whelk Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/12/29/football-league-show-to-be-axed-by-bbc-115875-23665448/ Depressing stuff although hopefully not impacted next season. Hanson on £40k an episode of MOTD is a total joke though for less than 10 mins air time mostly clichéd repetition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All they need for the Football League Show is to f*** off Claridge and his dross and give the remaining games other than the feature more than 10 seconds air time. They saw some sense when they bombed off that tart reading out emails, she always managed to make whoever was writing in sound like a 10 year old. A complete waste of time and cannot understand how someone said "let's have a bird reading out various emails from people writing in, in between 10 second clips of games." and that was seen as bright. People get paid to come up with this shít and it gets my goat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 This is a tragedy. I thought the BBC were supposed to be non populist. This is just pandering to the big rich clubs again and the boring followers that moronically watch them and don't live any where near them. Watched MOTD this week and it was frankly boring. Even if we go up I would not want to see the demise of the FLS keeps you in touch with reality unlike the BBC. Go on you give the old out of touch and out of date pundits a fortune and axe the FLS cos that's clever isn't it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 It's a shame, but the Football League show was never a standalone thing for me - always supplemented it with Saints Player. It's a much better experience this year, on account of them putting the Championship first, but they cover a lot of games in a very short time period. It has always been a bit crap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/12/29/football-league-show-to-be-axed-by-bbc-115875-23665448/ Hanson on £40k an episode of MOTD is a total joke though for less than 10 mins air time mostly clichéd repetition. Is that true though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What annoys me is the lazy engagement of sub-standard pundits purely because they are ex-players. Now, they might know a bit about playing football but they are by-and-large inarticulate, of stunted perspicuity, complacent and ignorant about anything which doesn't involve their pet teams. Has Alan Shearer ever said anything interesting on a football programme.... ever? It might just be the fluid nature of football (as opposed to more staccato and tactics-dominated sports) and the fact that we all think we are experts but it is very rare that an "expert" delivers anything enlightening during a football broadcast. Compare that with something like cricket or rugby where you often get a genuine insight from the presenters/experts - something which leaves you in a more knowledgeable position than you were in before. Football - nah. It's also quite clear that a number of commentators/presenters/pundits don't really know the rules of the game and have their heads stuck in the 1970s.. And don't get me started on the Beeb's obsession with, during major tournaments, engaging people who can barely string together a coherent sentence in English (and I'm not talking about Keown and Shearer). Marcel Dessailly seems like a lovely bloke but I object to my licence fee being paid to him to tell me that "zey try to have make a nice occassions" or some other Boratesque gobbledegook (although admittedly Clarence Seedorf was decent and is a bit of a dude). Football broadcasting is complacent and self-indulgent. It may be something to do with the comparative intelligence and education levels of football players, rugby players and cricketers but really there is no excuse if producers are prepared to try a bit harder. There are several erudite and interesting pundits out there but they are usually resigned to some graveyard shift on 5Live whilst plonkers like Keown and Shearer lord it up on the sofa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All they need for the Football League Show is to f*** off Claridge and his dross and give the remaining games other than the feature more than 10 seconds air time. They saw some sense when they bombed off that tart reading out emails, she always managed to make whoever was writing in sound like a 10 year old. A complete waste of time and cannot understand how someone said "let's have a bird reading out various emails from people writing in, in between 10 second clips of games." and that was seen as bright. People get paid to come up with this shít and it gets my goat up. Actually the one thing they don't need to do is to dump Claridge. Its the other bloke that is the problem, knows nothing about football and is a real thrush. Claridge is actually very good, trouble is some on here are blinkered and can't see past his Skate connections, shame really because he is nearly always very complimentary about Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The standard is very poor. Tbf you can get all of the highlights online now, and with the limited analysis of games, where no notes of tactics are mentioned the coverage is limited and restricted purley to highlights. Not bothered really. Hopefully we won;t have to worry about it next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Very sad if they get rid of the FLS. With regards MOTD I too are bored with Hanson, Lawrenson