S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Just seen that he has done some Japanese Nike adverts! Must be quite a big name over there then. Think this could really be a coup. Will reserve judgement until he has played though. He has alot of adapting to do. He's got quite a following over there. In terms of popularity and the external revenue this could bring, it's probably our highest profile signing for years. Let's hope he's the real deal on the pitch though, and after reading the comments of people who watch him I feel quite positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 He's got quite a following over there. In terms of popularity and the external revenue this could bring, it's probably our highest profile signing for years. Let's hope he's the real deal on the pitch though, and after reading the comments of people who watch him I feel quite positive. agree...just I hope he hits the ground running.....cant really wait for 3 months+ of bedding in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 agree...just I hope he hits the ground running.....cant really wait for 3 months+ of bedding in... Totally agree with that. But it's good that we've got him training with us already, even before the work permit - so at least we have a bit of time there. I don't think this will be our only attacking addition either, just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjay7 Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Marek Saganowskis record wasnt too bad when he arrived in January without previous UK experience...... Southampton (Loan) 31 Jan, 07 16 May, 07 Loan App 13 (2) Gls 10 It was after this period when he was less prolific. If Lee does sign and scores just one crucial goal that takes us up (much like Jonno quick did) i will be happy but a return similar to MS and i will be over the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 To those in the know....where would you put this chap in the relative pecking order of English international strikers. I assume we're not talking Rooney level (I.e. Number one in their respective country) but are we talking, say, Defoe? Bent? Walcott? Someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 To those in the know....where would you put this chap in the relative pecking order of English international strikers. I assume we're not talking Rooney level (I.e. Number one in their respective country) but are we talking, say, Defoe? Bent? Walcott? Someone else? No one here knows trousers, I think its safe to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 No one here knows trousers, I think its safe to say. But I think he may be setting the sights a weeny bit high in citing Defoe,Bent and Walcott. A megastar in the making....maybe....a free transfer....certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Or a slight variation: Lee Lee wherever you maybe Buying used panties from a vending machine Could be worse Could be a skate F**king your sister on your council estate And yes its a stereotype about Japanese being pervs and the eclectic range of vending machines you'll find in Shinjuku and Shibuya[/quote Change the second line to Scoring goals in a new country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 But I think he may be setting the sights a weeny bit high in citing Defoe,Bent and Walcott. A megastar in the making....maybe....a free transfer....certainly. The free transfer thing is interesting. As is South Today saying he's here for ten days to train. Not heard either of those in other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 The free transfer thing is interesting. As is South Today saying he's here for ten days to train. Not heard either of those in other sources. here's the free transfer bit, top of the article "libre de tout contrat" http://www.footmercato.net/europa-league/info-fm-un-serial-buteur-japonais-attise-la-convoitise-en-ligue-1-publication-asap-ce-week-end_77828 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 But I think he may be setting the sights a weeny bit high in citing Defoe,Bent and Walcott. A megastar in the making....maybe....a free transfer....certainly. Are you saying he's definitely a free transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Are you saying he's definitely a free transfer? see above,the writer of that article says he's out of contract within days,I suppose that means on 31st December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 But I think he may be setting the sights a weeny bit high in citing Defoe,Bent and Walcott. A megastar in the making....maybe....a free transfer....certainly. I probably didn't ask the question clearly enough. I'm not asking which English international he's as good as, rather, where is he in the striker pecking order in his country. For example, if Defoe is 3rd choice striker in England and this chap is 3rd choice striker in Japan, then that's what I'm looking to compare, not a direct skill comparison but a relative one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 here's the free transfer bit, top of the article "libre de tout contrat" http://www.footmercato.net/europa-league/info-fm-un-serial-buteur-japonais-attise-la-convoitise-en-ligue-1-publication-asap-ce-week-end_77828 Yes, and yet we've even had exact numbers in terms of a fee being reported. One of them is wrong anyway. If he's been on this trip around Europe as our friend in France says, one wonders if he's done that with his agent because