sidthesquid Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 So is Fonte a mercenary for going to a team a league below for more money? Not exactly, because Palace were heading for admin & were desperate to sell players. I don't think he pushed for a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 There is a huge difference between a professional in any job pursuing his career and ambitions and a mercenary looking for nothing more than a payday. If Rickie had gone to a decent Prem team that would be the former, if he'd gone to Leicester in the summer for the money, I think that would be mercenary. As for primadonnas, Cristiano Ronaldo was not a disruptive influence as far as I was aware, nor Balotelli (just a nutcase). Puncheon clearly is/was. It's about personality, not ability. The ideal player has both. Show me a PL team comprised of nothing but inexpensive average ability pros who do their best and never cause any trouble, and I show you a team that, sooner or later, is heading for relegation. It's not just in sport but in any walk of life, be it artistic endeavor, acting, journalism ... etc those special talents humanity throws up every now and then tend (more often than not) to 'have something about them' as they say. I'm more than happy for the honest hard working Dan Harding & Dean Hammond type players of this world to stay with us next season, but all those seasons when MLT's special talent kept us up (virtually single handed it seemed at times) taught me that we'll probably need a one (or even better two) truly special players in the squad as well. If we're lucky enough to unearth one of those 'special ones' and he turns out to be a arrogant SOB who rubs the opposition and his own teammates up the wrong way but does things on a football pitch that make a real difference to games, then his teammates, his manager, & even the chairman will just have to learn how to cope with him. All just a fans opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Show me a PL team comprised of nothing but inexpensive average ability pros who do their best and never cause any trouble, and I show you a team that, sooner or later, is heading for relegation. It's not just in sport but in any walk of life, be it artistic endeavor, acting, journalism ... etc those special talents humanity throws up every now and then tend (more often than not) to 'have something about them' as they say. I'm more than happy for the honest hard working Dan Harding & Dean Hammond type players of this world to stay with us next season, but all those seasons when MLT's special talent kept us up (virtually single handed it seemed at times) taught me that we'll probably need a one (or even better two) truly special players in the squad as well. If we're lucky enough to unearth one of those 'special ones' and he turns out to be a arrogant SOB who rubs the opposition and his own teammates up the wrong way but does things on a football pitch that make a real difference to games, then his teammates, his manager, & even the chairman will just have to learn how to cope with him. All just a fans opinion of course. And one I agree with with, well said.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Are you seriously putting Adam Lallana in the same bracket at Carlos Tevez, Balotelli and Ronaldo?!!! Adam Lallana can play in the same team as them players IMO, Lallana is a better player then downing who is at Liverpool playing with some top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Adam Lallana can play in the same team as them players IMO, Lallana is a better player then downing who is at Liverpool playing with some top players. You're joking aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 You're joking aren't you? No Lallana is better then or going to be better then Downing and i think could walk into any team outside the top 6 and look decent week in week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 ....So when do we bite the bullet and decide that we have to pay a bit more, the players wont be nice blokes overjoyed to be here and that the might actually be a bit of a c*nt but they are great players who will push us on a level?? Well Turkish, we can hope that none of the people we sign will come into.... that "category"... we've had enough dumb pric*s on the books in the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I can live with a few arrogant dicks if they're prepared to knuckle down with everyone else. We don't want more Puncheons though who go off in a strop if their place gets taken by someone who deserves it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 December, 2011 Share Posted 25 December, 2011 No Lallana is better then or going to be better then Downing and i think could walk into any team outside the top 6 and look decent week in week out. Ott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 25 December, 2011 Share Posted 25 December, 2011 As far as I am aware Norwich City haven't survived the Premiership yet (just like we haven't been promoted). Give them a rubbish holiday programme and a few poor results afterwards and will Lambert and the 'Norwich model' look so great then? See I can do that too... There isn't one person on this forum who can predict the future accurately. Otherwise everyone in the world would have heard of them and they would have claimed the money off James Randi too. I do wish some people would actually revel and enjoy where we currently are as a football club for a short while.....it doesn't happen very often. Or failing that go and support Manchester United like all the other no-imagination idiots we all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 As we go further up the leagues there is going to be a point where players arent going to feel honoured to play for a massive club