Colinjb Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I really hope it's not Lukas J. Wouldn't surprise me if we went to the continent again. I quote from a Coventry fan, "He is our last really good player....." He is doing his best to prop up a team that will set low points records. He will be a good signing if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon Saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I have regular chats at our Gym with a member of staff at Swindon Town, who is a good friend of Lukas Jukewitz & speaks to him weekly on the phone. Lukas has spoken to Saints & is keen on a move, as his Mum still lives in the City. He would LOVE to join, just waiting for the scenario to play out in January. Honest to God, straight honest truth - not lying, no BS. In Nigel we trust :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Why would we admit to not chasing Sharp & Maynard? Wouldn't it be better to no comment as usual, and so help keep our real targets hidden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 lets not try and second guess the big men (adkins & cortese) too much eh, who predicted SDR's signing ...we may/probably are not even looking in this league or this country, to be honest i get a bit fed up of reading all these saints fans saying we 'need' maynard or sharp, yes another striker is probably what the dr ordered but as others have said ...there are other strikers out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 and Rhodes is playing for one of the best teams in a lower league and Lucas is playing for an awful side in this league. I have no opinion on Jay Rod, dont know enough about him.fair point. They are very different type of players anyway. I have to say I thought Lucas looked pretty average at their place, but one game is never enough to judge a player. With all three we would be buying a lot of potential as they are still young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Don't judge Lucas please as the Jos deal is a fine example of that. We have a great team at the moment and if I pointed out to you the quality of crosses (Vs Palace Boxing Day) we would deliver to Lucas then he will score for fun. At the moment I expect Lucas is getting the service of a hump 50 feet in the air, poor kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I have regular chats at our Gym with a member of staff at Swindon Town, who is a good friend of Lukas Jukewitz & speaks to him weekly on the phone. Lukas has spoken to Saints & is keen on a move, as his Mum still lives in the City. He would LOVE to join, just waiting for the scenario to play out in January. Honest to God, straight honest truth - not lying, no BS. In Nigel we trust :-) Is that Nuffields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 It's some news that creates more questions than answers. Not fussed about Maynard, Sharp would be nice but he rejected us in the summer and we've moved on since then. More importantly, does that mean our reported interest in the other strikers is still valid? Or did the Solent just not mention their name? And who is their insider - I suspect only a few people in the club know genuine transfer targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 (edited) The BBC and the club have a good relationship, with BBC Radio Solent staff and the media department at Saints seeming to get on very well. Along with certain broadsheets I think Cortese likes the BBC and has given two interviews himself to them. I have a feeling this "leak" about Sharp and Maynard may be deliberate as the BBC wouldn't want to upset the club behind their backs. Edited 29 December, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Not fussed about Maynard' date=' Sharp would be nice but he rejected us in the summer and we've moved on since then.[/quote'] We keep hearing that Sharp rejected us but I distinctly remember it being the other way around. Adkins was very clear at the time that we dropped the interest. There are even quotes out there in cyberspace to the effect "We got the chance to talk to Billy Sharp because we had agreed a deal with the Doncaster chairman, but after the negotiations it was decided that we wouldn't take it any further, it's as simple as that. Whichever way you want to talk about it, the fact of the matter is that Billy is going to remain a Doncaster player." That quote is even in Nigel's style so I tend to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Well looks my source was wrong then, sorry about that. Whatever happens I hope we have a striker lined up and aren't just hoping on something that doesn't materialise. Jutkiewiscz is decent cover for Lambert and no doubt could partner him as well but just IMO it's a bit of a meh signing, Rodriguez? Despite the hype he just doesn't look that good compared to Sharp and Maynard who are now much cheaper. Sordell fits the bill in terms of potential but would be very expensive and I doubt we'd have much of a chance now anyway. As for a foreign signing? Massive gamble (as of course all signings are) but do we have the time for them to settle in before making an impact? Naturally I'll wait and see before passing judgement though and I'm sure NA and NC have it all under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 after doing some digging on the net....Jukewitz or what ever would suit out play...he is far from a penalty box forward..he likes to move across the front like and pulls out wide a great deal...something our forwards seemed to be required to do...he is also pretty good in the air too cov fans seem desperate for him to stay (obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I hate transfer windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I would be very surprised if we make a Guly/SDR signing other than a goalkeeper from a foreign side. Anyone we sign for the first team has got to be able to fit/fill in immediately, to do that they would really have to be playing in this country already.It took quite a while for Guly/SDR to fit in. I personally favour Jutkeiwicz as he could play with or without Lambert and wants to play for us. Sharp and Rodriguez have turned us down already so even if they came to us now, their motivation as far as we are concerned is questionable. I would like to see us double up and try and bring in Vokes as one for the future/backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 As said in Font thread, We are hardly desperate for 1st team forward. Think club will be looking for either back up for rL, such as Cov bloke, or one for future.c oncerns with Sharp and Maynatd -will they fit into squad spirit and our playing style? We queried CB in summer, but Adkins went for one with. our playing style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 It would appear that Sharp and Maynard go into the same category as De Pedro, Bierhoff and Mido (ie. loads of speculation, 'done deal' posts, and actually f*ck all happened). Can we consign them to the dustbin now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 It would appear that Sharp and Maynard go into the same category as De Pedro, Bierhoff and Mido (ie. loads of speculation, 'done deal' posts, and actually f*ck all happened). It has been confirmed from both sides that stuff did happen in relation to Saints bidding for Sharp in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 It has been confirmed from both sides that stuff did happen in relation to Saints bidding for Sharp in the summer. Have we, or are we going to, sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The BBC and the club have a good relationship, with BBC Radio Solent staff and the media department at Saints seeming to get on very well. Along with certain broadsheets I think Cortese likes the BBC and has given two interviews himself to them. I have a feeling this "leak" about Sharp and Maynard may be deliberate as the BBC wouldn't want to upset the club behind their backs. In which case I wouldn't believe that leak at all - it may just be political jostling from the club to position themselves for a lower fee etc. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense for the club to rule out targets as it narrows options down and any position of bargaining. We keep hearing that Sharp rejected us but I distinctly remember it being the other way around. Adkins was very clear at the time that we dropped the interest. There are even quotes out there in cyberspace to the effect "We got the chance to talk to Billy Sharp because we had agreed a deal with the Doncaster chairman, but after the negotiations it was decided that we wouldn't take it any further, it's as simple as that. Whichever way you want to talk about it, the fact of the matter is that Billy is going to remain a Doncaster player." That quote is even in Nigel's style so I tend to believe it. You are correct - the club did say that. Sharp said he rejected us. I usually go with what the club says but in this case I believe Sharp more than the club. I guess we'll never know the truth but I just think the chances of Saints agreeing a fee and speaking to a player and then rejecting the move without saying why (e.g. medical concerns in the case of Fontaine) is peculiar. Adkins knows all about Sharp already and if it was an issue around wages then surely that would have been sounded out via the agent before Saints made a bid as bidding for players you can't afford is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 As I have said on MANY occasions, if we're going to sign anyone, it'll be a name we are not familiar with. Did we see De Ridder coming? Did we see Hooiveld coming? No. This news is neither surprising or interesting. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Good jokes are timeless, just look at Tommy Cooper. He's dead, you tw*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I have been told that we are after one English/British player and two from abroad no names mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I have been told that we are after one English/British player and two from abroad no names mentioned. Told by...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Told by...? Son in Laws cousin who works for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 One thing is certain. Under Cortese's leadership Saints are far to proud to beg. We only go for the players who want to play and give their everything for the club. Sharp and Maynard blotted their copy books long ago. Hence we no longer have any interest, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I have been told that we are after one English/British player and two from abroad no names mentioned.the Dutch keeper might be one of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 the Dutch keeper might be one of those two. I hope the other foriegner isn't that guy player for Basle that there is a thread about, as that one is never going to happen and a total waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I hope the other foriegner isn't that guy player for Basle that there is a thread about, as that one is never going to happen and a total waste of time. open your mind up ffs...what would you do if it did...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I hope the other foriegner isn't that guy player for Basle that there is a thread about, as that one is never going to happen and a total waste of time. Bet you would have said the same of Keegan signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 open your mind up ffs...what would you do if it did...? I'd be worried that signing a player for that amount of money would upset the team spirit and lead us into a sharp decline which would ulitmately end in us missing out on the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I'd be worried that signing a player for that amount of money would upset the team spirit and lead us into a sharp decline which would ulitmately end in us missing out on the playoffs. fairy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 fairy.. We must find a negative in every situation Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I'd be worried that signing a player for that amount of money would upset the team spirit and lead us into a sharp decline which would ulitmately end in us missing out on the playoffs.Bellamey-esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 but what about keegan...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 but what about keegan...? This signing and the fact they said man would never climb Everest means anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 One thing is certain. Under Cortese's leadership Saints are far to proud to beg. We only go for the players who want to play and give their everything for the club. Sharp and Maynard blotted their copy books long ago. Hence we no longer have any interest, Sounds like Jutkiewicz then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised if we did not get anyone whom we know much about, kinda getting use to loads of wild expectations on here and ending up back in reality land. We will not pay the wage demands of any player in this country who is regarded as half decent, this is not a moan btw, I just don't think Cortese will pay inflated prices or salaries for mediocrity, he and NA will probably look abroad for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 and the significant difference between Jordan Rhodes and Lucas J or Jay Rodriguez is??? Jordan Rhodes seems to score more goals than the other two ...is that a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Jordan Rhodes seems to score more goals than the other two ...is that a difference? like saying lambert scores more than aguero..... different divisions maybe a tiny little factor...? no..