Redondo Saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 NA suggested some fringe players would be moving on next month - who?
JackFrost Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Dickson and to celebrate the new year, Forecast?
RobM Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Forte seems the obvious choice. Ryan Dickson too perhaps? If we're lucky it will also be Jason Puncheon and Tommy Forecast too.
skintsaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Forte, Barnard. Think it depends who we bring in.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Forte, Barnard. Think it depends who we bring in. where is barnard going to go...?
RobM Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 I can't see Barnard leaving, I think the club will show some loyalty there.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Barnard. Barnard signed a new deal in the summer, I doubt he is going to be sold in January.
ladysaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Holmes maybe doesmnt seem to feature much
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 NA suggested some fringe players would be moving on next month - who? I really don't know, depends on exactly how many players we need to help out the development squad, what our projects are for the cup etc etc. I think we're more likely to see some of the young talent going out on longer loans than we are of seeing some of the senior fringe players leaving the club defintively.Forte seems to be capturing sme sort of interest, can't see many of the others moving on unless we're buying position for position replacements in January.2 in 1 out would be my take on the senior players.
James Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Dickson and Forte would be my guess. Don't think we need to rid ourselves of many more (I have excluded Forecast on the assumption nobody will want him)
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 I hope Forecast doesn't go as this will mean an end to the hilarious Forecast related jokes we get to LOL at so often.
skintsaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 where is barnard going to go...? How would I know that?...I just have a hunch. Just because he signed a new contract doesnt mean he wont be sold.
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 How would I know that?...I just have a hunch. Just because he signed a new contract doesnt mean he wont be sold. who is going to buy an injured striker with a court case coming up...?
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 How would I know that?...I just have a hunch. Just because he signed a new contract doesnt mean he wont be sold. If you were a buying club would you sign someone who had just signed a new deal, was injured for 2 months and awaiting trial for a crime for which he could be sent down for??
James Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 who is going to buy an injured striker with a court case coming up...? Exactly.
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 If you were a buying club would you sign someone who had just signed a new deal, was injured for 2 months and awaiting trial for a crime for which he could be sent down for?? who is going to buy an injured striker with a court case coming up...? This is the second time tonight we have responded to a post with exactly the same points within seconds of each other. Brilliant minds Jamie.
Appy Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 I don't understand people's mentality around Barnard saying he can't step up, he has hardly had a chance to.
skintsaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 If you were a buying club would you sign someone who had just signed a new deal, was injured for 2 months and awaiting trial for a crime for which he could be sent down for?? True....but its a funny old game.
Crab Lungs Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 I don't understand people's mentality around Barnard saying he can't step up, he has hardly had a chance to. They were right when they said Rickie Lambert couldn't step up, they'll be right about Barnard too. We're lucky to have so many oracles in one place. Hang on...
Rebel Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan
Dr Who? Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 None of the first team. Cannot see Barney leaving, or being shown the door, and still think he has a major part to play in our promotion.
Crab Lungs Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and, call me speculative -but do you run the football transfer rumours site per chance?
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan Are we signing two new centre backs and a new goal keeper then?
RobM Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan Thank goodness you don't run our club, that would leave us with no defensive cover at all and Forecast as our reserve 'keeper!
saintscottofthenortham Posted 29 December, 2011 Posted 29 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan Bet you have just posted that up on bull****footballtransferrumours.com and labeled it as gospel.
DrunkenSaint Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Forte + Dickson and Puncheon will leave i reckon. The end of the season will see a lot more go.
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 who is going to buy an injured striker with a court case coming up...?[/QUOTE] at least we're in agreement on that one! TDD .if he's going to move " somewhere else " it'll be the judge who decides....
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Forte + Dickson and Puncheon will leave i reckon. The end of the season will see a lot more go. you may be "drunk " but you 'aint daft --I go along with all of that ...
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Thank goodness you don't run our club, that would leave us with no defensive cover at all and Forecast as our reserve 'keeper! .but that's before we sign a new keeper, and that "extra " CH.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan Are you ****ed ???
jamesfp1 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan Are you high?
Aardvark Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan That could be a good call and worth adding a million or two to JP's nominal value. The really interesting thing about this window is not so much whether certain players are good enough for the Championship (Puncheon, Barnard, Holmes, Harding etc.) - they probably are; but whether they're good enough for the (more than probable, if the bookies are to be believed) harder challenges ahead in the Premiership. Maybe the summer will bring a harsher clear out than this window, but players who have done really good jobs for us to get us this far might not be up to Prem football (discuss!) - the likes of Fox, Fonte, Do Prado and Hammond for instance. Personally the only ones I would see being likely successes at that level would be Davis, Lallana, Richardson, Jos, Cork, Morgan (in time) and Lambert (probably!).
