Mr saint Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Nominees are: Mark Cavendish Darren Clarke Alastair Cook Luke Donald Mo Farah Dai Greene Amir Khan Rory McIlroy Andy Murray Andrew Strauss I'd go for Cavandish or McIlroy I think. Even though I know next to nothing about cycling. Or golf.
SNSUN Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Rory McIlroy will win it. Andy Murray? He'll get it next year with Wimbledon in the bag.
Hatch Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Cavendish I reckon. Rory / Donald second. Cookie should be up there but all his work was done at the start of the year so forgotten by now.
Lighthouse Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Jenson Button has been immense this year, but isn't nominated. Don't really know much about the rest but I think Cavendish and McIlroy have to be the favourites. Murray needs a grand slam to be taken seriously.
SaintSparky Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Cavendish is the clear standout performer, it would be about fecking time for him too; however the problem is that the majority of pleboid voters in this country have no actual proper clue about sport and generally follow the press like the degenerate sheep that they mimic; so it'll probably be one of the two golfers.
saintwarwick Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Cavendish, Farah or Mcilroy for me, the top three anyway with Cavendish nicking it IMO. SaintSparky, the press follow Cavendish quite a bit as well as the golfers
swannymere Posted 28 November, 2011 Posted 28 November, 2011 Cavendish, Golf isn't a sport it's an excuse for middle-aged, middle management types to get ****ed with their buddies in a clubhouse wearing ridiculous trousers.
dubai_phil Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Darren Clarke. Showed that the beer swilling masses can still have their moments in the spotlight. His entire story, loss of his wife etc make him the stand out "Personality". Doesn't mean he is the outstanding Sportsperson, for consistency you have to look to Cavendish and of course Luke Donald who by Sunday evening could become the first person to win BOTH US & European Tour order of merit. Luke has kept grinding out solid consistent performances all year, Darren & Rory just had one magical weekend each, but the emotion of that win and the way he battled the elements.... But Darren is a true Gent - hell, he chatted my GF up then apologised and bought me a beer two years ago so would love to see him win.
badgerx16 Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish. ( It's a pity that HTC probably can't get a team award, as they have been far and away the best group of competitive cyclists ever put together. )
OVER THE HILL Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish the clear winner for me . The best sprinter in the world and HTC the best team. Also a big "personality " unlike some of the others on that list.
Nexstar Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish, McIlroy or Farah. What exactly has Andy Murray done to get there?
Durleyfos Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish, McIlroy or Farah. What exactly has Andy Murray done to get there? He nearly won a meaningful tournament.
OVER THE HILL Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish, McIlroy or Farah. What exactly has Andy Murray done to get there? Be Scottish.
mdearlove Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish or Farah for me - both would fully deserve it
Sherminator Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 For me: 1) Cavendish 2) Cook 3) Farah No footballer this year, so I'm not sure who will get the popular vote. Team of the year - England Cricket Team or maybe Red Bull F1?
Barry the Badger Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish, McIlroy or Farah. What exactly has Andy Murray done to get there? Come back and ask that again when you are the 4th best tennis player in the world.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Too many golfers on the short-list. Golf is not a sport it is a game of address for the best and a pastime for the others.
Hatch Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_personality/15936294.stm All the girls have started crying. Never heard of Keri Anne Payne either.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_personality/15936294.stm Never heard of Keri Anne Payne either. Long distance swimmer, my daughter knows her,think they were at Uni together in the US.
Winnersaint Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 The Manx Missile for me. First Brit to win the World Road Race Championship since Tommy Simpson in the 60's. The first Brit to win the points classification at the TdF. Another 5 stage wins at this year's TdF. The first Brit to win a TdF jersey since Robert Millar in 1984. His youthful arrogance seems to be mellowing. He is always quick to praise the contribution of the team to his successes HTC/British WC team etc. His achievements to date are up right up there.
The Cat Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 If Cavendish doesn't win this year it will be the biggest travesty since, well since he didn't win last year. The bloke is by far the best sportsman in the country. If he was French, Belgian, Italian or Spanish he'd be a God. To give it to Darren Clarke because he played well for 4 days and won one thing would be a joke. Cavendish has been consistently trouncing every cyclist on the flat for years and is World Champion. Give it a few years and he'll be the best sprinter of all time. Also anyone saying Darren Clarke wins on personality can't have heard Cavendish interviewed or been following him on twitter.
