shurlock Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 (edited) NA started Morgan again on the right. Wonder what people thought of his performance? Its always going to be a case of square pegs and round holes with Morgan, Cork and Hammond in the side; but thought he did well - indeed, he was involved in most of our good attacking play in the 1st half, played neat triangles with the forward players/Richardson and we arguably looked blunter when he went to the base of the diamond in the 2nd half. Its good to see Morgan being coaxed out of his shell and, hopefully, when he reverts back to CM he doesn't forget that he doesn't need security clearance or travel documents to break forward. It also seems that Morgan is fast becoming NA's first choice midfielder. Interesting that whenever NA needs one of our players to do a job -i.e. to mark Koren or snuff out a dangerous Blackpool midfield, Morgan is entrusted. Hammond has been off the pace recently; and though Cork looked better today, getting forward well esp in the first half, his distribution was pretty poor. IMO Nige gave his best interview yet. His comments on De Ridder were especially revealing, admitting that he doesn't see him as a winger and that his crossing his not up to scratch. Rather, he is more dangerous as a second striker or in the hole, driving at defenders. The consensus on here was that De Ridder was a defensive liability; it turns out that he isn't seen as enough of a threat from a wide position. I agree with NA: SDR tend lofts/chips too many crosses and his decision-making is still raw as illustrated by our glorious chance in the dying seconds. At home, our lack of width doesn't matter as our fullbacks can take up the mantle; but its a different matter away from home where the fullbacks are busier defending. Its more or less inevitable that some width on the right will be brought in Jan. Edited 10 December, 2011 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 IMO Nige gave his best interview yet. His comments on De Ridder were especially revealing, admitting that he doesn't see him as a winger and that his crossing his not up to scratch. Rather, he is more dangerous as a second striker or in the hole, driving at defenders. The consensus on here was that De Ridder was a defensive liability; it turns out that he isn't seen as enough of a threat from a wide position. This is confusing to me, considering when he signed Adkins told us he was "a fast winger with a great cross on him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Morgan returns to the side our form drops, it's no coincidence IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2011 This is confusing to me, considering when he signed Adkins told us he was "a fast winger with a great cross on him". Check his cliche-free interview - says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Morgan returns to the side our form drops, it's no coincidence IMO. Garbage. When he went to the middle and took hammond off we got control of the game. Morgans best position is a holding midfielder where he played last 20 mins, hes been playing out of position. Hammonds gone off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 We are looking to sign a forward and a wide right player in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Garbage. When he went to the middle and took hammond off we got control of the game. Morgans best position is a holding midfielder where he played last 20 mins, hes been playing out of position. Hammonds gone off. I agree that's his best (only) position. At right midfield he is awful, even at centre mid he takes too much away from the team IMO, he literally doesn't get forward, not great defensively. he has a good pass, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 We are looking to sign a forward and a wide right player in January Makes total sense, the 2 positions that we most needed to strengthen. SDR just hasn't done it for me, or NA by the sounds of it. Blow the bank and get Adomah and Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I dont rate SDR (from what ive seen) crosses are poor and he seems to take to long to make up his mind and the oppurtinity passes. The chance at the end summed him up for me, makes the wrong choice and frustrates me alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I dont rate SDR (from what ive seen) crosses are poor and he seems to take to long to make up his mind and the oppurtinity passes. The chance at the end summed him up for me, makes the wrong choice and frustrates me alot Flatters to deceive is how I'd describe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 NA started Morgan again on the right. Wonder what people thought of his performance? Its always going to be a case of square pegs and round holes with Morgan, Cork and Hammond in the side; but thought he did well - indeed, he was involved in most of our good attacking play in the 1st half, played neat triangles with the forward players/Richardson and we arguably looked blunter when he went to the base of the diamond in the 2nd half. Its good to see Morgan being coaxed out of his shell and, hopefully, when he reverts back to CM he doesn't forget that he doesn't need security clearance or travel documents to break forward. It also seems that Morgan is fast becoming NA's first choice midfielder. Interesting that whenever NA needs one of our players to do a job -i.e. to