Is Wilde cracking under pressure

[OldNick]

I agree and you'll find that LS does carefully check what is being said, by all. Thanks for the concern, it pays to be careful, as they used to say during WWII - Careless talk costs lives.

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

[OldNick]

I agree and you'll find that LS does carefully check what is being said, by all. Thanks for the concern, it pays to be careful, as they used to say during WWII - Careless talk costs lives.

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

[Mole]

He's a "She"....?

 

Helpmerhonda?

[Mole]

He's a "She"....?

 

Helpmerhonda?

[OldNick]

Helpmerhonda?

I dont think so, but someone who posted very pro LM on the site before the £5 membership came in.

[OldNick]

Helpmerhonda?

I dont think so, but someone who posted very pro LM on the site before the £5 membership came in.

[Window Cleaner]

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

 

Still the 1250£ that Long Shot won at Doncaster should help with the damages eh!!

[Window Cleaner]

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

 

Still the 1250£ that Long Shot won at Doncaster should help with the damages eh!!

[Roman]

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

 

I sort of agree with you nick.

 

I really DON'T think LS should be outed - this is not scooby we're talking about, but someone who's passionate and serious about the club and has had a long association with the place. He certainly does have a lot of ammo, but as I say, these things can go from bullets to boomerangs easily.

[Roman]

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

 

I sort of agree with you nick.

 

I really DON'T think LS should be outed - this is not scooby we're talking about, but someone who's passionate and serious about the club and has had a long association with the place. He certainly does have a lot of ammo, but as I say, these things can go from bullets to boomerangs easily.

[TopGun]

If Wilde is willing to sell it is clear that his shares could form the springboard for somebody rich enough to buy them up and then go over the 30% mark thus being able to force a full takeover.

 

It seems the only way to resolve the situation but who is rich enough to buy the Wilde shares at an inflated price, hoover up the remaining 70% and take on the current debt of £8m overdraft and whatever is outstanding on the stadium?

[TopGun]

If Wilde is willing to sell it is clear that his shares could form the springboard for somebody rich enough to buy them up and then go over the 30% mark thus being able to force a full takeover.

 

It seems the only way to resolve the situation but who is rich enough to buy the Wilde shares at an inflated price, hoover up the remaining 70% and take on the current debt of £8m overdraft and whatever is outstanding on the stadium?

[Window Cleaner]

I sort of agree with you nick.

 

I really DON'T think LS should be outed - this is not scooby we're talking about, but someone who's passionate and serious about the club and has had a long association with the place. He certainly does have a lot of ammo, but as I say, these things can go from bullets to boomerangs easily.

 

Depends on the veracity of what's been posted.

If by any chance Mike Wilde's Jersey home isn't a hotel then someone is going to get hit by a ton of bricks, shortly, very shortly.

[Window Cleaner]

I sort of agree with you nick.

 

I really DON'T think LS should be outed - this is not scooby we're talking about, but someone who's passionate and serious about the club and has had a long association with the place. He certainly does have a lot of ammo, but as I say, these things can go from bullets to boomerangs easily.

 

Depends on the veracity of what's been posted.

If by any chance Mike Wilde's Jersey home isn't a hotel then someone is going to get hit by a ton of bricks, shortly, very shortly.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Have recieved a message from a well-placed source tonight who is not a member of this forum. She asked me to post the info onto here which I will do. It is probably true imo but I have not been able to double check it so I am not going to defend it. Take it as you wish, but like I say the source is very reliable.

 

Talk is Wilde wants out and is ready to sell - he has no "lock in" agreement with Lowe. His house in Jersey is now a hotel and his home in Burley is up for sale.

 

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

 

I have included the initial post on the thread because of your concern about where the information has come from, and to save us all getting too excited about LS doing something wrong. LS has made no allegations and is merely passing on a piece of information.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Have recieved a message from a well-placed source tonight who is not a member of this forum. She asked me to post the info onto here which I will do. It is probably true imo but I have not been able to double check it so I am not going to defend it. Take it as you wish, but like I say the source is very reliable.

