Saint in Paradise Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Got a red card though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmamIYFN1s8&feature=player_embedded#! In Holland.
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Saw that on a blog last night - the Alkmaar players then walked off the pitch. Think this will run a bit!
saintscottofthenortham Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Saw that on a blog last night - the Alkmaar players then walked off the pitch. Think this will run a bit! So they should have too. If they are unable to guarentee the safety of their players and then send a player off when he defends himself against an attacker (who lets face it, could have had a knife or anything) then i'm with with the AZ boss. Fair play to him.
sussexsaint Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Me too, can only think the ref didn't see the initial attack but the retaliation
Nexstar Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 At the end of the day the ref has done the right thing, it's against the laws of the game. But the AZ players also did the right thing, by leaving the pitch.
Wurzel Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Keepers first kick was self defence. The 2 or 3 while the fan was on the ground could have been considered unnecessary. But common sense would have been for ref "not to have seen the incident" and let any disciplinary take place after the game . Think if I was boss I'd have took team off too. Incidentally, keeper and ref in same kit - could be confusing in a crowded penalty area. Or maybe fan attacked the wrong man
CylonKing Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 Agree completely that the first kick could be seen as self defence, however once the fan is on the ground, the keeper then goes into him, which could be considered assault. I think the referee was in a sticky situation as if he let the keeper play on, it could've been worse as he may have been targettedeven more, yet to send him off also seems harsh (though the 2nd and 3rd kicks are really unnecessary). I think the coach did the right thing getting his team off of the pitch, probably the best thing to do in that situation.
saintscottofthenortham Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 Agree completely that the first kick could be seen as self defence, however once the fan is on the ground, the keeper then goes into him, which could be considered assault. I think the referee was in a sticky situation as if he let the keeper play on, it could've been worse as he may have been targettedeven more, yet to send him off also seems harsh (though the 2nd and 3rd kicks are really unnecessary). I think the coach did the right thing getting his team off of the pitch, probably the best thing to do in that situation. I totally fail to see how the following kicks are unnecessary. My process of thought if I were the keeper would be 'Attacked by opposition fan from behind, get him on the deck ASAP, ensure he don't get back up.' I'm with the keeper all the way here and just cannot believe he was sent off, although this is actually quite common that players defending themselves against pitch invaders are sent off. Wasn't there a player who rugby tackled a guy to the ground so the stewards could get a hold of him and he was sent off also? Or was that a dream?
sussexsaint Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 His red card has been overturned http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-world/2011/12/22/dutch-cup-game-abandoned-after-goalkeeper-attacks-pitch-invader-at-az-alkmaar-vs-ajax-115875-23654122/
Thedelldays Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 The attacker was actually banned from the ground for previous. And the keeper was nailing his ex
Minty Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 Wasn't there a player who rugby tackled a guy to the ground so the stewards could get a hold of him and he was sent off also? Or was that a dream? Nope, but that was also football, a fairly recent Dorchester Town game: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/9418641.stm
Dr Who? Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 The referee has to take action as he would any other play on the field. This is not the first time this has happended, so he was rightly red carded, but common sense shone through, and it was reversed. It is violent conduct. I think it happened in a lower league game, maybe the blue square or something.
1976_Child Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 They said the fan had been drinking. Really? Fek me.
Minty Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 I think it happened in a lower league game, maybe the blue square or something. Ahem... Nope, but that was also football, a fairly recent Dorchester Town game: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/9418641.stm
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