supersonic Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Jordan sibley on twitter: Gaffer confirms paper rumours regarding Jutkiewicz interest are well wide of the mark. Not expecting any loan movements today #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Ah well - it did seem a bit rushed and surely if we'd have wanted him we could/would have got him over the summer. Roll on JRod or Maynard in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Jordan sibley on twitter: Gaffer confirms paper rumours regarding Jutkiewicz interest are well wide of the mark. Not expecting any loan movements today #saintsfc Huh, what does he know?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Close thread! No loans coming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Not particularly disappointed. Probs working on deals for january. Not As if we are desperate for a striker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Good, can we stop all the hysterical misinformed bollix now? Some people on here need to be sectioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Good decision. Just because a striker with Southampton connections is touted as being available is no reason for SFC to go into the loan market. We have Guly well able to play at striker and to provide cover if RL were to be injured. Connolly is said to need only 2 or 3 weeks to be back in the side and Barnard looked sharp when he came on against Brighton. If that isn't enough, Ryan Doble must be worth a place or he wouldn't be in the squad. What we do need in Jan is a striker with Prem league promise, probably to replace Connolly next season, even if DC stays on as cover for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 I've felt that we need a back-up for Ricky Lambert (in the event of .....) and have said so many times since January. I'm glad that we finish every game without serious injuries but I am surprised that NA hasn't signed sufficient back-up. it would be catastrophic if " something went wrong " and we lost the advantage we have built-up so far this season. Of course, no-one expects players to get injured, but sh*t happens and neither Barnard or Connolly have the stature or the style of play to replace RL (if necessary). Forte (apart from being on loan) is a non-starter in this debate and Doble doesn't even get a regular run-out in the so-called U21 and hasn't had a proper debut yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Cortese's strategy seems to be to buy players who could play in the league above. Hence the signings of Lambert, Fonte, Chaplow, Fox, Guly etc. I don't see the point in loaning the Coventry forward and then buying him in January. We have cover in the forward positions, he isn't better than our first choices, and I'm not sure he could play Premier League. Much better to wait until January. If we keep playing the way we are, we will be serious promotion candidates and Nigel would be in a position to sign better players than the loans that are being talked about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 I've felt that we need a back-up for Ricky Lambert (in the event of .....) and have said so many times since January. I'm glad that we finish every game without serious injuries but I am surprised that NA hasn't signed sufficient back-up. it would be catastrophic if " something went wrong " and we lost the advantage we have built-up so far this season. Of course, no-one expects players to get injured, but sh*t happens and neither Barnard or Connolly have the stature or the style of play to replace RL (if necessary). Forte (apart from being on loan) is a non-starter in this debate and Doble doesn't even get a regular run-out in the so-called U21 and hasn't had a proper debut yet. I thought Barney looked quite sharp against Brighton, Connolly is a class act, Guly could play up front on his own, or Steve De Ridder could play up front. If Ricky got injured we may have to change our tactics a bit, but that's what all good sides do. We have good players that will create lots of chances for whoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 http://twitter.com/#!/solentsport Nigel Adkins has told Solent that there will be no players in or out of the club today on the last day of the loan window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 I see Beattie's found a club for a few months then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 People keep mentioning Ryan Doble as a striking option, he has had various loans but has done little that would make one think he could step up from that level to the top of the Championship. He is hardly a regular goalscorer at any level yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 I thought Barney looked quite sharp against Brighton, Connolly is a class act, Guly could play up front on his own, or Steve De Ridder could play up front. If Ricky got injured we may have to change our tactics a bit, but that's what all good sides do. We have good players that will create lots of chances for whoever. I'm not sure we'd even have to change our tactics much. Guly can do a lot of the things Ricky can in terms of holding the ball up, making a nuisance of himself and getting on the of crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 People keep mentioning Ryan Doble as a striking option, he has had various loans but has done little that would make one think he could step up from that level to the top of the Championship. He is hardly a regular goalscorer at any level yet. Indeed, despite looking very good in that tournament in pre-season he hasn't impressed out on loan. Still think he will turn out decent though, reminds me a lot of Andy Keogh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 So who do you want as back up? I