Saints vs Royal Engineers - Second Half and Post Match Thread

[Guided Missile]

Play was resumed amid great excitement, it being the general opinion that the team which scored the first goal would prove the victors. Sides were changed and soon after the start "hands'' was given against the Engineers. The military representatives set the ball merrily rolling in the direction of their opponents quarters, and obtained a corner, but Carter effectively prevented anything being gained from this advantage Farwell and Delamotte removed the source of danger by means of a good run, and the soldiers' goal-keeper was put on the alert, a well-intentioned effort on the part of Nicholls not being successful. Much amusement was caused among the spectators by the manner in which" Banquo '— the familiar appellation of Stride— shadowed Corporal Smith. The leather having been hunted into the quarters of the Saints, hands were twice, in quick succession, given against the defenders, but Ruffell, with his fists, prevented an entrance. Some exciting play was then witnessed, resulting in an invasion of the military quarters, and Farwell and Delamotte each made excellent attempts for a goal, but they were unsuccessful, through the ball striking the cross-bar. The battle waged in the territory of the military amid the greatest excitement, some smart passing being witnessed on the part of the Saints' forwards, and Delamotte again shot, but failed.

 

It was now seen that both sides were showing their best form, the play being of a superior kind. The Saints again got possession, but their chance was spoiled by one of the Engineers handling the ball Lieutenant Bourne next took the ball across the central line, and being well backed up, shot for goal, but missed. The Saints now seemed to be on their mettle and Kiddle and Bromley showed exceedingly good passing play, which carried the ball into the Engineers' quarters, and Farwell, having a shot for goal, went just outside. The Saints' forwards played in a very brilliant style, and shot after shot was sent in but repelled by Hamer in a sledge-hammer fashion. Lieut. Bourne again changed the venue, and made a good kick for goal, but this was neatly saved by Ruffell. For a little while the battle waged in the vicinity of the Saints quarters, and a goal was nearly kicked, but saved, in a remarkable manner, by Ruffell. By means of some smart passing play on the part of the civilians forwards the attack was transferred to the other end ot the field. Parwell put in a shot, which was returned by the goal-keeper, but Bromley quickly placed it between the posts amid great cheering, and in a very short time almost accomplished another goal with a good try. Nicholls neatly passed to Kiddle, and, the goal-keeper rushing out. Kiddle obtained the third goal easily, the spectators " making the welkin ring with cheers."

 

After this, only a few minutes were left to the call of time, and the soldiers seemed thoroughly dispirited Nothing noteworthy happened till tbe call of time, which left the Saints victorious, and the winners of the Senior Cup by three goals to one — a result that even their most sanguine supporters could scarcely have dreamed of as possible. It was gratifying throughout the match — especially after the selfish play on the previous Saturday, to which we felt compelled to call attention— to notice the improvement in the passing of the Saints' forwards, and this particularly applies to Farwell and Kiddle. The Saints and Royal Engineers have played two friendly matches during the season— one on the Antelope Ground, resulting in a victory for the Saints by four goals to three : while in the return match, at Aldershot, when the Saints only had a mixed team, the Engineers were victorious by five goals to one.

 

Teams :—

 

St. Marys - R. Ruffel, goal; G. Carter(captain) and G. Marshall, backs: C. Deacon, W. Stride and G. Verney, half-backs; R.S. Kiddle and F.C. Bromley (right-wing), E. Nicholls (centre), A. Farwell and F.A. Delamotte (left-wing), forwards.

 

Royal Engineers (Aldershot) - Sapper R. Hammettt, goal; Corporal F.C. Kilburn and Sapper D. B. Hamer, backs; Lieutenant G.H. Versturme, Second-Corporal J. White, and Sapper E.A. Jones, half-backs; Lieutentant P.T. Bourne and A.N. Other (right-wing); Driver A. Gray (centre), Corporal R.S. Smith and Sapper J. Elson (left-wing), forwards,

 

The umpires were Mr. Masterman (of Bournemouth) and Lieutenant Whitmarsh (of the Royal Marine Light Infantry), while Mr. E.Q.Duchesne (of Bournemouth) was referee.

