derry Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I couldn't have put it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I do apologise derry... I meant to say 3rd best coach behind NA..... You come way before me;) Merry Xmas coach:D WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 We will have to agree to disagree regarding some of our players. I see Morgan as a squad player only at this stage and have not seen any significant imput from him in helping us win games to date. Whereas the combination of Cork and Hammond is what I think makes the team more likely to win games with the interaction with the likes of Lambert , Lallana and Chappers. Peeps on here think it is a personal thing with MS, on my part.. but totally untrue.....Just do not see him as a defensive lynchpin or the so called cog/link up player that some advocate.... Yes he has potential and the manager has brought him into the side in this diamond formation recently.....but he has not shown an aptitude for right side midfielder or at the point, supporting Lambert. We need to win games again and Morgan is not the answer....De Ridder if given a chance will score and make goals and with the others get us back on the winning trail.....Chappers and Connolly in the same vain..but Morgan out the side would not be missed. Personal choice on how I see the side and normally I would accept Nigel getting it right most of the time....but Morgan in the side..not for me and the set up recently has cost us a lot of points. But whoever is in the side will get my support and encouragement......but please NA get it right against Palace and thereafter. All the above is personal opinion and not to be taken to seriously... Cause you all know, I am only second best coach in the world behind NA:rolleyes: I don't argue with any of that, but I would add it's a lot closer than the picture you paint. Hammond has the problem with going off the boil the more games he plays and minutes on the pitch. That's mainly because he gets through so much work. For those times and when Cork is flagging, it's right to bring Schneiderlin on or start him. If you can't start Schneiderlin in the middle, I would not bother unless it is to seal off the midfield defensively. He's a good player who should be gettng plenty of game time, just not as much as the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 When SDR played up at Donny, it was clear he was told to stick on the line. Frazer got the ball & the space in front of him had SDR in it which stopped some of attacking options. I think he needs to start & have a run of games. I would drop Guly on Boxing day & start with SDR in a 4 - 5 - 1 where he & Lallana get forward to support Rickie. I bet Palace come with a 4-5-1 & try & hit us with the undoubted pace they have. Just like the last 5 games we have played where we have won 5 out of 15 points. Hammond was my MOM at the fish ****ers, but my starting 2 in midfield would be Morgan & Cork. I really struggle with people who rate Hammond & indeed Cork in front of Morgan. If we have the ball the opposition does not score & he above all others in our team maintains possession. If you want all action huff & puff by all means go with Hammond & Cork, but not creative passing football. We are actually very very lucky to have all 3 IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 We will have to agree to disagree regarding some of our players. I see Morgan as a squad player only at this stage and have not seen any significant imput from him in helping us win games to date. Whereas the combination of Cork and Hammond is what I think makes the team more likely to win games with the interaction with the likes of Lambert , Lallana and Chappers. Peeps on here think it is a personal thing with MS, on my part.. but totally untrue.....Just do not see him as a defensive lynchpin or the so called cog/link up player that some advocate.... Yes he has potential and the manager has brought him into the side in this diamond formation recently.....but he has not shown an aptitude for right side midfielder or at the point, supporting Lambert. We need to win games again and Morgan is not the answer....De Ridder if given a chance will score and make goals and with the others get us back on the winning trail.....Chappers and Connolly in the same vain..but Morgan out the side would not be missed. Personal choice on how I see the side and normally I would accept Nigel getting it right most of the time....but Morgan in the side..not for me and the set up recently has cost us a lot of points. But whoever is in the side will get my support and encouragement......but please NA get it right against Palace and thereafter. All the above is personal opinion and not to be taken to seriously... Cause you all know, I am only second best coach in the world behind NA:rolleyes: Agree completely. I think Adkins has made several mistakes recently. Unfortunately these have coincided with some individual player errors and cost us some points. Obviously he has done a wonderful job though and there isn't a better all round team than us in the league so I'm confident it will be back to normal soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Teams have to compete for about the first hour to earn the right to play, that means to me in the really tight