he's out of contract and weighing up his options, having set his heart on a move to Europe. As far as I remember, no one else has said he's here for ten days. South Today said that, and I happen to know they get first dibs on information. I probably didn't ask the question clearly enough. I'm not asking which English international he's as good as, rather, where is he in the striker pecking order in his country. For example, if Defoe is 3rd choice striker in England and this chap is 3rd choice striker in Japan, then that's what I'm looking to compare, not a direct skill comparison but a relative one. First choice I was led to believe, playing up front on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 First choice I was led to believe, playing up front on his own. Doesn't look like that based on number of appearances? Only played 9 games for the national side at the age of 26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Doesn't look like that based on number of appearances? Only played 9 games for the national side at the age of 26? I thought I read somewhere that he was the first choice and played up front on his own - I may be wrong of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I thought I read somewhere that he was the first choice and played up front on his own - I may be wrong of course. Maybe he's just broken into the side and made the role his own. F*****d if I know to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Am I the only one that thinks this transfer deal is all about selling shirts in Japan (and maybe Korea as well)? I'm just not convinced a player used to the J League will give us what we need in the English Championship to get us promoted - or that he'll cope with the speed and physicality of the Premier League is we ever get back there either. I can see him frustrating the crowd in the same way that Do Prado does now. I'd be much happier if we were signing Lucas Juktiewitz who has proved he can get goals in the Championship for a bad team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Am I the only one that thinks this transfer deal is all about selling shirts in Japan (and maybe Korea as well)? I'm just not convinced a player used to the J League will give us what we need in the English Championship to get us promoted - or that he'll cope with the speed and physicality of the Premier League is we ever get back there either. I can see him frustrating the crowd in the same way that Do Prado does now. I'd be much happier if we were signing Lucas Juktiewitz who has proved he can get goals in the Championship for a bad team. You must of been one of them jos hooiveld haters? we dont want this celtic reject and now look at him? Give the chap a chance ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Am I the only one that thinks this transfer deal is all about selling shirts in Japan (and maybe Korea as well)? I'm just not convinced a player used to the J League will give us what we need in the English Championship to get us promoted - or that he'll cope with the speed and physicality of the Premier League is we ever get back there either. I can see him frustrating the crowd in the same way that Do Prado does now. I'd be much happier if we were signing Lucas Juktiewitz who has proved he can get goals in the Championship for a bad team. Like a lot of others on this forum, you're narrow minded then. Would you turn down Messi on the basis he's not played in the Championship? PEOPLE, FOR GOD'S SAKE, LUKAS JUTKIEWICZ, BILLY SHARP, NICKY MAYNARD AND JAY RODRIGUEZ ARE NOT THE ONLY PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergoose Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I can see him frustrating the crowd in the same way that Do Prado does now. I'd be happy if he scores as many goals as Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Doesn't look like that based on number of appearances? Only played 9 games for the national side at the age of 26? Just out of interest, how many other players in our squad have played 9 times for their national side? And of those who has represented a side in the Top 20 of the FIFA Rankings? Jaidi has over 100 caps, for Tunisia ranked 59, Connolly also has caps for Ireland (ranked 22). I think thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Just out of interest, how many other players in our squad have played 9 times for their national side? And of those who has represented a side in the Top 20 of the FIFA Rankings? Jaidi has over 100 caps, for Tunisia ranked 59, Connolly also has caps for Ireland (ranked 22). I think thats it. Fox has played for Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I was sceptical about the Jos Hoovied signing I'll give you that - but then I'm a natural cynic - it seemed a bit last resort at the time from the outside where we all look in from - and our track record with players from Scotland hasn't been great. But I tried to keep and open mind and see what he could do on the pitch. I wasn't totally convinced after his first game where he seemed to head the ball up in the air a lot rather than out of the danger area - but he showed good touches on the ground and an ability to read the game. Second game he seemd to come to terms with the pace and physicality and has been great ever since. But he has turned out to be a great signing. His track record prior to Celtic was great so all in all we seem to have grabbed a bargain with Hoovied. I'll try and keep an open mind