hear spurs are looking to off load Defoe........... good enough for you? or Owen, maybe BT how good does a 5th choice striker have to be? He has to be worse than the first choice striker we should always be looking to bring in that makes him 5th choice not 4th. Who are these people who think teams sign players for backup ? EVERY signing should be a player who at least has the potential to improve the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Lots of speculation...nothing in reality. Looks like we are going to ride our luck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 What a surprise the Daily Echo has totally messed up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 When did they say we were going to sign someone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 Lots of speculation...nothing in reality. Looks like we are going to ride our luck again. Admit you're wrong you boring clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 He has to be worse than the first choice striker we should always be looking to bring in that makes him 5th choice not 4th. Who are these people who think teams sign players for backup ? EVERY signing should be a player who at least has the potential to improve the first team. I have to agree The9 - why sign players for almost the sake of it, no one else does! Better to switch and adapt with players you know than bring men in 'just in case'! I accept sh1t happens and I agree I pay a premium to insure my house in case it does but that is because I am dependant on it. If I had two or more houses I might feel less inclined to do so. Even losing Rickie for a period of time would not necessarily prejudice our position. That was said Adam but he missed three games and no one really noticed. By the close of the 'window' at the end of January, two months away and what, 10 league games to play, we will be looking for Premier quality players not Championship bench sitters. Why buy an 'also ran' as back up now and have them on the books for three years or so, a bit like our old friends AP and TF? Not money wisely spent I would have thought and NC knows how to spend money wisely! In NC and NA I trust - but obviously many of the rest of you don't! Just an opinion of course, no doubt I will be slaughtered for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 November, 2011 Share Posted 24 November, 2011 I have to agree The9 - why sign players for almost the sake of it, no one else does! Better to switch and adapt with players you know than bring men in 'just in case'! I accept sh1t happens and I agree I pay a premium to insure my house in case it does but that is because I am dependant on it. If I had two or more houses I might feel less inclined to do so. Even losing Rickie for a period of time would not necessarily prejudice our position. That was said Adam but he missed three games and no one really noticed. By the close of the 'window' at the end of January, two months away and what, 10 league games to play, we will be looking for Premier quality players not Championship bench sitters. Why buy an 'also ran' as back up now and have them on the books for three years or so, a bit like our old friends AP and TF? Not money wisely spent I would have thought and NC knows how to spend money wisely! In NC and NA I trust - but obviously many of the rest of you don't! Just an opinion of course, no doubt I will be slaughtered for it. No I agree. We had the same last season people wanting to sign back up players for the back up players............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 November, 2011 Share Posted 25 November, 2011 No I agree. We had the same last season people wanting to sign back up players for the back up players............ The Burley school of management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 November, 2011 Share Posted 25 November, 2011 I have to agree The9 - why sign players for almost the sake of it, no one else does! Better to switch and adapt with players you know than bring men in 'just in case'! I accept sh1t happens and I agree I pay a premium to insure my house in case it does but that is because I am dependant on it. If I had two or more houses I might feel less inclined to do so. Even losing Rickie for a period of time would not necessarily prejudice our position. That was said Adam but he missed three games and no one really noticed. By the close of the 'window' at the end of January, two months away and what, 10 league games to play, we will be looking for Premier quality players not Championship bench sitters. Why buy an 'also ran' as back up now and have them on the books for three years or so, a bit like our old friends AP and TF? Not money wisely spent I would have thought and NC knows how to spend money wisely! In NC and NA I trust - but obviously many of the rest of you don't! Just an opinion of course, no doubt I will be slaughtered for it. Actually it's 18 matches left to play from February, which makes a bit of difference about injuries and cover, but I completely agree with you agreeing with me (obviously) about buying Prem quality players to improve the squad - or at least those with the potential to be. When you look at the players we've been linked to, they're all Championship players, mostly under 25 with a bit of form already. Maynard, Jutkiewicz, Rodriguez could all POTENTIALLY be top level players, based on what they've done so far - but there's also a case for bringing in the 25-29s who have that experience, if we can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 November, 2011 Share Posted 25 November, 2011 The Burley school of management. Didn't he bring in Hammill and Guthrie on loan, who are both now fairly regular Prem players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 