LGTL Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All this crap about not knowing they were on sale originally is just that, crap. When there is a big game a matter of weeks away, how hard is it to check the OS for 2 seconds each day? After all the majority of you are on here most days...Those who have them are rightly all sth's too, so all's well that ends well. Personally can't wait for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Poor show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Just give up, you didnt get a ticket, stop blaming everyone else. Your argument is pathetic. Not hard to work out is it... We had an initial 2000 sell out in a matter of hours. Therefore an additional small allocation is going to be no more than a couple of hundred at the most. Even if you knew the number, the majority of people would still turn up and chance it. Even if they told you earlier that they didnt have enough tickets you would still moan, christ! You alright mate? Seems like someones a bit obsessed with all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Just give up, you didnt get a ticket, stop blaming everyone else. Your argument is pathetic. Not hard to work out is it... We had an initial 2000 sell out in a matter of hours. Therefore an additional small allocation is going to be no more than a couple of hundred at the most. Even if you knew the number, the majority of people would still turn up and chance it. Even if they told you earlier that they didnt have enough tickets you would still moan, christ! I think you are missing the point. I go along with everything you have written, but the issue for me is why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket - WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Stop f*cking moaning, if you wanted a ticket that bad you should have got your ass out of bed earlier.This! Some people are not happy unless their moaning. Bring back Lowe, I say!! Then you really will have something to moan about!! Get a grip FFS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I can't see what the problem is, the first batch were available for 6 hours when they were first released. Surely enough time to get yourself on the phone, online or down to the stadium to purchase one. Not if you were at work in an environment where I cant use my phone freely. Sad disappointed face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I think you are missing the point. I go along with everything you have written, but the issue for me is why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket - WHY? This. Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Anyway as there were apparently 2200 or so tickets for 13000 ST holders for an easy bank holiday jaunt 60 miles down the coast on the motorway there are bound to be a lot of disappointed customers.Most away grounds just aren't big enough for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Brighton are such a poxy small club with a small mentality hence one of the most spanking new stadia in Britain having just 3000 capacity in an away end that will house the likes of SFC,Leeds,West Ham,Derby,Forest etc etc. Away day demand wise we badly need to be back in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All this crap about not knowing they were on sale originally is just that, crap. When there is a big game a matter of weeks away, how hard is it to check the OS for 2 seconds each day? After all the majority of you are on here most days...Those who have them are rightly all sth's too, so all's well that ends well. Personally can't wait for it. Well myself and a few others missed the late Thursday night announcement and only realised they were on sale (and almost sold out) when I looked at my phone on the Friday afternoon. Is it the norm for big demand games to have a late night announcement the evening before they go on sale??? Is it the norm for big demand games not to implement any sort of ballot/priority selling?? As for this morning, well they were always going to be overwhelmed, but they could have saved a few hundred people an unnecessary queue once it was obvious demand was going to out strip supply. None of the above are rocket science and could easily have been resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 um, you are making out there is a deep lying problem..you missed out...unlucky really but many people are going to have to miss out. plenty it seems knew pretty much what was going on and what it would take to get tickets......just a shame you never unlucky really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Brighton are such a poxy small club with a small mentality hence one of the most spanking new stadia in Britain having just 3000 capacity in an away end that will house the likes of SFC,Leeds,West Ham,Derby,Forest etc etc. Away day demand wise we badly need to be back in the prem. 3000 is the most you will get at the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United, Man City, Newcastle, Spurs and Everton, are they poxy small clubs too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 um, you are making out there is a deep lying problem..you missed out...unlucky really but many people are going to have to miss out. plenty it seems knew pretty much what was going on and what it would take to get tickets......just a shame you never unlucky really You seem to be deliberately missing the point, just answer this very simple question; why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I already have one but feel sorry for people that had to queue for several hours without being told they werent going to get one. When Dave Luker was in charge he had the best ticket method which worked perfectly. Give each category a few days and then no one can have any