 

The cup was handed over to the captain of the winning team, outside the pavilion, by Miss Woodford St Arabin, who wore a silk neckerchief of the colours of the Saints, and who also presented each member of the team with a medal. "After the cup and medals had been handed over" Mr Carter, addressing the delighted throng present, stated that when the team came on the ground that afternoon, they hardly expected to take the cup. They had had a hard fight, and no mean opponnents, but they had won fairly and squarely . He thanked Miss Arabin for presenting the cup. and called for cheers for that lady and the Royal Engineers, which were heartily given. Subsequently the vanquished team were entertained at Gidden's Restaurant, 104, High Street the chair being occupied by the president, and there was a large attendance. The Challenge Cup was filled and passed round as a loving cup, and the usual compliments passed, the President remarking that the sum of £65 was taken at the gate, whioh was the record amount and he hoped next year the St. Mary's team would qualify to compete with the English Assocation. Mr. Carter, in responding to " Success to the Club," remarked that there had been no selfish play during the progress of the game that afternoon.

Edited 2 December, 2011 by Guided Missile

[hutch]

Think I'll wait for the "Just back from the game" thread

[70's Mike]

suppose you remember it like yesterday John

[Ampersound]

Interesting read. Thanks GM

[Guided Missile]

suppose you remember it like yesterday John

Easy, tiger....

[Window Cleaner]

Think I'll wait for the "Just back from the game" thread

 

And the MOTM poll, there'd still be votes though,I've noticed that there are a few who vote(usually for the same player every time) who were on the match thread all afternoon or evening. I suppose it could be OK if they posted afterwards having seen the Full 90 or something but no,they're there the instant the poll opens.

[John Boy Saint]

Good to see the fitness of The Saints paying off in the latter stages of the second half to put one over the Military men. Good to see Messrs Farwell & Kiddle getting last weeks nonsense out of their play.

Seems the Ref and his Umpires had a good game too and a jolly healthy crowd turning up to cheer on a fine afternoons football.

 

I reckon this St Marys side is on the brink of a marvellous footballing adventure, which will not be making Freemantle best pleased!

[suewhistle]

A great and robust English game which will never find favour amongst those Southern Europeans or the denizens of tropical climes.

[Kingsland Nick]

Lazy journo should've found out the name of RE's second right-winger.

[Panda]

I listened to that game on my crystal set. I remember big Dave M saying just before half time "What Saints don't want to do now is ..."

[Window Cleaner]

I listened to that game on my crystal set. I remember big Dave M saying just before half time "What Saints don't want to do now is ..."

 

Ahh crystal sets, I remember those places down Bevois Valley where you went to get all your diodes,resistors and variable potentiometers and stuff. Radio Luxembourg on 208 metres was about the only station I ever could find.

[chestersaint]

As an ex sapper myself, I just love this.

REgards to all. Ubique.

[hamster]

The Royal Engineers (Brompton, Gillingham, KENT) actually invented/devised what we now know as 'The Beautiful Game'. Prior to them kicking the ball to a team mate (passing) teams would belt the ball upfield and everyone would chase it. iirc the actual term used was 'played beautifully together as a team' but whatever it was they invented the style that we now know as the Southampton Style.

 

 

They won the FA Cup once/twice upon a time when those Old Etonians were the Man U of the leagues. I'm not sure where this Aldershot team come into the equaton as I was always led to believe that the Brompton regiment was and still is number one.

 

I actually used to play as a kid on their old sports field as it was at the back of our house, we used to 'let ourselves in' after a sports event and get squiffy on the dregs of people's glasses. Great times.

[Picard]

Are the goals on youtube yet?

[Panda]

Ahh crystal sets, I remember those places down Bevois Valley where you went to get all your diodes,resistors and variable potentiometers and stuff. Radio Luxembourg on 208 metres was about the only station I ever could find.

 

Yes, and Radio Luxembourg was there one minute and gone the next - it seemed to come in waves! I guess the shop in Bevois Valley was the forerunner of Maplin's?

[saintscottofthenortham]

The Royal Engineers (Brompton, Gillingham, KENT) actually invented/devised what we now know as 'The Beautiful Game'. Prior to them kicking the ball to a team mate (passing) teams would belt the ball upfield and everyone would chase it. iirc the actual term used was 'played beautifully together as a team' but whatever it was they invented the style that we now know as the Southampton Style.

 

They won the FA Cup once/twice upon a time when those Old Etonians were the Man U of the leagues. I'm not sure where this Aldershot team come into the equaton as I was always led to believe that the Brompton regiment was and still is number one.

