Turkish Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Well that was f*cking rubbish. 1 shot on target and never a threat. I'm sure some of you happy clappy find will spin it that it was an amazing performance and we were unlucky though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Well that was f*cking rubbish. 1 shot on target and never a threat. I'm sure some of you happy clappy find will spin it that it was an amazing performance and we were unlucky though. We're a mid table squad who has over-achieved so far this season, so we're always going to have off games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Can't afford any more off games. Fortunately WHU also lost, but that will encourage the teams in positions 3 to 10 that the top 2 are catchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Waiting for bus back to train station in donny! So sh!t, Hammond was just awful, and guly can't play on his own! Reallly disappointing... Didn't really come close once. And to add insult it's started rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Rich, that was ****, even worse than Brizzle. Play like that at fratton and we will get dicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 And Guly is not a striker. Adkins got it badly wrong today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 And Guly is not a striker. Adkins got it badly wrong today. It's not like Guly has never played up front before. His best form for us has come in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Waiting for bus back to train station in donny! So sh!t, Hammond was just awful, and guly can't play on his own! Reallly disappointing... Didn't really come close once. And to add insult it's started rain! Hammond is usually awful, some rate him but they must think that Cliff Huxford and Docker Walker are 2 of the greatest footballers ever to grace the old green rectangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 I don't understand how we can be so different in terms of quality away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 It's not like Guly has never played up front before. His best form for us has come in that position. As a second striker with lambert not the main man upfront tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Don't think it was quite as bad as Bristol but it was pretty sh!t nevertheless. Three very dodgy performances on the trot now. Does not bode well for Nottarf Krap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 And Guly is not a striker. Adkins got it badly wrong today. Who else is there?? A half fit Barnard,Kids. A player like Barnard.. well Habib Beye has seen a few of those and not even broken into a sweat all afternoon.Great player, should be on loan with us, Firkin travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 And Guly is not a striker. Adkins got it badly wrong today. As a lone striker/target man???? I certainly wouldn't have played him upfront on his own. Lambert on his own, yes, but not Guly. Personally would have gone with Barnard and stuck 4-4-2 or with Guly behind Barnard maybe. Not sure either way and one thing it does is highlight that we are a bit short up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 It's not like Guly has never played up front before. His best form for us has come in that position. But not as the target man. He is better as the typical number 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 We're a mid table squad who has over-achieved so far this season, so we're always going to have off games. Been saying it since August, glad you agee. Can I persuade you that Hoddle should have been appointed in 2004 and can we agree that the failure to do so set of the events leading to our relegation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Guly needs to sweep away the whole width of the field just behind the lead front man so he can feed it through. That is his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 (edited) Spiderman his usual world class performance...game after game. How does he do it? Sorry forgot to add ....... clubs falling over themselves to sign him:rolleyes: WIFM Edited 3 December, 2011 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Been saying it since August, glad you agee. Can I persuade you that Hoddle should have been appointed in 2004 and can we agree that the failure to do so set of the events leading to our relegation ? I don't mind people having a go at the team for losing a game, but when they are having a go thinking we shouldn't lose any games in our first year in a better division, that's what annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Rich, that was ****, even worse than Brizzle. Play like that at fratton and we will get dicked. We are just saying exactly that in the pub. Very poor today, when will Adkins realise 3 central midfielders won't work. Schinderlin in the attacking midfield role was a basic error, he is not an attacking midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 We are just saying exactly that in the pub. Very poor today, when will Adkins realise 3 central midfielders won't work. Schinderlin in the attacking midfield role was a basic error, he is not an attacking midfielder. That's true, but what other attacking central midfielders do we have? Cork is sort of inbetween, and Spiderman and Hammond are both defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 I don't understand how we can be so different in terms of quality away from home. Either attitude of the players or tactics of the manager. What else can it be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 That's true, but what other attacking central midfielders do we have? Cork is sort of inbetween, and Spiderman and Hammond are both defensive. except that it's Cork who starts in the defensive role... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 That's true, but what other attacking central midfielders do we have? Cork is sort of inbetween, and Spiderman and Hammond are both defensive. Most peeps can see that it does not work with all three on in the midfield....two from three for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Either attitude of the players or tactics of the manager. What else can it be ? Alpine I agree we should have signed another striker in summer, we rely on our best player lambert too much. Formation was wrong and was a terrible result and performacne today. However, you are far too negative, gets some perspective. We are top of the league and our home form is great. Im gutted but as long as we learn from this we will be fine now. Also get sir rickie lambert back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 I always think one attacking in the centre, i.e Chaplow and then one defensive, I'd put Schiederlin in, but I doubt he'll start over Hammond and Hammond is pretty damn good anyways. But I think you need that for balance, not 2 attacking and not 2 defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Just got back. Guly was a lanky waste of space again. F/cking useless