complaints. ST Holders 3 away games or more Members 3 away games or more ST Holders Members General sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 You seem to be deliberately missing the point, just answer this very simple question; why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket that is valid....hardly the end of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 um, you are making out there is a deep lying problem..you missed out...unlucky really but many people are going to have to miss out. plenty it seems knew pretty much what was going on and what it would take to get tickets......just a shame you never unlucky really Well there seem to be a fair few who don't think our ticketing arrangements are up to scratch (and the criticisms arent just restricted to this match). Personally I don't think they have been as proactive and as organised since Luker left, but that might just be a coincidence. Certainly don't think just having a free for all with such short notice for a high demand game is the best way of distributing tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I think you are missing the point. I go along with everything you have written, but the issue for me is why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket - WHY? Agreed, the point is why the club let hundreds of fans who clearly were never going to get a ticket queue. But hey Gemmel I'm not going to moan about it as many others haven't grasped that :-) the ticket office manager would have known that at least 80% of people in the queue didn't have a cat in hells chance. I'll make the trip anyway, it will be a good day out and you never know might get one by off chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Well there seem to be a fair few who don't think our ticketing arrangements are up to scratch (and the criticisms arent just restricted to this match). Personally I don't think they have been as proactive and as organised since Luker left, but that might just be a coincidence. Certainly don't think just having a free for all with such short notice for a high demand game is the best way of distributing tickets. fair enough but many do come across with such sour grapes when even I knew about the ticket arrangements..and I am no where near the ground...a phone call and checking the OS was all it took....some are making out things are a "shambles"....really..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 You seem to be deliberately missing the point, just answer this very simple question; why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket They were probably too busy selling tickets to notice how long the queue was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 that is valid....hardly the end of the world So people can only complain about things on here that are the 'end of the world'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 3000 is the most you will get at the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United, Man City, Newcastle, Spurs and Everton, are they poxy small clubs too? Really? In grounds twice or 3 times the size of the amex we'll only be likely to get 3000? Genuine question.. I didnt attend many aways back in prem days.. A bit young and not as into it.. Are there not minimum percentage limits as proportion of stadium size? My bad if thats correct. I was just under the impression places like Emirates, Old Trafford, St James park would accommodate 5000 if necessary, still well under 10% of capacity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All this crap about not knowing they were on sale originally is just that, crap. When there is a big game a matter of weeks away, how hard is it to check the OS for 2 seconds each day? After all the majority of you are on here most days...Those who have them are rightly all sth's too, so all's well that ends well. Personally can't wait for it. What a lot of people on here don't realise is a lot of Saints fans don't have anywhere near as much access to the internet as many of us do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What a lot of people on here don't realise is a lot of Saints fans don't have anywhere near as much access to the internet as many of us do. you are on here most days......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Really? In grounds twice or 3 times the size of the amex we'll only be likely to get 3000? Genuine question.. I didnt attend many aways back in prem days.. A bit young and not as into it.. Are there not minimum percentage limits as proportion of stadium size? My bad if thats correct. I was just under the impression places like Emirates, Old Trafford, St James park would accommodate 5000 if necessary, still well under 10% of capacity.. is 10%, upto maximum of 3,000. 3k is the max you get at just about any premier league game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 you are on here most days......? What is wrong with you? Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Really? In grounds twice or 3 times the size of the amex we'll only be likely to get 3000? Genuine question.. I didnt attend many aways back in prem days.. A bit young and not as into it.. Are there not minimum percentage limits as proportion of stadium size? My bad if thats correct. I was just under the impression places like Emirates, Old Trafford, St James park would accommodate 5000 if necessary, still well under 10% of capacity.. The rule in league games is the lower amount of 3,000 or 10% of capacity, with various caveats depending on how easy it is to segregate sections of the ground, etc. For cup games, it's 15%, although there's been some sort of row between Man City and Man United about United's allocation for their forthcoming FA Cup game at Old Trafford. In theory, they should be entitled to around 7100 tickets, but City have restricted their allocation to 5500 on the grounds of "safety". