Kaiser Soze Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Have heard from someone inside the club that we returned 400 tickets. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxosponge Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Seriously who really wants to go to that ****ehole? especially when its on the telly. I know its aboiut support and all that but teh bubble does not help and not really sure anyone wants to give the cheats their hard earned cash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 What I don't understand is why the club wouldn't lower the boundaries for getting tickets if this is the case? It's not as though the skates ar e desperate for more home tickets, they still haven't sold out. Ticket office has become a joke since the departure of David Luker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Personally the fact they never said the number of tickets we received, and refused to tell people who asked, they then did a criptic announcement that "tickets has been taken up" when we know usually they would say saints have sold out X amount of tickets. very strange, the whole thing is a complete shambles, but people like Frank above are talking b0llocks, if fans don't go just because it is on tv they are basically bottling it for the comfort of their sofa simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 So what? our support is Sh*t if that is the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Have heard from someone inside the club that we returned 400 tickets. Good. That's £10,000 revenue that they've got to find themselves.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Good. That's £10,000 revenue that they've got to find themselves.... Not Good. Our support will be ridiculed on national tv for having empty seats for our local derby away game despite being top of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Doesn't this conflict with the OS article about the 2nd ballot and all tickets taken etc the other day? Or have i got the wrong end of the stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Not Good. Our support will be ridiculed on national tv for having empty seats for our local derby away game despite being top of the league It is the Skates support that will be ridiculed, not able to fill their crappy little ground for a local derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 why didn't they lower the boundaries if they have sent back 400? not that i believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 It is the Skates support that will be ridiculed, not able to fill their crappy little ground for a local derby Last I saw they had 200 unsold tickets. I'd imagine at least half of these will be sold. 100 or so empty seats spread out over 16,000 seats won't even be noticed on tele. 400 empty seats in a stand that holds around 3,000 will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 kaiser Soze has an appaling record of being "ITK" Don't shoot the messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Not Good. Our support will be ridiculed on national tv for having empty seats for our local derby away game despite being top of the league Good job this is only a game of football we're talking about then. Just think what the "ridicule" would be like if it was something important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 It is the Skates support that will be ridiculed, not able to fill their crappy little ground for a local derby They would've sold out come KO. Not selling out for this is quite frankly embarrassing on our part. Where are all the mugs who were paying £60 for Orient tickets and £100 for Bournemouth? The 4,500 that went to Reading for a televised game? Shows our support to be full of soft mincers who'd rather a happy clappy, nice day out at safe old Reading and the like, rather than experience a proper atmosphere at a proper derby game. As for those saying they're not going as they don't want to give any money to the Skates, so you'll just be watching it on the TV. I assume you don't have a TV License and don't have a Sky subscription? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Ah...so our away support figures will only be about three times the size of theirs instead of four....and we get to deprive them of some income...and we get less people struck down with e coli from the toilets so not all totally bad. I do fear it's more a victory for Hampshire police though...they made it too bl**dy awkward for many to bother - we'll still d*ck them at St Mary's if they've not been wound up, condemned, jailed...pick your own reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindaloo Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 They would've sold out come KO. Not selling out for this is quite frankly embarrassing on our part. Where are all the mugs who were paying £60 for Orient tickets and £100 for Bournemouth? The 4,500 that went to Reading for a televised game? Shows our support to be full of soft mincers who'd rather a happy clappy, nice day out at safe old Reading and the like, rather than experience a proper atmosphere at a proper derby game. As for those saying they're not going as they don't want to give any money to the Skates, so you'll just be watching it on the TV. I assume you don't have a TV License and don't have a Sky subscription? Yeah I totally agree it's very embarrassing but they made it too much hard work for me. I don't have a ST but was at Reading and Bristol City away this year. This still meant I couldn't apply. I could have asked my mates to apply on their ST