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Xherdan Shaqiri - £8million move to Southampton

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Was this ever actually confirmed? He isnt listed anywhere i can find as being a scout for us.

 

Just this: http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Friis-Hansen-skal-hjaelpe-Saints-i-PrL

 

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Friis-Hansen should help the Saints in PRL

 

 

The former midfielder Jacob Friis-Hansen has been hired as Director of the European Recruitment in tradition club Southampton, which he will assist in the Premier League as early as next season.

 

The former midfielder Jacob Friis-Hansen stopped as scout in Liverpool in January but has now got itself a new and exciting job in the tradition of the club Southampton, who recently secured the direct promotion from League One to the Championship.Friis-Hansen is appointed with immediate effect as Director of the European Recruitment. - It is a newly created job that you have not had the club for a number of seasons now. I must be some kind of sports director at the European market. That is to say that I am responsible for finding players and create a scouting department with full-and part-time employees. It is an incredibly exciting job and I am excited to get started, says Friis-Hansen bold.dk.Southampton moved after 27 years in England's top flight in 2005 and slipped out later into the third best series in a period marked of major economic problems. But both League One and the economic woes are past now, and Friis-Hansen come under great pressure from day one. - The club has a clear objective to advance directly to the Premier League, so we're going to find 5:00 to 6:00 quality players during the summer. I'll probably find three players, which in principle are good enough to play Premier League, but have the mentality to play the Championship in one or maximum two seasons, which is the deadline to move up, says Friis-Hansen. It can readily sounds like a somewhat overly ambitious goal, but the club has the means and facilities to pursue their dreams into reality. - The club is owned by the Swiss Liebherr family. They are wealthy and willing, it will cost. Short term goal Premier League, but in the longer term they will also in the Champions League and dominate the top of English football. - In addition the club has an academy in line with the very best in England. The developments include players like Theo Walcott and Gareth Bale, and it says little about the quality. And we are committed to developing both the academy and stadium facilities, if necessary. Southampton team is already quite talented with names like Adam Lallana, Morgan Schneiderlin and not least the teenager Alex Chamberlain.mikael@bold.dk

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Ok, assuming this is in any way true. It could be as much about raising profile then any genuine chance of signing the guy. A signal of intent for the future that will hopefully ensure we are taken seriously by other clubs in the footballing community.

 

Of course, it needs that assumption in the first place.

 

Do you not think that would be a very odd thing to do? To try and sign a player that we have no chance of signing to indicate that we might be able to sign a player like this in the future?

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Do you not think that would be a very odd thing to do? To try and sign a player that we have no chance of signing to indicate that we might be able to sign a player like this in the future?

 

It is how Manchester City operated regarding Kaka. They had the resources to sign him but at the time the club wasn't in the position to make the move credible. The ambition that showed may have played a part in opening the ideas of the likes of David Silva, Yaya Touré and others to listening to what they had to say.

 

Any publicity can be good publicity if manipulated in the right way, as such I wouldn't think it odd at all.

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No harm in bidding for players such as Shaqiri (even if NC / NA know that there is zero chance of him wanting to join us)

 

It sends out a great message to our ACTUAL targets...

 

Well there is because it costs time and money. It's not like FM you know where you just stick a bid on the computer and wait for it to be accepted or rejected. Bids have to be prepared, checked by lawyers, agents spoken to and dealt with before you've even spoken to the player. If we are d*cking about making bids for players we have no chance of signing you have to question why. And it sends out the message to our ACTUAL targets that they are second or third choice and we want them because we couldn't get someone else. Not forgetting other clubs knowing we have at least £8m to spend. It's a pointless and foolish thing to do. Especially when clubs like Man United want him.

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Ok, assuming this is in any way true. It could be as much about raising profile then any genuine chance of signing the guy. A signal of intent for the future that will hopefully ensure we are taken seriously by other clubs in the footballing community.

 

Of course, it needs that assumption in the first place.

