farawaysaint Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 According to the daily mail, their chief scout was watching him when the u18s thumped Sheffield United 7-0 (indirect link through tribal football who cite the mail sorry.) http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/arsenal-chief-scout-rowley-made-check-southampton-kid-luke-shaw-2558061?utm_source=feed_newsnow# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 If they want to play poker with Nicola again they're welcome to try. Anything else is 'tapping up.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 Why would you have expected them to stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 Why would you have expected them to stop? Quite they know where to come to pick up all the best young talent ....... just pop down the south coast and hoover up Southamptons best talent....easier than doing it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 If they want to play poker with Nicola again they're welcome to try. Anything else is 'tapping up.' I thought as he's under 17 he could move any time he wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 I thought as he's under 17 he could move any time he wanted? Luke Shaw committed to a 3 year professional contract with Saints along with James Ward Prowse, Jake Sinclair, Jordan Turnbull, Calum Chambers and Harrison Reed in December 2010... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2228492,00.html If Arsenal really want him soon they will have to spend big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 Initially when reading this I was getting myself all het up, but realistically if Arsenal want to keep throwing 6 and 7-figure sums our way then so be it. If we can keep the talent coming it becomes a fantastically sustainable way of balancing the books and let's face it, we won't be able to hold onto the top, top talent unless we ever become a 'big' club. It's sad that perceived loyalty doesn't come into it any more, but the days of the 'one club man' are surely numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 I'm from the old school who thinks that if we are still a selling club than we have no ambition whatsoever to be anything other than an als ran fringe club. I hope Mr Cortese takes a different and more constructive view, that we can do anything that Spurs can do twice over without breaking than bank and having a debt burden greater than Greece. He has said time and toime again taht we MUST develop our own talent and that means KEEP it so that we an become like ManUre did in the mid-90's with a greta bunch of young native born talent. Tell Arsenal to F*** O** Nicola... WE are Southampton, we will kick your Rrse soon Arsene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 Not this old chestnut. We ARE a selling club. Always have been always will be. It's not a disgrace to be one all the time we are still moving forward. It's called supply and demand. We will also try and persuade talent from other clubs to join us too. It's been how football has been since it turned professional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhere In Northam Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 tyr and keep our youngsters or try and get big £ for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 If we can sell Arsenal a little starlet every couple of years for 12m then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 Selling club? Maybe, but we are also a buying club - just loko at the squad. Its the way things work. Buy well, sell well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 Quite they know where to come to pick up all the best young talent ....... just pop down the south coast and hoover up Southamptons best talent....easier than doing it themselves. Have they no self respect?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 I note the Fail couldn't even get the name right in the text of the story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1980 Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 I note the Fail couldn't even get the name right in the text of the story! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2074728/Arsenal-want-Lukas-Podolski.html It was actually the other website that got the name wrong, but don't let that stop you slagging off the Mail like everyone else on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2074728/Arsenal-want-Lukas-Podolski.html It was actually the other website that got the name wrong, but don't let that stop you slagging off the Mail like everyone else on here. Are you suggesting the Mail doesn't deserve criticism? In any case that story states this... Arsenal have also taken significant steps towards landing Southampton wonderkid Luke Shaw. Chief scout Steve Rowley ran the rule over the 16-year-old in the Saints’ Under 18s 7-0 win over Sheffield United in the FA Youth Cup on Tuesday. There is quite a leap between sending a scout to watch a match and "significant steps towards landing" him in a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2074728/Arsenal-want-Lukas-Podolski.html It was actually the other website that got the name wrong, but don't let that stop you slagging off the Mail like everyone else on here. I'll stop when they stop deserving it....I wouldn't wipe my a*se on it after some of the stories they've concocted about us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 The Mail is possibly the worst newspaper in the world. The Sunday Sport focusses on less tits than they do. Utter garbage #toryscum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 16 December, 2011 Share Posted 16 December, 2011 You keep hold of players for one of 3 reasons IMHO: 1. Opportunity to play week in week out 2. Success - opportunity to win things 3. Pay - ability to satisfy wage demands (especially after those fecking leaches called agents start their hideous whisperings) We can offer 1. To young players good enough far more than the 'bigger clubs'. We are progressing so there may come a time where we could challenge for the odd trophy - who knows -so 2...possible. 3 well I for one don’t want our club falling into the wage cycle trap and do we really want the type of player here that is not happy with 30K a week (in the prem) because he knows he can get 60 or 90 at Arse or Citeh? The problem we will face soon and one I am sure Cortese has considered is that unlike leagues in Germany or many of the other countries, The prem has around 4-6 teams already constantly looking for a CL place - Germany you have Bayern, but the rest sort of churn and churn for a very good reason.. young players tend to stay until 21/22 or their contract ends (see Goetze telling the gunners to feck off etc) so it allows clubs like Leverkusen and Dortmund, Werder Bremen, Schalke, etc to have a cyclic good season as they get a younger crop... The prem for all its ****** about being the best, is so skewed in favour of the same old guard financially, and we sadly have a youth culture that is 'I want it NOW' so that when the agents and 'bigger clubs' come calling - there is little anyone can do unless you can offer them CL football, silver wear and £50k a week at 19... This is for me why the Prem stinks - the academy thing is only designed to ensure they can pick up these youngsters cheaper - then sell those that don’t make it back to the smaller clubs who had to release them for a pittance in the first place... The fairest thing to do would be to ensure that clubs can ONLY approach a club, player or agent IF the club who owns a youngster WISHES/NEEDS to sell them (as many lower league clubs do) and they have been placed on an FA register - eg clubs and agents can only look at those players - This should be in place for all players under 21 globally - means clubs can sell if they need to, but protects those that don’t want to... simple.... but FIFA, UEFA, FAs etc all bend over to the big clubs and leagues for fear of losing what little control over the game they still have.... The worst part is that the Prem League themselves are so in favour of the status quo (being driven by the big few IMHO) that they fail to realize the value in ensuring a more competitive league could be achieved through such rulings ensuring clubs that invest in youth benefit by having at least a couple of seasons where their best youth can make a real impact... sadly the big clubs don’t want this as it would mean your Bales, Walcotts and Oxos would cost them 20-30mil rather than 5-10mil at most, probably a lot less in future with the new academy classification system. The system stinks; the prem league stinks and the governing bodies have no guts or power to do anything about it... If the fans of those 'bigger' clubs want to know the reason why so many real fans hate their clubs, IMHO it’s this simple issue that having been able to establish themselves a financial advantage on the back of the biggest slice of SKY revenues from armchair fans, they now don’t want to change that or make the league more competitive ... believing in their arrogance that its some sort of right that this is how it should be. The old chestnut about there will never be another Forest type club is only true because the prem league is set up that way - and no one wants to change it - Whereas Beyer Leverkusen could have won the CL but for a wonderful strike from Zidane a few years ago, with basically a crop of their own young players - sure Ballack and the like all fecked off after that season, but at least they had a chance and the revenues enabled them to build again for the next cycle... Scudamore has so little self awareness when he pontificates about the 'best league in the world' - he probably believes his own hype now - best in terms of marketability and revenue generation yes... best in terms of competitiveness and opportunity NO, best in terms of quality of football NO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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