redkeith Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Apart from Vokes, I can't see any players that moved during the loan window that are good enough to start for Saints at the moment, and even he would only start if Ricky was injured. Lets just hope Chappers and Rickie are quick healers. Otherwise, Cork to CH, Fonte as Sweeper, Gully in the Frank Worthington role, and play like 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Sharp scored today, Maynard last week, Jutkiewicz a few weeks ago. So which toerag Skate were we in for in the past is going to score against us on the 18th ? I think there were rumours of us having interest in David Norris a few season ago, and of course Huseklepp. But **** those dirty skate bastards, we'll stuff 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Merrington is saying that Donny won by man-marking our midfield in the second half. From what I've seen we do have a very man-markable midfield - unless Chaplow's in it. Chappers is a huge loss to us and I fear that we'll struggle until he returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Certainly not a wrist slitter and still 100% supportive on Adkins and the team, but: That's the third game on the trot where we've been misfiring and the loss of Chappers and Lambert has added to the woes. A win against Blackpool will cancel this bad memory out (a bit like the Hull win did), but I don't think it's something we can ignore. Was always worried we were a bit lightweight squadwise, just hope I'm not proved right!!! Barnard and De Ridder aren't starters for me, and was always worried if we got an injury (or even a suspension) up front or at the centre of the defence. I know some will say we were always going to lose at some point, but we really do need to be beating teams like Donny home and away (or at the very least getting a point up there). Grind out some results up until January and then give Adkins the freedom to strengthen. Who to buy and making sure it doesn't impact on the balance and spirit of the team is where he will earn his corn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 That was sh1t. Nothing more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Very poor. Away form is simply appalling for a so-called top team (12 from 30) and nowhere near good enough to win this league. Limitations of many of our players now becoming more obvious as the season drags on and other teams have wised up to how they play. Good players find ways of dealing with close marking but it seems most of ours haven't got a clue. Looks less likely now that this group of players will be able to hack it at the higher level, We need to buy one or two really talented people in January to have any chance and Sharpe is not the answer he's as one dimensional as Barnard, de Ridder, Holmes & Fox. Lambert was just effing useless today and Chaplow a complete waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 I hate posts like this. Comfy, comfy acceptance of the avoidable... Hardly, sums things up pretty well. Doesn't mean that we couldn't do with strengthening, as you keep harping on about. Unfortunately, yet again, any justified criticism you make is tainted by melodrama and sniping. Still, why let reason get in the way of a good windup eh? I mean, surely, you must be on a windup. It's the only answer. I refuse to believe that it's possible for anyone to be such a **** without trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Adkins got it all wrong today!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It amazes me that people think he is an astute tactical manager. The team lacks pace up front,nothing is done. Team very vulnerable to being caught on the break, nothing is done. De Ridder, impact player, crap when starting,Guly,luxury player we cant really afford away from home. Been short of a striker,evident to everyone, nothing done. Opponents do their " homework " on us but do Saints bother on them, I do wonder sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 today really pinpointed that we made a huge mistake not getting an additional striker in...apparently deal was nearly done for Jutkiewicz but coventry wanted a million up front, cortese was not prepared hoping to get him cheaper in January..personally Maynard fits the bill... Anyway we are still top, and everyone has a blip, its how we move foward that counts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Top of the league. Played 20. Points accumulated 42. 2 clear of 2nd. 8 clear of 3rd. 12 clear of 7th. Excellent return from the first 20 games. exactly.time for a look at the big picture. Would we have taken this 20 games ago.....of course we would am slightly concerned that one or two individuals arent at the top of their game just now, for whatever reason, and it is now even more obvious that we probably only have 11 or 12 quality players who make us top 2. If 3 or 4 of these are out or off form then the cummulative effect means we are average at best. We need 3 or 4 players equal or better than the first XI in jan if we want to stay top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Very poor. Away form is simply appalling for a so-called top team (12 from 30) and nowhere near good enough to win this league. Nonsense. "Win at home and draw away" is pretty much promotion form - and we're 2 points ahead of a "draw away" average. We've lost our way lately for a variety of reasons but this kind of overstatement is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 There are fans at 23 other Championship teams who would swap league table places with us tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 It amazes me that people think he is an astute tactical manager. The team lacks pace up front,nothing is done. Team very vulnerable to being caught on the break, nothing