 

I actually used to play as a kid on their old sports field as it was at the back of our house, we used to 'let ourselves in' after a sports event and get squiffy on the dregs of people's glasses. Great times.

 

At which time it was considered weak to defend. "Formations" were something like 1-1-8.

[Ohio Saint]

I just had a look at the Royal Engineers forum. What a bunch of mongs. They are still giving it large and saying we will run out of steam before Christmas.

[chestersaint]

The Royal Engineers (Brompton, Gillingham, KENT) actually invented/devised what we now know as 'The Beautiful Game'. Prior to them kicking the ball to a team mate (passing) teams would belt the ball upfield and everyone would chase it. iirc the actual term used was 'played beautifully together as a team' but whatever it was they invented the style that we now know as the Southampton Style.

 

 

They won the FA Cup once/twice upon a time when those Old Etonians were the Man U of the leagues. I'm not sure where this Aldershot team come into the equaton as I was always led to believe that the Brompton regiment was and still is number one.

 

I actually used to play as a kid on their old sports field as it was at the back of our house, we used to 'let ourselves in' after a sports event and get squiffy on the dregs of people's glasses. Great times.

 

Brompton Barracks - Chatham, Kent - is the home of the Corps of Royal Engineers. In that you are correct. However, over the years the Corps have trained elsewhere and everywhere including Aldershot to a large extent. Sappers by nature are everywhere hence the motto 'Ubique' (latin for 'everywhere') and subsequently train everywhere. Hope that helps.

[VectisSaint]

Are the goals on youtube yet?

No, but magic lantern slides will be shown at the Astoria.

[RonManager]

'3-1, we always win 3-1'

[Badger]

I'm not pretending to be ITK , but a gateman I know told me we might be relocating from the Antellope Ground.

 

He has been right before so I don't believe it is something he has made up.

[Wes Tender]

Whilst doing my grand tour recently, I passed through part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to visit an ancient city called Prague in Bohemia. It seems that they play football over there too and for some light relief, I went to watch a local match. They had a pretty decent and skillful player on the wing. I am led to understand that his name was Rudolf Scacel. I wonder whether he might be pursuaded to join our beloved St Mary's team? I do believe that his involvement could be mutually beneficial.

[Badger]

Whilst doing my grand tour recently, I passed through part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to visit an ancient city called Prague in Bohemia. It seems that they play football over there too and for some light relief, I went to watch a local match. They had a pretty decent and skillful player on the wing. I am led to understand that his name was Rudolf Scacel. I wonder whether he might be pursuaded to join our beloved St Mary's team? I do believe that his involvement could be mutually beneficial.

 

Sounds foreign. I think we should give him a wide berth if he is as it is most unlikely that they will ever get to grips with the intricacies of this game of ours.

[Window Cleaner]

Yes, and Radio Luxembourg was there one minute and gone the next - it seemed to come in waves! I guess the shop in Bevois Valley was the forerunner of Maplin's?

 

might have been Maplin's for all I remember,I was like 12.

[John Boy Saint]

Sounds foreign. I think we should give him a wide berth if he is as it is most unlikely that they will ever get to grips with the intricacies of this game of ours.

A sauce I know says we have an eye on this chap called Charles Miller Scottish Pa-pa and Brazilian Ma-ma. That sounds far more exotic and as foreign as we should allow, some have said he stands a far better chance of making a name for himself than this Rudolf chappie.

[Trader]

Ahh crystal sets, I remember those places down Bevois Valley where you went to get all your diodes,resistors and variable potentiometers and stuff. Radio Luxembourg on 208 metres was about the only station I ever could find.

 

Last time I looked that shop was still there, empty of course now and looking a bit run down - I don't think it's been open for about 30 years.

 

Talking of old shops, was anyone a customer of Whites Tobacconists in London Road - the old bloke in there used to sell all kinds of weird and wonderful stuff before smoking became non-PC, we used to buy those oval Turkish fags and Sobranie Black Russians - not to mention those multi-coloured Sobranie woofters ones. (err Not Guilty:lol:)

 

I notice that the place has still not been taken over by somebody else yet.

[The9]

I was of the understanding that said "passing game" was in fact how Scotsmen played, and it wasn't until that dashed Blackburn Rovers and their faux-amateur crowd of imported sporran wearers appeared on the scene that any Englishman would consider the crime of passing the ball to a teammate.