mark Koren or snuff out a dangerous Blackpool midfield, Morgan is entrusted. Hammond has been off the pace recently; and though Cork looked better today, getting forward well esp in the first half, his distribution was pretty poor. IMO Nige gave his best interview yet. His comments on De Ridder were especially revealing, admitting that he doesn't see him as a winger and that his crossing his not up to scratch. Rather, he is more dangerous as a second striker or in the hole, driving at defenders. The consensus on here was that De Ridder was a defensive liability; it turns out that he isn't seen as enough of a threat from a wide position. I agree with NA: SDR tend lofts/chips too many crosses and his decision-making is still raw as illustrated by our glorious chance in the dying seconds. At home, our lack of width doesn't matter as our fullbacks can take up the mantle; but its a different matter away from home where the fullbacks are busier defending. Its more or less inevitable that some width will be brought in Jan. I rate all of our central midfielders, Cork, Hammond and Schneiderlin. Equally, I am a firm believer in only playing the two form players from that group in midfield, then bringing the other as a replacement for one of the original two at some time in the second half. Why, because it maintains the bite in midfield that always seems to drop off at some point, whoever is originally playing. I would have been far happier to have had a Butterfield rather than Schneiderlin, that does not mean I believe Schneiderlin had a bad game, but getting the best from the squad. Same with De Ridder, he has put in some excellent performances coming on as a sub because he is going against tired legs and he puts far more into the effort. If you start the game it is totally impractical to go charging around from the first minute, you have to pace yourself for the game. For the moment De Ridder should be left as an impact player IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I dont rate SDR (from what ive seen) crosses are poor and he seems to take to long to make up his mind and the oppurtinity passes. The chance at the end summed him up for me, makes the wrong choice and frustrates me alot I can agree with that, he has a lot of huff and puff with little end product, but he still is valuable when trying to break open a team late on as they have to try and deal with him. As for Morgan he is starting to carve out a starting place for himself, he looked much better on the right today, and IMO is a much better option than hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Morgan Schneiderlin is a good technical player but his lack of confidence in front of the opposition goal cost us today on at least one occasion - for gwads sake, when you're in a good shooting position then shoot boy ! Don't try too offload the responsibility onto someone else every time, you never know it might fly in. As for Steve De Ridder, you can tell he's trying so very hard to make a impact here, but is he trying too hard or is he really good enough in the first place ? I have to say his first instinct upon receiving the ball seems to be to turn away from the goal - a bad habit in a forward player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 He was P@ss Poor today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Garbage. When he went to the middle and took hammond off we got control of the game. Morgans best position is a holding midfielder where he played last 20 mins, hes been playing out of position. Hammonds gone off.that's how I see it. Any loss of form is down to losing Chaplow and Lallana being injured??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 that's how I see it. Any loss of form is down to losing Chaplow and Lallana being injured???As far as I am aware, Lallana was fully over his injury today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I agree that's his best (only) position. At right midfield he is awful, even at centre mid he takes too much away from the team IMO, he literally doesn't get forward, not great defensively. he has a good pass, that's it. Completely disagree. He is our most composed midfield player. Hammond is all action, but is nowhere near as good as Morgan at passing. Cork is a better version of Hammond. Cork & Morgan could play in the PL - Hammond could not IMHO. Did you watch Ferguson today?? Always wants the ball, always passing & pressing. Morgan is a younger better version of him. All IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I am having serious doubts about De Ridder. He could not see the pass that would have won it for us in the final minute. Go down the parks tomoorow and you will see much lesser players who see the equivalent and complete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Also I thought Hammond was very poor again apart from his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 De Ridder will come good I reckon. Just needs to settle down a bit and relax - anyone remember Gulys first few games for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I really want De Ridder to do well but I am yet to be convinced. He's either trying too hard or simply isn't good enough but either way he's disappointing. We should have won the game with that late run of his but his first touch was not good enough. I really want to be proved wrong by Steve so please, please start showing your true potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Thought Morgan played really well on the right today - he was lost out there against Hull but today, especially in the first half I thought he was good. As for SDR, I think that part of the problem is the way we are using him - he only gets 20minutes a game and clearly wants more/to impress enough to start. Although he should have squared it today the fact he didn't seemed to show me that he is desperate to give the gaffer a reason to put him in next game (i.e by scoring the winner). I do agree with the general consensus though, at home we can play narrow, intricate football with the full backs bombing on. Away from home we can't do it and that's where we got caught out (especially at Bristol). Give SDR time I think he will come good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Whatever your views on Morgan, Hammond, De Ridder and others - it was clear to me that we looked a better and more balanced side when Hammond went off, Morgan went central and we had Lallana and De Ridder on the wings. We miss Chappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Whatever your views on Morgan, Hammond, De Ridder and others - it was clear to me that we looked a better and more balanced side when Hammond went off, Morgan went central and we had Lallana and De Ridder on the wings. We miss Chappers. This is it in a nutshell. I like Deano a lot but as the season has worn on it is clear that Morgan and Cork are the best pairing. That's not to write Deano off by any stretch and I like the fact that we rotate them. Once Chappers comes back we will start firing again I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Good call about Chaplow. We definitely miss him. When is he due back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Good call about Chaplow. We definitely miss him. When is he due back? I would also like to know this - if he was back next Sunday it would be a HUGE boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Makes total sense, the 2 positions that we most needed to strengthen. SDR just hasn't done it for me, or NA by the sounds of it. Blow the bank and get Adomah and Maynard I agree. Schneiderlin is very good at giving the impression he is good. Most of his passes are sideways, he is elegant without achieving anything and yet there are still some who rate him. I would put him firmly in the Oakley class - looks good but does not actually DO a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I agree. Schneiderlin is very good at giving the impression he is good. Most of his passes are sideways, he is elegant without achieving anything and yet there are still some who rate him. I would put him firmly in the Oakley class - looks good but does not actually DO a lot. Oi steady on there! You're not having a pop at Oakley are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I agree. Schneiderlin is very good at giving the impression he is good. Most of his passes are sideways, he is elegant without achieving anything and yet there are still some who rate him. I would put him firmly in the Oakley class - looks good but does not actually DO a lot. Terrible habit that ....keeping possession of the football ...tsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Steve was poor today, not up to how I've seen him playing in his cameo roles as super sub. He hesitated too often where previously he'd baffle his opponents. Needs to up his game. If not can never see him doing anything in the Premiership if we gain promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrasri Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 "Thought Morgan played really well on the right today - he was lost out there against Hull but today, especially in the first half I thought he was good." I'm not sure I should post, because I don't seem to know anything (don't recognise a diamond when it's there in front of me - just looks like a lot of players in the middle), but people around me today (and they should know) said Morgan was not very good on the right because he made the wrong choices about passing/shooting and lost the confidence towards the end of the first half of his team mates who refused to give him the ball and kept play on the crowded left. I'm confused because I thought he was rubbish/a liability until he went back to his usual position - then he started rocking! I think SDR is trying too hard to fit in to role that is not natural to him - he was a threat down the wing in his first games, he should be pacey and direct - it wont pay off every time but he will make it difficult for opposing defences and give AL more space by pulling defenders away. But, hey, I know nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 On Steve de Ridder: I have a Dutch friend who supports Ajax, who were looking very closely at signing him in the summer. He said that one failing which put them off was that whilst he he has a good engine to get up and down the pitch and has immense technical ability, he is not selfish enough in front of goal: he will always look to play in a teammate in a better position than him. I think he might be going through a bit of a transition in his playing, shame in today's game he didn't ( referring back to my mate) revert back to his de Graafschap days when Guly & Lallana were queuing up in acres of space. As for Morgan, when he is on the pitch he sets the tempo