Minty Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 A few threads about censorship and offence being caused recently, but this one is ridiculous IMO. The following song, written especially for the show and taking the TV audience into account, has been cut from the final edit of tomorrow nights show. It's not even that edgy. If someone made the same comparisons and jokes in a stand up routine, no one would care. Very stupid IMO. Here's Tim's blog about it: http://www.timminchin.com/2011/12/22/im-not-on-the-jonathan-ross-show/ Anyone find it offensive?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Mad world!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Is it possible that the primary reason for it being pulled because Tim minchin, and that song in particular, is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Is it possible that the primary reason for it being pulled because Tim minchin, and that song in particular, is crap. No this is not the reason..... very clever man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Almost as clever as me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 The song isn't amazingly funny. But I hate when people get het up over offence. Nothing happens. The Daily Mail and co are the worst for getting stuff effectively banned out of fear of the storm if it is broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 The song isn't amazingly funny. But I hate when people get het up over offence. Nothing happens. The Daily Mail and co are the worst for getting stuff effectively banned out of fear of the storm if it is broadcast. No funny as he had to keep it light for TV.... oh and that did not work either! Some of his stuff is brilliant, and clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 No funny as he had to keep it light for TV.... oh and that did not work either! Some of his stuff is brilliant, and clever. Yer, I've heard he's funny. But never really watched any of him before, so was a bit disappointed by that. But I'll take your word for it, and maybe youtube a bit of him later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Its fine to be satirical if you are funny. It wasnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 Jonathan Ross involved again. Brilliant self publicist. Has Minchin got a new DVD out ? Quelle surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 Personally Id've left Tim and got rid of Ross. Grade A knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 I found it neither funny nor offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 I love the way the BBC can show eastenders with story lines about rape, wife beating, sex and drug abuse etc etc at 7.30 in the evening (before the watershed) all tastefully dressed up as bring issues to the public attention ("have you been affected by tonights episode? call this number...") Yet something like this after the watershed is cut.... I heard the other day 400+ people complained about the phones4u advert (shown after the watershed) becuase it was scary ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 If you open your mind too much your brain will fall out ( take my wife) is rather good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 On a separate note, one of the girls from downton abbey is on it Laura Carmichael. She is from Southampton and a friend of mine. Went to Bristol old vic and has done really well for herself. So it's not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 In respect of it being crap, he does admit himself that it's not the best thing he's ever written: It’s not a particularly original idea, I admit, but it’s quite cute. It’s certainly not very contentious, but even so, compliance people and producers and lawyers all checked my lyrics long before the cameras rolled. As always with these bespoke writing jobs, I was really stressed for about 3 days, and almost chucked it in the bin 5 times, and freaked out that it wasn’t funny and all that boring **** that people like me go through when we’re lucky enough to have with a big audience with high expectations. And if I’m honest, it ain’t a world-changing bit of comedy. Regardless… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 Hope this sort of thing doesn't go on forever. So what if it is offensive? Imagine TV where nothing is offensive to anyone. Fcking dreadful....like most tv out there actually. If you get through life without offending, you've clearly been a vacant dullard. I'm offended by half the christian stuff on TV, doesn't mean it should be cut. Broadcast whatever the hell you like. I'd like to see broadcasters given more freedom and trying to produce output they actually like and feel proud of, not inoffensive garbage to drag in the most advertising. Fairly crazy in this day and age that the guy singing songs about rationalism and NOT believing in the paranormal is cut, but the people singing about a mythical overlord sending his son to earth to die horribly are just fine. Bibles in schools, fine. Send them more, promote all the racism, sexism, homophobia and vengeance you like, just DON'T SING AN ATHEIST SONG! Marcus Brigstock made a good point about this sort of thing, saying it's about time we all wrote letters of complaint to TV networks to express our disappointment by being utterly unaffected and unmoved by bland, inoffensive, safe, tedious programming. That's fine, if you also have no objection to racism, sexism, homophobia or any other offensive speech. I find that most people who say offensive material should be broadcast, make their own exceptions to that rule. They should not be surprised if other peole make other exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 What a crap song deserves to be edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 23 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2011 The perceived quality of the song and how funny it is or isn't, wasn't the point, but never mind. I thought it was quite amusing, nothing more, but then we all have different comedy tastes. I just can't believe ITV think it needed to be edited out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 The perceived quality of the song and how funny it is or isn't, wasn't the point, but never mind. I thought it was quite amusing, nothing more, but then we all have different comedy tastes. I just can't believe ITV think it needed to be edited out. Thats it back on topic. You are quite correct, it is all down to taste, and people would have tuned in if he was on it, and others not botherd for the same reason. I do think he is very clever. On topic, it should not have been edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 I don't see why people would have complained. Then again, I never get complaining at TV programmes, but people still do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 The perceived quality of the song and how funny it is or isn't, wasn't the point, but never mind. I thought it was quite amusing, nothing more, but then we all have different comedy tastes. I just can't believe ITV think it needed to be edited out. Its exactly the point. It may well have been edited out solely because Ross is supposed to be presenting an entertaining show and that song wasnt. 'Cleverly' pointing out that there may have been some hyperbole around Jesus Christ's life is not new. Its been done a million times since Life of Brian. To be worth a slot of a national broadcast you need to be able to take the same old subject and inject some life and humour into it, ideally without pointlessly offending millions who do believe. Michin failed on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 What I find funny is that certain elements of the press are so used to complaining about the BBC that they do this.... Daily Telegraph News @TelegraphNews VIDEO: Watch the Tim Minchin song that the BBC cut from Jonathan Ross Christmas Special… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 What I find funny is that certain elements of the press are so used to complaining about the BBC that they do this.... Daily Telegraph News @TelegraphNews VIDEO: Watch the Tim Minchin song that the BBC cut from Jonathan Ross Christmas Special… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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