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Only if it's not Shaquiri. A mr flash boll*cks, would undermine the team ethic that's painstakingly been built up blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 we never really got to the bottom of the Sharp transfer collapse, but on face value it looked like he wanted more wages than we were willing to offer. His wife's pregnancy has subsequently been used as a reason for not wanting to move, but I don't think that had anything to do with it. Why chat at all of you didn't want to move. The Maynard deal never seemed to get off the ground as it appeared Bristol City wanted a sum far exceeding what we feel is right for a soon to be out of contract player. It therefore wouldn't surprise me if we spent the last 5 months scouting elsewhere. Quite happy, as I'm not a huge admirer of either. There could well be better players from abroad more reasonably priced and demanding lower wages. I heard 3rd hand via another agent that it was because we were not prepared to pay the agents fees and it never really got considered. His agent threw some carefully selected words our way and that apparently was it. I have no idea who we are after now but a combination of Lukas J + Jay Rodriguez would be close to ideal. I don't rate Rodriguez any where near £5M, but those behind the doors at Saints certainly do. It would not surprise me if we still got the speedster in from the continent, especially after Rodriguez form of late, Lukas J looks good value to ensure promotion. It would not surprise me to see a couple of our players go to Coventry to sort the deal, whether permanently or just on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Agents are a f*cking pain in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Everytime i see those two gags along with the Forecast and Pulis ones, even after the 5749992 time, i dont know if i should PMSL or LMFAO. Saints set to sign De Pedro, more soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I'm informed we were in for Neymar, until Cortese saw his hair and decided his attitude wouldn't be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I'd be worried that signing a player for that amount of money would upset the team spirit and lead us into a sharp decline which would ulitmately end in us missing out on the playoffs. Why would it? The squad at the moment seems to have a great spirit and banter between them. Long gone are the days of Euell, John, Saganowski etc who were more interested in earning more than anyone else rather than playing for the team. I very much doubt the XS signing will happen but if it did I think It will boost the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Why would we admit to not chasing Sharp & Maynard? Wouldn't it be better to no comment as usual, and so help keep our real targets hidden? Perhaps Bristol City and Doncaster have narked off Cortese in recent months (maybe partly as they both beat us??!!??), and he wants to play no part in any auction which may see them get more money for their players. The interesting thing with potentially signing Jutkiewicz is that we were supposed to have royally peeved off Coventry when we didn't sign Elliott Ward a couple of years ago and went for Seaborne instead, so you wonder whether Cov would hold out for any other potentially interested clubs (Middlesboro??). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 pointless, but I just love watching skills like these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NscDh332iWc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLOEF_-pp9U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I would be very surprised if we make a Guly/SDR signing other than a goalkeeper from a foreign side. Anyone we sign for the first team has got to be able to fit/fill in immediately, to do that they would really have to be playing in this country already.It took quite a while for Guly/SDR to fit in. I personally favour Jutkeiwicz as he could play with or without Lambert and wants to play for us. Sharp and Rodriguez have turned us down already so even if they came to us now, their motivation as far as we are concerned is questionable. I would like to see us double up and try and bring in Vokes as one for the future/backup. Interesting, that's the second time I've seen Vokes' name mentioned in the last 24 hours by people whose comments I think are always worth noting (the other person to mention Vokes being Clive Foley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 In which case I wouldn't believe that leak at all - it may just be political jostling from the club to position themselves for a lower fee etc. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense for the club to rule out targets as it narrows options down and any position of bargaining. You are correct - the club did say that. Sharp said he rejected us. I usually go with what the club says but in this case I believe Sharp more than the club. I guess we'll never know the truth but I just think the chances of Saints agreeing a fee and speaking to a player and then rejecting the move without saying why (e.g. medical concerns in the case of Fontaine) is peculiar. Adkins knows all about Sharp already and if it was an issue around wages then surely that would have been sounded out via the agent before Saints made a bid as bidding for players you can't afford is stupid. Both could be right. The club rejected the terms that Sharp wanted. Sharp rejected the terms that the club offered. There is no contradiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 pointless, but I just love watching skills like these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NscDh332iWc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLOEF_-pp9U The rule about no stuttering run ups for penalties means nothing to this man! Then again, it means nothing to anyone. Wish FIFA would crack down on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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