Gemmel Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Confirmed by fat Sam. That ******* winds me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 why does it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 29 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Because I don't want our nearest competitors getting the best players available and regardless of their financial position, we know they will pay him much more than we would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Because I don't want our nearest competitors getting the best players available and regardless of their financial position, we know they will pay him much more than we would. what goes around and all that...we did it for 2 years in league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Would be funny if they got him and they didn't go up - they would be in real trouble financially. Seriously, once they are all fit how are they going to keep Rhodes, Piquionne, Cole, Carew, Baldock and Sears happy at the same time. I'd like to see us go for him but at 4m its a big risk for someone unproven at this level. He might flop if WHU get him, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Because I don't want our nearest competitors getting the best players available and regardless of their financial position, we know they will pay him much more than we would. How do we know Rhodes is among "the best players" though.Allardyce had a 25 man shortlist of prospective targets,bound to be a couple of decent players on there somewhere. I'd rather he went for Rhodes than say Maynard or Rodriguez. He might even have a couple of our players on his list ...they won't go there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Confirmed by fat Sam. That ******* winds me up Also confirmed by Sam that they made an enquiry and were told that Huddersfield were not interested and so he would not take it any further especially as he would not have the funds to prise him away anyway. So Fat Sam confirms no further interest. Fat Sam has already said he has a very long short list, so what, it seems like his short list may be even shorter given WHU's lack of funds. I like it when big mouths like Fat Sam reveal what they do with regard to transfers, giving the game away, I prefer the approach of NC/NA where nothing is said until the deal is done, keeping everyone guessing and not showing their hands like some poker novice. However, it may be the NC may give NA the required funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2079869/West-Ham-Jordan-Rhodes-bid-rejected-Huddersfield.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Huddersfield won't let him go and unless he hands in a transfer request I don't feel we should be concerned as in Sam's own words a flat "NO" was the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 West Ham have always been big spenders, I'm not sure why putting in a bid for a decent League 1 player would either surprise or annoy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 If Rhodes has any sence he himself would reject Westham if others are interested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 **** off WH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 If Rhodes has any sence he himself would reject Westham if others are interested.. err, why...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 If Rhodes has any sence he himself would reject Westham if others are interested.. why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I guess at WH he might not be a regular starter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Just assume with any domestic player that Big Sam has made an enquiry. Forecast? PMSL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Apparently Blackburn want Sordell too. We'll have to get used to either trying to fight for these players with others, and hope our package and set up is more attractive, or go off piste and look for players that aren't in mainstream English football. West Ham are desperate for promotion. (As are Leicester but they need to pull out something special). I wouldn't put it past them spending more money than most Premiership clubs this January. Let's just hope whatever we do we don't get toooooooooo frivolous with the money and potentially end up back in a situation akin to the one we were in 3 years ago, and that we conduct ourselves in a manner that other clubs respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Apparently Blackburn want Sordell too. We'll have to get used to either trying to fight for these players with others, and hope our package and set up is more attractive, or go off piste and look for players that aren't in mainstream English football. West Ham are desperate for promotion. (As are Leicester but they need to pull out something special). I wouldn't put it past them spending more money than most Premiership clubs this January. Let's just hope whatever we do we don't get toooooooooo frivolous with the money and potentially end up back in a situation akin to the one we were in 3 years ago, and that we conduct ourselves in a manner that other clubs respect. If he goes to Blackburn he's a mug, they are an awful team who look doomed. Remind me so much of us in our 2005 and 2009 relegations. Gutless, no bottle and a nasty negative attitude around the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Never ceases to amaze me how the fat reptile Slobberdyce goes public on this, in the same way 'arry does in order to unsettle a player. As someone else pointed out, its good that NC/NA manage to conduct issues with dignity and discretion. To apply a Keeganism, I'd love it, really [f'kin] love it, if we pulled off a major signing that no bastard in the media or elsewhere had wind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 They really are going **** or bust aren't they? They are ****ed if they don't go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 3.5 mill and Hudders turned it down. Fair play to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 They really are going **** or bust aren't they? They are ****ed if they don't go up. Quite - it's all very well Fat Sam saying he wants this player or that player, but will Gold and Sullivan go along with it. The porn barons are, to paraphrase a football chant, in the sh.1t and they know they are. They, like Pompey, do not have a pot to p1ss in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 There's always the chance that he doesn't have any more money to buy and pay players so his next best bet is to deliberately screw things up for clubs who do - mainly us. Hence the long short list. Even the whisper of some West Ham interest would jack-up a player's price, wouldn't it? The more I see of Sam and his god-awful 'football' the more I hope that the formerly-likeable West Ham hit the rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Never ceases to amaze me how the fat reptile Slobberdyce goes public on this, in the same way 'arry does in order to unsettle a player. As someone else pointed out, its good that NC/NA manage to conduct issues with dignity and discretion. To apply a Keeganism, I'd love it, really [f'kin] love it, if we pulled off a major signing that no bastard in the media or elsewhere had wind of. OR...... We sign nobody and get promoted as Champions with what we have! (ALthough I'm not sure that a: My heart could cope with this scenario or b: My heart could cope with the reaction on here on February 1st at not signing anyone!