but in the end couldnt be f*cked to mess about with the application coz I thought I wouldnt get one. They should have just let us queue down the ground for the remaining 400 coz no doubt there would have been plenty more like me who would have gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Good job this is only a game of football we're talking about then. Just think what the "ridicule" would be like if it was something important. never again can we take pride in our support, 4200 to Reading, 55000 to Wembley, 4000 to Orient, all means absolutely nothing if we can't muster 3k to take down the road for the biggest one of them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Well, as we've all heard so many different conflicting stories about the 'bubble' so far, I'll reserve judgement. One thing is for sure, they've certainly not encouraged fans to travel down. But should we get a repeat of 2005 the only people who should feel entitled to moan should be the ones that were actually there - if some of the fans "can't be bothered" you'll be no better that the players if they bottle it. Silver lining, if the skates have to follow the same criteria for the match at SMS and only sell to ST holders who've done X-amount of aways, they'll only need 500 tickets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Good job this is only a game of football we're talking about then. Just think what the "ridicule" would be like if it was something important. Says the bloke with nearly 17k posts on a football forum ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 never again can we take pride in our support, 4200 to Reading, 55000 to Wembley, 4000 to Orient, all means absolutely nothing if we can't muster 3k to take down the road for the biggest one of them all You may well be the biggest drama queen on this site. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 You may well be the biggest drama queen on this site. Congratulations. you're not going to Fratton either then? i am sure you'll be safe in your nice and friendly household shouting at your tv then rushing on here to discuss the performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Now I'm the first one to take a pop at the melts but tbh I can't believe we couldn't have shifted the last few tickets if it wasn't so restrictive and opebned up to the database - where's any risk in that? And there's still 2 weeks to the game, these tickets could have been sold if they really wanted - this all suits the OB no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 You may well be the biggest drama queen on this site. Congratulations. How is he? He's stating facts. This is our biggest game of the season (along with the Skates at home) and we can't even sell it out. Everyone on here was banging on about how amazing our support was at Wembley, yet failing to take 3,000 down the road for a game that's far bigger than that is quite frankly a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 We've got 13k season ticket holders. Each could buy two tickets.Yet we haven't sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 why would we send 400 back when there is still 13 days left to sell them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 How is he? He's stating facts. This is our biggest game of the season (along with the Skates at home) and we can't even sell it out. Everyone on here was banging on about how amazing our support was at Wembley, yet failing to take 3,000 down the road for a game that's far bigger than that is quite frankly a disgrace. You are, of course, assuming that the OP was correct and not another pile of bulls hit that is all too prevailent on here. Its not as if the OP has never been wrong before, but at leasts it gives the usual suspects the chance to get all worked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 why would we send 400 back when there is still 13 days left to sell them? Exactly, that would be bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 You are, of course, assuming that the OP was correct and not another pile of bulls hit that is all too prevailent on here. Its not as if the OP has never been wrong before, but at leasts it gives the usual suspects the chance to get all worked up. facts; - ticket office confirmed "everyone who applied has got a ticket" = highly unlikely to be sold out is it? - ticket office refused to confirm what our allocation is when asked, just bluffing saying do not have that information available - why? - rather than announcing a "sell out" they just said tickets had been taken up, again with no acknowledgement of allocation and number sold. the whole thing has been a bizarre shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Says the bloke with nearly 17k posts on a football forum ha ha. My point entirely. (Ha ha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 You are, of course, assuming that the OP was correct and not another pile of bulls hit that is all too prevailent on here. Its not as if the OP has never been wrong before, but at leasts it gives the usual suspects the chance to get all worked up. No, but I think you'll find it ties in with the post on the other thread from someone who called the club to be told that everyone that applied in both ballots got a ticket. Still think we sold out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Don't believe this for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 never again can we take pride in our support, 4200 to Reading, 55000 to Wembley, 4000 to Orient, all means absolutely nothing if we can't muster 3k to take down the road for the biggest one of them all "Never again....." Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 No, but I think you'll find it ties in with the post on the other thread from someone who called the club to be told that everyone that applied in both ballots got a ticket. Still think we sold out? The club have provided conflicting messages throughout (or just no message at all), so I'll be taking no notice of any "the ticket office told me..." stories for this one. We'll see how many we've got when we get to that ****hole next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Also did anyone see Saturday’s Daily Echo? They did a full page on the bubble arrangements, with two sides given for and against the use of the bubble, the against side was argued by Steve Grant of Saintsweb fame and came across making all the correct points, highlighting inconvenience and freedom of movement. The For argument was written by celebrity copper Rick Burrows and was quite simply the most mis-informed disgusting read , in his attempt to justify use of the bubble he goes on to say that unfortunately football violence has been linked to tragedy too often in the past but then uses the examples of HILLSBOROUGH and BRADFORD!!! I am tempted to do a letter to the echo and to Mr Burrows to point out that Bradford was caused by a FIRE IN A WOODEN STAND, and Hillsborough was caused by over-crowding, fans without tickets, POLICE incompetence, and fencing. Nothing that his Bubble will assist with!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Also did anyone see Saturday’s Daily Echo? They did a full page on the bubble arrangements, with two sides given for and against the use of the bubble, the against side was argued by Steve Grant of Saintsweb fame and came across making all the correct points, highlighting inconvenience and freedom of movement. The For argument was written by celebrity copper Rick Burrows and was quite simply the most mis-informed disgusting read , in his attempt to justify use of the bubble he goes on to say that unfortunately football violence has been linked to tragedy too often in the past but then uses the examples of HILLSBOROUGH and BRADFORD!!! I am tempted to do a letter to the echo and to Mr Burrows to point out that Bradford was caused by a FIRE IN A WOODEN STAND, and Hillsborough was caused by over-crowding, fans without tickets, POLICE incompetence, and fencing. Nothing that his Bubble will assist with!!!! That's pretty shocking. Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 "Never again....." Indeed. we can get a big cup draw, say Arsenal away, take 9000 and it will rightly be pointed out where were all these people at Fratton?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 That's pretty shocking. Do you have a link? no it was in saturdays paper, about 12 pages in, if anyone has it scan it in for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Also did anyone see Saturday’s Daily Echo? They did a full page on the bubble arrangements, with two sides given for and against the use of the bubble, the against side was argued by Steve Grant of Saintsweb fame and came across making all the correct points, highlighting inconvenience and freedom of movement. The For argument was written by celebrity copper Rick Burrows and was quite simply the most mis-informed disgusting read , in his attempt to justify use of the bubble he goes on to say that unfortunately football violence has been linked to tragedy too often in the past but then uses the examples of HILLSBOROUGH and BRADFORD!!! I am tempted to do a letter to the echo and to Mr Burrows to point out that Bradford was caused by a FIRE IN A WOODEN STAND, and Hillsborough was caused by over-crowding, fans without tickets, POLICE incompetence, and fencing. Nothing that his Bubble will assist with!!!! Jesus. That's shocking. Isn't that pretty much what the Suns been getting abuse for from scousers all these years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 The club have provided conflicting messages throughout (or just no message at all), so I'll be taking no notice of any "the ticket office told me..." stories for this one. We'll see how many we've got when we get to that ****hole next weekend. Not really. Thats quite a big thing to get wrong, telling someone that everyone that applied has got one (which does seem the case), which means we either had exactly the amount of apps as tickets available or we didn't sell out. Not sure we'll ever know as it depends on how they choose to play around with the segregation, although 400 would be quite hard to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 I would love to believe this is true as I am still waiting to hear anything about my application. I don't go in for the whole its embarrassing we didn't sell out blah. If we had put it on general sale to anyone with a customer number, we would have sold out in days. I know loads of people that would have been up for it but didn't think they would have any chance in the ballot. The problem is that the original poster has a poor track records with his 'inside info' and I still have doubts I will get my tickets. Come on ticket office, sort it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 we can get a big cup draw, say Arsenal away, take 9000 and it will rightly be pointed out where were all these people at Fratton?! I'd be happy to point out the differences, if only I hadn't already used up today's allowance of the 0.8% of my life that I spend on here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Also did anyone see