 

This. Nothing at all wrong with putting down a marker that this is the sort of player we want. The European scout Friis-Hansen says:

I'll probably find three players, which in principle are good enough to play Premier League, but have the mentality to play the Championship in one or maximum two seasons, which is the deadline to move up

 

OK, so this player will probably go to an existing Premiership club, but a clear indication will be out there that we are ambitious and that this is the sort of player we are after, furthermore, that we could afford both the signing on fee and his wages. If indeed we are after him but don't get him, then it will have cost us nothing to gain the free publicity that signals our intent to other players who might be targeted in future.

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Well there is because it costs time and money. It's not like FM you know where you just stick a bid on the computer and wait for it to be accepted or rejected. Bids have to be prepared, checked by lawyers, agents spoken to and dealt with before you've even spoken to the player. If we are d*cking about making bids for players we have no chance of signing you have to question why. And it sends out the message to our ACTUAL targets that they are second or third choice and we want them because we couldn't get someone else. Not forgetting other clubs knowing we have at least £8m to spend. It's a pointless and foolish thing to do. Especially when clubs like Man United want him.

 

I'm not saying SFC have done this, but I can see some sense in releasing a story about how we have made a bid for "player X", even if we haven't gone down the correct route (Don't forget, all a club needs to do it fax an offer to the parent club for it to count as a "bid")

 

I think the story is nonsense anyway, but playing devils advocate, I could see such a ploy to be quite a good bit of positive PR prior to the Jan window opening up.

 

Its like speed camera's, its a hell of a lot cheaper to put signs up saying speed camera's are present, than to actually install the speed camera - its has the same desired effect.

 

As for our actual targets being put off, I don't think I have enough time to list all the players that have signed for a club after the clubs 1st choice target hadn't worked out.

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I'm not saying SFC have done this, but I can see some sense in releasing a story about how we have made a bid for "player X", even if we haven't gone down the correct route (Don't forget, all a club needs to do it fax an offer to the parent club for it to count as a "bid")

 

I think the story is nonsense anyway, but playing devils advocate, I could see such a ploy to be quite a good bit of positive PR prior to the Jan window opening up.

 

Its like speed camera's, its a hell of a lot cheaper to put signs up saying speed camera's are present, than to actually install the speed camera - its has the same desired effect.

 

As for our actual targets being put off, I don't think I have enough time to list all the players that have signed for a club after the clubs 1st choice target hadn't worked out.

 

I think it's utterly pointless. All it does is let selling clubs know how much we have to spend and lets our real targets know that they aren't our first choice. Leicester are saying Billy Sharp is theres, but Billy might now think we want this other fella first and he isn't our number one target, ie Leicester want him more.

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I think it's utterly pointless. All it does is let selling clubs know how much we have to spend and lets our real targets know that they aren't our first choice. Leicester are saying Billy Sharp is theres, but Billy might now think we want this other fella first and he isn't our number one target, ie Leicester want him more.

 

A) Everyone knows we have (at least) the AOC money.

B) Sharpe and Shaqiri don't play in the same position

 

This is the last of my 3 for the day, so I don't want to end on a bad note Turkish. Like I said, i think its all bullsh*t anyway, but I can see some sense in signalling some intent.

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I've got no idea who this guy is...none whatsoever...in fact, I have no idea who anyone in the Prem is these days...

 

One of the biggest talents in Europe, seen him play a few times and he's always the best player on the park. Even in his two matches against Man Utd this season.

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One of the biggest talents in Europe, seen him play a few times and he's always the best player on the park. Even in his two matches against Man Utd this season.

 

I hasten to add we would have absolutely no chance in signing him but if the club is scouting players of his calibre it can only be a good thing!

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I think it's utterly pointless. All it does is let selling clubs know how much we have to spend and lets our real targets know that they aren't our first choice. Leicester are saying Billy Sharp is theres, but Billy might now think we want this other fella first and he isn't our number one target, ie Leicester want him more.