 

Talk is Wilde wants out and is ready to sell - he has no "lock in" agreement with Lowe. His house in Jersey is now a hotel and his home in Burley is up for sale.

 

The club will be close to working out who she and her source is. There has been a lot about longshot and how she worked at the club for the media on here in the past few days and the time she did so. It would be best if this thread was wiped really quickly for all involved.

Or she doesnt care and so no harm done. But I suspect MR W will be keen to find out who this is

 

I have included the initial post on the thread because of your concern about where the information has come from, and to save us all getting too excited about LS doing something wrong. LS has made no allegations and is merely passing on a piece of information.

[bridge too far]

How many shares does MW hold?

 

I know, I know - it's posted with monotonous regularity but I can't be ar*ed to search and I'm sure one of you knows this like I know today's Saturday.

 

Oh .....

 

Seriously - any ideas guys?

[bridge too far]

How many shares does MW hold?

 

I know, I know - it's posted with monotonous regularity but I can't be ar*ed to search and I'm sure one of you knows this like I know today's Saturday.

 

Oh .....

 

Seriously - any ideas guys?

[Roman]

If Wilde is willing to sell it is clear that his shares could form the springboard for somebody rich enough to buy them up and then go over the 30% mark thus being able to force a full takeover.

 

It seems the only way to resolve the situation but who is rich enough to buy the Wilde shares at an inflated price, hoover up the remaining 70% and take on the current debt of £8m overdraft and whatever is outstanding on the stadium?

 

And on the face of it, that just isn't going to happen, especially with the club as close as it is to the cliff edge.

 

Will be interesting to see what the highly financially creative Salz can do to square the circle.

[Roman]

If Wilde is willing to sell it is clear that his shares could form the springboard for somebody rich enough to buy them up and then go over the 30% mark thus being able to force a full takeover.

 

It seems the only way to resolve the situation but who is rich enough to buy the Wilde shares at an inflated price, hoover up the remaining 70% and take on the current debt of £8m overdraft and whatever is outstanding on the stadium?

 

And on the face of it, that just isn't going to happen, especially with the club as close as it is to the cliff edge.

 

Will be interesting to see what the highly financially creative Salz can do to square the circle.

[Window Cleaner]

how many shares does mw hold?

 

I know, i know - it's posted with monotonous regularity but i can't be ar*ed to search and i'm sure one of you knows this like i know today's saturday.

 

Oh .....

 

Seriously - any ideas guys?

 

4,622,470

[Window Cleaner]

how many shares does mw hold?

 

I know, i know - it's posted with monotonous regularity but i can't be ar*ed to search and i'm sure one of you knows this like i know today's saturday.

 

Oh .....

 

Seriously - any ideas guys?

 

4,622,470

[Mole]

Depends on the veracity of what's been posted.

If by any chance Mike Wilde's Jersey home isn't a hotel then someone is going to get hit by a ton of bricks, shortly, very shortly.

 

Fawlty Towers?

 

Come to think of it i've not seen much of Javi lately.

 

[Mole]

Depends on the veracity of what's been posted.

If by any chance Mike Wilde's Jersey home isn't a hotel then someone is going to get hit by a ton of bricks, shortly, very shortly.

 

Fawlty Towers?

 

Come to think of it i've not seen much of Javi lately.

 

[OldNick]

I have included the initial post on the thread because of your concern about where the information has come from, and to save us all getting too excited about LS doing something wrong. LS has made no allegations and is merely passing on a piece of information.

ESB thats fine ,I dont wish for anyone connected on here to have aggro. Whilst LS has been given permission she is not really the person who would be effected but the original source who wanted it put out but perhaps not to be found out.

It all seems intrigue i know but if I was MW I would be very keen to find out where this info came from.

