Turkish Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Am I alone in admitting that I don't see nearly enough of Maynard, Sharp etc to make an informed opinion? It's hard enough making your mind up about some existing Saints players who you see at least occasionally but I find it almost impossible with players I've seen for a few short minutes of on the FL show and with little or no knowledge of the team they play in and how they play. Love to contribute but I'd be bull****ting. It's like every new signing we are linked with, a handful of people will say he is either brillant or sh*t and everyone else will jump on the bandwagon as a must sign having hardly if at all seen him play. We've had all this for years. I recall us linked with Marcus Allback and Javi De Pedro, people on here banging on for months about we should sign them, despite never having heard of either of them or seen them play, just a couple of people said they were decent or good on championship manager. I've seen Maynard play once and wasn't overly impressed but not enough to give an informed view that he is the answer to all our prayers. I've seen Sharp a handful of times this season though and he looks a good bet for a signing. Think he'd score a hatful for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Why are people talking about £6m for Maynard? With him only having 6 months left on his contract it's a buyer's market. What chairman would sanction £6m for a player you can have for free in 6 months? If he goes anywhere I would imagine it would be to the premier league, for around £2m max. I could see Newcastle, Wigan, QPR all being interested, maybe even Everton if they could shift someone out to pay for him. All of these clubs are a bigger draw than us at the moment (Wigan as it would get him media exposure for a bigger move if the went down), so I don't think we'll see him here. I think Adkins clearly likes Sharp, so if he can be persuaded to come here, I think he would be the one we may sign. Then again, we do quite well at keeping our transfer stuff under wraps these days, so we'll likely bring in someone nobody has mentioned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Not convinced about Maynard - Adomah yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Maynard may well choose not to sign for anybody in January, he can make a killing on a free transfer in 6 months time. Sharp hasn't played a lot of games this season although he is scoring goals, we would have to be sure apart from new injuries that he can stay out of the treatment room. Jutkawiecz may be a more robust option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Jutkiewicz isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Jutkiewicz isn't good enough. Good enough to score 8 league goals for the worst team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Jutkiewicz isn't good enough. More of a gamble yes, but if the wheel turns in our favour then we win. Maynard is the safer bet f we want to get up to the premiership this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Why are people talking about £6m for Maynard? With him only having 6 months left on his contract it's a buyer's market. What chairman would sanction £6m for a player you can have for free in 6 months? If he goes anywhere I would imagine it would be to the premier league, for around £2m max. I could see Newcastle, Wigan, QPR all being interested, maybe even Everton if they could shift someone out to pay for him. All of these clubs are a bigger draw than us at the moment (Wigan as it would get him media exposure for a bigger move if the went down), so I don't think we'll see him here. I think Adkins clearly likes Sharp, so if he can be persuaded to come here, I think he would be the one we may sign. Then again, we do quite well at keeping our transfer stuff under wraps these days, so we'll likely bring in someone nobody has mentioned! This. they'll be plenty of struggling Prem Clubs in ahead of us. And West Ham, Leics. He'll want wages we cant offer. Adomah too will be off to the Prem, think Fulham were interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Knowing our club we could easily end up with 2 or 3 players arriving that we hadn't even considered. I won't be surprised to see us going outside the UK for new blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Am I alone in admitting that I don't see nearly enough of Maynard, Sharp etc to make an informed opinion? It's hard enough making your mind up about some existing Saints players who you see at least occasionally but I find it almost impossible with players I've seen for a few short minutes of on the FL show and with little or no knowledge of the team they play in and how they play. Love to contribute but I'd be bull****ting. You make a fair point here, Sharp has scored 1 goal more than Guly, Maynard has scored less and yet Guly is roundly criticised ! Must be a case of 'the grass is always greener' !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 You make a fair point here, Sharp has scored 1 goal more than Guly, Maynard has scored less and yet Guly is roundly criticised ! Must be a case of 'the grass is always greener' !! and guly has played more in a team that throw up chances every minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 and guly has played more in a team that throw up chances every minute Only stating a fact, if it doesn't suit your agenda, please feel free to ignore it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 3 million for Sharp would be a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Only stating a fact, if it doesn't suit your agenda, please feel free to ignore it !! its not an agenda...the others play for the worst clubs in the league....guly plays for a team that spends most of the time attacking.. how hard is that to understand..