Painswick Saint Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 First was never a penalty Second was a bit iffy I thought the ref. failed to give a stone wall penalty against Rickie Lambert in the second half At the end of the day the best team won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Defo outside. As for the Hammond one. Was right inline with it in the itchen. Clear contact from the keeper on the man therefore a penalty in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Neither of the pens given should've been, however, there were two assaults on rickie and Guly was practically forearm smashed and body checked in the first half... So how about we give them the two dodgy pens back and claim the 3 legitimate ones.... 4-0 and rickie on 13 league goals for the season.... Oh and poyet is a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 1st pen was outside the box and the 2nd was debatable contact. I don't like seeing our players trying to con penalties. I thought we were better than that. Hammonds dive was ****ing embarrassing. Come on saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN MY DAY Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 I was in Woolston and that wasnt a penalty , but seeing 3 other decision not given and against Brighton. i'll take it. My only concern would be referee's watching the highlights would see we have played for 3 decisions and just mark our card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 1st pen was outside the box and the 2nd was debatable contact. I don't like seeing our players trying to con penalties. I thought we were better than that. Hammonds dive was ****ing embarrassing. Come on saints! No comment about the blatant shirt pull and the bodycheck on Lambert though 2 clear ones missed??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 (edited) Mr Walton did not cover himself with glory to say the least but i really don`t give a toss 3 points is 3 points Poor old gustavo,must be really ****ed off PMSL But in all fairness they never looked like scoring at all Edited 20 November, 2011 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 the handballs weren't, the shirt pull was a pen but difficult for the ref to give, the first pen was obviously outside, Hammond dived - it's embarassing when a side as good as ours needs to cheat by the way, the barge on Ricky was an obvious pen and should have been given, the pen given on Ricky wasn't, but I can see why Walton gave it (the tug on Rickie as he started his run will have helped his cause). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 The only beef I have with the Brighton fans is their lack of perspective on the whole game. Yes the first pen given was well outside the box & an awful decision, Rickie's 2nd is also questionable. but they seem to completely dismiss or forget the rest of Waltons appalling decisions through the rest of the game. Pen appeal 1) Hand ball. Correct decision 2) Gully taken out with fore arm smash & body Check. Wrong decision definitely a pen 3) Lambert Shirt almost taken off. Wrong decision definate Pen no:-2 4) Hammond dive. Correct decision 5) Fonte Foul free kick edge of the box NO pen. Wrong decision 6) Lambert trip/dive. That was a 50/50 some times given sometimes not! 7) Assault on Rickie. Definite Pen. Wrong decision So in my opinion he had 7 big calls, he got 2-right, 1 is open to opinion & 4 wrong. He let them niggle & spoil throughout the 1st half with little recourse. All in all Philip Walton had a mare, not biased towards either team he was just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Watch it again or get some glasses? Yes the ball was trickling out of play, but the keeper took his legs out. Think you're on your own with that one. It was a dive, was going down before the keeper got to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 I didn't think either was a pen, the foul on Fonte was nearer the Kingsland than the penalty area & I thought Rickie dived for the second. However I didn't think Hammond dived, we should have had one for the attack on Rickie & also when Lallana was shoved in the chest about a yard inside the box. IMHO the ref got the lot wrong, but somehow he contrived to get the right result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 The only beef I have with the Brighton fans is their lack of perspective on the whole game. Yes the first pen given was well outside the box & an awful decision, Rickie's 2nd is also questionable. but they seem to completely dismiss or forget the rest of Waltons appalling decisions through the rest of the game. Pen appeal 1) Hand ball. Correct decision 2) Gully taken out with fore arm smash & body Check. Wrong decision definitely a pen 3) Lambert Shirt almost taken off. Wrong decision definate Pen no:-2 4) Hammond dive. Correct decision 5) Fonte Foul free kick edge of the box NO pen. Wrong decision 6) Lambert trip/dive. That was a 50/50 some times given sometimes not! 7) Assault on Rickie. Definite Pen. Wrong decision So in my opinion he had 7 big calls, he got 2-right, 1 is open to opinion & 4 wrong. He let them niggle & spoil throughout the 1st half with little recourse. All in all Philip Walton had a mare, not biased towards either team he was just terrible. Spot on assessment! Bottom line we would have won the game regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 (edited) Nothing wrong with Blackburn's goal - by know that trick should be known by everyone in professional football, so tough luck on Wigan that they let themselves be fooled... Edit: ok, it seems the highlights I've been seeing didn't show the problem in this case: that Yakubu didn't touch the ball and make it spin at