[OldNick]

I have included the initial post on the thread because of your concern about where the information has come from, and to save us all getting too excited about LS doing something wrong. LS has made no allegations and is merely passing on a piece of information.

ESB thats fine ,I dont wish for anyone connected on here to have aggro. Whilst LS has been given permission she is not really the person who would be effected but the original source who wanted it put out but perhaps not to be found out.

It all seems intrigue i know but if I was MW I would be very keen to find out where this info came from.

[Roman]

Depends on the veracity of what's been posted.

If by any chance Mike Wilde's Jersey home isn't a hotel then someone is going to get hit by a ton of bricks, shortly, very shortly.

 

Well, in this case there's a bit more to it than that, I think. But as I say, best to leave this one alone.

[Roman]

Depends on the veracity of what's been posted.

If by any chance Mike Wilde's Jersey home isn't a hotel then someone is going to get hit by a ton of bricks, shortly, very shortly.

 

Well, in this case there's a bit more to it than that, I think. But as I say, best to leave this one alone.

[bridge too far]

4,622,470

 

OK with shares at roughly 25p - who's got £1,155,620 to help the poor man out of his misery

[bridge too far]

4,622,470

 

OK with shares at roughly 25p - who's got £1,155,620 to help the poor man out of his misery

[Window Cleaner]

I have included the initial post on the thread because of your concern about where the information has come from, and to save us all getting too excited about LS doing something wrong. LS has made no allegations and is merely passing on a piece of information.

 

ESB you are not obviously a legal eagle, passing on incorrect information without a source quote is as good as saying it yourself.In the case of any defamation suit LS would be asked to name the person who asked him to post that. If that person said it wasn't of his doing the "poster" would probably suffer the full weight of the law. Otherwise it would be too easy to spout crap and pass it off as some-one else's doing.

 

Nick G is a legal man I think, I'm sure that he'll put us exactly straight on this later on.

 

Here's some stuff on defamation by qallegation and impliance or innuendo.

 

Allegations:

How often do we read reports of `alleged' conduct? `The company chairman, Mr Jacobs, allegedly offered the Mayor a kick- back'. Journalists seem to think this protects them. But that is not the case. Reporting material as `allegations' by other people is not a protection because ordinary readers, listeners and viewers presume there is some factual basis to the `allegation'.

Of course, it is different for crime and court stories. Reporting that a person has been charged with an offence (provided this is true) and reporting the `allegations' made in court, will not be seen as a statement that the accused committed the act. It is assumed everybody knows the law of the presumption of innocence.

 

Also, as we will see later in the section on defamation, to rely on the defamation defence of fair and accurate report of court proceedings, it may be necessary to describe evidence as `allegations' until a verdict is reached.

 

Inferences and innuendoes:

Remember, the general public is capable of reading between the lines. The fact that you don't actually say `the Premier is corrupt' does not mean that a publication cannot have precisely that defamatory meaning if the audience could reasonably draw that inference from published informationthe Sir Humphrey Rule at work!

Even if a defamatory meaning cannot be inferred from the publication itself, it may be conveyed because of background facts known to some people. For example, the statement: `Roberts visits 1 Smith Street' seems innocent enough in itself but would have the defamatory meaning that `Roberts visits prostitutes' to anyone who knows that 1 Smith Street is a brothel.

Edited 30 October, 2008 by Window Cleaner

[Window Cleaner]

I have included the initial post on the thread because of your concern about where the information has come from, and to save us all getting too excited about LS doing something wrong. LS has made no allegations and is merely passing on a piece of information.

 

ESB you are not obviously a legal eagle, passing on incorrect information without a source quote is as good as saying it yourself.In the case of any defamation suit LS would be asked to name the person who asked him to post that. If that person said it wasn't of his doing the "poster" would probably suffer the full weight of the law. Otherwise it would be too easy to spout crap and pass it off as some-one else's doing.