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What a lot of people on here don't realise is a lot of Saints fans don't have anywhere near as much access to the internet as many of us do. Or they do have access, but choose not to spend their lives surfing!!!!! The original announcement and timing was not the best advert for how to communicate with your supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 What a lot of people on here don't realise is a lot of Saints fans don't have anywhere near as much access to the internet as many of us do. Fact is the club don't give a sh!te, and why should they? They know they would flog all the tickets, it makes no difference to them if non internet users don't get any or if people queued for 2 hours. We just have to accept that we are being run by a hard nosed business man, all that matters is the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 My gf and mate tried and failed this morning. If the figure of 160 tickets had been released I might not have asked them to go down with me. Another poxy display. This game needed more restrictions and ballots than the skate game! Sounds like a top notch mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Glad I didn't bother going down this morning, would missed out as I was going to get down there at around 7:15. Seeing the thread, the ticket office should have made this batch of Brighton Tickets "one per person". It isn't fair that someone could get more than one just because they had more than one season ticket on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.3 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The simple answer is to start supporting the blue few down the road as they always have spare tickets for away games as well as plenty for home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 The rule in league games is the lower amount of 3,000 or 10% of capacity, with various caveats depending on how easy it is to segregate sections of the ground, etc. For cup games, it's 15%, although there's been some sort of row between Man City and Man United about United's allocation for their forthcoming FA Cup game at Old Trafford. In theory, they should be entitled to around 7100 tickets, but City have restricted their allocation to 5500 on the grounds of "safety". Nice one. So every prem away game if and when we get there is going to be a dog fight for tickets I guess. Cheers for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Nice one. So every prem away game if and when we get there is going to be a dog fight for tickets I guess. Cheers for the info. I wouldn't necessarily say so. I for one won't be particularly bothered about getting a ticket at Stamford Bridge and paying £45 for the dubious privilege. Certainly, when we were last in the top flight, we very rarely sold out away games as most of the away following had been to all the main grounds countless times before. I'd expect that to change for the first season if we go up, although there might still be some games where we struggle to sell very many. Places like Fulham and Chelsea are obviously easy to get to, but they'll probably charge a fortune. Fulham's away ticket prices vary quite a lot, for games against the likes of Blackburn and Bolton it'll be £20, but they charged both Man United and Man City fans £55 this season because they knew they'd sell the tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 You lot are hilarious... Its always someone else fault when you dont get a ticket isnt it. The ballots are done manually, everything manually! Do you really think they have time to do both the Pompey and Brighton games so close to Christmas?! Majority of away games are on restricted sales, i.e. one per season tickets holder, this is one of the perks of having a ST. People saying the tickets werent properly advertised... funny how I knew about them and managed to get 4 at 9am when the initial allocation went on sale. If you want them enough, you search for the information yourself, it is there! It took me 5 mins to get mine over the phone, can you not use your mobile for 5 mins at work and buy them? And finally them not saying how many they have left and saying small allocation... Even if they said 150 left, majority of you would go down and try. Anyway stop trying to blame others for YOU not getting a ticket. Tough luck. When theres limited sales, people will miss out, deal with it. Rant over. Well said, Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I already have one but feel sorry for people that had to queue for several hours without being told they werent going to get one. When Dave Luker was in charge he had the best ticket method which worked perfectly. Give each category a few days and then no one can have any complaints. ST Holders 3 away games or more Members 3 away games or more ST Holders Members General sale this is how it should be,then us who have done aways get a look in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 They were probably too busy selling tickets to notice how long the queue was. Anyway who was to say that the queue was only for Brighton tickets? Isn't there a game on tomorrow evening or something,tickets for that might be considered as worth queueing for as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 Managed to get a few somehow, looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 All this crap about not knowing they were on sale originally is just that, crap. When there is a big game a matter of weeks away, how hard is it to check the OS for 2 seconds each day? After all the majority of you are on here most days...Those who have them are rightly all