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Allardyce confirmed that Huddersfield had given them a firm no and that West Ham couldn't afford what they were asking. Not sure why this would wind anyone up - it means that Rhodes will not be going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All rhodes lead to the premiership if they sign JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I am sure I read the West Ham were in the hock for £80m. Their current wage bill should be covered by their good attendances and merchandising + £16m parachute. Funding a £80m debt won't be cheap in the current climate so I would imagine that although Sam can bring players in he will have to move others on. However, this is football so all financial and commercial logic goes out of the window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Pretty sure Gold and Sullivan are already paying out excessive amounts of money out their own pockets to ensure that they are breaking even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I know money talks and all that but if I was a forward who was shorter than 6 ft 4, there's no way I'd sign for an Allardyce team... you'd be on the bench or on the wing when he went 4-5-1 and if you played you'd spend the whole game chasing balls being smashed over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 err, why...? West Ham have five strikers already, he will just be another nobody, If he wants to progress then without being to biased Southampton would provide that as Lambert is his only threat.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 They've now bid for Peter Whittingham as well - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16362916.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 They've now bid for Peter Whittingham as well - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16362916.stm West Ham did not make a bid for Jordan Rhodes. There is a huge difference between making a bid and making a discrete enquiry. I saw the Whittingham story as well, strange game Fat Sam is playing, no way would Cardiff let Whittingham go to a rival IMHO. Why is he making all of these transfer enquiries public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 (edited) West Ham have five strikers already, he will just be another nobody, If he wants to progress then without being to biased Southampton would provide that as Lambert is his only threat.. I would hope he wouldn't see Lambert as a threat. Most teams operate better with two strikers, and the Lambert /Barnard /Connolly combination has worked well in the past..with Barnard out indefinitely and Connolly on a short contract to the end of the season, we'll need at least TWO new strikers to cover for ALL eventualities...and If we are a Prem.side then we'll need at least FOUR. Harry is sitting in third place with Spu*s, he has five strikers and he still can't find a good combination that works. Bale is his best player and he's not even a striker ! Edited 30 December, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 West Ham did not make a bid for Jordan Rhodes. There is a huge difference between making a bid and making a discrete enquiry. I saw the Whittingham story as well, strange game Fat Sam is playing, no way would Cardiff let Whittingham go to a rival IMHO. Why is he making all of these transfer enquiries public? I have to agree with that. If you compare the "Saints / discreet NC softly, softly" approach, it's just like Sam is shouting from the rooftops, so as it looks like he's doing something. Last week's statement about having " 25 players on his short list " didn't suggest that he was going to bid for them all, more likely he's sounded desperate and perhaps he'll end up getting those who no-one can wants /or/ can get.... ...and then come out and say .." he's a player I've always wanted and has been on my list for some time , blah, blah, ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 West Ham did not make a bid for Jordan Rhodes. There is a huge difference between making a bid and making a discrete enquiry. I saw the Whittingham story as well, strange game Fat Sam is playing, no way would Cardiff let Whittingham go to a rival IMHO. Why is he making all of these transfer enquiries public? I agree. Very strange, these sorts of players aren't going to come cheap either. Considering what they spent in the Summer and now with their rumoured targets it really is boom or bust for the Hammers. Maybe they make them public to appease the fans even though they know its unlikely they will be successful in getting them. I seem to remember a couple of seasons ago they were in relegation trouble under Zola so released a story about bidding for Graham Dorrans presumably to calm the fans down even though they failed to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 There's always the chance that he doesn't have any more money to buy and pay players so his next best bet is to deliberately screw things up for clubs who do mainly us. Hence the long short list. Even the whisper of some West Ham interest would jack-up a player's price, wouldn't it? The more I see of Sam and his god-awful 'football' the more I hope that the formerly-likeable West Ham hit the rocks. Have to say - if they are second in the table, I wasn't very impressed when watching the game v. Brum. Yes they got an early goal, but despite a lot of possession didn't look like scoring a second. The only reason that they didn't lose IMO -was that Brum were absolutely pi** - poor !...and could hardly string three passes together.