 

I am surprised at you even thinking that SFC has bid for this player.

 

Cortese would never do a thing like that he is very ethical he threw Liverpool's bid for OXO in the bin as they treating us with contempt but I did hear there was another foreign player being shown around St Mary's before Christmas

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I am surprised at you even thinking that SFC has bid for this player.

 

Cortese would never do a thing like that he is very ethical he threw Liverpool's bid for OXO in the bin as they treating us with contempt but I did hear there was another foreign player being shown around St Mary's before Christmas

 

I dont i think it's bullsh*t. That is the point, some people are saying it's a good idea to bid for him as a statement of intent. I'm saying it's totallly pointless bidding for a player we have absolutely no chance of signing.

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It's only a rumour stop crying about it. I only posted it as it came from someone at work who I did'nt know very well on a personal level and he seemed very shocked himself at it. Some of you get yourselves 'at it' way to easily. It's an internet forum, you've spent enough time trolling on this thread so stop playing up to it. Its a rumour, from a random yet creditable source who doesnt need to waste his breath or time talking 'bull****' when he works full time at a PL club.

 

I fully accept this as one of the most ridiculous rumours ever , please don't get this confused FFS.

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No harm in bidding for players such as Shaqiri (even if NC / NA know that there is zero chance of him wanting to join us)

 

It sends out a great message to our ACTUAL targets...

Thats true. After all, look at how well it turned out for Venkys when they pitched up at Ewood Park and said they were going to sign Ronaldinho and Beckham

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I hasten to add we would have absolutely no chance in signing him but if the club is scouting players of his calibre it can only be a good thing!

 

How can it be a good thing to scout players of his calibre if they are not going to sign? That is just a waste of time and money isn't? Should we not be scouting players who will sign? And would someone like Sharpe, for example, be impressed by the fact we were scouting players far better than him? Sorry guys, even the OPer says this rumour is rubbish but he felt compelled to put it up for all to see.

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Bids have to be prepared, checked by lawyers, agents spoken to and dealt with before you've even spoken to the player. If we are d*cking about making bids for players we have no chance of signing you have to question why.

 

I think the bid is unlikely but then I remember Keegan's signing which was so completely unexpected all those years ago. But one thing the club don't seem to do these days is "dicking about", so IF there has been a bid it will be entirely serious, and there will have been discreet soundings out before anything gets really made public.

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I think the bid is unlikely but then I remember Keegan's signing which was so completely unexpected all those years ago. But one thing the club don't seem to do these days is "dicking about", so IF there has been a bid it will be entirely serious, and there will have been discreet soundings out before anything gets really made public.

 

I wish people would stop banging on about the Keegan signing. It was 30 years ago, football has changed beyond all recognition since those days. The biggest signing we have made since Lawries days is Kevin Phillips. Who was a past his best premier league striker. Why would one of Europes biggest talents join us ahead of Man United?! Yet whenever we are linked with implausible potential signings all we hear is "well Keegan signed" FFS.

 

And the club **** about more now than ever. Heres a few names for you. Jamal, Jasper Goarkss, Liam Fontaine, Matt Phillips, Jay Rodriguez, ELLIOTT WARD!!!!! Oh I forgot, my happy clappy mask to fit in on here slipped. Remember Keegan signed, in Cortese we trust, I'm on the bus etc etc.

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Based on the premise spouted by experts on the subject that players are just like Supermarket shelf-stackers and will change jobs for an extra £1 an hour, why is it then impossible for us to sign this sort of player, provided that we offer the metaphorical extra quid?

 

It isn't impossible. Based on the premise spouted by our experts on the subject that anything could happen because they said man would never climb everest or walk on the moon, it is entirely possible that europes biggest talent chased by most of Europes top clubs would ignore them all to come and play in the championship to help fullfil Cortese vision for a fraction of the money he could get elsewhere.

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