Cestrian Saint Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 (edited) Chipsy was a squirrel. Edited 10 April, 2012 by Cestrian Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Have you considered every other team in this league has a worse record in 2011/12? Saints have more points than all of them, so why should any of them get in the top 2 ahead of Saints if you are basing it on previous games this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 The vast majority of people on this forum live in la la land. Why can people not be realistic and look at the facts? Yes we're in a far better position than we all expected to be at this time but look at the bigger picture. Our away form is poor. Defeats at Bristol City, Doncaster, Leicester and Cardiff. Draws at Derby, Barnsley, Reading & P*mpey. Based on this form and looking at the remaining away fixtures do people really think we'll be in the top 2 at the end of the season? We've got to go to Leeds, Boro, WHU, Blackpool, Brighton & Birmingham. From those 6 fixtures we'll be lucky to get 6 points. Then there's away games at the likes of Hull, Forest, Palace and Watford. Given they we've been unable to beat teams in the bottom 3 I really don't see us getting more than 10 points from all of our remaining away fixtures in 2012. I await the onslaught from people who disagree with this, but if you look at the facts it's very hard to see how the second half of our season can be anywhere near as good as the first. Apart from Blackpool we've already beaten all the teams in bold this season. I quite like that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 30 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2011 (edited) Squibberdy jip flibbert. Edited 10 April, 2012 by Cestrian Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Yes I have considered that and many of those teams have got the difficult away fixtures out of the way where as we still have to go to places like Boro, WHU & Brum. If we were beating teams away from home like we've done at home then I'd feel a whole lot more confident but as I said, look at the big picture. We can't beat teams in the bottom 3 away from home so how on earth are we going to beat the bigger and better teams on their soil? The next 2 away games will be very interesting. Brighton & Notts Forest. Anything more than a point from those 2 fixtures would be a very good result based on our lousy away form! Possibly because the likes of Boro and WHU will be expecting to try and win those games, as opposed to the likes of Doncaster not trying to lose them. Completely different types of game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Our away form is poor, yep. Has been all year really and we've kept our position based on our home form, now that's starting to slip (no surprise really). This month has been one to forget though. 5 points from 15 is no where near good enough, even if you're at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 30 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2011 (edited) Apart from Blackpool we've already beaten all the teams in bold this season. I quite like that fact. I like that fact too. But as I said, Paul Daniels pyjamas will never fit Tony Hibbert. Edited 10 April, 2012 by Cestrian Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I agree with the OP. I think January has come at the right time for us. We need to buy the right players in the right positions to help us kick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Have to agree with the OP - things are only going to get a whole lot tougher from here on in. This is the business end of the season - where you start means nothing, where you finish is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I do think the time has come to blow away all the complacency. We have quite a few problems to sort out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 The vast majority of people on this forum live in la la land. Why can people not be realistic and look at the facts? Yes we're in a far better position than we all expected to be at this time but look at the bigger picture. Our away form is poor. Defeats at Bristol City, Doncaster, Leicester and Cardiff. Draws at Derby, Barnsley, Reading & P*mpey. Based on this form and looking at the remaining away fixtures do people really think we'll be in the top 2 at the end of the season? We've got to go to Leeds, Boro, WHU, Blackpool, Brighton & Birmingham. From those 6 fixtures we'll be lucky to get 6 points. Then there's away games at the likes of Hull, Forest, Palace and Watford. Given they we've been unable to beat teams in the bottom 3 I really don't see us getting more than 10 points from all of our remaining away fixtures in 2012. I await the onslaught from people who disagree with this, but if you look at the facts it's very hard to see how the second half of our season can be anywhere near as good as the first. If our away form is poor facing better teams away won't make much difference. What's hurting now is that our home form and performances are dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 The vast majority of people on this forum live in la la land. Why can people not be realistic and look at the facts? Yes we're in a far better position than we all expected to be at this time but look at the bigger picture. Our away form is poor. Defeats at Bristol City, Doncaster, Leicester and Cardiff. Draws at Derby, Barnsley, Reading & P*mpey. Based on this form and looking at the remaining away fixtures do people really think we'll be in the top 2 at the end of the season? We've got to go to Leeds, Boro, WHU, Blackpool, Brighton & Birmingham. From those 6 fixtures we'll be lucky to get 6 points. Then there's away games at the likes of Hull, Forest, Palace and Watford. Given they we've been unable to beat teams in the bottom 3 I really don't see us getting more than 10 points from all of our remaining away fixtures in 2012. I await the onslaught from people who disagree with this, but if you look at the facts it's very hard to see how the second half of our season can be anywhere near as good as the first. That would give us 57 points, making us finish somewhere about 17th ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I do think the time has come to blow away all the complacency. We have quite a few problems to sort out. Crisis ? What Crisis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I think the reason your argument (OP) is flawed is if you looked at those results and the remaining fixtures and worked out how we as a club we do because of our previous record then football wouldn't be very exciting would it? Did you see us winning 5-2 at Ipswich Town? I didn't. Did you see us losing at Doncaster Rovers? Not really. Did anyone give us a chance of winning the FA Cup in 1976? Some pundits and professional footballers were predicting a 6-0 Manchester United win! You cannot tell what's going to happen - we might nose dive and hardly win another game this season (that's happened to clubs before) but also we might win 7-0 at Brighton and go on an amazing run that results in us walking the division - you just don't know. It's like the argument I've heard before many a time in all levels of football "Oh we beat them 3-0 away and you lost 1-0 at home to them so we're going to beat you easily". It just doesn't work out that way. That's why football is the game it is and people go to watch it. If you could work out the results after a quarter of the season why would you bother supporting any clubs except the most successful. If anyone could predict the future they'd be a multi millionaire by now. Let's see......I think you might be surprised by some results and disappointed by others. That much will be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 We beat barnsley away i think you will find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Why do people say 'face facts' then proceed to ignore the facts and pluck a bizarre opinion out of negative nowhere? You might find the answer in some of his posts if you go back a bit: Regarding our squad: "Too large with players who aren't capable of getting us out of the Championship." (July 23) "Leicester will walk the Championship." (June 27) "There is no way Saints will finish in the top 6. Lower half of the table is the best we can expect next season." (June 6) "Leicester champions. Saints somewhere between 16th & 20th." (May 22) It's just another example of the morons who claim to be supporters but make dire predictions and then spend the season hoping to be proven right. If I'm a "happy clappy" because I'm proud of what we've achieved and optimistic that we can stay there (despite some concerns), so be it. I'd rather be that than have to look at the world through the wrist slasher's eyes every day. A lot of today's posts remind me of the posts on last year's Walsall thread - and from many of the same people (not Hypo, though!). Perhaps we'll see this thread again some time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 That would give us 57 points, making us finish somewhere about 17th ! what...no more home games this season then? 17th...pffft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Two decent signings and premiership here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Should this thread be renamed, 'The negative so called Saints fans' thread? I'd hate to be on patrol with some of you chicken sh1ts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Sorry I'm just trying to enjoy the moment rather than face the "facts" that we will be awful for the second half of the season while all the teams around us will all be amazing..................I really don't know what people want if you can't enjoy being a saints fan at the moment when will you? If we do get back to the PL you can expect a lot more days feeling fed up after a losing than you have done the last two/three seasons so you might as well enjoy this season while you can (who knows when we might get another like it) rather than looking for the negatives all the time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Sorry I'm just trying to enjoy the moment rather than face the "facts" that we will be awful for the second half of the season while all the teams around us will all be amazing..................I really don't know what people want if you can't enjoy being a saints fan at the moment when will you? If we do get back to the PL you can expect a lot more days feeling fed up after a losing than you have done the last two/three seasons so you might as well enjoy this season while you can (who knows when we might get another like it) rather than looking for the negatives all the time...... Nail. On. Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Yes I have considered that and many of those teams have got the difficult away fixtures out of the way where as we still have to go to places like Boro, WHU & Brum. If we were beating teams away from home like we've done at home then I'd feel a whole lot more confident but as I said, look at the big picture. We can't beat teams in the bottom 3 away from home so how on earth are we going to beat the bigger and better teams on their soil? The next 2 away games will be very interesting. Brighton & Notts Forest. Anything more than a point from those 2 fixtures would be a very good result based on our lousy away form! You keep saying "look at the big picture". Surely the "big picture" includes both home and away form? Last night was a disappointing result, but we could just have easily have won 1-0 as lost 1-0. The "big picture" I look at is called the league table. We're still top. Stop worrying about what might happen get behind the team and see what does happen. COYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 We can't beat teams in the bottom 3 away from home so how on earth are we going to beat the bigger and better teams on their soil? We defeated Coventry 4-2, so that knocks your theory on the head. But don't let the facts get in the way, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 The OP is spot on. We've had the easy leg of our away fixtures. The next two months look horrific. We've done very well to start 2012 top of the league, but if we dont strengthen NOW (not the end of January) we are going to plummet down the table and out the other side of the playoff places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 The OP is spot on. We've had the easy leg of our away fixtures. The next two months look horrific. We've done very well to start 2012 top of the league, but if we dont strengthen NOW (not the end of January) we are going to plummet down the table and out the other side of the playoff places. Mid table for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 The OP is spot on. We've had the easy leg of our away fixtures. The next two months look horrific. We've done very well to start 2012 top of the league, but if we dont strengthen NOW (not the end of January) we are going to plummet down the table and out the other side of the playoff places. There's a shock, you agreeing with another negative poster! why don't you all fook off, and support a team that has the resources you seem to think we have...Man City beckons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 After half the season, our form is better than anyone else in the league. FACT - indisputable. We are top of the league and in a few hours we will still be joint top. We have had a poor December. We can now buy players to strengthen a team that is missing an in-form Lallana (say what you like, since his injury he is a yard off the pace and doesn't look quite match fit), Chaplow (a massive loss) and needs a pacey striking option and possibly a strong central midfield option. Why should our second half season form be worse than the first half? In both of our previous seasons we have had a very strong second half season. If you want to imagine the worst, go ahead. I'll take twelve points clear of seventh thanks. And look forward to the manager and Chairman strengthening a bloody good side with some decent options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I think the problem is two fold. In the past month we have hit a bad patch. I thought the way we played against Palace we had come through it. Hard to judge on last night's performance really. The second thing is that teams have clearly worked out how to play against us, how to close us down, where to attack us etc and the big test I think will be in the second half of the season wether we have a Plan B. If we have we will be fine and be in the play offs at least. If we haven't the top 6 will be touch and go and we could easily miss out. Big test for NA, the coaches and players but with one or two additions and the ability to mix it up a bit I remain confident we will have a good 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 You keep saying "look at the big picture". Surely the "big picture" includes both home and away form? Last night was a disappointing result, but we could just have easily have won 1-0 as lost 1-0. The "big picture" I look at is called the league table. We're still top. Stop worrying about what might happen get behind the team and see what does happen. COYS. Positive mental attitude ! Exactly what is required by the squad and the fans !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2011 (edited) Dalek2003 wrote: "That would give us 57 points, making us finish somewhere about 17th !" No it wouldn't! Once gain somebody fails to read the post correctly. I don't mention every remaining fixture, just 8 or 9. There's other games that we should definitely win so the points total won't be 57! If you read my posts you'll see that I predict we'll end up with about 78 points. Edited 31 December, 2011 by Cestrian Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2011 If we'd had to go to Birmingham, Leeds, WHU, Boro & Blackpool in the first half of the season do people really think we'd be top??? Really? Based on our away form? C'mon people. Wake up! Oh, Gingeless. I didn't realise that having an opinion ruled me out of being a Saints fan. If it makes you happy I'll go and support Spurs, if it's ok with you? