Turkish Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I'll probably have a lot of you happy clappy mugs up in arms about this but it is quite clearly a problem. Todays performance lacked energy and vigor. It looked like some of the players were suffering from hangovers. Now whilst i accept it's unlikey that they were on the booze last night it is a well known and scientifically proven fact that a night on the ale takes 3-4 days to get out of the system. For a proffesional athelete to be back in peak condition its going to take at least if not more than this. Now think although RL was apparantly not involved in the dust up in Baddesley on monday night, he was by all accounts drinking in the pub from 6pm and the dust up was at 11-11.30, 5 hours of drinking a few days before an important championship match. Igonring todays performance we now have in the last year 3 high profile drink related inciedents involving our players and violence in the last 12 months. Im not for one minute saying that men in their 20's shouldnt be allowed to go out an enjoy themselves, in fact i think it's great on a saturday night when there is no game for a week to see them out enjoying themselves. IN the case of RL it was great to hear he was in a local boozer, well though of and liked and drinking with locals rather than some c*nt spenidng £3k on a bottle of champagne in a trendy London club. The great thing about footballers in the ole days was that they could relate to the working man. However there does seem to be a drinking culture at SMS which seems to be a problem, 3 incidents in a year, i can never remember any club having that many, least of all us. It does seem to be a problem, Previous managers have had curfews. Fergie did it with Man United and that is what got Lee Sharpe kicked out, it didn't do United a problem, but it did Lee Sharpe whose career burnt out not long after, which one was right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 So how do you account for all the matches we've won this year? Is it because Lambert stayed in and watched Coronation Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Surely being top of the league means the drinking culture is a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Exactly the responses i expected. 3 high profile drink and violence related incidents in 12 months. All because our players are like church mice off the pitch right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Surely being top of the league means the drinking culture is a good thing? If we continue to average a pint sorry a point a game like we have in December, we aint gonna be there much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampot Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I am sure Gully has a couple 15 mins before kick off most games ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Im not for one minute saying that men in their 20's shouldnt be allowed to go out an enjoy themselves, in fact i think it's great on a saturday night when there is no game for a week to see them out enjoying themselves. I don't think any supposed professional footballer should drink more than an occasional pint or glass of wine. They are getting paid exhorbitant amounts and they should be contractually forced to abstain from drinking and if they don't like it they should play non league because they are not professional sportsmen in this day and age. Adkins needs to do his job and sort this out like Strachan did. The players are not assets, they are expenses - f/cking expenses to ever fan who gets ripped off to pay these prima donnas stupid money so they can live like kings while everyone struggles to make ends meet. I have no sympathy at all, if they don't like they should try doing a real days work in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I'll probably have a lot of you happy clappy mugs up in arms about this but it is quite clearly a problem. Todays performance lacked energy and vigor. It looked like some of the players were suffering from hangovers. Now whilst i accept it's unlikey that they were on the booze last night it is a well known and scientifically proven fact that a night on the ale takes 3-4 days to get out of the system. For a proffesional athelete to be back in peak condition its going to take at least if not more than this. Now think although RL was apparantly not involved in the dust up in Baddesley on monday night, he was by all accounts drinking in the pub from 6pm and the dust up was at 11-11.30, 5 hours of drinking a few days before an important championship match. Igonring todays performance we now have in the last year 3 high profile drink related inciedents involving our players and violence in the last 12 months. Im not for one minute saying that men in their 20's shouldnt be allowed to go out an enjoy themselves, in fact i think it's great on a saturday night when there is no game for a week to see them out enjoying themselves. IN the case of RL it was great to hear he was in a local boozer, well though of and liked and drinking with locals rather than some c*nt spenidng £3k on a bottle of champagne in a trendy London club. The great thing about footballers in the ole days was that they could relate to the working man. However there does seem to be a drinking culture at SMS which seems to be a problem, 3 incidents in a year, i can never remember any club having that many, least of all us. It does seem to be a problem, Previous managers have had curfews. Fergie did it with Man United and that is what got Lee Sharpe kicked out, it didn't do United a problem, but it did Lee Sharpe whose career burnt out not long after, which one was right?? Plagiarism rules on UI then Stu ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Turkish, you cant count the Lambert incident because he apparently wasnt involved. For all you know he was on tonic water all night. But the Seaborne and Barnard incidents may indicate an off-pitch discipline problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I had exactly the same thoughts as the OP after reading about Rickie's "incident" on Monday. 