course. You'd hope so, but tell that to the England team come world cup time... Back on topic; this is his official blog http://ameblo.jp/lee-tadanari/ Its obviously in Japanese, but can be translated easily on firefox. It says his nickname is Chunson (which can be seen on the back of his shirts) and he's blood type O! Edited 5 January, 2012 by Macey_J2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 this guy is 27 I read that Tadanari Lee was born in Tokyo on December 19th 1985 - which would make him 25 and almost 13 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 January, 2012 Share Posted 5 January, 2012 I've been working for 25 years and the most I get off in one chunck is 2 weeks. I'm sure someone as fit as a young(ish) professional footballer can cope with the toils of playing football without a 6 week break. IMHO of course. Its the endless grind of the season which is so taxing rather than the length of the close season imo. They dont get to do many of the things you and I take for granted during the year. When the club is playing two games a week they are training at least six days out seven, on and off coaches and hotel rooms - even training Christmas day. No part of their week is guaranteed time off, they can be called in at any time and cant ever take weekends aways. My performance would drop off after a fews weeks on that schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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