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Turkish did a very well-reasoned evaluation of the entire squad (on another thread) recently, and came to the conclusion that about 14 players in the present set-up were probably OK for Prem. level - taking account of obvious retirement (Jaidi) and OOC players like Butterfield and Connolly..+ a few more... I agreed with all of his selections - (and although we aren't the Oracle on such things) ..it still left EIGHT uncertainties that must be resolved before next season - on the assumption that we go up... that means quite a change of personnel. Hope he can trace it and re-run it . Very Interesting.
krissyboy31 Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Lee Holmes out on loan to a League 1 club Jonno Quick Forte - Walsall for a small feee Bartosz Bialkowski on loan to a League 1 club or back to Poland for a small fee Puncheon to Blackpool in part exchange for Matt Phillips or £ cash to Millwall Aaron Martin out on loan Dan Seabourne out on loan if he is anywhere near fit Harlee Dean on loan to Brentford Ryan Doble out on loan If both Martin and Seaborne leave on loan, who's going to cover for Jos and Jose?
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 If both Martin and Seaborne leave on loan, who's going to cover for Jos and Jose? Martin has been told he's going nowhere. My mate down the pub told me.
Window Cleaner Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Martin has been told he's going nowhere. My mate down the pub told me. Down the pub ! must be true then. Apparently Moses got the 10 commandments from a bloke down the Burning Bush public house.
RobM Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 Martin has been told he's going nowhere. My mate down the pub told me. Down the pub ! must be true then. Apparently Moses got the 10 commandments from a bloke down the Burning Bush public house. Martin being the first choice to cover Fonte tonight would suggest that mate down the pub is worth listening to!
DT Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I watched Lambert closely on Saturday and felt he didn't really put in a big shift, almost as if he wanted to avoid injury and thoughts were elsewhere. Perhaps Newcastle. Really hope not, but just a nagging worry. This is a hugely important window for us. Think we looked very thin.
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2011 Posted 30 December, 2011 I watched Lambert closely on Saturday and felt he didn't really put in a big shift, almost as if he wanted to avoid injury and thoughts were elsewhere. Perhaps Newcastle. Really hope not, but just a nagging worry. This is a hugely important window for us. Think we looked very thin. Interesting you say that. I've watched Lambert closely all season and felt he's really put in a shift and loves being here and is more commited than anyone else.
DT Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Lambert to Newcastle even stronger rumor today. Agent just tweeted they're looking at him.
S-Clarke Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Lambert to Newcastle even stronger rumor today. Agent just tweeted they're looking at him. They can keep looking at him if they want, as long as they don't touch. Wouldn't sell him for any price, we're toothless without him.
Chez Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Lambert to Newcastle even stronger rumor today. Agent just tweeted they're looking at him.not a chance in hell of that happening.
DT Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Unless the player fancies big money and certain prem football, at his time of life...
Dalek2003 Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 They can keep looking at him if they want, as long as they don't touch. Wouldn't sell him for any price, we're toothless without him. Yes but if we get £4 million offer I am sure we will sell and replace him with our £500,000 acquisition plus the cahp from Coventry for £1million. Good business.
Chez Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Unless the player fancies big money and certain prem football, at his time of life...he's on big money and will play Prem football next season with us. He is going nowhere. Trust me.
Lighthouse Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Players I'd like to get rid of: Forte Dickson Puncheon Holmes Jaidi Connolly Forecast The last 3 wont be going anywhere and probably not Holmes either. Hopefully we can get something final for Puncheon. I'm getting pretty bored with players like him and Forecast sticking around and spending the whole season out on loan to 2 different clubs.
S-Clarke Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Seriously re: Connolly? That's mental. why do you want to get rid of him? surely what we saw in the first few months of the season demonstrated why we did well to get him to sign last year.
Lighthouse Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 Seriously re: Connolly? That's mental. why do you want to get rid of him? surely what we saw in the first few months of the season demonstrated why we did well to get him to sign last year. He started the season brightly, 4 in the first 5 games I think it was, but he has done b*gger all else since August. 1 goal since then, a relatively simple finish from that move of the centuary against Boro. He's not quick, he's not strong or good in the air and the last couple of games I saw him in he gave the ball away a lot. As for "doing well getting him to sign last year" I doubt he was beating away offers from Premier League clubs. Offered the choice of Connolly or someone 10 years younger with a bit of height or pace, I'd go for the latter.
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2011 Posted 31 December, 2011 I watched Lambert closely on Saturday and felt he didn't really put in a big shift, almost as if he wanted to avoid injury and thoughts were elsewhere. Perhaps Newcastle. Really hope not, but just a nagging worry. This is a hugely important window for us. Think we looked very thin.god..how many times do you need to make your point..?
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