and anyone who thinks he'd be good enough for the Premiership is having a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Since '51 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Spiderman played off Guly in first half - strange decision. Reversed at half time, so clearly didn't work. Guly as main striker didn't work; his first time close control is not good enough for him to play as a target man. He also became disheartened by the end. SDR played wide first half and tghen off Guly second half. Then was taken off. Enough said. Tons of possession and lots of corners in the first half, without really creating clear chances. Second half dire; couldn't believe it could get worse after substitutions, but it did. I don't think we had a shot on target second half. Very poor and very disheartening to see how much our play going forward relies upon Lambert. Disappointing that Lallana couldn't step up and play a more influential role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Just got back. Guly was a lanky waste of space again. F/cking useless and anyone who thinks he'd be good enough for the Premiership is having a laugh. Did you fly back to Southampton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-skacel Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 should av used the loan window,not doing so may come back and bite us in the arse!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Disappointed but not despondent after today. We played ok, but definitely need a buy a striker in January. Just lacked a little cutting edge in the final third, and maybe some direction with Lambert severely missed. Doncaster weren't great, it is a weird squad dynamic they have. The only decent loan player on show for them was Beye, who was outstanding as a central defender. If we would have taken our chances it was a comfortable victory, but we didn't and paid the price so no complaints - it happens. Lets hope Lambert is back fit for next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Just back myself. What a shambles. I was hoping brizzle last week was just a one off, but clearly it wasn't. People who say our away form isn't bad, well trust me, it is. I've done 5 away now and they've gotten worse as the season goes on. I agree with posters above that Guly was rubbish today. However, he was CLEARLY struggling up top on his own, it was obvious after half an hour but Adkins didn't do anything to change it - he got it wrong today. Should have started with LB up top with Guly IMO. But what do I know. If Guly was bad then Fox was a total disaster. Every corner he took was an embarrassment. His crosses were pants and his distribution woeful. Where has the player from a month ago gone? The midfield didn't work today. No cohesion, none of the fluidity of games gone by. Hope we can find the balance and trickery we showed earlier in the season. Lallana comes out of today with some credit, looked like the only player on the pitch that wanted to be out there today. Really, very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Been saying it since August, glad you agee. Can I persuade you that Hoddle should have been appointed in 2004 and can we agree that the failure to do so set of the events leading to our relegation ? You know what the answer is, you really do FFS!!!! When we get promoted this year, please don't come on here and say I told you so!!!!!! Just don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raucebysaint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Just back, i can't believe how bad we were up front.. Fantastic football and possession 1st half but no one to shoot or hold the ball up in the box. It was embarassing at times. If we rely that much on Rickie then we are "top of the league, you're having a laugh" after todays performance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Did you fly back to Southampton? I don't live in Southampton le mong. But yes I did motor down the A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Been saying it since August, glad you agee. Can I persuade you that Hoddle should have been appointed in 2004 and can we agree that the failure to do so set of the events leading to our relegation ? Don't push it D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 I don't understand how we can be so different in terms of quality away from home. if you watch saints 30 years ago you would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Alpine I agree we should have signed another striker in summer, we rely on our best player lambert too much. Formation was wrong and was a terrible result and performance today. However, you are far too negative, gets some perspective. We are top of the league and our home form is great. Im gutted but as long as we learn from this we will be fine now. Also get sir rickie lambert back. Sorry and the positives are? We managed one shot on target which btw went straight at the goalkeeper in 90 mins against the team bottom Of the league, won one in nine and were absolute sh*te. Remind me what the positives are from that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Spiderman his usual world class performance...game after game. How does he do it? Sorry forgot to add ....... clubs falling over themselves to sign him:rolleyes: WIFM Don't forget he's onE of our players who will be better in the premier league, forget he's been averAge at beat in the championship and league one. Once he gets to the top flight he'll prove how good he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 The overreactions in here are silly. It hurts to lose that game as we had the lions share of possession, did decent work with the ball but lacked a cutting edge and a real goal threat. Guly operates on his own wavelength but the criticism he gets is unfair - as long as he tries there should be no complaints, and he always tries. De Ridder is used to playing with the ball into space and not to feet and it will continue to take time for him to bed in with how we play. Barnard is coming back from injury and deserves a chance. We missed Lambert today who has been outstanding this season and the focal point of our attack. Had we been played off the park, lacked ideas or purpose then we can be unhappy. But today was one of those days. We're still top of the league, have some clear things to work on (away form being one of them in addition to being hit on the counter), but don't lose sight of the bigger picture. The Manager has acknowledged things, isn't pretending the problems don't exist, and will continue to get the most out of what we have got. Does my head in when the crowd groan when moves break down like we should be tearing teams apart all the time. It is approaching arrogance from some fans who are forgetting how far we've come in such a short time. This is a hard league and there will be ups and downs. But to see people lose perspective because we've had an outstanding 4 months is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 I'm sure some of you happy clappy find will spin it... If we