with Tandanari but his J League background and scoring record do make it a bit of a gamble - but I'd be happier with more of a proven goal scorer at Championship level. We have a real chance of getting promoted this season - now is the time to do everything we can to make it happen. We may not get another chance as good as this for a while. I'm not sure we're talking about a Messi here to be fair - besides we have our own in Lallana.! And I am sure most fans would agree what we need is a centre forward to lead the line right now! One question - why on this forum when someone expresses an opinion do people always respons with personal attacks, abuse or negative responses? Here's a challnge for you - try coming back with reasoned argument of a constructive response. I truly am hoping Tandanari will prove to be a great success on and off the pitch - and I do think its a great move by the club to tap in to the Japanese market - I'm just worried by our current run of form and lack of cover for Lambert given the way we play at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Forte for Barbados? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Fox has played for Scotland? Scotland?? Top 20 in FIFA rankings???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Scotland?? Top 20 in FIFA rankings???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol::lol: If you read the thread he lists which current Saints players have international caps. Which I've added to. Not hard to read is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I was sceptical about the Jos Hoovied signing I'll give you that - but then I'm a natural cynic - it seemed a bit last resort at the time from the outside where we all look in from - and our track record with players from Scotland hasn't been great. But I tried to keep and open mind and see what he could do on the pitch. I wasn't totally convinced after his first game where he seemed to head the ball up in the air a lot rather than out of the danger area - but he showed good touches on the ground and an ability to read the game. Second game he seemd to come to terms with the pace and physicality and has been great ever since. But he has turned out to be a great signing. His track record prior to Celtic was great so all in all we seem to have grabbed a bargain with Hoovied. I'll try and keep an open mind with Tandanari but his J League background and scoring record do make it a bit of a gamble - but I'd be happier with more of a proven goal scorer at Championship level. We have a real chance of getting promoted this season - now is the time to do everything we can to make it happen. We may not get another chance as good as this for a while. I'm not sure we're talking about a Messi here to be fair - besides we have our own in Lallana.! And I am sure most fans would agree what we need is a centre forward to lead the line right now! One question - why on this forum when someone expresses an opinion do people always respons with personal attacks, abuse or negative responses? Here's a challnge for you - try coming back with reasoned argument of a constructive response. I truly am hoping Tandanari will prove to be a great success on and off the pitch - and I do think its a great move by the club to tap in to the Japanese market - I'm just worried by our current run of form and lack of cover for Lambert given the way we play at the moment. some good points there, but i just hate people who put a player down before they even had a chance to put the shirt on. And yes its a gamble but we trust nigel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Scotland?? Top 20 in FIFA rankings???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol::lol: He didn't claim they were. What are you laughing about? I fail to see anything even remotely funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 If this guy starts banging them in then its another coup for Cortese a la Guly. Very excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Just out of interest, how many other players in our squad have played 9 times for their national side? And of those who has represented a side in the Top 20 of the FIFA Rankings? Jaidi has over 100 caps, for Tunisia ranked 59, Connolly also has caps for Ireland (ranked 22). I think thats it. 9 times at the age of 26 isn't great to be fair - and his league scoring record is no better than players like Rodriguez and Juktiewitz - and nowhere near as good as Maynard and Sharp. I'm not sure the J League is a great standard either - a lot of players still go there for a last pay day. I can't imagine its as high a standard as the Championship to be honest. Also FIFA rankings aren't necessarily a great guide - Japan probably are the best team in Asia - but that's probably carried them up the rankings a bit. I'm not sure they would be so high if they played teams from Europe, South America or Africa more regularly. Don't forget England are highly ranked by FIFA at the moment and I think most of us would agree that's probably more than a bit misleading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 He didn't claim they were. What are you laughing about? I fail to see anything even remotely funny. One of the many nerds on here mate. Going way off topic, I'd back Scotland to give Japan a game if the two ever met, the rankings mean f**k all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Like a lot of others on this forum, you're narrow minded then. Would