spyinthesky Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 If last season is anything to go by we only need to match Pompey's results over the first first 23 games to guarantee a place in the Play Offs Of course there would be a great deal of disappointment if we didnt make the top two but it shows all would not be lost if there was a bit of slippage in the second part of the season With some stregthening in certain areas and good fortune with injuries/suspensions, we should be OK Didnt realise that Swansea lost 14 games last season but got promoted through the Play Offs
St Chalet Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 As long as we don't match their financial results I think we will be ok.
Ewell Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Talk like this is accepting mediocrity. We are going up as Champions I tell ya!
St Chalet Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Talk like this is accepting mediocrity. We are going up as Champions I tell ya! If we match our own form from the first half, we will likely be.
Lighthouse Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I think the encouraging thing is that we're top even with very poor away form. Obviously we've needed near perfect home form to maintain our possition, but if we can get close to that in the second half of the season and get 4 or 5 wins on the road, we shouldn't do too bad. 3 points at the Amex would be a most agreeable start to 2012.
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 It's all about perspective. Given where we are, and how long we've been there, not getting promoted will be a disappointment. As would not going up automatically, surely? Spurs this season similarly will be aggrieved if they don't get a Champions League spot. Last year they were saying that a Europa League place was as good as it was going to get. As daft as it sounds, the ambition should be to just win as many of our games as possible and see where we are at the end of it. Forget everything else. It's down to us.
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Talk like this is accepting mediocrity. We are going up as Champions I tell ya! We need the poll from pre season with the predictions on to see who is proved right apart from Dalek with 17th which everybody knows is wrong. mine was Champions by the way so am half way there
Jimmy_D Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I predicted a top half finish with outside chance of playoffs before the start of the season. Revised that to expecting at least playoffs after 10 games. At the halfway point, I'd be disappointed with anything less than 2nd now.
thefunkygibbons Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I have got rather used to news reports, starting "leaders, Southampton..."
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 We need the poll from pre season with the predictions on to see who is proved right apart from Dalek with 17th which everybody knows is wrong. mine was Champions by the way so am half way there Blimey, another one who thinks the season finishes at the end of 2011 !
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I predicted a top half finish with outside chance of playoffs before the start of the season. Revised that to expecting at least playoffs after 10 games. At the halfway point, I'd be disappointed with anything less than 2nd now. Revisions don't count, stick to your original like me.
colehillsaint Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Revisions don't count, stick to your original like me. I don't think anyone is going to accuse you of regularly changing your mind!
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Blimey, another one who thinks the season finishes at the end of 2011 ! I wonder which part of half way there you didn't understand as only half the season has gone Why would i think the season finished at end of 2011 Cock I have just been trolled.
IFHP Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Blimey, another one who thinks the season finishes at the end of 2011 ! So do you still think we will finish 17th then?
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 So do you still think we will finish 17th then? Yes or thereabouts ! However, f we make significant signings in the transfer window, and I doubt we will, then I will probably be proved wrong.
Colinjb Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I don't think anyone is going to accuse you of regularly changing your mind! He is nothing if not consistent. Oh, and utterly incorrect.
Elmore Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I know it is obvious, but if we want an automatic spot we really need to up our away form, as we can't just rely on our home form. We have lost 4 away games so far which I think is as many Norwich and QPR lost by the end of last season.
Window Cleaner Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I know it is obvious, but if we want an automatic spot we really need to up our away form, as we can't just rely on our home form. We have lost 4 away games so far which I think is as many Norwich and QPR lost by the end of last season. Not so much, a final 23 matches of something like W11 D6 L6 would probably get us there.We've 11 home and 12 away games left I think so if we could win 3 aways as per the first part of the season we'd only need to win 8 out of our remaining home games. I can see 8 very winnable at home,in fact nailed on winnable Doncaster,Brizzle,Barnsley,Coventry,Ipswich,Derby,Skates and Burnley, 3 away games to be won,say Watford,Palarse and Forest leaving us needing to just pick up 6 draws from all the rest, so you see winning at Brighton on Tuesday could even be a bonus
CB Fry Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 (edited) I know it is obvious, but if we want an automatic spot we really need to up our away form, as we can't just rely on our home form. We have lost 4 away games so far which I think is as many Norwich and QPR lost by the end of last season. More interestingly is that QPR drew 7 home games and Norwich drew 6, something we don't look close to doing. So worrying too much about mirroring what others have done (aside from the points tally) is fruitless. If we keep up our unbelievable home form - say remain unbeaten and draw a couple more - then our away form can be pretty average. Edited 30 December, 2011 by CB Fry Got away defeats wrong
Elmore Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 QPR lost 2 home and 6 away. Norwich lost 4 home and 8 away. More interestingly is that QPR drew 7 home games and Norwich drew 6, something we don't look close to doing. So worrying too much about mirroring what others have done (aside from the points tally) is fruitless. If we keep up our unbelievable home form - say remain unbeaten and draw a couple more - then our away form can be pretty average. I think QPR and Norwich both lost 4 away from home last season? http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2010-2011/table
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Well, was the Championship as strong last year as it is this year? Don't think so. West Ham, rejuvenated Middlesbrough, a brand new Cardiff, it's going to be tough regardless of how we do. Still, as I previously said, let's just keep winning and see where we end up. It's Nigel's philosophy and it's not done us any harm so far.
SFC Forever Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 If we match our own form from the first half, we will likely be. If we match our first half then those chasing us will need at least 50 points from a possible 69. Can't see two teams being able to do that.
krissyboy31 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I have got rather used to news reports, starting "leaders, Southampton..."For as many years as I care to remember, our prefix was "struggling."
SaintBobby Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Yes or thereabouts ! However, f we make significant signings in the transfer window, and I doubt we will, then I will probably be proved wrong. Are you still taking bets? I've asked several times with no reply. I'm happy to bet we finish in the top 10. Any sum you want - at evens.
CB Fry Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I think QPR and Norwich both lost 4 away from home last season? http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2010-2011/table I think I was looking at the wrong column earlier. Either way our home form will be better than both of those clubs come the end of the season, is my guess.
S-Clarke Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I think I was looking at the wrong column earlier. Either way our home form will be better than both of those clubs come the end of the season, is my guess. You've done it now.
bender Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 I wont be devastated if we dont get promoted this season, and anyway I'll enjoy the excitement of the playoffs. That said, teams that have a good start but end up only just getting in the playoffs, never do well in the playoffs.
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