 

Nick G is a legal man I think, I'm sure that he'll put us exactly straight on this later on.

 

Here's some stuff on defamation by qallegation and impliance or innuendo.

 

Allegations:

How often do we read reports of `alleged' conduct? `The company chairman, Mr Jacobs, allegedly offered the Mayor a kick- back'. Journalists seem to think this protects them. But that is not the case. Reporting material as `allegations' by other people is not a protection because ordinary readers, listeners and viewers presume there is some factual basis to the `allegation'.

Of course, it is different for crime and court stories. Reporting that a person has been charged with an offence (provided this is true) and reporting the `allegations' made in court, will not be seen as a statement that the accused committed the act. It is assumed everybody knows the law of the presumption of innocence.

 

Also, as we will see later in the section on defamation, to rely on the defamation defence of fair and accurate report of court proceedings, it may be necessary to describe evidence as `allegations' until a verdict is reached.

 

Inferences and innuendoes:

Remember, the general public is capable of reading between the lines. The fact that you don't actually say `the Premier is corrupt' does not mean that a publication cannot have precisely that defamatory meaning if the audience could reasonably draw that inference from published informationthe Sir Humphrey Rule at work!

Even if a defamatory meaning cannot be inferred from the publication itself, it may be conveyed because of background facts known to some people. For example, the statement: `Roberts visits 1 Smith Street' seems innocent enough in itself but would have the defamatory meaning that `Roberts visits prostitutes' to anyone who knows that 1 Smith Street is a brothel.

Edited 30 October, 2008 by Window Cleaner

[TopGun]

OK with shares at roughly 25p - who's got £1,155,620 to help the poor man out of his misery

 

Bloody hell, you could buy the club outright for about £5m at those levels. £8m debt and so for £13m SFC can be yours with just the usual stadium mortgage to continue paying!

[TopGun]

OK with shares at roughly 25p - who's got £1,155,620 to help the poor man out of his misery

 

Bloody hell, you could buy the club outright for about £5m at those levels. £8m debt and so for £13m SFC can be yours with just the usual stadium mortgage to continue paying!

[dubai_phil]

OK with shares at roughly 25p - who's got £1,155,620 to help the poor man out of his misery

 

Why give it to him though? The CLUB needs it more.

 

I don't suppose in all of the political posturing anybody on here has actually spoken to any of the Directors to see if a takeover deal could be put together or if they actually will sell and at what price?

 

Or is it more fun to let the factions slip in snippets to continue to undermine the fan-base as they did with the previous train set owners?

[dubai_phil]

OK with shares at roughly 25p - who's got £1,155,620 to help the poor man out of his misery

 

Why give it to him though? The CLUB needs it more.

 

I don't suppose in all of the political posturing anybody on here has actually spoken to any of the Directors to see if a takeover deal could be put together or if they actually will sell and at what price?

 

Or is it more fun to let the factions slip in snippets to continue to undermine the fan-base as they did with the previous train set owners?

[Window Cleaner]

Bloody hell, you could buy the club outright for about £5m at those levels. £8m debt and so for £13m SFC can be yours with just the usual stadium mortgage to continue paying!

 

Don't count on it;

For 4 million plus shares the price would be roughly 35p per share, even now.

[Window Cleaner]

Bloody hell, you could buy the club outright for about £5m at those levels. £8m debt and so for £13m SFC can be yours with just the usual stadium mortgage to continue paying!

 

Don't count on it;

For 4 million plus shares the price would be roughly 35p per share, even now.

[bridge too far]

Don't count on it;

For 4 million plus shares the price would be roughly 35p per share, even now.

 

How so? If he's desperate to sell, then it's the buyer's call, surely?

 

The bid price is 25p and the offer price is 28p so the midprice is c. 25p ATM.

[bridge too far]

Don't count on it;

For 4 million plus shares the price would be roughly 35p per share, even now.