you turn down Messi on the basis he's not played in the Championship? PEOPLE, FOR GOD'S SAKE, LUKAS JUTKIEWICZ, BILLY SHARP, NICKY MAYNARD AND JAY RODRIGUEZ ARE NOT THE ONLY PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. If Lallana is any measure, I reckon Messi would get found out pretty quickly. It's not as if Tadanari is a known quantity with a track record of european and international football against reputable sides anyway. Hands up who had even heard of the guy before he was linked to us. It's a punt at any level. Signing Sharp especially out of that group mentioned would be an investment in proven ability at this level and a reasonable punt for premier league potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 One question - why on this forum when someone expresses an opinion do people always respons with personal attacks, abuse or negative responses? Here's a challnge for you - try coming back with reasoned argument of a constructive response. I truly am hoping Tandanari will prove to be a great success on and off the pitch - and I do think its a great move by the club to tap in to the Japanese market - I'm just worried by our current run of form and lack of cover for Lambert given the way we play at the moment. I'm not on the attack, I just think you are being narrow minded. Again, it frustrates the hell out of me to hear someone automatically go "I'd like us to sign Jutkiewicz". He's not the only player in the world, as I said. Guly and De Ridder's signings proved that we're looking outside of this country and we've got no problem doing so. You've immediately asked if people think, like you, that it's all about shirt sales. Just because he's from Japan, he's automatically a PR signing? Not an entirely sensible thing to say. From just watching some clips on YouTube, you're wondering if he's got the physical attributes that you believe are required over here. The amount of effort that goes into scouting a player is incredible, especially when they're playing on the other side of the world. Do you, or anyone else, honestly think that a possible signing like this which you are quite right, comes with a level of risk, hasn't been done without a great deal of consideration? As for frustrating a crowd like Guly, it's possible. What I would say is that Guly has been over here for a full year, more than that, and has had ample enough time to settle in and we know for a fact he can play well, but a lot of the time he still does stupid things or goes missing. Given this guy has been in the country a matter of hours, I'm not sure it's fair to make assumptions like that. As for taking my Messi mention seriously, come on. You know I'm not saying this guy is Messi. I am saying that Championship experience is not a be all and end all. There are a hell of a lot of players out there that have played in the Championship and been utter crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 probably not much more actually, not basic.Lallana isn't a full international.IMO there was not a chance of Lallana signing a 5 year deal with us for less than £25k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 If Lallana is any measure, I reckon Messi would get found out pretty quickly. It's not as if Tadanari is a known quantity with a track record of european and international football against reputable sides anyway. Hands up who had even heard of the guy before he was linked to us. It's a punt at any level. Signing Sharp especially out of that group mentioned would be an investment in proven ability at this level and a reasonable punt for premier league potential. My point being that there are SO many others just like that, waiting to be signed up, but the fact is when our supporters hear us linked with someone like him or any of the names I pointed out, that's it - football may as well never continue, the world may as well stop turning, these are the only players out there. It is NOT the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I was sceptical about the Jos Hoovied signing I'll give you that - but then I'm a natural cynic - it seemed a bit last resort at the time from the outside where we all look in from - and our track record with players from Scotland hasn't been great. But I tried to keep and open mind and see what he could do on the pitch. I wasn't totally convinced after his first game where he seemed to head the ball up in the air a lot rather than out of the danger area - but he showed good touches on the ground and an ability to read the game. Second game he seemd to come to terms with the pace and physicality and has been great ever since. But he has turned out to be a great signing. His track record prior to Celtic was great so all in all we seem to have grabbed a bargain with Hoovied. I'll try and keep an open mind with Tandanari but his J League background and scoring record do make it a bit of a gamble - but I'd be happier with more of a proven goal scorer at Championship level. We have a real chance of getting promoted this season - now is the time to do everything we can to make it happen. We may not get another chance as good as this for a while. I'm not sure we're talking about a Messi here to be fair - besides we have our own in Lallana.! And I am sure most fans would agree what we need is a centre forward to lead the line right now! One question - why on this forum when someone expresses an opinion do people always respons with personal attacks, abuse or negative