Saturday’s Daily Echo? They did a full page on the bubble arrangements, with two sides given for and against the use of the bubble, the against side was argued by Steve Grant of Saintsweb fame and came across making all the correct points, highlighting inconvenience and freedom of movement. The For argument was written by celebrity copper Rick Burrows and was quite simply the most mis-informed disgusting read , in his attempt to justify use of the bubble he goes on to say that unfortunately football violence has been linked to tragedy too often in the past but then uses the examples of HILLSBOROUGH and BRADFORD!!! I am tempted to do a letter to the echo and to Mr Burrows to point out that Bradford was caused by a FIRE IN A WOODEN STAND, and Hillsborough was caused by over-crowding, fans without tickets, POLICE incompetence, and fencing. Nothing that his Bubble will assist with!!!! Disgusting. Exactly the sort of thing I'd expect from them unfortunately. Should flag it up to the FSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 we can get a big cup draw, say Arsenal away, take 9000 and it will rightly be pointed out where were all these people at Fratton?! because the qualification for a ticket would be different because 9000 is more than 3000 because people dont want to travel under the bubble because people have been to Fratton many times in all probability and nobody has watched Saints at the Emirates if you feel you're embarassed by the fans turnout at an away game thats entirely your right, i suspect you may be the type of person that shouts and tries to bully other people at away games who arent singing. Because not everybody goes to football for the same reasons as you, thats pretty much it in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 facts; - ticket office confirmed "everyone who applied has got a ticket" = highly unlikely to be sold out is it? - ticket office refused to confirm what our allocation is when asked, just bluffing saying do not have that information available - why? - rather than announcing a "sell out" they just said tickets had been taken up, again with no acknowledgement of allocation and number sold. the whole thing has been a bizarre shambles. Not disputing the "shambles" bit, but it was the 1st ballot that had everybody getting a ticket. The 2nd may well have made it a sell out. My point, which Steve has also made, is that there has been no definite figure made public. Trolls come on here and post stuff which others then jump on and rant, assuming it to be fact. Refer back to the Dan Seaborne Attacked thread as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Also did anyone see Saturday’s Daily Echo? They did a full page on the bubble arrangements, with two sides given for and against the use of the bubble, the against side was argued by Steve Grant of Saintsweb fame and came across making all the correct points, highlighting inconvenience and freedom of movement. The For argument was written by celebrity copper Rick Burrows and was quite simply the most mis-informed disgusting read , in his attempt to justify use of the bubble he goes on to say that unfortunately football violence has been linked to tragedy too often in the past but then uses the examples of HILLSBOROUGH and BRADFORD!!! I am tempted to do a letter to the echo and to Mr Burrows to point out that Bradford was caused by a FIRE IN A WOODEN STAND, and Hillsborough was caused by over-crowding, fans without tickets, POLICE incompetence, and fencing. Nothing that his Bubble will assist with!!!! What a complete and utter moron. Someone post that on a Liverpool forum along with his email address... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 because the qualification for a ticket would be different because 9000 is more than 3000 because people dont want to travel under the bubble because people have been to Fratton many times in all probability and nobody has watched Saints at the Emirates if you feel you're embarassed by the fans turnout at an away game thats entirely your right, i suspect you may be the type of person that shouts and tries to bully other people at away games who arent singing. Because not everybody goes to football for the same reasons as you, thats pretty much it in a nutshell wrong. we have 13000ish season ticket holders who could each get 2 with no away games done, that is 26000 roughly available, plus database with 4+ away games, out of the span we seem to have failed to sell 3k, becuase basically a lot of our fans don't fancy it. we have had other threads where people have compared out support to that of other clubs, but failing to sell out a local derby would put us in the bracket of a Fulham or Blackburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 Not disputing the "shambles" bit, but it was the 1st ballot that had everybody getting a ticket. The 2nd may well have made it a sell out. My point, which Steve has also made, is that there has been no definite figure made public. Trolls come on here and post stuff which others then jump on and rant, assuming it to be fact. Refer back to the Dan Seaborne Attacked thread as an example. i take your point that we don't have actual firm figures from the club so to some extent will never know. but if "everyone who applied" got a ticket then that should be a give away realy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 December, 2011 Share Posted 5 December, 2011 IF, and I say IF, it is true then it's a joke effort from our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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