5 hours drinking after a game cannot be right for a professional athlete. I thoroughly enjoy a good drink but I am not a professional sportsman dependant on a fit body for my living. That C u n t Redkrap was right the other day when he refused his team their Christmas party saying that they had plenty of time to party in their summer break and that they needed to concentrate on their football. Last night was not the first time this season that a good performance has been swiftly followed by a disappointing one. We were poor at Reading after we had that great result against West Ham. Our performance against Middlesborough was amazing and wewere on a high after the 25 pass goal in the last few minutes but we followed that up by being lack lustre against Peterborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Turkish, you cant count the Lambert incident because he apparently wasnt involved. For all you know he was on tonic water all night. Reports did say that the amount of lager that Ricky was drinking was a source of amusement to some of the locals in the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Reports did say that the amount of lager that Ricky was drinking was a source of amusement to some of the locals in the pub. Fair enough. Didnt see that in the report I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Turkish, you cant count the Lambert incident because he apparently wasnt involved. For all you know he was on tonic water all night. But the Seaborne and Barnard incidents may indicate an off-pitch discipline problem. A witness said the incident was started by a local saying Lambert would be out for 6 months the amount he was drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 A witness said the incident was started by a local saying Lambert would be out for 6 months the amount he was drinking. Very disappointing that Rickie is so lacking in professionality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Exactly the responses i expected. 3 high profile drink and violence related incidents in 12 months. All because our players are like church mice off the pitch right? To be fair one of the 3 didn't involve our player directly, also it may be worth mentioning that maybe its the yoof in our fair city that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 A witness said the incident was started by a local saying Lambert would be out for 6 months the amount he was drinking. You can safely ignore that. The punch up was started by a well known baddesley family of skates, i'll email you the details. And rickie wasnt involved or plssed up, his lot got him away from the scene as soon as it kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 We'll drink when we want we'll drink when we want we are southampton we'll drink when we want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchris23 Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 We're talking about young men here. Young men drink. I was in a nightclub and a strip club in Bournemouth a couple of weeks ago with my group of friends and also in the VIP area were Sheff Utd and a few weeks before that was Coventry City. Our table, like theirs, had numerous bottles of alcohol. They, like me, were just letting off steam. Seeing 'some' of the players as battered as they were did make me wonder why they needed to get so inebriated. But then if you were playing for those teams then you'd probably be hitting the bottle too. All in all, nothing to worry about....because we can't do anything about it. Just like your boss can't stop you drinking 'responsibly' outside of working hours. When they notice that the player has an issue, it's dealt with. You don't really think players are always injured do you???? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I can't believe so many of you still bite when Turkish has his fishing rod out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Bl00dy hell, if you think there's a problem here now may I remind some of our younger viewers of the "ale house boozers" from the 70's. Big John McGrath, Jim Steele et al, now they REALLY knew how to sink a pint or several. Not that I'm condoning that but the present players are positively lightweight in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 For your information Turkey, I was in the pub with Lambert and I believe his lame performance yesterday was down to wind as he downed 7 glasses of coke. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I don't think any supposed professional footballer should drink more than an occasional pint or glass of wine. They are getting paid exhorbitant amounts and they should be contractually forced to abstain from drinking and if they don't like it they should play non league because they are not professional sportsmen in this day and age. Adkins needs to do his job and sort this out like Strachan did. The players are not assets, they are expenses - f/cking expenses to ever fan who gets ripped off to pay these prima donnas stupid money so they can live like kings while everyone struggles to make ends meet. I have no sympathy at all, if they don't like they should try doing a real days work in the real world. For once I agree with everything Dunely has said. We're talking about young men here. Young men drink. Not all young men drink. If a sportsman is serious about his well paid career he should be prepared to forgo getting ratted during the season. You never hear of athletes, rowers, cyclists etc going out on the lash & these are sportsmen who get paid a lot less than our pampered stars, but take their training regime a lot more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 For once I agree with everything Dunely has said. Not all young men drink. If a sportsman is serious about his well paid career he should be prepared to forgo getting ratted during the season. You never hear of athletes, rowers, cyclists etc going out on the lash & these are sportsmen who get paid a lot less than our pampered stars, but take their training regime a lot more seriously. Thats true. Rickie ought to take a leaf out of rooneys book and plss away a few hundred grand on owens bookie firm. Its the only decent thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 You never hear of athletes, rowers, cyclists. Corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I'll probably have a lot of you happy clappy mugs up in arms about this