is done. De Ridder, impact player, crap when starting,Guly,luxury player we cant really afford away from home. Been short of a striker,evident to everyone, nothing done. Opponents do their " homework " on us but do Saints bother on them, I do wonder sometimes. This is a 'learning season' for NA ffs. Remember we only got promoted last season and we have a 5 year plan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 ''Adkins must go'' ''Adkins has lost it'' ''Adkins is a lower league manager'' I assume these texts are skates on a windup, otherwise our fans are completely off their rockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Someone on Radio Solent "Adkins must go" Glad people still have a sense of humour despite a defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 today really pinpointed that we made a huge mistake not getting an additional striker in...apparently deal was nearly done for Jutkiewicz but coventry wanted a million up front, cortese was not prepared hoping to get him cheaper in January..personally Maynard fits the bill... Anyway we are still top, and everyone has a blip, its how we move foward that counts! You get what you DON'T pay for ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 ''Adkins must go'' ''Adkins has lost it'' ''Adkins is a lower league manager'' I assume these texts are skates on a windup, otherwise our fans are completely off their rockers. Must be wind up calls, NA is clearly well ahead of his target of 17th (probably ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 All these people suggesting Luaks Juke, or Jay Rod....I don't think they'll give us anything different. They're big target men...with a bit about them, but if we were to go for a striker I'd like it to be someone who can play on the shoulder, get in behind and be versatile enough to offer width and pace down the flanks if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 It feels great to lose a game and still be top of the league and 8 points above 3rd place! It definitely takes the sting out of defeat. I can see the cracks too but we are in a much, much better place than ANYONE on here ever expected us to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 ''Adkins must go'' ''Adkins has lost it'' ''Adkins is a lower league manager'' I assume these texts are skates on a windup, otherwise our fans are completely off their rockers. I wouldn't assume they're skates on a windup - based on what we see from some of the nuts we have on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 It feels great to lose a game and still be top of the league and 8 points above 3rd place! It definitely takes the sting out of defeat. I can see the cracks too but we are in a much, much better place than ANYONE on here ever expected us to be. It does, until the gap slowly starts to reduce! We need favors from teams to keep that 8pt gap, otherwise it's down to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Solent didnt read out all my text re message boards Ask them to say can you get Pompey to sign alpine saint after all they claim to have and want the best fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Trying to look for some positives, can't think of many though. Only good thing is that West Ham lost at home. But we can't keep relying on other results to go our way when we're on the road. 3 homes games and 1 away game at Pompey before the transfer window. Hopefully we can retain this position and strengthen next month. Maynard is the sort of player we need Imo. I don't see the problem putting some money into the transfer, we didn't spend much in the summer and reaching the Premier League is worth a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Must be wind up calls, NA is clearly well ahead of his target of 17th (probably ?) I guess you're the sort of person who finds stuff like "Computer says no" and "I don't like it" funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 The verve and swagger is fading and we have injuries to crucial players, while others are half-fit or off form (Lallana). Concentration lapses indicate that the focus is off and the warning signs were all there in the second half at Coventry, albeit disguised by the eventual win. Sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 (edited) We did not have a natural stricker on the pitch till Barnard came on and he is finding his way back to match fitness. Edited 3 December, 2011 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Bring back Forte. Another comedy genius on Solent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Jutkiewicz and Maynard have only scored as many as Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Bring back Forte. Another comedy genius on Solent! Prob is with maynard who have we as a target man if rl not fit? So we need a quick big centre forward! I rodriguez quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffnut Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 It was the players who let the manager down again today, but he has to sort out this poor away form. Lost to Bristol City who were the better side (3rd from bottom), lost to Doncaster who were the better side (bottom). The manager says we don't get carried away when we win or lose. I am not sure that the fans agree. We are still top but have given hope to the chasing pack, surely that is our bad patch for the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Rubbish, I am now concerned about the Skate away game that can Saints do anything at Skatesville or will they collapse again. I hope not. Saints just not good enough away, maybe our luck has run out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 My concern is the lack of chances we are making compared to early on this season and this has actually been the trend over the last 4 