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I think the problem is two fold. In the past month we have hit a bad patch. I thought the way we played against Palace we had come through it. Hard to judge on last night's performance really. The second thing is that teams have clearly worked out how to play against us, how to close us down, where to attack us etc and the big test I think will be in the second half of the season wether we have a Plan B. If we have we will be fine and be in the play offs at least. If we haven't the top 6 will be touch and go and we could easily miss out. Big test for NA, the coaches and players but with one or two additions and the ability to mix it up a bit I remain confident we will have a good 2012. We actually went for Plan B for the WHOLE of the second half last night. We went direct almost from kick-off. It still didn't work. Why?? A ref who wouldn't have given a rubber ring to a drowning man. Lambert and Guly too far apart. Losing out on the bounce almost every time (sometimes luck, sometimes bottling it). Bad luck in the box - how the hell we didn't at least hit the target given de Ridder's crosses is beyond me. It does show that Adkins won't always stick to the football on the ground. What we needed last night was a pacey forward we could have nicked it over the top to. Maye putting SDR through the middle would have been an idea?? But I'll trust in NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 That would give us 57 points, making us finish somewhere about 17th ! So we are only going to get another 10 points in our remaining games? You really are an odd ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 If we'd had to go to Birmingham, Leeds, WHU, Boro & Blackpool in the first half of the season do people really think we'd be top??? Really? Based on our away form? C'mon people. Wake up! Oh, Gingeless. I didn't realise that having an opinion ruled me out of being a Saints fan. If it makes you happy I'll go and support Spurs, if it's ok with you? ;-) We are top. What might have happened is a fatuous argument. You know no more how we might have fared at Elland Road as you do tomorrow's lottery numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 You might find the answer in some of his posts if you go back a bit: Regarding our squad: "Too large with players who aren't capable of getting us out of the Championship." (July 23) "Leicester will walk the Championship." (June 27) "There is no way Saints will finish in the top 6. Lower half of the table is the best we can expect next season." (June 6) "Leicester champions. Saints somewhere between 16th & 20th." (May 22) It's just another example of the morons who claim to be supporters but make dire predictions and then spend the season hoping to be proven right. If I'm a "happy clappy" because I'm proud of what we've achieved and optimistic that we can stay there (despite some concerns), so be it. I'd rather be that than have to look at the world through the wrist slasher's eyes every day. A lot of today's posts remind me of the posts on last year's Walsall thread - and from many of the same people (not Hypo, though!). Perhaps we'll see this thread again some time as well. Not sure why you have to keep referring to me. I have posted numerous times that I posted in that thread out of frustration when it looked like only a miraculous run would get us to promotion (which is then what we had.) You then decided to say that I wanted the club to fail. I don't think that subsequent posts (including my argument with Alpine yesterday) has backed up your view in any way. A better man would apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 ah well...if the bubble has burst, it was fun whilst it last.......still aim for the top and see where we end up...one hell of a year to support saints...and we are still TOP..!!!! and that is bad (apparently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Im sure most of us have felt all along that the squad needed strengthening. It has been all so apparent when RL and RC have been out. It would be nioce if the club were positive and signed a couple of players as soon as the window opens, and not wait for the last minutes of the window closing again. i do realise that they do so to get the price down but I believe we are at a crucial stage of the clubs upward climb. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 We haven't played those games yet or seen what we're going to do in January and you're automatically writing us off? Miserable c*nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 If we end this season just outside the playoffs, or losing in the playoffs, the complacent few will still say what a great season it's been - how they never expected to spend half the season in the top two, never expected to finish so high, how great it will be to have another season in the Championship, etc, etc. Being a critical friend is far more supportive of the club than lamely praising everything they do, as if losing matches is just as good as winning. The critics want to see more done to ensure this great club gets back to the top half of the top league and to do that these days you must have a team of truly quality players but the first step has to be to get out of this second tier division we are in. This season we have a great chance, but a chance that can yet be thrown away by results such those over the last 5 weeks. The need for quality into the side could not be clearer, and Adkins has said that himself. HE can only pick the players he has on the books so bringing in better is the way to ensure the good first half is not thrown away. Five signings, please. Oh, and offload some of those who are never going to be premier league standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 1) Current form has dropped. 2) First half of season we have been superb. 3) We have progressed between every transfer window under Cortesse - why not this one? 4) Adkins made hints in post match interview that business is well under way and may hear very soon. (appreciate ****s like Alpine prefer to criticise without hearing interview but was available on internet before criticisms. 