but it is quite clearly a problem. Todays performance lacked energy and vigor. It looked like some of the players were suffering from hangovers. Now whilst i accept it's unlikey that they were on the booze last night it is a well known and scientifically proven fact that a night on the ale takes 3-4 days to get out of the system. For a proffesional athelete to be back in peak condition its going to take at least if not more than this. Now think although RL was apparantly not involved in the dust up in Baddesley on monday night, he was by all accounts drinking in the pub from 6pm and the dust up was at 11-11.30, 5 hours of drinking a few days before an important championship match. Igonring todays performance we now have in the last year 3 high profile drink related inciedents involving our players and violence in the last 12 months. Im not for one minute saying that men in their 20's shouldnt be allowed to go out an enjoy themselves, in fact i think it's great on a saturday night when there is no game for a week to see them out enjoying themselves. IN the case of RL it was great to hear he was in a local boozer, well though of and liked and drinking with locals rather than some c*nt spenidng £3k on a bottle of champagne in a trendy London club. The great thing about footballers in the ole days was that they could relate to the working man. However there does seem to be a drinking culture at SMS which seems to be a problem, 3 incidents in a year, i can never remember any club having that many, least of all us. It does seem to be a problem, Previous managers have had curfews. Fergie did it with Man United and that is what got Lee Sharpe kicked out, it didn't do United a problem, but it did Lee Sharpe whose career burnt out not long after, which one was right??Jesus. Mods you need to delete this thread. Turkish I hope the club read this and track you down, this is complete sladerous bollix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 what a bollix thread based on total speculation. then again it is turdish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I'll probably have a lot of you happy clappy mugs up in arms about this but it is quite clearly a problem. Todays performance lacked energy and vigor. It looked like some of the players were suffering from hangovers. Now whilst i accept it's unlikey that they were on the booze last night it is a well known and scientifically proven fact that a night on the ale takes 3-4 days to get out of the system. For a proffesional athelete to be back in peak condition its going to take at least if not more than this. Now think although RL was apparantly not involved in the dust up in Baddesley on monday night, he was by all accounts drinking in the pub from 6pm and the dust up was at 11-11.30, 5 hours of drinking a few days before an important championship match. Igonring todays performance we now have in the last year 3 high profile drink related inciedents involving our players and violence in the last 12 months. Im not for one minute saying that men in their 20's shouldnt be allowed to go out an enjoy themselves, in fact i think it's great on a saturday night when there is no game for a week to see them out enjoying themselves. IN the case of RL it was great to hear he was in a local boozer, well though of and liked and drinking with locals rather than some c*nt spenidng £3k on a bottle of champagne in a trendy London club. The great thing about footballers in the ole days was that they could relate to the working man. However there does seem to be a drinking culture at SMS which seems to be a problem, 3 incidents in a year, i can never remember any club having that many, least of all us. It does seem to be a problem, Previous managers have had curfews. Fergie did it with Man United and that is what got Lee Sharpe kicked out, it didn't do United a problem, but it did Lee Sharpe whose career burnt out not long after, which one was right?? What a load of utter ******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 what a bollix thread based on total speculation. then again it is turdish... Are you saying the Barnard and Lambert incidents weren't drink related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Are you saying the Barnard and Lambert incidents weren't drink related? There is no evidence to say, apart from Rich sh it stirring, that Barnard or Lambert were ****ed. Stop being such a sh it stirring cu nt just for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 There is no evidence to say, apart from Rich sh it stirring, that Barnard or Lambert were ****ed. Stop being such a sh it stirring cu nt just for the sake of it. You're the one talking sh/t, as per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 For a minute then I thought I'd stumbled on to the Ugly Inside board and been accosted by Stu and his self obsessed ramblings. His lack of self awareness seems to be rubbing off on a few others. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 For a minute then I thought I'd stumbled on to the Ugly Inside board and been accosted by Stu and his self obsessed ramblings. His lack of self awareness seems to be rubbing off on a few others. LOL The "voice of the fans" rivalry between you two on here used to be amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 For a minute then I thought I'd stumbled on to the Ugly Inside board and been accosted by Stu and his self obsessed ramblings. His lack of self awareness seems to be rubbing off on a few others. LOL whats sturomsey posting under here now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Jesus. Mods you need to delete this thread. Turkish I hope the club read this and track you down, this is complete sladerous bollix. How is any of it slanderous? Do you or do you not agree that it is worrying that 3 of our players have been linked to drink related violence in the last year. And to those of you blaming local chavs, yeah we so have a lot of lemons about but they were still there when Pardew, Pearson, even the Dutch mugs. No accounts of this sort of thing then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 January, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 January, 2012 So let me get this right. Liam Lawrence is involved in drink related violence