 

How so? If he's desperate to sell, then it's the buyer's call, surely?

 

The bid price is 25p and the offer price is 28p so the midprice is c. 25p ATM.

[Window Cleaner]

How so? If he's desperate to sell, then it's the buyer's call, surely?

 

The bid price is 25p and the offer price is 28p so the midprice is c. 25p ATM.

 

Nope, maybe he's not that desperate.

This is going to run and run, don't think I'll comment on it any more.

[Window Cleaner]

How so? If he's desperate to sell, then it's the buyer's call, surely?

 

The bid price is 25p and the offer price is 28p so the midprice is c. 25p ATM.

 

Nope, maybe he's not that desperate.

This is going to run and run, don't think I'll comment on it any more.

[SaintRobbie]

Have recieved a message from a well-placed source tonight who is not a member of this forum. She asked me to post the info onto here which I will do. It is probably true imo but I have not been able to double check it so I am not going to defend it. Take it as you wish, but like I say the source is very reliable.

 

Talk is Wilde wants out and is ready to sell - he has no "lock in" agreement with Lowe. His house in Jersey is now a hotel and his home in Burley is up for sale.

 

I WANT WILDE - WHO READS THIS - TO TELL THE WORLD NOW SAINTS ARE FOR SALE.

 

Do it Mike - stop this utter foolishness and lets ALL club together to put a strategy together (without Lowe) to sell this Club.

 

We can do this. We need some greats like MLT, Lawrie Mac, fans representatives and the City Council to get together with Wilde and make a very public announcement that the Club is for sale.

 

Then we accept Lowe's crap plan is a failure and everyone does what we can to SELL this club as publically as possible.

 

If we are not taken over by January we are no longer heading for League 1 IMHO... we WILL head down to League 2 with our empty ground and VERY LITTLE PRIDE LEFT.

 

Get off your arses Illingworth et al. Start doing something constructive - START PUTTING WILDE AND THE COUNCIL UNDER PRESSURE TO SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CLUB.

[SaintRobbie]

Have recieved a message from a well-placed source tonight who is not a member of this forum. She asked me to post the info onto here which I will do. It is probably true imo but I have not been able to double check it so I am not going to defend it. Take it as you wish, but like I say the source is very reliable.

 

Talk is Wilde wants out and is ready to sell - he has no "lock in" agreement with Lowe. His house in Jersey is now a hotel and his home in Burley is up for sale.

 

I WANT WILDE - WHO READS THIS - TO TELL THE WORLD NOW SAINTS ARE FOR SALE.

 

Do it Mike - stop this utter foolishness and lets ALL club together to put a strategy together (without Lowe) to sell this Club.

 

We can do this. We need some greats like MLT, Lawrie Mac, fans representatives and the City Council to get together with Wilde and make a very public announcement that the Club is for sale.

 

Then we accept Lowe's crap plan is a failure and everyone does what we can to SELL this club as publically as possible.

 

If we are not taken over by January we are no longer heading for League 1 IMHO... we WILL head down to League 2 with our empty ground and VERY LITTLE PRIDE LEFT.

 

Get off your arses Illingworth et al. Start doing something constructive - START PUTTING WILDE AND THE COUNCIL UNDER PRESSURE TO SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CLUB.

[SaintRichmond]

Have recieved a message from a well-placed source tonight who is not a member of this forum. She asked me to post the info onto here which I will do. It is probably true imo but I have not been able to double check it so I am not going to defend it. Take it as you wish, but like I say the source is very reliable.

 

Talk is Wilde wants out and is ready to sell - he has no "lock in" agreement with Lowe. His house in Jersey is now a hotel and his home in Burley is up for sale.

 

 

 

Unfortunately (IMHO), if Wilde were to selol his shares ..... it would be to Lowe ............ just imagine the self gratifying smug grin on his face then....