of our whole play, just like Oakey did in his pomp under WGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 I agree. Schneiderlin is very good at giving the impression he is good. Most of his passes are sideways, he is elegant without achieving anything and yet there are still some who rate him. I would put him firmly in the Oakley class - looks good but does not actually DO a lot. Agree with that!, Morgan seems to see alot of the ball but does not actually do much with it. For me he is a bit of an enigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 10 December, 2011 Share Posted 10 December, 2011 Agree with that!, Morgan seems to see alot of the ball but does not actually do much with it. Apart from keep it?! Tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Originally Posted by aintforever Morgan returns to the side our form drops, it's no coincidence IMO. Garbage. When he went to the middle and took hammond off we got control of the game. Morgans best position is a holding midfielder where he played last 20 mins, hes been playing out of position. Hammonds gone off. agree with Roger.....took me half an hour to realise Hammond was even on the pitch.....Schneiderlin is a class act and one of our most gifted players..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Morgan Schneiderlin is a good technical player but his lack of confidence in front of the opposition goal cost us today on at least one occasion - for gwads sake, when you're in a good shooting position then shoot boy ! Don't try too offload the responsibility onto someone else every time, you never know it might fly in. As for Steve De Ridder, you can tell he's trying so very hard to make a impact here, but is he trying too hard or is he really good enough in the first place ? I have to say his first instinct upon receiving the ball seems to be to turn away from the goal - a bad habit in a forward player. I agree totally with this....the number of times I was waiting for someone to pull the trigger.....are we trying to pass the ball into the net??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 I rate all of our central midfielders, Cork, Hammond and Schneiderlin. Equally, I am a firm believer in only playing the two form players from that group in midfield, then bringing the other as a replacement for one of the original two at some time in the second half. Why, because it maintains the bite in midfield that always seems to drop off at some point, whoever is originally playing. I would have been far happier to have had a Butterfield rather than Schneiderlin, that does not mean I believe Schneiderlin had a bad game, but getting the best from the squad. Same with De Ridder, he has put in some excellent performances coming on as a sub because he is going against tired legs and he puts far more into the effort. If you start the game it is totally impractical to go charging around from the first minute, you have to pace yourself for the game. For the moment De Ridder should be left as an impact player IMHO. Yawn - can you make a comment that literally everyone doesn't already know !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 On Steve de Ridder: I have a Dutch friend who supports Ajax, who were looking very closely at signing him in the summer. He said that one failing which put them off was that whilst he he has a good engine to get up and down the pitch and has immense technical ability, he is not selfish enough in front of goal: he will always look to play in a teammate in a better position than him. I think he might be going through a bit of a transition in his playing, shame in today's game he didn't ( referring back to my mate) revert back to his de Graafschap days when Guly & Lallana were queuing up in acres of space. As for Morgan, when he is on the pitch he sets the tempo of our whole play, just like Oakey did in his pomp under WGS. a beter analogy would be Chappers - slightly more relevant to the current situation........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Thought Morgan played really well on the right today - he was lost out there against Hull but today, especially in the first half I thought he was good. As for SDR, I think that part of the problem is the way we are using him - he only gets 20minutes a game and clearly wants more/to impress enough to start. Although he should have squared it today the fact he didn't seemed to show me that he is desperate to give the gaffer a reason to put him in next game (i.e by scoring the winner). I do agree with the general consensus though, at home we can play narrow, intricate football with the full backs bombing on. Away from home we can't do it and that's where we got caught out (especially at Bristol). Give SDR time I think he will come good for us. Utter rubbish .............Do you actually go to watch him??