alpine_saint Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 You might think he is a buffoon with a silver spoon in his mouth, but he gets things done. Just what the UK needs at the moment. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2075669/London-Mayor-Boris-Johnson-triumphs-MPs-tried-block-Olympic-proposals.html
bridge too far Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 It's not just a silver spoon in his mouth though. It's often his foot. I think he's very funny and quite endearing. He's also very, very clever and looks down on Dave in the intellectual stakes.
pap Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 I think Boris is the Tory that non-Tories could get behind. No idea whether he could run a country or not, but that hasn't stopped the current incumbent.
swannymere Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 He's also very, very clever and looks down on Dave in the intellectual stakes. The mould growing in the corner of my shed looks down on dave in the intellectual stakes.
bridge too far Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 (edited) the mould growing in the corner of my shed looks down on dave in the intellectual stakes. (Bloody edit function ) Edited 18 December, 2011 by bridge too far
alpine_saint Posted 18 December, 2011 Author Posted 18 December, 2011 Deffo could do the job, but got too many enemies, probably. The political equivalent of Brian Clough and the England job.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 If only he could keep his d1ck in his pants.
Verbal Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Would this be the same Boris Johnson who had to be lectured by his own staff to bother turning up as Mayor occasionally and getting involved in decisions rather than mooning about wasted chances to make it big on the national stage? As Londoners know too well, he's a voluble waste of space whose only good idea (actually not his) is the Boris bike.
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Would this be the same Boris Johnson who had to be lectured by his own staff to bother turning up as Mayor occasionally and getting involved in decisions rather than mooning about wasted chances to make it big on the national stage? As Londoners know too well, he's a voluble waste of space whose only good idea (actually not his) is the Boris bike. You would say that. I would love boris for pm. He is the sort of bloke that has universal appeal.
Verbal Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 You would say that. I would love boris for pm. He is the sort of bloke that has universal appeal. He's the 'sort of bloke' who appeals to the ludicrously over-represented forelock-tugging wannabe Tory grandees on this site, but 'universal appeal' is laughable.
CB Saint Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 He's the 'sort of bloke' who appeals to the ludicrously over-represented forelock-tugging wannabe Tory grandees on this site, but 'universal appeal' is laughable. So who do you think would make a good pm, and also a good Tory pm?
Saintandy666 Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 He's very charming and funny(makes a great speech!), but it's all an act. He's extremely clever and has a lust for power. I wouldn't trust him and his buffoon front hides extremely right wing politic.
Verbal Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 So who do you think would make a good pm, and also a good Tory pm? "A good Tory PM' ought to be the standard dictionary definition of an oxymoron...or some part of that term.
CB Saint Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 "A good Tory PM' ought to be the standard dictionary definition of an oxymoron...or some part of that term. Fair point, however, if pushed who would you choose?
Saintandy666 Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Ken Clarke would be good as Tory leader.
Turkish Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Ken Clarke would be good as Tory leader. Did you enjoy the game today Andy?
Saintandy666 Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Did you enjoy the game today Andy? I work on Sundays so couldn't go or watch it.
Verbal Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Fair point, however, if pushed who would you choose? Aidan Burley. He'd be a good choice.
Turkish Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Aidan Burley. He'd be a good choice. What about you Verbal, did you enjoy the game?
scotty Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 ^ less of the sarc turks, some of us work for a living. I havent had a full day off in the last five weeks. I even had to drag down to the skate ferryport yesterday ffs, then soton gate 10 today. Barely managed to hear the last ten minutes of the game on solent on the way home, then as soon as I walked through the door the wife started bleating about putting the f*cking christmas lights up. ffs.
CB Saint Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Aidan Burley. He'd be a good choice. Didn't think I would get a sensible answer from you.
dune Posted 18 December, 2011 Posted 18 December, 2011 Ken Clarke would be good as Tory leader. You do come out with some rubbish.
Verbal Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 Didn't think I would get a sensible answer from you. I do apologise. I would like to see Mark Reckless leading the Party. Apart from having a stupid name, he has a real talent to lead the Party where it deserves to go.
dubai_phil Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8964824/EU-crisis-The-Frogs-do-love-us-theyre-just-hopping-mad-with-Germany.html
trousers Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 Anyone that annoys non-right wingers is fine by me. The more annoyed the better... ;-) Win win
CB Saint Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 I do apologise. I would like to see Mark Reckless leading the Party. Apart from having a stupid name, he has a real talent to lead the Party where it deserves to go. Wasn't that the chap who got hammered and missed an important vote in the commons, or something like that. I still suspect you are not being entirely serious!!
pap Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8964824/EU-crisis-The-Frogs-do-love-us-theyre-just-hopping-mad-with-Germany.html Thanks for posting that dubai_phil. Amusing stuff from Boris as always, and more on the money than many other analyses of Anglo-French relations. I wonder if anyone has said "Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time!"
dune Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 Anyone that annoys non-right wingers is fine by me. The more annoyed the better... ;-) Win win Thanks.