[SaintRichmond]

Have recieved a message from a well-placed source tonight who is not a member of this forum. She asked me to post the info onto here which I will do. It is probably true imo but I have not been able to double check it so I am not going to defend it. Take it as you wish, but like I say the source is very reliable.

 

Talk is Wilde wants out and is ready to sell - he has no "lock in" agreement with Lowe. His house in Jersey is now a hotel and his home in Burley is up for sale.

 

 

 

Unfortunately (IMHO), if Wilde were to selol his shares ..... it would be to Lowe ............ just imagine the self gratifying smug grin on his face then....

[Window Cleaner]

I WANT WILDE - WHO READS THIS - TO TELL THE WORLD NOW SAINTS ARE FOR SALE.

 

Do it Mike - stop this utter foolishness and lets ALL club together to put a strategy together (without Lowe) to sell this Club.

 

We can do this. We need some greats like MLT, Lawrie Mac, fans representatives and the City Council to get together with Wilde and make a very public announcement that the Club is for sale.

 

Then we accept Lowe's crap plan is a failure and everyone does what we can to SELL this club as publically as possible.

 

If we are not taken over by January we are no longer heading for League 1 IMHO... we WILL head down to League 2 with our empty ground and VERY LITTLE PRIDE LEFT.

 

Get off your arses Illingworth et al. Start doing something constructive - START PUTTING WILDE AND THE COUNCIL UNDER PRESSURE TO SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CLUB.

 

 

Saint Robbie, if 30% or more of the shares of a PLC are for sale I think we'd be automatically placed in bid situation. So even if Wilde's shares are for sale it doesn't mean that the club is for sale.

[Window Cleaner]

I WANT WILDE - WHO READS THIS - TO TELL THE WORLD NOW SAINTS ARE FOR SALE.

 

Do it Mike - stop this utter foolishness and lets ALL club together to put a strategy together (without Lowe) to sell this Club.

 

We can do this. We need some greats like MLT, Lawrie Mac, fans representatives and the City Council to get together with Wilde and make a very public announcement that the Club is for sale.

 

Then we accept Lowe's crap plan is a failure and everyone does what we can to SELL this club as publically as possible.

 

If we are not taken over by January we are no longer heading for League 1 IMHO... we WILL head down to League 2 with our empty ground and VERY LITTLE PRIDE LEFT.

 

Get off your arses Illingworth et al. Start doing something constructive - START PUTTING WILDE AND THE COUNCIL UNDER PRESSURE TO SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CLUB.

 

 

Saint Robbie, if 30% or more of the shares of a PLC are for sale I think we'd be automatically placed in bid situation. So even if Wilde's shares are for sale it doesn't mean that the club is for sale.

[bridge too far]

Didn't the two MPs for Southampton get very involved not too long ago - when we previously had internal wranglings and soul searching?

 

Or is that wishful thinking on my part?

[OldNick]

I WANT WILDE - WHO READS THIS - TO TELL THE WORLD NOW SAINTS ARE FOR SALE.

 

Do it Mike - stop this utter foolishness and lets ALL club together to put a strategy together (without Lowe) to sell this Club.

 

We can do this. We need some greats like MLT, Lawrie Mac, fans representatives and the City Council to get together with Wilde and make a very public announcement that the Club is for sale.

 

Then we accept Lowe's crap plan is a failure and everyone does what we can to SELL this club as publically as possible.

 

If we are not taken over by January we are no longer heading for League 1 IMHO... we WILL head down to League 2 with our empty ground and VERY LITTLE PRIDE LEFT.

 

Get off your arses Illingworth et al. Start doing something constructive - START PUTTING WILDE AND THE COUNCIL UNDER PRESSURE TO SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CLUB.

 

It is widely known the club is for sale Seymour peirce have been telling all and sundry. The point is we are not very desirable at present. You and I might think we are fantastic but to businessmen who live in other countries SFC is a little provincial club.

Having NI and co publising it may even put people off