competitive games giving Hammond and Cork the nod. Schneiderlin coming on with the other two to close out the last twenty minutes works, as does starting in central midfield in the less competitive games but not as an attacker or wide midfielder. Having said that any two from three still gives us an effective midfield however the goal output from central midfield is poor and that makes for a real lack of goals when the three play together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I do apologise derry... I meant to say 3rd best coach behind NA..... You come way before me;) Merry Xmas coach:D WIFM Thanks OSM, Happy Christmas to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Watch Morgan Schneiderlin's game carefully and it seems to me abundantly clear that not only is he one of the most technically accomplished players in our squad, but he'd also get into almost any midfield in this division on merit. Often overshadowed by Adam Lallana, I was very pleased for him to see his obvious talent acknowledged in front of a national TV audience last Sunday. However, I share the frustration of many on here that he seems incapable of turning that well nurtured ability with a football at his feet into more goals scored. He's good enough to score frequently you'd have thought, but lacks the composure in front of goal for some reason. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater ! As for SDR - You could say he's on a hiding to nothing because we've replaced a £15m player with a lad who's just not in that league frankly. Even baring that in mind, I still can't say that I'm all that impressed with what I've seen so far in all honesty. Perhaps he's trying too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint. Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 SDR Should have be given the chance to play wide on the right in the skates game where we were crying out for some width further up the field, Im sure he would have torn them to pieces, also got in some more crosses for ricky, I have a lot of time for SDR always seems up for the fight, and has lots of emthusiasm, unlike guly who just looks like he worn out after the first 10 mins and blows hot and cold, just goes to show we need more players in asap to fill the gaps when injuries and suspentions affect us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 When SDR played up at Donny, it was clear he was told to stick on the line. Frazer got the ball & the space in front of him had SDR in it which stopped some of attacking options. I think he needs to start & have a run of games. I would drop Guly on Boxing day & start with SDR in a 4 - 5 - 1 where he & Lallana get forward to support Rickie. I bet Palace come with a 4-5-1 & try & hit us with the undoubted pace they have. Just like the last 5 games we have played where we have won 5 out of 15 points. Hammond was my MOM at the fish ****ers, but my starting 2 in midfield would be Morgan & Cork. I really struggle with people who rate Hammond & indeed Cork in front of Morgan. If we have the ball the opposition does not score & he above all others in our team maintains possession. If you want all action huff & puff by all means go with Hammond & Cork, but not creative passing football. We are actually very very lucky to have all 3 IMHO. If you play Lambert up front in a 451, he will be virtually neutered. He just does not perform when leading the line. Ricky is very good at what he does, but he chooses very carefully where and when he takes it to the opposition. Everything about Lambert seems to suggest him as a perfect example of your classic centre forward, but his performances in that position have not been great. What he excels at is finding the space and the right opponent to take on, leading the line he cannot do that. As much as I agree with the 451, I just cannot see that working with Lambert. The closest we have to this is when Guly plays up front in support, but Ricky is reluctant to take the lead position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 The problem with playing SDR isn't primarily him, but Richardson, who, not incorrectly fancies himself as the crosser of the ball. He can't be the primary crosser with SDR in front of him. I have the same thought about the other flank. When Harding and Lallana played regularly together AL stood out as a star. I haven't seen that when he plays with Fox, who like FR fancies himself as the primary crosser. I agree with the thoughts about Lambert. He isn't a natural no 9 which is a bit of a problem playing with either Guly (an absolutely natural no 10 to distribute and feed the ammunition from the "hole" and arrive late into the box) or Connolly (who is far too small to lead the line). I'm not really considering Barnard who isn't a natural leader of the line either, apart from not being the same class as the other three. Schneiderlin on the right is a lost cause, as is any offensive position for him. It just isn't his natural game. So, why not play SDR with Butterfield? That looks a likely combination, as does Harding and Lallana. As for the striking positions we all know that we are looking for another striker. But out of the ones who have been mentioned, who will do the job with Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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