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Maynard to Fulham, Zamora on his way out, likely to Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Maynard would be an excellent signing but I would not pay anything over £2.5m MAX for a player out of contract in the summer. Go in with a reasonable bid but the first sign of Leicester bidding stupid money leave them to it and go for Sharp instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 its not an agenda...the others play for the worst clubs in the league....guly plays for a team that spends most of the time attacking.. how hard is that to understand..? To be fair, we were beaten by both Bristol City and Donny so they can't be that bad ! I do understand that they may do a job for us but equally you should accept that Guly is an integral part of our squad !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Jutkiewicz isn't good enough. 1000% this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 3.5m for Maynard and Fontaine, 3.5m for sharp, bring a fully committed (born again) punch back and perhaps a right back. This would be lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 To be fair, we were beaten by both Bristol City and Donny so they can't be that bad ! I do understand that they may do a job for us but equally you should accept that Guly is an integral part of our squad !! why are you telling me to accept something I have...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 why are you telling me to accept something I have...??? I should have said 'one has to accept' rather than 'you' have to accept', although you did seem to imply that my comparison of Sharp, Maynard and Guly was not valid !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 I should have said 'one has to accept' rather than 'you' have to accept', although you did seem to imply that my comparison of Sharp, Maynard and Guly was not valid !!! either one in addition to guly, lambert, lallana and the odd goal from connolly would be very good for saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 If they turned down 6m for him from Leicester in the summer, surely they'll expect that cash for him now. Will we cough up that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 If they turned down 6m for him from Leicester in the summer, surely they'll expect that cash for him now. That makes little sense. The reason they are happy to listen to offers now is because he isn't going to sign a new contract and he is free to leave in the summer. The January window is all they have to recoup some money. The buying club has the advantage as the clock ticks to deadline day and Maynard's value is declining by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Am I alone in admitting that I don't see nearly enough of Maynard, Sharp etc to make an informed opinion? It's hard enough making your mind up about some existing Saints players who you see at least occasionally but I find it almost impossible with players I've seen for a few short minutes of on the FL show and with little or no knowledge of the team they play in and how they play. Love to contribute but I'd be bull****ting. You're far from alone. You are allowed to have gut feelings on this forum, but forum rules from the happy clappers tell us that you are only allowed to have gut feelings if they are wholeheartedly unreservedly positive - ie this guy is and will be a Saints legend, I worship and adore him, even though two days ago I'd never heard of him. Any gut feelings of trepidation, worry or being underwhelmed will get the betwetters flooding their hallways with gallons of pi ss. And they'll be dredging up your forum posts weeks later when said new signing has a half way decent game. Be warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 We simply do not need a RB, certainly not in January. It's weird that people think this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 We simply do not need a RB, certainly not in January. It's weird that people think this. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 Jutkiewicz isn't good enough. He's the most likely though. Maynard will want to sign for a Prem team and QPR will offer him more money than us. Sharp couldn't agree to come in the summer, so why will he suddenly agree in Jan? Jay-Rod doesn't seem keen on moving south. Rhodes will probably go to a Premiership team if anywhere. Jutkiewicz probably won't attract any bigger tams than Saints and Coventry might have already written off this season and be desperate for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 22 December, 2011 Share Posted 22 December, 2011 If they turned down 6m for him from Leicester in the summer, surely they'll expect that cash for him now. Will we cough up that?? I don't understand the logic with this. At the end of January he'll be worth nothing (assuming he doesn't sign a contract before the end of June). IMHO the bidding will be around the £2m - £3m region, depending on how many clubs are interested. Moreover, it is probably not going to be the highest bidder that he goes to. Player power (agent power) will dictate where he goes. If he wants to pay for one particular club, and that club knows he wants to play for just them, they only have to bid the bare minimum. £6m would be madness for a player effectively 1 month from the end of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 Give them £7-8m for Adomah, Fontaine and Maynard, wash our hands and leave the last minute deals to others. I like the sound of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 Knowing our club we could easily end up with 2 or 3 players arriving that we hadn't even considered. I won't be surprised to see us going outside the UK for new blood. Exactly, while we were all creaming ourselves over the thought of Michael Owen and John Arne Riise, NA went out and got Jos and SDR - not a dickie bird on here about them anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 A fact twisted to make the point though. Goal records really need further info, such as the team they play for, chances created, type of goals, assists, passing ability etc. Maynard hasn't done as well as he'd like, but he's clearly a very good player and he'd probably score a lot here, or other decent sides. Sharp has scored a lot considering the team he's in. Can't make it too black