Turkish Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 ^ less of the sarc turks, some of us work for a living. I havent had a full day off in the last five weeks. I even had to drag down to the skate ferryport yesterday ffs, then soton gate 10 today. Barely managed to hear the last ten minutes of the game on solent on the way home, then as soon as I walked through the door the wife started bleating about putting the f*cking christmas lights up. ffs. BUt you do post about football on a football forum from time to time. Strange that neither of those did, yet are on a football forum talking about politics after arguably our biggest game of the season. Hope the christmas lights look good.
um pahars Posted 19 December, 2011 Posted 19 December, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8964824/EU-crisis-The-Frogs-do-love-us-theyre-just-hopping-mad-with-Germany.html A very funny, eloquent and insightful piece from Boris there, so thank you DP. Sometimes Boris is spot on with the things he says, but at other times it's as though he is from another planet (and to be honest given his background and upbringing he is from another planet to the majority of us in this country e.g. his £250,000 chicken feed for Sunday morning diary writing!!!). A good commentator, fine for the odd funny quote (not so good for his many foot in mouth moments), extremely intelligent, but not at all convinced he should be in charge of the London and definitely not up for leading the country!!!!
pap Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 Boris for PM stories all over the media at the moment:- Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/03/long-shot-boris-johnson-going-gold Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9449612/Is-Boris-Johnson-serious-When-it-comes-to-No-10-the-answer-is-deadly-so.html Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andrew-grice/andrew-grice-does-boris-want-to-be-the-pm-yes-and-his-team-is-already-trying-to-make-it-happen-8005960.html The FT is also running something, but it's behind a paywall. I think we can interpret this sudden rash of Boris for PM stories as a sign that Johnson's people are actually going for it.
pap Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I dunno Hypo, there's a comment on the Guardian piece listing all the dictators who started out as funny chaps. Long list, which does give me a little bit of pause. Apparently a lot less jolly when he does his mayoral question time too. There are large suspicions that the fella might be a wolf in the attire of a buffoon.
Thedelldays Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I dunno Hypo, there's a comment on the Guardian piece listing all the dictators who started out as funny chaps. Long list, which does give me a little bit of pause. Apparently a lot less jolly when he does his mayoral question time too. There are large suspicions that the fella might be a wolf in the attire of a buffoon. jesus christ
pap Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 jesus christ He wasn't one of them:- Benito Mussolini; Idi Amin; "Papa Doc" Duvalier; Kim Jong-Il; Saddam Hussein Muammar Qaddafi; Robert Mugabe;
latter day saint Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I dunno Hypo, there's a comment on the Guardian piece listing all the dictators who started out as funny chaps. Long list, which does give me a little bit of pause. Apparently a lot less jolly when he does his mayoral question time too. There are large suspicions that the fella might be a wolf in the attire of a buffoon. seriously ? the man does play the buffoon role to his advantage but i don't think we have to worry about him getting power hungry on us
hypochondriac Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 IMO Boris possesses all the traits I believe would be perfect for PM. He would stand up for Britain in Europe and not be afraid to show patriotism and pride in our country. He has appeal beyond the normally stuffy politicians so would appeal to a younger generation who are all turned off politics. Additionally he is incredibly smart and I reckon would be well liked abroad as well. He reminds me of some of those great eccentric Englishmen you hear about from the past who weren't mocked but celebrated. If he were to run then I would definitely campaign for him.
pap Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 Suppose it depends on whether you take people at face value or not. Before the election, Cameron tried to portray himself as a compassionate tree-hugging cyclist. Post election reality a bit different, isn't it?
Saintandy666 Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I would never ever vote for Boris Johnson however funny he is. He'd probably get elected.
hypochondriac Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 Suppose it depends on whether you take people at face value or not. Before the election, Cameron tried to portray himself as a compassionate tree-hugging cyclist. Post election reality a bit different, isn't it? I've always known what Boris is about. Politics is politics and you do have to have many faces to get ahead. As I said though, unlike other politicians Boris isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes in. Like his stance on Europe, no other mainstream politician would dare to take a similar stance but he does and he has my admiration for that.
hypochondriac Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I would never ever vote for Boris Johnson however funny he is. He'd probably get elected. Of course you wouldn't. Please don't patronise by suggesting that people would only vote for Boris because he is funny.
Saintandy666 Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I've always known what Boris is about. Politics is politics and you do have to have many faces to get ahead. As I said though, unlike other politicians Boris isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes in. Like his stance on Europe, no other mainstream politician would dare to take a similar stance but he does and he has my admiration for that. He can take that stance now whilst he is Mayor of London. Just like Cameron could do a lot of talking prior to being PM.
dune Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 Suppose it depends on whether you take people at face value or not. Before the election, Cameron tried to portray himself as a compassionate tree-hugging cyclist. Post election reality a bit different, isn't it? He was right about Scousers.
Saintandy666 Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 Of course you wouldn't. Please don't patronise by suggesting that people would only vote for Boris because he is funny. I'm not being patronising at all. Personality is a huge part in politics these days. You have to be likeable. Just look at how harshly Gordon Brown was treated.
Thedelldays Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I'm not being patronising at all. Personality is a huge part in politics these days. You have to be likeable. Just look at how harshly Gordon Brown was treated. brown was treated harshly because he was a major factor in hundreds of thousands dead in the middle east, the very poor state the UK was in with no money in reserve and the facts he made goof after goof on personal levels to voters
hypochondriac Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 I'm not being patronising at all. Personality is a huge part in politics these days. You have to be likeable. Just look at how harshly Gordon Brown was treated. Of course it is, but to suggest that Boris would get elected purely because he is funny is doing him and the British public a disservice.
hypochondriac Posted 4 August, 2012 Posted 4 August, 2012 He can take that stance now whilst he is Mayor of London. Just like Cameron could do a lot of talking prior to being PM. My strong suspicion is that whilst Boris may have to reel some of it in, he would stick to his views a hell of a lot more than any of the others.
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