alpine_saint Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Considering his performances just before the break, is it not fair to say that his importance to the team means he should be mentioned in the same breath as Lallana and Lambert ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Probably. I hope to god he stays up front though, he's been incredible when he's played there (this season and last). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 No, not by a long way IMO. He was good at Coventry, but overall he can be inconsistent and sometimes lazy. Can be a liability away from home in midfield. A few more performances like Coventry and I may change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Lambert - goals (11) assists (6) Guly - goals (7) assists (8 ) Lallana - goals (6) assists (6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Would definitely keep him and Lambert up front. Right wing seems to be a problem area for us with Guly and Chaplow filling in there recently with De Ridder comiing on later. Wonder what the long term plan is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Sometimes he tries to be too pretty but he is Brazilian so we can forgive him for that. Otherwise he is pure Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 * thinks it might be time for someone to find the Taxi for Guly thread from this time last year * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 He has his moments when he ****s it up, but other than that he is absolutely brilliant. And most importantly, he delivers as shown by stats above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 * thinks it might be time for someone to find the Taxi for Guly thread from this time last year * and the one's about Jos too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 To be honest we probably shouldn't play him tomorrow to keep him safe from Poyet's racist abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Would definitely keep him and Lambert up front. Right wing seems to be a problem area for us with Guly and Chaplow filling in there recently with De Ridder comiing on later. Wonder what the long term plan is. Ronaldo. ......the fat retired one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 It's delightful to see another appreciative thread about Mr G. I wish it could put a stop to the infernal loud sighs behind me in the Kingsland every time something doesn't come off. Lambert and Lallana doesn't get those when a pass goes astray. I'm glad to see him having come into his own although I'm unlikely to get a medal for thinking that I saw his capability when so many where pulling their hair out and shouting for taxis. I wonder what NA could have done with Papa Waigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 It's delightful to see another appreciative thread about Mr G. I wish it could put a stop to the infernal loud sighs behind me in the Kingsland every time something doesn't come off. Lambert and Lallana doesn't get those when a pass goes astray. I'm glad to see him having come into his own although I'm unlikely to get a medal for thinking that I saw his capability when so many where pulling their hair out and shouting for taxis. I wonder what NA could have done with Papa Waigo? In fact Guly has scored the same number of league goals from open play as Lambert, he'll never acheive the same status with the fanbase though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 (edited) Considering his performances just before the break, is it not fair to say that his importance to the team means he should be mentioned in the same breath as Lallana and Lambert ? Here I am agreeing with you AGAIN, Alpine. (why are you controversial to so many?) The main problems with players who don't seem to "pull their weight " to everyone's satisfaction is that (like the England side does so often) is to play good players out of their best / normal positions. (A recent thread on Anders Svensson underlined some of the points I knew to be true about AS.) When we signed an experienced Brazilian who was 6 foot plus, my immediate thought was he was another sort of Papa Wiago type, who puts himself about but on occasions has a golden touch and scores " ridiculous goals" out of nothing whilst seeming to move in slow-motion. But the problems of trying to overcome the language /cultural problems of English football aren't restricted to foreign players, as some who played under Gordon Strachan would be first to admit. In playing Guly in any sort of midfield role it's easy to criticise his lack of defensive skills, whilst in attack he can play the sort of first time ball (as he did to lay on De Ridders goal v. Reading) with such ease that defenders are beaten before they can move. His two goals v. Midd'boro show this quality of perception ..(or will someone say that 'boro were sh*t that day, or did he just make them look it?) To coin a " McMenemy-ism "..it is Guly who is the prima-donna who needs the service, and the versatility of Lambert and Lallana can serve him, whilst still picking up a few goals themselves. IMHO we should play Guly "at the top" ..or up front as my generation used to say, and let him play havoc with defenders and score and assist others in the process. By the time he has given them the run around for an hour, Adkins can follow his now sensible, regular routine change and put on a " fresh " sub. like Connolly or Barnard - to continue the torment. If he continues to show his recent form, I might think he could become our leading scorer ... come April. Edited 18 November, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 He's had poor games this year, and he's had blinding games. But for some reason people are too quick to finish him off after a couple of bad games. He's a very effective player at this level and is a match winner on his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 He's the one player that really can drive you nuts! Either brilliant or careless with nowt in between! Love it and him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Guly would start for Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 In fact Guly has scored the same number of league goals from open play as Lambert, he'll never acheive the same status with the fanbase though. scoring the winner at nottarf krap in a few weeks may help some what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Lambert - goals (11) assists (6) Guly - goals (7) assists (8 ) Lallana - goals (6) assists (6) Game.... set..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 November, 2011 Share Posted 18 November, 2011 Game.... set..... In the interest of fairness I have to add that Lallana missed 2 or 3 games through injury, whereas Guly has played a part in every single game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 19 November, 2011 Share Posted 19 November, 2011 A very good player who has played a key role in helping us get to where we now are. Last season and this he has scored some vital goals and assisted in many others. I think he is best utilised up front in a more attcking position. He can also be slotted into midfield but is often misunderstood when played there by a lot of fans and sometimes critiscised for being too lazy. He is not a defensive midfielder in the mould of hammond or schneiderling or quite have the engine of chaplow or cork but there is without doubt a role for him in the team. Guly does actually do a lot of tracking back when played in midfield that can go unnoticed. A team needs balance and we have a good mix at the moment and guly has the potential the same as many others in this team to do it at premiership level for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 November, 2011 Share Posted 19 November, 2011 ....In the interest of fairness I have to add that Lallana missed 2 or 3 games through injury, whereas Guly has played a part in every single game this season. yes he has...and yet 3 of Rickie's goals were penalties! There really isn't a lot of difference between their performances result-wise, but after seeing Guly in his " new role " ..can't help wondering how he might have done... had we discovered his talent " up top" from match 1. .....maybe take another look at the stats. after New Year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 19 November, 2011 Share Posted 19 November, 2011 Is there still no reason to think he can improve as a player also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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