et al, a clean sweep is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What annoys me is the lazy engagement of sub-standard pundits purely because they are ex-players. Now, they might know a bit about playing football but they are by-and-large inarticulate, of stunted perspicuity, complacent and ignorant about anything which doesn't involve their pet teams. Has Alan Shearer ever said anything interesting on a football programme.... ever? It might just be the fluid nature of football (as opposed to more staccato and tactics-dominated sports) and the fact that we all think we are experts but it is very rare that an "expert" delivers anything enlightening during a football broadcast. Compare that with something like cricket or rugby where you often get a genuine insight from the presenters/experts - something which leaves you in a more knowledgeable position than you were in before. Football - nah. It's also quite clear that a number of commentators/presenters/pundits don't really know the rules of the game and have their heads stuck in the 1970s.. And don't get me started on the Beeb's obsession with, during major tournaments, engaging people who can barely string together a coherent sentence in English (and I'm not talking about Keown and Shearer). Marcel Dessailly seems like a lovely bloke but I object to my licence fee being paid to him to tell me that "zey try to have make a nice occassions" or some other Boratesque gobbledegook (although admittedly Clarence Seedorf was decent and is a bit of a dude). Football broadcasting is complacent and self-indulgent. It may be something to do with the comparative intelligence and education levels of football players, rugby players and cricketers but really there is no excuse if producers are prepared to try a bit harder. There are several erudite and interesting pundits out there but they are usually resigned to some graveyard shift on 5Live whilst plonkers like Keown and Shearer lord it up on the sofa. many good points. However, as far as MOTD is concerned, I think Lee Dixon is excellent, and very good at explaining what defences should and shouldn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All they need for the Football League Show is to f*** off Claridge and his dross and give the remaining games other than the feature more than 10 seconds air time. They saw some sense when they bombed off that tart reading out emails, she always managed to make whoever was writing in sound like a 10 year old. A complete waste of time and cannot understand how someone said "let's have a bird reading out various emails from people writing in, in between 10 second clips of games." and that was seen as bright. People get paid to come up with this shít and it gets my goat up. I think Claridge is a brilliant pundit. He manages to be knowledgeable and articulate about 72 clubs every week. He is the best pundit on the BBC in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What annoys me is the lazy engagement of sub-standard pundits purely because they are ex-players. Now, they might know a bit about playing football but they are by-and-large inarticulate, of stunted perspicuity, complacent and ignorant about anything which doesn't involve their pet teams. Has Alan Shearer ever said anything interesting on a football programme.... ever? This is a good point. Sky is worse than BBC though, particularly on Soccer Saturday with Tony Cottee and Paul Merson with their "and then what he done Jeff" kind of talk. I don't have a problem at all with Claridge, I actually quite like him. I quite like the FLS but as it has 3 divisions to cover, it does sort of rush things a bit, but then if they only show the goals for Saints games, then Saints player has good highlights. As for MOTD, I rarely, if ever watch it because of its top 4 bias and dull pundits. Lawrenson is ok, but Shearer is as dull as dishwater and Hansen is so far up his own @rse it's not true. I also dislike the "analysis" which they purport to be the opinions/tactics of the pundits. If they were that good, they would be successful managers. I appreciate they aren't going to show Wigan v Stoke City as the top game if Man Utd are playing Arsenal for instance, but it's exactly that kind of bias that encourages the plastic fan to support the team that's marketed best as opposed to their local club. I guess football on BBC is just a reflection of football in this country as a whole, but would I miss the FLS if it was axed? If Saints got promoted, no, actually I wouldn't bother to watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 If they took the presenters and pundits from the Football League Show and put them on Match of the Day covering the Premier League stuff, would it make a blind bit of difference to the viewing figures? Nobody gives a flying one about what any pundit has to say, when was the last time anyone actually learned anything from one of their comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Thing is I always feel Claridge is a border line serial killer the way he stares down all the time. Im sure he's trying not to think about slaughtering the cheesey asian bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Thing is I always feel Claridge is a border line serial killer the way he stares down all the time. Im sure he's trying not to think about slaughtering the cheesey asian bloke. Why does he have to be referred to the "Asian" bloke you pleb?? Ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Thing is I always feel Claridge is a border line serial killer the way he stares down all the time. Im sure he's trying not to think about slaughtering the cheesey asian bloke. utter racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The time slot it is put on is the reason viewing figures are so low. By the time MotD has come on and gone iam too tired to watch the FLS. They have tried to make the show too trendy when really all fans want to see is the action and a little bot of opinion. As for Hansen getting 40k a programme, it shows how bloated and wasteful the BEEB is. Even the radio shows are about personality rather than the music, eg The Chris Moyles show, all about him, the Syeve Wright show ditto etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 utter racist There's no evidence Claridge is a racist, or Manish Bhasin for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 There's no evidence Claridge is a racist, or Manish Bhasin for that matter. you called some bloke 'asian".....racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 you called some bloke 'asian".....racist Are you hypo in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 MOTD punditry hasnt been ripping up tree's for years, especially compared to F1, Cricket, even Total Wipeout! 5live + FLS is where the real value is, dixon, lawro and claridge are all much better pundits off camara and provide insight before even wheeling out Motty + Pleat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Are you hypo in disguise? I think you are the hypo(crite) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 why is it a disgrace? clearly noone watches football outside the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Actually the one thing they don't need to do is to dump Claridge. Its the other bloke that is the problem, knows nothing about football and is a real thrush. Claridge is actually very good, trouble is some on here are blinkered and can't see past his Skate connections, shame really because he is nearly always very complimentary about Saints. Yeah I agree with this. I actually think Claridge is the best 'pundit' around. Good to listen to on 5 live Monday nights aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Couldn't care less who the presenters are i watch it for the highlights/goals. The thing is though if this happens then i think i will join the whole "We should no longer be forced to pay for BBC" bandwagon. Simply because with F1 gone the only other thing i watched was the footie. If BBC are trying to cut back by the 25% or so then surely our bill should be cut to seeing as we will have less choice/programmes? I wonder how much of that money is pumped into getting celebs on those dancing shows? People can bash Sky all they want and blame them for all the problems in the world. But the reality is i will pay to watch football. If Sky didn't show football or other sports i like i wouldn't pay them. If BBC don't show football or things i like then again why should i pay them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I think you are the hypo(crite) Shouldnt you be off launching missiles at innocent foreign civilians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Actually the one thing they don't need to do is to dump Claridge. Its the other bloke that is the problem, knows nothing about football and is a real thrush. Claridge is actually very good, trouble is some on here are blinkered and can't see past his Skate connections, shame really because he is nearly always very complimentary about Saints. What about his comments on Chaplow the other week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The main problem in my eyes is the time its broadcast, far too late at night. Otherwise its decent enough really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I'm with St.Marco on this one. From next season we are getting sub-standard F1 coverage and they are jacking in coverage of the football league. I understand the need to use licence payers money wisely but these are two of the most watched programs the BBC has outputted over the last few years, surely licence payer enjoyment has to come under consideration here? I know most people wouldn't give a flying one, as long as bargain hunt and Eastenders continue to get churned out, but its us blokes that are suffering the most. Why should we have to PAY to watch...nothing at all? Granted, I do like watching MOTD, but apart from that, the BBC never gets a look in (bar the odd documentary). I wouldn't be upset if the licence fee was reduced and the BBC started showing (some) adverts, if it meant we got to keep seeing top sport on the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Why does there need to be two football shows one after the other anyway? Match of the Day should do what its title suggests and cover all football in one programme rather than just the Premier League. I too like Claridge, i have always seen him as the acceptable face of Pompey. But the pundits are a watse of time anyway. I am sure millions like me record both shows and fast forward through the post match interviews and analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de-fence Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 you called some bloke 'asian".....racist And? He clearly has asian origins. Would it be racist if I referred to you as english (not that I know if