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 If Cavendish doesn't win this year it will be the biggest travesty since, well since he didn't win last year. The bloke is by far the best sportsman in the country. If he was French, Belgian, Italian or Spanish he'd be a God. To give it to Darren Clarke because he played well for 4 days and won one thing would be a joke. Cavendish has been consistently trouncing every cyclist on the flat for years and is World Champion. Give it a few years and he'll be the best sprinter of all time. Also anyone saying Darren Clarke wins on personality can't have heard Cavendish interviewed or been following him on twitter. Chris Boardman ???? Yellow jersey 3 occasions ? drat wrong post. See above winnersaint's post.
dubai_phil Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 If Cavendish doesn't win this year it will be the biggest travesty since, well since he didn't win last year. The bloke is by far the best sportsman in the country. If he was French, Belgian, Italian or Spanish he'd be a God. To give it to Darren Clarke because he played well for 4 days and won one thing would be a joke. Cavendish has been consistently trouncing every cyclist on the flat for years and is World Champion. Give it a few years and he'll be the best sprinter of all time. Also anyone saying Darren Clarke wins on personality can't have heard Cavendish interviewed or been following him on twitter.] Totally agree with that but it's the Beeb, as an eg Zara Philips ahead of the likes of Ricky Hatton in his prime? The list is endless. Thing is even my Mum (86) votes for this each year. Anyway, I'll be on the case next week, see if I can pull a funneh on this subject
ericofarabia Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Peter Story Teller for services to The Takeover fred?
saintwarwick Posted 29 November, 2011 Posted 29 November, 2011 Cavendish, McIlroy or Farah. What exactly has Andy Murray done to get there? Who would you nominate in his place? Not suggesting he will win it or deserves to win it but he is a pretty good tennis player and I'm sure you wouldn't mind being in his shoes given his titles and assets.
Winnersaint Posted 30 November, 2011 Posted 30 November, 2011 Chris Boardman ???? Yellow jersey 3 occasions ? drat wrong post. See above winnersaint's post. Chris Boardman did indeed wear the yellow jersey on a number of occasions 1994, 97 and 98. This was as a result of success in the prologue TT (he crashed out in 95). Boardman on his Lotus bike was a phenomenal rider. In 1994 his speed over the 7.2 km prologue course in Lille was in excess of 55kph, a record that still stands. Later in the team TT on Stage 3 he was simply too quick for the rest of his GAN team and it was this that saw him out of yellow. However, Cav was in green in Paris at the end of the TdF as was Millar in the polka dot.
Trader Posted 30 November, 2011 Posted 30 November, 2011 All these moaning women - Adlington is the only one I've heard of. How can you be 'Sports Personality of the Year' when most people don't know you from Adam? (or Eve)
dinger Posted 30 November, 2011 Posted 30 November, 2011 Who would you nominate in his place? Not suggesting he will win it or deserves to win it but he is a pretty good tennis player and I'm sure you wouldn't mind being in his shoes given his titles and assets. Rebecca Adlington? Jessica Ennis? People who've won stuff?
Minty Posted 30 November, 2011 Posted 30 November, 2011 How many people actually know enough about ALL the sports represented (and the ones on the periphery) to make a meaningful judgement? And even then, it depends on your interpretation of what makes a deserving 'Sports Personality'. IMO, the programme itself is often an interesting review of the British sporting year and celebrates our achievements. That in itself is good enough for me, who wins is a secondary element IMO.
Trader Posted 30 November, 2011 Posted 30 November, 2011 Rebecca Adlington? Jessica Ennis? People who've won stuff? She didn't win - not this year anyway. Murray won several tournaments this year - ATP 1000's. These are not junior events.
dinger Posted 30 November, 2011 Posted 30 November, 2011 She didn't win - not this year anyway. Murray won several tournaments this year - ATP 1000's. These are not junior events. You're quite right on both points. But in answer the the question I was (falteringly) answering, Rebecca Adlington is demonstrably the best at what she does and has the medals to prove it, whereas Andy Murray, good player though he must be, is not. TBH I'd love to see Alastair Cook win it as he's both excellent and completely devoid of personality.