5) current form only gives 8 points from last 10 - if we carry on like that (very doubtful imho) we will end up about 3rd or 4th. 6) we always knew Alpine isn't too bright and ridiculously negative (lets give up on automatic and settle for play offs last season) but his criticisms of Cortese and Adkins after one defeat prove him a total **** who is not worth correcting. Added season ticket for my kids this season - they are in shock at seeing a defeat - shows how far we have come. My 12 year old said early on how big and fast Bristol were, and at the end how many blocked shots and ball bouncing around their box without ever looking like scoring we had and how on other games they have been falling better. Young and no expert but some interesting views! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singeon Sears Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 If there is one thing i've learnt with Saints over the years through good times and bad is that fixtures on paper mean nothing. As a "Saints fan" does going to play Boro away sound harder than playing Bristol City away? I'd suggest we are just as likely to beat Boro away as we are to lose to Bristol City away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 I think as last nights game proved its time to dust off the League one book of winning games. As I predicted if we were where we are now teams fighting for their lives are going to play for a draw against us rather than getting smashed into next week by going for a win, and as we saw last night a fortuitous bounce of the ball saw the 4th bottom club go home with 3 points. Crystal Palace came to play and we beat them without knocking it into top gear. Many of those away days to come are against sides who will want to play against us and play to win, which falls right into our hands as it opens the space for us to play our expansive style of Football in. The one thing I instantly liked when we first came down to the Championship was turning up to a game where you had no idea what the result would be as a result of its competitive nature, as opposed to the Premiership where week in week out the immensely rich would roll into town and the first thought in the back of your mind was "I hope we don't get battered". We have bucked the trend overall for the first half of the season now it is time to test our mettle. QPR didn't have it all their own way last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 . Given they we've been unable to beat teams in the bottom 3 I really don't see us getting more than 10 points from all of our remaining away fixtures in 2012. Given that Man Utd couldn't beat a team from the division below, when they were playing at home, the rest of their season is going to be a real struggle. At least, following your line of reasoning it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 were top of the league=fact weve lost 4 games=fact we need a couple of players to get us over the final hurdle=fact enjoy what weve done already and enjoy whats to come ffs coys and wifm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Im sure most of us have felt all along that the squad needed strengthening. It has been all so apparent when RL and RC have been out. It would be nioce if the club were positive and signed a couple of players as soon as the window opens, and not wait for the last minutes of the window closing again. i do realise that they do so to get the price down but I believe we are at a crucial stage of the clubs upward climb. Fingers crossed. Indeed. If we wait another 4 or 5 games until the end of January before doing our business, promotion may be one helluva struggle by then if we have lost those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 1) Current form has dropped. 2) First half of season we have been superb. 3) We have progressed between every transfer window under Cortesse - why not this one? 4) Adkins made hints in post match interview that business is well under way and may hear very soon. (appreciate ****s like Alpine prefer to criticise without hearing interview but was available on internet before criticisms. 5) current form only gives 8 points from last 10 - if we carry on like that (very doubtful imho) we will end up about 3rd or 4th. 6) we always knew Alpine isn't too bright and ridiculously negative (lets give up on automatic and settle for play offs last season) but his criticisms of Cortese and Adkins after one defeat prove him a total **** who is not worth correcting. Added season ticket for my kids this season - they are in shock at seeing a defeat - shows how far we have come. My 12 year old said early on how big and fast Bristol were, and at the end how many blocked shots and ball bouncing around their box without ever looking like scoring we had and how on other games they have been falling better. Young and no expert but some interesting views! Dweeb, I am so going to ram this post down your throat come May if it goes tits up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?25290-Time-to-accept-that-it-is-unlikely-we-will-go-up I remember this one from last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Alps, perhaps Nigel should give George a ring and ask him how to win away matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Dweeb, I am so going to ram this post down your throat come May if it goes tits up..... Which, of course, you are hoping for, just so you can say 'I told you so'.....I liked you better when you weren't posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Is that the new word you have picked up from some kids? As scary as your threat is, you are more than welcome to. I will offer you a charity bet, like I did last season, but once again you wouldn't have the bottle to back up your ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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