you are or not). An attitude that I cannot stand. Anyway sorry for side-tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I usually go to bed before it comes on and watch it on Iplayer the following morning. Other than the featured game, the individual teams get very little coverage and Claridge barely has time to string a sentence together. I can use Saintsplayer to get a far more detailed analysis. I ca also use my login to access the player of other teams. The program will always be crap if they insist on cramming all 72 teams onto one show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchris23 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 This is a good point. Sky is worse than BBC though, particularly on Soccer Saturday with Tony Cottee and Paul Merson with their "and then what he done Jeff" kind of talk. However Match First is very good for PL games I appreciate they aren't going to show Wigan v Stoke City as the top game if Man Utd are playing Arsenal for instance, but it's exactly that kind of bias that encourages the plastic fan to support the team that's marketed best as opposed to their local club. I guess football on BBC is just a reflection of football in this country as a whole, but would I miss the FLS if it was axed? If Saints got promoted, no, actually I wouldn't bother to watch it The perfect summary. However the BBC realise that because they put all the highlights on their website that they don't need too spend a vast and substantial amount of money of a TV programme which most people record and watch back the next day anyway.....may as well look at the website. From a commercial point of view, I'm sure that ALL clubs would like to see MOTD and FLS disbanded to allow for them to charge for 'extended highlights' via their own media player. This won't happen whilst SKY pay so much for their coverage. I've often wondered how long it will take before clubs/SKY show all games live on a PPV or subscription. For ex-pats or fans that don't live a commutable distance it would be perfect. But then so would wi-fi in the ground....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I usually go to bed before it comes on and watch it on Iplayer the following morning. Other than the featured game, the individual teams get very little coverage and Claridge barely has time to string a sentence together. I can use Saintsplayer to get a far more detailed analysis. I ca also use my login to access the player of other teams. The program will always be crap if they insist on cramming all 72 teams onto one show. The problem there is that anyone who does stay up to watch it isn't going to want to watch extended highlights of (potentially) 36 games. Clearly every fan wants to be able to see extended highlights of their own club's games, with perhaps some/most also wanting to see the goals from the other games. What would be quite good on Saints Player (and the other FL club equivalents) is if Football League Interactive put together the goals from all the games into a package, which would then allow each club to produce a show that has extended highlights of their own game and then all the goals from the rest of the Football League. Get the Player software running via Xbox Live and you'd then have a marketable programme which would sell many more Player subscriptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 If they took the presenters and pundits from the Football League Show and put them on Match of the Day covering the Premier League stuff, would it make a blind bit of difference to the viewing figures? Nobody gives a flying one about what any pundit has to say, when was the last time anyone actually learned anything from one of their comments? Maybe but you have to say that Lineker and Hansen have become a pretty slick pairing, I think a Claridge and Shearer combination would get me watching switching off more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Actually the one thing they don't need to do is to dump Claridge. Its the other bloke that is the problem, knows nothing about football and is a real thrush. Claridge is actually very good, trouble is some on here are blinkered and can't see past his Skate connections, shame really because he is nearly always very complimentary about Saints. This x 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 You guys are missing my point about Claridge on the football league show. He is a good pundit, but the show doesn't have enough room for him. If they insist on showing 15 bloody minutes of one game then trying to squeeze everything else in after, I would rather just see football rather than listening to SC. Agreed on that Bashir guy, he really is awful. Let's be honest though, the BBC don't give a flying one about the football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Who gives a ****,the show is ****,it's on too late,the airtime you get if you're not fighting for promotion in the championship is a joke. Hopefully we won't require it's services again after the end of this season,never liked it so I hope it disappears up its own arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 You guys are missing my point about Claridge on the football league show. He is a good pundit, but the show doesn't have enough room for him. If they insist on showing 15 bloody minutes of one game then trying to squeeze everything else in after, I would rather just see football rather than listening to