sth's too, so all's well that ends well. Personally can't wait for it. What a load of sanctimonious guff. It's not always possible for people to check the website every day, there wasn't even 24 hours notice so you could have checked the day before and still missed out anyway. It really isn't too much to expect the ticket office to give a few days notice of tickets going on sale, especially given that's what people have come to expect. I couldn't go to Brighton anyway but it's reasonable for people to be annoyed at missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 I have a ticket in the home end with a Brighton supporting friend. No we won't be holding hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 29 December, 2011 Share Posted 29 December, 2011 You seem to be deliberately missing the point, just answer this very simple question; why they let 500 people queue for two hours, knowing that they didnt stand a chance of getting a ticket Whilst I'm sorry for yours and others' angst, I can't help but feel from a marketing perspective it's a cute trick. There were several hundred disappointed fans today, some of whom have let many others know of their disappointment. Thus increasing the urgency with which fans will buy tickets for remaining fixtures. "I don't want to miss out like those folks did for Brighton tickets...." Ultimately, the club will try and sell as many tickets as possible. Anything that creates the reality, or perception, of demand outstripping supply, adds to demand....and happy days for ticket sales. And before anyone jumps back with a "upsetting fans is a bad thing", football fans are notoriously loyal, it's not like changing your supermarket..... So, whilst I can relate to the annoyance of the fans who queued without success, perhaps the club had some method in their madness. (or probably more realistically, they just didnt give it a moment's thought!!!!!) But before we hang the ticket office organisers, maybe we should wonder when the last time tickets went on sale and physical presence meant tickets for some and not for others? The internet and telephone lines has lessened the need to sell tickets by hand....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 30 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2011 Brighton are such a poxy small club with a small mentality hence one of the most spanking new stadia in Britain having just 3000 capacity in an away end that will house the likes of SFC,Leeds,West Ham,Derby,Forest etc etc. Away day demand wise we badly need to be back in the prem. You're gonna be even more disappointed then as the away capacity at the Amex is just a shade over 2,400. That's all the away end holds, so as we sold out in just a few hours the day they went on sale but they then found another 150 to put on sale yesterday you can only assume this 150 must have fallen under a desk or something! The only grounds in the Prem that have given more than 10% to 'aways' for league games in recent years are the likes of Wigan, Fulham, Bolton, Blackburn, skates and other small clubs that just can't fill their grounds themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfire Double Posted 30 December, 2011 Share Posted 30 December, 2011 I have a ticket in the home end with a Brighton supporting friend. No we won't be holding hands. Ditto (on both counts!) Less than ideal, I've never watched Saints from inside enemy territory before and I'm going to have to work quite hard not to make my true colours painfully evident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 To add insult to injury at missing out the first time round, I asked the ticket office if there was any chance of us getting anymore tickets and was told in no uncertain terms that there was no chance and that there was no point me asking again or checking the website with a view to seeing if some had been released. Then I hear on the grapevine that there will be some more but that they're essentially only available to the unemployed or retired because you need to be prepared to go and get the bloody things in person. All this after not getting round to checking the official website on a thursday, but logging on on a Friday afternoon to find out that an initial allocation of tickets have been announced, released and sold out all in less than 24 hours. And I have NO REASON to be at all annoyed according to some? This is a monumental cockup by the ticket office. How hard would it be to have some policies in place that say there will be a minimum period of 72 hours or something similar between tickets being announced and actually going sale so that there is a chance for news to filter through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benali Saint Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 2 people I know were in the queue on thursday morning andf didnt get a ticket. Then then had a right whige at the ticket office and have also emailed and Phoned to complain. They have been give tickets to the game. Despite not being season ticket holders and 1 of them has never been to an away game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 2 people I know were in the queue on thursday morning andf didnt get a ticket. Then then had a right whige at the ticket office and have also emailed and Phoned to complain. They have been give tickets to the game. Despite not being season ticket holders and 1 of them has never been to an away game. Please get me one someone. Desperate to see us show our metal and bounce back. Last night hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 31 December, 2011 Share Posted 31 December, 2011 still need a ticket anyone,well peed my son is going,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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