games, Lambert got a great goal against Brighton but we toiled hard till that point and then the sending off helped. We struggled a bit against Hull but pulled of a good 2-1 when not playing at our best and the Bristol Doncaster games have been dire. The only good thing to come out of this is winning 2 out of 4 when playing poorly. So we need to get over this dip in form quick and get back to the early season style quick or it could be a long hard winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Everyone saying we should have must sign a striker - fair enough, but does everyone seem to forget we tried? But the deals were not right. Are we forgetting a few things? Most of us (well the sensible ones) remember and agree with taht we should maintain a stable and realistic financial base, have a model wage structure and NOT do what some other clubs are doing and blue way too much cash trying to buy our way out... we can see clearly where that leads - I suspect we had a budget, nige and NC could not get of our targets to agree those terms which is why we did not sign a striker. Come January, given the platform we have established, it might be a little more expensive for the transfer fee, but the players may settle on a lesser deal with the promise of potential promotion... we'll see. But whilst it is dissapointing to lose two consecutive away and to two lower placed clubs, no excuses, etc, BUT we have seen that this is a tough league and its not just us that slip up now we get into the tough winter months - loads of ups and downs to come, biut for now I look at the table - after 20 I would have been happy pushing for the play off place. Sitting top, even with a dip and terrible away form suggests its far from bad. Sure loads of work to do, but are we surprized that the balance of side the quality has suffered without Lambo, Chappers and Adam not firing on all cylinders? Come on, give the guys a bit of slack. As a side they are sitting top of the pile - forget home form away form and look at the stats: played 20, won 13, draw 3, lost 4 = 65% win rate... which is pretty incredible. Sure if we want auto promotion, we can not afford to simply accept this, but we also dont need to panic - its not like we dont know what is needed... our key players fit and back in and a coupple of signings to inject some freshness and spark back into a side that has out performed our expectations so far, but as can happen, is maybe so reliant on teh core, that wiothout it we struggle a little - fresh meat etc should sort that for the second half of the season, but now its abbout keeping the faith, getting behind the lads and getting them through this tough patch without Lambo and Chappers. Be disaapointed yes, but dont lose belief, and dont panic. NIge knows what's needed and I am confident he and NC will sort it in Jan. COYRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Solent didnt read out all my text re message boards Ask them to say can you get Pompey to sign alpine saint after all they claim to have and want the best fans Obsessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Ricke Hopefully fine for next week end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Poor interview by Adkins I must say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Not obsessed you miserable **** Just wish you would **** off and support the skates as you are no saints fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Nigel sounded quite down on the interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Everyone saying we should have must sign a striker - fair enough' date=' but does everyone seem to forget we tried? But the deals were not right. Are we forgetting a few things? Most of us (well the sensible ones) remember and agree with taht we should maintain a stable and realistic financial base, have a model wage structure and NOT do what some other clubs are doing and blue way too much cash trying to buy our way out... we can see clearly where that leads - I suspect we had a budget, nige and NC could not get of our targets to agree those terms which is why we did not sign a striker. Come January, given the platform we have established, it might be a little more expensive for the transfer fee, but the players may settle on a lesser deal with the promise of potential promotion... we'll see. But whilst it is dissapointing to lose two consecutive away and to two lower placed clubs, no excuses, etc, BUT we have seen that this is a tough league and its not just us that slip up now we get into the tough winter months - loads of ups and downs to come, biut for now I look at the table - after 20 I would have been happy pushing for the play off place. Sitting top, even with a dip and terrible away form suggests its far from bad. Sure loads of work to do, but are we surprized that the balance of side the quality has suffered without Lambo, Chappers and [b']Adam not firing on all [/b]cylinders? Come on, give the guys a bit of slack. As a side they are sitting top of the pile - forget home form away form and look at the stats: played 20, won 13, draw 3, lost 4 = 65% win rate... which is pretty incredible. Sure if we want auto promotion, we can not afford to simply accept this, but we also dont need to panic - its not like we dont know what is needed... our key players fit and back in and a coupple of signings to inject some freshness and spark back into a side that has out performed our expectations so far, but as can happen, is maybe so reliant on teh core, that wiothout it we struggle a little - fresh meat etc should sort that for the second half of the season, but now its abbout keeping the faith, getting behind the lads and getting them through this tough patch without Lambo and Chappers. Be disaapointed yes, but dont lose belief, and dont panic. NIge knows what's needed and