SC. Agreed on that Bashir guy, he really is awful. Let's be honest though, the BBC don't give a flying one about the football league. It' when you said '**** off Claridge and his dross' that does seem to suggest you are not a big fan of his presenting style... ****ing hell i'm defending Steve Claridge here!..what's happened to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Very sad if they get rid of the FLS. With regards MOTD I too are bored with Hanson, Lawrenson et al, a clean sweep is required.agree they should merge football league show with match of the day and sack all the match of the day presenters who are past their sale by date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 So annoying, the FL show is excellent, even with Claridge. Best show for the many football fans of non-PL sides. I wouldn't mind but I imagine far more money will continue being spent on appalling dance competitions, reality shows, soaps, medical **** and utterly vacuous aaaaaaaarse.got to agree i think claridge is very good at his job far better than shearer ,lawrenceson etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 MOTD is awful in my view - boring clips of boring teams with over-paid mercenaries - and the so-called pundits are just totally predictable. I think Lawrenson is the worst of the lot - they all need replacing with some new blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benali Saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Not happy with this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What about his comments on Chaplow the other week? What about them? [i have no idea what he said and wouldn't change my opinion even if I did] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 no drama...only ever watched it if we were the main game (not often) saints player all the way (or goals on sunday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What about them? [i have no idea what he said and wouldn't change my opinion even if I did[/b]] Slightly odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Right, I'm involved with the Football League Show, and here's how I understand it. Negotiations are ongoing regarding the BBC getting an extension to their current contract. That's been happening for a while. It's unlikely the BBC will be able to afford it though, and they've already made cutbacks to the programme as it is. Forget the fact that they couldn't do two programmes over the festive period, the programme is no longer shown live in order to cut back on operating costs, it's pre-recorded in the Chiswick studios belonging to ESPN/Disney. Next year the BBC are rolling out HD on absolutely everything, which includes the cameramen and women that do the games, and it's not cheap to change them from digi-beta cameras to HD. So it's looking likely that the BBC will lose out and all the coverage will go to Sky. Sky will then, to compensate for Sky-less people like myself, put free highlights online. We're facing two scenarios - it stays how it is, minus the handful of live BBC games, or it all goes to Sky, who will do free online highlights to appease those of us without access to $ky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 got to agree i think claridge is very good at his job far better than shearer ,lawrenceson etc They'd never hire him on MOTD because he was a FL journeyman rather than a PL superstar. It's a shame that they work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The current format of FLS is dreadful. The whole 'empty Crimewatch studio' thing is bizarre. Manish is utterly redundant, which in a way is a good thing (the 'presenter' should not be doubling up as a pundit), but it means that with only one other contributor, the entire show hangs around Claridge. Despite the fact that he is actually very knowledgeable, he rivals Hansen/Shearer in the 'charisma-vacuum' stakes. The thing that makes it odd is that the BBC already uses a plethora of very good football journos on the website and the radio (apart from that cretin McNulty), and they are the exact sort of people who should be doing spots on FLS. It would leave Manish to be purely the anchorman, Claridge as the permanent pundit, and a revolving roster of guests who actually know what they are talking about and could provide a breadth of insight and knowledge. It would also give the BBC a viable opportunity to properly exploit a multi-channel offering. There is arguably far too much football across the three leagues to do anything more than a simple clip-show, and given the tribalistic nature of football supporting, the obvious thing to do would be provide a summary show on live TV supported by smaller more in depth focused segments delivered via on-demand, iplayer, etc. You never know, it could even provide a desperately needed template of reform for MOTD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 It' when you said '**** off Claridge and his dross' that does seem to suggest you are not a big fan of his presenting style... ****ing hell i'm defending Steve Claridge here!..what's happened to me? I meant it in treat I would sooner see longer clips than listen to him talk. TBH I couldn't really give a monkeys what he has to say as its never anything ground breaking which is why I would bomb him off. Hearing that it could go to sky though... FFS now I'm unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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