revolution saint Posted 7 December, 2011 Posted 7 December, 2011 How many people actually know enough about ALL the sports represented (and the ones on the periphery) to make a meaningful judgement? And even then, it depends on your interpretation of what makes a deserving 'Sports Personality'. IMO, the programme itself is often an interesting review of the British sporting year and celebrates our achievements. That in itself is good enough for me, who wins is a secondary element IMO. Possibly true but since we've been restricted to a shortlist of who we can choose to vote for I've lost interest. I realise why that is and the reason for it but it also plays into the hands of populist sports. To be honest I'd probably vote if I had a genuine choice but I don't, and frankly the last ten years or so the programme hasn't even been that good so I doubt I'll bother watching.
dubai_phil Posted 11 December, 2011 Posted 11 December, 2011 OK a final input. Rory - OK he has Dengue Fever, but he was still a grumpy sod ALL week, him & his (blonde - I mean REALLY blonde) marketing man's dream came grumbled and went. Luke Donald - had to only beat Rory to become a golfing legend, not only did that but gave it a damned good shot at actually winning the tournament Then afterwards? Took the time between the press conferences to find anyone who worked with him this week, shake their hand (ain't gonna wash it for a month) and then didn't JUST go, he went to the bar and no, didn't just get some beers in but went and said - as much Moet as they want - they deserved it. What an Outstanding Gentleman. And I may hate him in the morning
krissyboy31 Posted 11 December, 2011 Posted 11 December, 2011 Think Donald has probably wrapped this up after this week. World No1 and first golfer to finish top of the money lists on both sides of the Atlantic. Didn't win a major like McIlroy and Clarke but won just about everything else.
The Cat Posted 11 December, 2011 Posted 11 December, 2011 Think Donald has probably wrapped this up after this week. World No1 and first golfer to finish top of the money lists on both sides of the Atlantic. Didn't win a major like McIlroy and Clarke but won just about everything else. Looking forward to seeing the media get all excited about Luke Donald's achievements. The same media which questioned the validity of Dinara Safina being World number 1 in women's tennis because she hadn't won a grand slam event. Startling similar scenarios if you ask me.
Chin Strain Posted 12 December, 2011 Posted 12 December, 2011 Cav....by a country mile should win..... .....but it won't, it will be Cook or Strauss who actually win.
Wade Garrett Posted 20 December, 2011 Posted 20 December, 2011 It should go to either Clarke, McIlroy or Donald. Clarke signed my programme after his first round at the Open so i'll go for him. I would like to point out that I am in no way biased towards golfers. Cavendish is an excellent sportsman and if there's any justice in the world he will come a credible fourth.
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Here are the very latest odds. Cavendish the hot favourite. Cavendish 1/3 Clarke 5/1 Farah 12/1 Donald 16/1 McIlroy 16/1 Cook 16/1 Greene, Strauss 200/1 Khan, Murray 250/1 Another annoying night when Iplayer doesn't work overseas and it won't be on local Sat telly
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Woo hoo found a live stream http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/24530/1/bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year--2011.html
bridge too far Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Just voted for Mo Farah. The absolute dedication and commitment shown by that man is amazing. He won't even be spending Christmas with his family because he's off to train somewhere in Africa. And he doesn't earn anywhere near the money that some of the others do. What an inspiration!
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Agree with you BTF. BUt anyone watching the clip with Darren and understanding the term "Personality", hell even future Mrs D_P had a tear in her eye
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Oh & I just want to point out that my Avatar (wot I took with my point & shoot) was FAR superior to the pic the Beeb had while they talked to Luuuuuuuuuuuuke. Liked the Light Sabre gag tho
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Well done to cav Oh. and best damned stream I've ever watched
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 he was genuinely overwhelmed by winning...fair play
Hatch Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 the right winner. Although this award means nothing now since Giggs won it the other year. It's now tainted.
CB Saint Posted 22 December, 2011 Posted 22 December, 2011 Right winner, thought Luke should have got something tho
The Cat Posted 23 December, 2011 Posted 23 December, 2011 British public in choosing the right winner for once shock. The programme really is a complete pile of arse now though. The BBC wasted far too much time wasted banging on about the phone numbers and shoving their collective penis up Redgrave's arse again.
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