November, 2011 Share Posted 25 November, 2011 Didn't he bring in Hammill and Guthrie on loan, who are both now fairly regular Prem players ? Yes, Guthrie was a good signing to be fair. Hammill whilst he was with us appeared unmanagable, not sure if that was GB's fault or not. My reference to GB though was his tendency to stockpile average midfield players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 25 November, 2011 Share Posted 25 November, 2011 Lots of speculation...nothing in reality. Looks like we are going to ride our luck again. Well we're riding it pretty well at the moment aren't we...? Maybe we should get a new Manager in as well just in case Adkins *ironically* gets hit by a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 November, 2011 Share Posted 26 November, 2011 Even losing Rickie for a period of time would not necessarily prejudice our position. That was said Adam but he missed three games and no one really noticed. Thankfully, we haven't had to play without Lambert, but I wouldn't like to have to re-structure the strike force without him at this satge... If you think we didn't miss Adam Lallana you've forgotten the previous periods without him. AL was out three times last season. First after Pardew's dismissal for 5 games and we didn't win a single one ! then later on for 4 games when we drew 0-0 home to Notts County, lost 0-2 at Tranmere, only managed a late 2-1 win at Exeter and that ridiculous 4-4 draw at Pete'boro. his third period of absence saw us losing 0-2 at Rochdale and that embarrasing game where we only managed a 1-0 win v. Bristol Rovers at SMS. He's the most creative player we've had for a decade, we'd have real trouble without either of them for any period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 November, 2011 Share Posted 26 November, 2011 Yes, Guthrie was a good signing to be fair. Hammill whilst he was with us appeared unmanagable, not sure if that was GB's fault or not. My reference to GB though was his tendency to stockpile average midfield players. to be fair, both of them were fairly young and inexperienced when they were here (on loan) and have developed a bit more since. but I don't believe that either of them would significantly improve our midfield. Our present quartet have knotched up over 500 games between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 26 November, 2011 Share Posted 26 November, 2011 Admit you're wrong you boring clown. OK I am wrong. Wow look at all the loans and signings we have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 November, 2011 Share Posted 26 November, 2011 OK I am wrong. Wow look at all the loans and signings we have made. So, we are 5 points clear with a fit team and a decent enough back up!! The new window opens in a month, your sentiments are totally wrong and it is getting boring now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 26 November, 2011 Share Posted 26 November, 2011 Thankfully, we haven't had to play without Lambert, but I wouldn't like to have to re-structure the strike force without him at this satge... If you think we didn't miss Adam Lallana you've forgotten the previous periods without him. AL was out three times last season. First after Pardew's dismissal for 5 games and we didn't win a single one ! then later on for 4 games when we drew 0-0 home to Notts County, lost 0-2 at Tranmere, only managed a late 2-1 win at Exeter and that ridiculous 4-4 draw at Pete'boro. his third period of absence saw us losing 0-2 at Rochdale and that embarrasing game where we only managed a 1-0 win v. Bristol Rovers at SMS. He's the most creative player we've had for a decade, we'd have real trouble without either of them for any period of time. Sorry David but you have twisted what I said. I was not saying Adam Lallana is not a very talented player and a vital member of our team - I would have to be mad to say that. Forget last season, things have changed a lot since then. Adam missed three games recently and by using the known resources we had and using them effectively we maintained the results and performances. This shows the depth of the squad, its versatility and its ability. I still maintain that to loan with a view to buy a reserve striker (JL from Coventry) now in case Rickie gets injured in the next four or five games is false economy. If, and I sincerely hope he doesn't of course, we lose Rickie for a while I am sure we can cope. Come the beginning of January the windows opens and players are available again and if Rickie got injured then we can, if needed, get someone in. By the end of the transfer window, if Rickie does not get injured, and we are still where we are now and looking strong we will not be looking for a Championship reserve player to bloat the squad, we will be looking for someone with real talent and a future to come in and put Rickie under pressure to keep his place. With the small number of players on the bench these days do we need to pay players just to join in training? No, of course not. We are looking for the Jack Cork/Danny Fox type player; young, intelligent, skilful and committed not a 'bed blocker', they get paid for nothing and hamper development squad players coming through. No temporary loans needed, no loan with a view to buy needed, just hold on, wait for the end of January and then move if the right player(s) are available that fit with our future. You are verging on being a Dalek and obsessed with the need for retail therapy! See his "OK I am wrong. Wow look at all the loans and signings we have made." comment. How do you judge success? By the players you buy and loan signings you make or where you are in the league table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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