least one full round before leaving it for Pedersen - if that is the case, the goal should not have stood... You need an update on the laws, it hasn't had to rotate one circumference for about 15 years, you only have to move the ball now. Which Yakubu also didn't, of course. They changed that the same time as being able to score directly from the kick off. Procedure • The ball must be placed inside the corner arc nearest to the point where the ball crossed the goal line • The corner fl agpost must not be moved • Opponents must remain at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the corner arc until the ball is in play • The ball must be kicked by a player of the attacking team • The ball is in play when it is kicked and moves • The kicker must not play the ball again until it has touched another player[/Quote] With the punishment being If, after the ball is in play, the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has touched another player: • an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick) Blackburn's goal was worse because Pedersen DE FACTO broke the laws of the game and committed a foul that meant the goal shouldn't stand, our penalty was a foul, and it was only the judgement of where that foul occurred which was wrong. http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/lawsofthegame/index.html Edited 20 November, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Just in case you have not heard it.. Gustavo`s interview http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/brighton/9642978.stm He does not care about the match after 55 mins....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Just in case you have not heard it.. Gustavo`s interview http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/brighton/9642978.stm He does not care about the match after 55 mins....lol Someone should point out they were already 1-0 down and their spoiling, defensive game plan was already out of the window by then. If he'd said "we were in it until 47 minutes" I might have given him some credit. If you foul often enough in and around your own box, the ref's going to give some against you. Of course amusingly due to Brighton's general willingness to fall over (esp. Mackail-Smith), Saints actually conceded nearly twice as many fouls as Brighton despite having the ball 58% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Mr Walton did not cover himself with glory to say the least but i really don`t give a toss 3 points is 3 points Poor old gustavo,must be really ****ed off PMSL But in all fairness they never looked like scoring at all With no shots on target that's pretty much a given... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Someone should point out they were already 1-0 down and their spoiling, defensive game plan was already out of the window by then. If he'd said "we were in it until 47 minutes" I might have given him some credit. If you foul often enough in and around your own box, the ref's going to give some against you. Of course amusingly due to Brighton's general willingness to fall over (esp. Mackail-Smith), Saints actually conceded nearly twice as many fouls as Brighton despite having the ball 58% of the time. The funny thing was that as the penalty was given, I said to my mate "Go on, argue with him, get yourself booked..." and was highly amused when Tauricco not only talked himself into trouble but a red card as well... Brighton were appalling, nasty whinging, niggly little ****s who could probably count themselves lucky they didn't lose another player when he barged into the ref after the second penalty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Brighton were appalling, nasty whinging, niggly little ****s .. Exactly the same as they were last year at St Marys then, only difference is we have improved dramatically in 12 months and they haven't ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Exactly the same as they were last year at St Marys then, only difference is we have improved dramatically in 12 months and they haven't ! Makes Poyet's comments about us having Championship players in League One all the funnier... Obviously old Gus has League One players in the Championship.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 It was a total dive, he knew exactly what he was doing. He ran into the keeper. Hammond bottled it. He should have used his left foot to shoot past the keeper, he tried to take the easy way out. It was a rubbish attempt at cheating by Hammond and that is why he didn't argue about the booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 It was a total dive, he knew exactly what he was doing. He ran into the keeper. Hammond bottled it. He should have used his left foot to shoot past the keeper, he tried to take the easy way out. It was a rubbish attempt at cheating by Hammond and that is why he didn't argue about the booking. From the other end it actually looked like Hammond was running away from the ball and towards the keeper to initiate contact ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 Ooh, that was embarrassing. He got there too soon and planted both feet hoping that the keeper would clear him out. Unfortunately the keeper didn't oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 20 November, 2011 Share Posted 20 November, 2011 It would never happen but would be great to see if the FA grew some balls and agreed that the incident wasa mistake by the ref that changed the whole course of the game so ordered it to be replayed behind closed doors And they completely ignore their fouling in the box before that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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