want Pompey relegated we need to make sure that teams like Bristol Rovers and Doncaster pick up points. Today really was a step in the right direction for us. That's not even clutching for straws - everyone ought to see it that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Don't forget he's onE of our players who will be better in the premier league, forget he's been averAge at beat in the championship and league one. Once he gets to the top flight he'll prove how good he is He can be a good player on his day but not the answer for me whether he plays deep or in a more advanced position. Subs bench to be used later in game if need be. Once we get in the big boyzz league Arsenal can have him as we will have Corby Moore and Ward-Prowse in the middle with Corky and Rooney pushing forward. Not my cup of tea....but I am sure NA knows what he is doing......as we are top:) Windows will be on to tell me what I am missing with Spiderman:blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 December, 2011 /\ only an imbicile will use possession as evidence we were unlucky today. Anyone can play a 10 yard sideways pass unchallenged. What did we do with all our possession? Nothing. We created one chance against a team who had won one home game all season. Like is say I'm sure some of you morons will spin it that we played brilliantly and were unlucky but the simple fact is we were sh*te. The tactics were awful and naive and 1-0 flattered us against the team bottom Of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Sorry but is NA just becoming a little convinced by his own success to date - I am detecting just a shade of arrogance in his very strange repetition that was clearly not working Bristol - Why repeat the same pointless exercise again with the three defensive stooges in Midfield?????? If you don't have an alternative then you should have, with our resources and the time we have had to bolster a squad which is patently thin. De Ridder cannot play from the start - I think we all know that now....Why do we play with one up front against bottom of the league - Don't care who you are that just isn't logical.....Too much tinkering with tactics - we should replace players with like for like......I think NA has to face up to a few tactical and personnel clangers recently and particularly away.......Yes yes yes before the happy clappies start on we all know we are top of the league and NA is God but even God does some things which confuse us.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 The overreactions in here are silly. It hurts to lose that game as we had the lions share of possession, did decent work with the ball but lacked a cutting edge and a real goal threat. Guly operates on his own wavelength but the criticism he gets is unfair - as long as he tries there should be no complaints, and he always tries. De Ridder is used to playing with the ball into space and not to feet and it will continue to take time for him to bed in with how we play. Barnard is coming back from injury and deserves a chance. We missed Lambert today who has been outstanding this season and the focal point of our attack. Had we been played off the park, lacked ideas or purpose then we can be unhappy. But today was one of those days. We're still top of the league, have some clear things to work on (away form being one of them in addition to being hit on the counter), but don't lose sight of the bigger picture. The Manager has acknowledged things, isn't pretending the problems don't exist, and will continue to get the most out of what we have got. Does my head in when the crowd groan when moves break down like we should be tearing teams apart all the time. It is approaching arrogance from some fans who are forgetting how far we've come in such a short time. This is a hard league and there will be ups and downs. But to see people lose perspective because we've had an outstanding 4 months is pathetic. The missing of RL today is a complete red herring - he played at Bristol........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Butterfield on the bench could have given us an emergency fix up front allowing Barnard to start or vice versa. (hat trick for Palace knocking Wolves out of FA Cup a couple of years ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 We moved the ball well enough into the final third. We lacked proper invention or cutting edge once up there. Not all of our possession was messing about in defence. We threaded it nicely through the team but everything broke down in the final third, for me down to over-engineering things. De Ridder trying to do things at 100mph, Guly a bit unsure of his role, while Schneiderlin and Lallana are guilty of trying to overcomplicate things at times. It wasn't a good mix today and we wasted opportunities. Even Barnard's hustle and bustle looked a little misplaced. We just weren't controlled in the final third - whether it was down to anxiousness due to the lack of Lambert, or a lack of understanding of what everyone expected each other to do without him in the team I don't know. But on another day had Schneiderlin not blasted his shot straight at the keeper, or a calm ball squared for a tap in a few times we wouldn't be talking about a lucky 3pts, it would have been a professional performance away from home. No need to worry on the back of just that game in my opinion. There are more concerning traits that have occurred over a period of several games - like looking really susceptible on the counter-attack, a lack of movement at times (it is creeping in), and some players far too up and down with their performances (Hammond, Cork, Guly, Fox for starters). But bigger picture, it has been an outstanding season thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Well I'm sorry you lot had a wasted trip to the frozen north, but it could be worse; its just coming up to 8 and I have to go back to work. The job has its compensations though........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Christ, we have constantly over performed, are top of the league, are mathematically 'safe' and still you lot aren't happy. What happened to looking on the positive side, if any of the players are reading this tripe please take no notice, fickle bunch of people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Christ, we have constantly over performed, are top of the league, are mathematically 'safe' and still you lot aren't happy. What happened to looking on the positive side, if any of the players are reading this tripe please take no notice, fickle bunch of people! Shut up you stupid bint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Christ, we have constantly over performed, are top of the league, are mathematically 'safe' and still you lot aren't happy. What happened to looking on the positive side, if any of the players are reading this tripe please take no notice, fickle bunch of people! What VFTT said. Get on with the washing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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