and white. It's exactly that logic that had some saying 12 goals isn't that awful for McGoldrick. But throw in playing all 46 games, being the main striker, the penalty taker and generally being a petulant, lazy fcker, and it's not so great. Actual goals scored = fact ! I'm not sure how I managed to 'twist' this by saying : " You make a fair point here, Sharp has scored 1 goal more than Guly, Maynard has scored less and yet Guly is roundly criticised ! Must be a case of 'the grass is always greener' !! The context of my post was the comparison of players we know and others that we seldom see, that's all !! For the record, I'd be more than happy if we sign either Sharp or Maynard to add to what we've got, the benefit would be a stronger squad ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 i just cant see the fascination with why many are saying we should sign Maynard, ive seen him play 4 times this season, he would not be a great signing for us, he is not popular with Bristol city fans, its not hard to see why, yes he can finish, but does not contribute a lot else, very much in the mould of rasiak & fuller, a big percentage of saints fans would not take to him, Rhodes or Sharp would be far better options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 What happened to Jay Rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAZZA 92 Posted 23 December, 2011 Share Posted 23 December, 2011 Sharp is good being the main man at a small club and don't think he could take a step up again where as Maynard or Sordell would be ideal as they want to enhance their careers and would love to score goals at a big club! Either could slot in next to Rickie and be a better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Sharp is good being the main man at a small club and don't think he could take a step up again where as Maynard or Sordell would be ideal as they want to enhance their careers and would love to score goals at a big club! Either could slot in next to Rickie and be a better option How do you know Billy Sharp doesn't want to enchance his career? Who wouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Can he play in goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Sharp is good being the main man at a small club and don't think he could take a step up again where as Maynard or Sordell would be ideal as they want to enhance their careers and would love to score goals at a big club! Either could slot in next to Rickie and be a better option Rickie Lambert was quite good at being the main man at a small club.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Cortese wants Maynard. Adkins is not so sure......mind you this is the man that brought in N'gusesan(sp),Forte,Bignall. and DeRidder...none of which has set the world alight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Cortese wants Maynard. Adkins is not so sure. How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 How do you know? cortese wanted Maynard in the summer and was willing to 'break the bank' for him. Adkins had other ideas,none of which came to fruition. I was convinced We would get him then,but..... alas it did not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 That still doesn't explain how you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I know someone on the payroll at Maynards club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I know someone on the payroll at Maynards club. And they sat down with NC and NA to discuss who our transfer targets were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 cortese wanted Maynard in the summer and was willing to 'break the bank' for him. Adkins had other ideas,none of which came to fruition. I was convinced We would get him then,but..... alas it did not happen. That s a very weighted statement. Please tell more ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 I know someone on the payroll at Maynards club. How would "someone on the payroll" at Bristol City know the thoughts of Cortese and Adkins regarding Maynard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 cortese wanted Maynard in the summer and was willing to 'break the bank' for him. Adkins had other ideas,none of which came to fruition. I was convinced We would get him then,but..... alas it did not happen. Doesn't sound like Cortese to me, Lardy. With a player near the end of his contract, it just doesn't seem Nicola-like to want to 'break the bank' for him. I believe we had interest, but didn't bid due to our respective valuations being no-where near each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timb289 Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Seems as though Sharp is settled in the north and the fact that he rejected a saints offer in the summer suggests he is not interested in a move down south. Maynard looks impressive but £4 million plus cant really be justified IMHO. It's evident that he is not interested in a move to Leicester but may have quite a bit of interest from PL clubs. Although with our current position and form a move to Southampton could be pretty tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 (edited) The fact that Sharp rejected a saints offer in the summer suggests he is not interested in a move down south. What makes you think that is a "fact"? Adkins gave a different reason for the deal not going ahead. Depends who you believe... Edited 24 December, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Seems as though Sharp is settled in the north and the fact that he rejected a saints offer in the summer suggests he is not interested in a move down south. Maynard looks impressive but £4 million plus cant really be justified IMHO. It's evident that he is not interested in a move to Leicester but may have quite a bit of interest from PL clubs. Although with our current position and form a move to Southampton could be pretty tempting. Just another guess like yours but i expect moving down south when his partner was pregnant was out of the question for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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