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 I agree. Schneiderlin is very good at giving the impression he is good. Most of his passes are sideways, he is elegant without achieving anything and yet there are still some who rate him. I would put him firmly in the Oakley class - looks good but does not actually DO a lot. For every manager that we had Oakley was always the first player on the team-sheet and its no surprise that he had no shortage of offers when we let him go - a truly stupid decision in my opinion. I would back their opinion against yours any day. BTW that goes for Schneiderlin too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Personally i think De Ridder is not really up to this level. The lad tries and will run down the ball and has to be praised for that attitude. However he can't dribble, can't keep control of the ball, has a poor first touch, can't cross and can't shoot. Running fast in a straight line will be fine in the lower leagues but in this one you need more then that. The whole technical ability comment above just does not fit him at all. He got totally blasted by the players today when it was 4 on 2 at the end and he ran it out. That is his problem, he can't control the ball, he loses it or knocks it against his own shin and it will then go out of play or to the opposition. That said i think he needs to start a few games. By doing that will give him the chance to learn more then he does in the 30-15mins that he get's. If after that he can't play on the wing then we have to buy someone in the window. I want to like the lad but he makes so many mistakes. Lambo blasted him for some poor crosses today. As i say maybe a run in the starting line up will give him the chance to learn and adapt. I would rather risk that then keep playing Morgan on the right which just hasen't worked. Morgan should be in the centre with Cork imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 De Ridder will be fine he is just taking a while to settle in and I agree with Adkins use of him as a striker and from the bench. He is a very good impact player and he has already earned us some points from this position already. I honestly don’t think the fans are helping him with the constant 'Steve' chants the fans are putting far too much pressure on him. Fine to do it if he does something good or scores a goal but leave at that please. As for Schneiderlin I won’t judge him as a right midfield player as he simply isn't one. I would play Morgan at home and Hammond away both partnered with Cork. The reasons should be obvious to most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Is SDR becoming another 'meh' signing by Adkins? I was quite excited initially, reference De Ridder,but the 'best of' on youtube can often be deceiving ...a few glimpses of talent but nothing to get excited about at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 If Adkins thought de Ridder would be a replacement for Oxlade-Chamberlain he knows by now that he isn't, as shown by SDR's failure to become a first choice player as Alex was. In fairness, you can't replace a £15m player with some one for a few hundred thousand and expect the same performance but all the more reason to spend the Chamberlain money on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 11 December, 2011 I think SDR still offers something - its just not the wing. He is direct and quick, can turn and beat a man under pressure and has a decent shot. He has singlehandedly changed games when he has come on - his performance up at Cardiff, feeding off Lambert's flicks and layoffs, was outstanding. That earned him a start against Watford, albeit he was put on the wing. People can't get their heads around the possibility that he might be better as a second striker but it potentially solves a few problems. If Schneiderlin isn't working on the right (I think hes been OK), I would move Guly back back there and put SDR upfront. Secondly, it makes it less necessary or likely we will bring in somebody like Maynard - SDR can play on the shoulder of the last defender. Instead, we bring in pace on the wings and direct cover for Lambert which a Maynard-type player never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 sdr is getting a lot of stick here for what was ultimately one touch that was slightlyntoo heavy at the end of the game. ok we could have scored but it wasnt be. ineterestingly Guly (who i thought had a decnt game) has taken no stick at all for his complete in ability to get a decent chance in the air on target with his head. i have counted at least 4 opportunities in the last couple of home games that he could have tested the keepe but put it over or wide. yest sdr is getting grief one poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Yes it's still relatively early days, but I don't rate SDR, enthusiastic headless chicken would be the best way to describe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Chaplow has been more influential than we first assumed. we need him back asap. Any news on his possible return ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Anyone that saw SDR in the WBA friendly will know that he sure has talent. Agreed he has known much yet but jeeez he has only played a bit part so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 December, 2011 Share Posted 11 December, 2011 Anyone that saw SDR in the WBA friendly will know that he sure has talent. Agreed he has known much yet but jeeez he has only played a bit part so far! Yeah, that's what frustrates me about him - and many others I'm sure. We all saw his insane ability in that game, yet he's shown none of that when it really matters and has flattered to deceive in most games he's played. I mean when he starts games he's seriously ineffective, he's only useful coming on as a sub. I think it's quite telling that Adkins doesn't see him as a wide player anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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