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 (edited) I agree. Very strange, these sorts of players aren't going to come cheap either. Considering what they spent in the Summer and now with their rumoured targets it really is boom or bust for the Hammers. Maybe they make them public to appease the fans even though they know its unlikely they will be successful in getting them. I seem to remember a couple of seasons ago they were in relegation trouble under Zola so released a story about bidding for Graham Dorrans presumably to calm the fans down even though they failed to sign him. this is a desperate manager's PR tactic...say you're interested in buying a big name player, so as to up the club's image -- knowing full well you haven't a hope of getting them...(or maybe didn't want them in the first place). Then, when they sign for someone else - shift the blame to your Board - " there you are.. (he) went to a club with BIG money, and we don't have that sort of economy...blah, blah..." (heard it all before ). Detected a little of this in those ..." who's Beckham going to sign for " ..stories a while back ...Spurs? QPR? ..but few clubs could afford him..and for how long ? Edited 30 December, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I would hope he wouldn't see Lambert as a threat. Most teams operate better with two strikers, and the Lambert /Barnard /Connolly combination has worked well in the past..with Barnard out indefinitely and Connolly on a short contract to the end of the season, we'll need at least TWO new strikers to cover for ALL eventualities...and If we are a Prem.side then we'll need at least FOUR. Harry is sitting in third place with Spu*s, he has five strikers and he still can't find a good combination that works. Bale is his best player and he's not even a striker ! Okay threat wasn't the correct word to use, but you get the idea, I'm sure he'd rather go to a club that are on the up and he is MORE likely to get first team football compared to West Ham who aren't financially sound and have 5 very good strikers for this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Okay threat wasn't the correct word to use, but you get the idea, I'm sure he'd rather go to a club that are on the up and he is MORE likely to get first team football compared to West Ham who aren't financially sound and have 5 very good strikers for this league. Rhodes would have no more chance of getting first team football at Saints than he would at West Ham, I do not doubt that when they are fit Guly and Rickie will be our first choice front pair. That's why I personally don't give a toss about Maynard,Sharp,Jut...z or Rhodes, I don't think we're even in the market for a mainline striker because we have to think of our youth programme as well. What I think we do need is someone a bit polyvalent and willing to sit on the bench most of the time until he's learnt our game and gets his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Okay threat wasn't the correct word to use, but you get the idea, I'm sure he'd rather go to a club that are on the up and he is MORE likely to get first team football compared to West Ham who aren't financially sound and have 5 very good strikers for this league. you do mean Saints - don't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 [/b] this is a desperate manager's PR tactic...say you're interested in buying a big name player, so as to up the club's image -- knowing full well you haven't a hope of getting them...(or maybe didn't want them in the first place). Then, when they sign for someone else - shift the blame to your Board - " there you are.. (he) went to a club with BIG money, and we don't have that sort of economy...blah, blah..." (heard it all before ). Detected a little of this in those ..." who's Beckham going to sign for " ..stories a while back ...Spurs? QPR? ..but few clubs could afford him..and for how long ? They call it the 'Rednapp' syndrome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Would be funny if they got him and they didn't go up - they would be in real trouble financially. Seriously, once they are all fit how are they going to keep Rhodes, Piquionne, Cole, Carew, Baldock and Sears happy at the same time. I'd like to see us go for him but at 4m its a big risk for someone unproven at this level. He might flop if WHU get him, who knows? That was my thought too. How many forwards do they want??? Rickie Lambert was unproven at this level - now he's top scorer. I would take the risk. We can always sell him on if we need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Was just thinking it might be a good thing if the Hammers get the likes of Whittingham as it will only weaken the teams below us i.e Cardiff. If they could take someone off Boro like Robson that would also be good. As others have said, its about being in the top 2 not necessarily Champions. The ideal situation would be that the Hammers weaken the chasing pack by unsettling/signing their star men - then these new signings fail to gel in their team and they fall away too - we can dream eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Forget Jordan Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 Forget Jordan Rhodes[/QUOT Do you know something then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Looks like everybody can forget JR! SkySports Sky Sports Huddersfield boss Lee Clark has again insisted that Jordan Rhodes will not be sold in the January transfer window. #HTFC #WHUFC 15 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Looks like everybody can forget JR! SkySports Sky Sports Huddersfield boss Lee Clark has again insisted that Jordan Rhodes will not be sold in the January transfer window. #HTFC #WHUFC 15 minutes ago What a manager says means nothing. If a club comes in with a big enough bid, he will be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 Looks like everybody can forget JR! SkySports Sky Sports Huddersfield boss Lee Clark has again insisted that Jordan Rhodes will not be sold in the January transfer window. #HTFC #WHUFC 15 minutes ago We said the same about Alex Chamberlain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 We said the same about Alex Chamberlain. we did....last january Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I wish we had Alex Oxlade-Chamberlaine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 January, 2012 Share Posted 1 January, 2012 I wish we had Alex Oxlade-Chamberlaine now.don't we all, but without his transfer fee would we have been able to afford Cork, Jos, Chaplow and Fox not to mention the new big contracts for Fonte, Lambert etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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