I am confident he and NC will sort it in Jan. COYRS this is problem numèro uno. He's there to create, he doesn't so the others have to do that as well. Needs dropping, trouble is we don't have anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 We did not have a natural stricker on the pitch till Barnard came on and he finding his way back to match fitness. This is it! We bossed possession 54% to 46% we had 6 attempts they had 10, it should be the other way round with the possession we had.We are low on quality in the Final third, Adam and Guly playing behind Lambert and a New Striker would give any side big problems.To be fair with Chappers injured, Adam carrying an injury and Lambert out we will struggle against anybody in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 This is our seasons low point! the only way from here is up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Everyone moans at guly but he scores goals and the person who isnt up to it is lallana. Lambert is a better player than lallana for me. The game is about end product, thats what le tiss had and rickie has it to a certain degree. Not just scoring goals but making goals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Marsden = Genius Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 The people who text into solent are such a bunch of clueless ****s, its so cringeworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Nigel sounded quite down on the interview What do you expect, a second successive away defeat against a poor'ish side (who did have some excellent individuals on loan mind you).No doubt Nigel has problems because some of his key players just aren't performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Lulling Pompey into a false sense of security with some poor away form....a shrewd move by Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Not obsessed you miserable **** Just wish you would **** off and support the skates as you are no saints fan Who are you to judge ? Personally, I think real fans can see the warts of their team, and dont toe the happy-clappy line irrespective of what is happening. Today was utterly unacceptable. F**king deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Like I said... we need to freshen things up a bit... this is not a criticism of the squad as i think they have played as a TEAM above their level and done us proud, but we need to ensure we have a little more depth, quality and pace for the second half of the season. The fact we are top has provided us with teh opportiunity to be more attractive to some of the better quality available. We will get through this IF we dont panic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Lulling Pompey into a false sense of security with some poor away form....a shrewd move by Adkins. Yeah great move, throwing away 6 points for sake of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Yeah great move, throwing away 6 points for sake of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 December, 2011 Share Posted 3 December, 2011 Everyone saying we should have must sign a striker - fair enough, but does everyone seem to forget we tried? But the deals were not right. Are we forgetting a few things? Most of us (well the sensible ones) remember and agree with taht we should maintain a stable and realistic financial base, have a model wage structure and NOT do what some other clubs are doing and blue way too much cash trying to buy our way out... we can see clearly where that leads - I suspect we had a budget, nige and NC could not get of our targets to agree those terms which is why we did not sign a striker. Come January, given the platform we have established, it might be a little more expensive for the transfer fee, but the players may settle on a lesser deal with the promise of potential promotion... we'll see. But whilst it is dissapointing to lose two consecutive away and to two lower placed clubs, no excuses, etc, BUT we have seen that this is a tough league and its not just us that slip up now we get into the tough winter months - loads of ups and downs to come, biut for now I look at the table - after 20 I would have been happy pushing for the play off place. Sitting top, even with a dip and terrible away form suggests its far from bad. Sure loads of work to do, but are we surprized that the balance of side the quality has suffered without Lambo, Chappers and Adam not firing on all cylinders? Come on, give the guys a bit of slack. As a side they are sitting top of the pile - forget home form away form and look at the stats: played 20, won 13, draw 3, lost 4 = 65% win rate... which is pretty incredible. Sure if we want auto promotion, we can not afford to simply accept this, but we also dont need to panic - its not like we dont know what is needed... our key players fit and back in and a coupple of signings to inject some freshness and spark back into a side that has out performed our expectations so far, but as can happen, is maybe so reliant on teh core, that wiothout it we struggle a little - fresh meat etc should sort that for the second half of the season, but now its abbout keeping the faith, getting behind the lads and getting them through this tough patch without Lambo and Chappers. Be disaapointed yes, but dont lose belief, and dont panic. NIge knows what's needed and I am confident he and NC will sort it in Jan. COYRS Excellent well balanced post. t was obvious over the summer that we were not prepared to invest in a few extra quid for the sake of promotion to the Premiership. I think this principle is well worth standing up for and will send a clear message to the football world, that we are not prepared to put ambition before prudence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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