responses? Here's a challnge for you - try coming back with reasoned argument of a constructive response. I truly am hoping Tandanari will prove to be a great success on and off the pitch - and I do think its a great move by the club to tap in to the Japanese market - I'm just worried by our current run of form and lack of cover for Lambert given the way we play at the moment. Actually, I fully understand where you are coming from with this. I never knocked Jos when he signed and I always give every new Saints signing a chance to prove himself before making judgement. However, I also would feel a lot more confident if we were to sign a proven goal scorer in this division (or one of a higher standard). Having said that, I hope his clearance comes through quickly and that I get to see him score on his home debut against Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Just out of interest, how many other players in our squad have played 9 times for their national side? And of those who has represented a side in the Top 20 of the FIFA Rankings? Jaidi has over 100 caps, for Tunisia ranked 59, Connolly also has caps for Ireland (ranked 22). I think thats it. If you read the thread he lists which current Saints players have international caps. Which I've added to. Not hard to read is it. He didn't claim they were. What are you laughing about? I fail to see anything even remotely funny. Original at the top - I would say it is you two who can't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 If Lallana is any measure, I reckon Messi would get found out pretty quickly. It's not as if Tadanari is a known quantity with a track record of european and international football against reputable sides anyway. Hands up who had even heard of the guy before he was linked to us. It's a punt at any level. Signing Sharp especially out of that group mentioned would be an investment in proven ability at this level and a reasonable punt for premier league potential. I disagree, if you consider how bad he was when he had a chance with Sheffield United (at the time a better team than the one he was leaving), Billy Sharp has only really proven himself to be comfortable as a big fish in a small pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 One of the many nerds on here mate. Going way off topic, I'd back Scotland to give Japan a game if the two ever met, the rankings mean f**k all. Nerd? :lol: Anyway, rather that than a billy big balls keyboard warrior, look at me I'm well 'ard, type like some twonks on here.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Original at the top - I would say it is you two who can't read. I can read perfectly well thanks. Pipe down you dweeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 If this guy starts banging them in then its another coup for Cortese a la Guly. Very excited! Guly is sh/t, always has been. He adds nothing to the team, but scores a few because the others carry him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 my mate is the gardener at Staplewood and he was asked to plant Bonzai trees around the training pitches today so it is good to see the club are making him feel at home. however, after watching the bridge over the river kwai the other day i don't want to see any Japanese flags popping up at st marys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Guly is sh/t, always has been. He adds nothing to the team, but scores a few because the others carry him. Hummmm not sure about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Original at the top - I would say it is you two who can't read. the original clearly asks two seperate questions, one who has played for their national side, the rankings is seperate, so what the f*ck are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 my mate is the gardener at Staplewood and he was asked to plant Bonzai trees around the training pitches today so it is good to see the club are making him feel at home. however, after watching the bridge over the river kwai the other day i don't want to see any Japanese flags popping up at st marys. wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Hummmm not sure about that Yes, Serie A players are crap, and persuading one to play for us in L1 against Dagenham should be met with boos and calls for a taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 I disagree, if you consider how bad he was when he had a chance with Sheffield United (at the time a better team than the one he was leaving), Billy Sharp has only really proven himself to be comfortable as a big fish in a small pond. Arguable. Could just as well have been bad player handling though. He was still young at the time and Beattie was their main man up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Arguable. Could just as well have been bad player handling though. He was still young at the time and Beattie was their main man up front. Twice though? They paid £2 million to bring him back after his stint at S****horpe, having let him go for nothing, then decided to let him go again for half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 4 January, 2012 Share Posted 4 January, 2012 Guly is sh/t, always has been. He adds nothing to the team, but scores a few because the others carry him. that is EXACTLY what I shouted at him after he got that lucky late winner against bristol rovers last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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