like Southampton like the likes of Hammond and Lambert said when they joined us in League one. Players wont be nice blokes who are pleased to be "on the bus" as some of you put it. A lot of you seem to slate players for having the wrong attitude and being a bit of a big time charlie who might upset the team spirit but the higher up the leagues we go the more arrogant the players are going to be and the less of an honour it is to play for a massive club like Southampton when they can chose other massive clubs as well. There will be more Carlos Tevez types, who are just after a big pay day. We've seen a few of you turn your nose up at decent players because they want too much money, bit of an attitude etc etc. Kris Boyd the most recent one. So when do we bite the bullet and decide that we have to pay a bit more, the players wont be nice blokes overjoyed to be here and that the might actually be a bit of a c*nt but they are great players who will push us on a level?? In light of the last few weeks looks like you might have been a lot closer to the truth than even you thought when you wrote this Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Ha, what a timely thread resurrection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 As we go further up the leagues there is going to be a point where players arent going to feel honoured to play for a massive club like Southampton like the likes of Hammond and Lambert said when they joined us in League one. Players wont be nice blokes who are pleased to be "on the bus" as some of you put it. A lot of you seem to slate players for having the wrong attitude and being a bit of a big time charlie who might upset the team spirit but the higher up the leagues we go the more arrogant the players are going to be and the less of an honour it is to play for a massive club like Southampton when they can chose other massive clubs as well. There will be more Carlos Tevez types, who are just after a big pay day. We've seen a few of you turn your nose up at decent players because they want too much money, bit of an attitude etc etc. Kris Boyd the most recent one. So when do we bite the bullet and decide that we have to pay a bit more, the players wont be nice blokes overjoyed to be here and that the might actually be a bit of a c*nt but they are great players who will push us on a level?? Oh lets do a QPR and be ripped offed by overpaid, unwanted and overpriced so called big names - Chicorito anyone - forget it for me buy up and coming younger players and promote from the academy......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Oh lets do a QPR and be ripped offed by overpaid, unwanted and overpriced so called big names - Chicorito anyone - forget it for me buy up and coming younger players and promote from the academy......... Yes, because its one or the other, either we pay Kieran Dyer types £100k a week or we promote academy players. Everyone seemed happy the Osvaldo signing when it was going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 So do we have an arsehole list for the saints 2nd PL stint... Osvaldo Lovern anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 April, 2018 Share Posted 24 April, 2018 As we go further up the leagues there is going to be a point where players arent going to feel honoured to play for a massive club like Southampton like the likes of Hammond and Lambert said when they joined us in League one. Players wont be nice blokes who are pleased to be "on the bus" as some of you put it. A lot of you seem to slate players for having the wrong attitude and being a bit of a big time charlie who might upset the team spirit but the higher up the leagues we go the more arrogant the players are going to be and the less of an honour it is to play for a massive club like Southampton when they can chose other massive clubs as well. There will be more Carlos Tevez types, who are just after a big pay day. We've seen a few of you turn your nose up at decent players because they want too much money, bit of an attitude etc etc. Kris Boyd the most recent one. So when do we bite the bullet and decide that we have to pay a bit more, the players wont be nice blokes overjoyed to be here and that the might actually be a bit of a c*nt but they are great players who will push us on a level?? In light of current predicament this thread seems appropriate to resurrect... pretty close Turks apart from the bit in bold turns out we will pay a bit more, they will take us to a new level but mostly they will just be ****s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 24 April, 2018 Share Posted 24 April, 2018 Difference is, this summer we will be selling said arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 April, 2018 Share Posted 24 April, 2018 Difference is, this summer we will be selling said arseholes. And maybe signing a new bunch of budding arseholes ready to put themselves in the shop window.......and on we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2018 Author Share Posted 24 April, 2018 Oh lets do a QPR and be ripped offed by overpaid, unwanted and overpriced so called big names - Chicorito anyone - forget it for me buy up and coming younger players and promote from the academy......... Looks like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 April, 2018 Share Posted 25 April, 2018 And maybe signing a new bunch of budding arseholes ready to put themselves in the shop window.......and on we go. We are probably at the point where we could do with a few budding arseholes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 25 April, 2018 Share Posted 25 April, 2018 We are probably at the point where we could do with a few budding arseholes... Urgh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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