and he is a thug. Our players are and they are victims of a Southampton nightlifes Chav culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Just driven passed the Pub formerley known as The Baddesley Arms it is now called The Punch and Guly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Can anyone provide irrefutable facts to support the rumours/gossip etc in relation to the events involving Lambert and Barnard? I have yet to see anything to support the decision by some that both Lambert and Barnard were p1ssed, yes Seaborne was and he is paying the price. There is much talk about how many hours players spend in a club/pub but how much are they actually drinking? Can anyone provide proof of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 How is any of it slanderous? Do you or do you not agree that it is worrying that 3 of our players have been linked to drink related violence in the last year. And to those of you blaming local chavs, yeah we so have a lot of lemons about but they were still there when Pardew, Pearson, even the Dutch mugs. No accounts of this sort of thing then. I could easily recount tales from Joe Jordan letting rip in the Bedfords, Hurlock going mental in Captains Corner, Agboola getting put on his ar5e outside Boogies, Beattie being being dragged indoors by Davies and escaping a hiding outside his house in Ocean Village, Dyer and BWP getting nicked, McGoaldrought and his amazing flying kebab, Prutton being hurried away and escaping a battering for his letchy ways, Bridge and others giving it the big un in The Lizard Lounge, I won't even repeat what went on in Ayia Napa with half the squad a few weeks after Lampard and Rio were spit roasting girls. The idea that only now do we have a drinking culture is bedwetting stuff. It's been going on for years as young(ish) lads are treated like royalty, paid like bankers and worshipped like Idols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I could easily recount tales from Joe Jordan letting rip in the Bedfords, Hurlock going mental in Captains Corner, Agboola getting put on his ar5e outside Boogies, Beattie being being dragged indoors by Davies and escaping a hiding outside his house in Ocean Village, Dyer and BWP getting nicked, McGoaldrought and his amazing flying kebab, Prutton being hurried away and escaping a battering for his letchy ways, Bridge and others giving it the big un in The Lizard Lounge, I won't even repeat what went on in Ayia Napa with half the squad a few weeks after Lampard and Rio were spit roasting girls. The idea that only now do we have a drinking culture is bedwetting stuff. It's been going on for years as young(ish) lads are treated like royalty, paid like bankers and worshipped like Idols.** True it's nothing new, there was even a website called "Players on the pîss" or something like that where we had a few of ours on display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 It's nothing new, but I don't think it should be tolerated in this day and age when fans are paying through the roof to pay them premium wages. They are a disgrace when put alongside true sporting professionals such as those representing us in the Olympics who struggle to raise funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I know the argument is "We're top of the league, so what does it matter" and "they're young lads, so should be able to have a good drink", but in this day and age, when there is so much emphasis on recovery times after games, rehydration and having that extra 1% over opponents, I'm surprised that our players are out on the **** so often and we're not just talking a couple of quiet pints here, but necking back Jaeger bombs etc in the early hours of the morning, especially after the Barnard and Seaborne incidents, you would have thought they'd have been encouraged to just knock it on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I think a few beers help players unwind and relax. They may just be kicking a ball around but professional football is a high-pressure job. If you or I have a bad day at work we don't look like a c*nt on national TV, or have 30,000 shout abuse at us. I think whilst having a few beers might have a negaive physical effect the positive effects can outweigh them. Anyway, IF there is a drinking culture at Saints it is obviously working as we are top of the league. You can't just highlight it as a problem after a few bad results, it wasn't a problem when we were smashing teams all over the place a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Very disappointing that Rickie is so lacking in professionality... What the **** is professionality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 What the **** is professionality? professionalism on the other side of the Atlantic probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Just driven passed the Pub formerley known as The Baddesley Arms it is now called The Punch and Guly! Or the Puncheon Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 What the **** is professionality? Thanks for pointing out my bad English. I meant professionalism, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 So let me get this straight, Rickie went out with his family and is therefore not professional? Footballers are paid to do a job the same as every other person who also goes out drinking. Why should that mean football fans can complain about their behaviour as we all know the money we pay does not cover their wages by itself? Surely it is down to the employer to decide if there is a problem and not some fans who obviously do not have all the facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Utter nonsense thread Get a grip people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/dec/31/new-year-football-drinking-excess Timely article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 You can safely ignore that. The punch up was started by a well known baddesley family of skates, i'll email you the details. And rickie wasnt involved or plssed up, his lot got him away from the scene as soon as it kicked off. I hope the rest of Baddesley are regularly shoving dog poo through their front door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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