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NorthstandChats obsession with Adkins??


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Think their forum is a very good one, not just for football, interesting stuff about news, other teams etc

 

But, they seem to always have about 3 threads on their first page linked to how bad Nigel is??!!

 

They seem to still be upset over the 'if they keep up with us' comment.

 

If I could be bothered to register on there, would explain the context of that comment - local Southampton radio reporter, asking if he thought the promotion race would be between the two of us - he replied if they can keep up with us, i.e. confident we would be there, and if Brighton carried on so would they.

 

Considering he took over when we were well off the pace, something like 6 points and worse goal difference - and finished 3 points behind with better goal difference, proved to be a reasonable comment.

 

 

If you carry any Poyet v Adkins comparison into this season....Poyet added CMS, Buckley, LuaLua, Harley, Rodriguez - all decent names for this league - surely significantly higher net spend than Adkins and have been on awful run, after 16 games fallen 13 points behind - know who I think is the manager who plays better football with more success!

 

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?219236-Nigel-Adkins-Song

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?219328-Do-you-think-you-d-like-Gus-if-he-was-the-manager-of-Southampton

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?219327-Do-you-think-you-d-like-Gus-if-he-was-the-manager-of-Southampton

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?219185-Bring-a-scarf-to-Southampton

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?219215-If-we-beat-southapton-away

 

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?219253-Comments-from-Saints-Fans-on-local-paper-site...

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They are convinced that anyone could do the job Adkins is doing. And they're also convinced they're now one of the biggest clubs in England. Absolute morons that cannot be reasoned with... good to see many of them have now "come round" a little though. It's annoying, as I always used to look out for Brighton results and had a good rapport with Seagulls supporters. Nevermind.

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didn't Calderon choose them for extra money?

 

All those players listed above would cost more than most in championship spent.

 

Would put them with Big Sam's WHU as two teams who can't play fast technical play with skillful dribbling / passing etc - both rely on physical play, cynical play and percentages

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On Gus

 

He's a good footballing character and has never really bad mouthed other managers or players. Concentrates on his own team, unlike Soton's physio. It also helps that I liked him as a player too. I don't remember Adkins as a player

 

Lol. Poyet couldn't stop whinging about us being like Daggers, Lambert the only difference, we play hoofball etc... :lol:

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didn't Calderon choose them for extra money?

 

 

I don't think he was left with a choice to make to be honest.

 

NC (and possibly Pardew as well) would not be ripped off by his wage demands,and with his dodgy injury record at the time, told him to bugger off.

 

So he crawled back to Gus - who at the end of the previous season had a hissy fit about the player - and they kissed and made up, saying he never wanted to leave Brighton in the first place.

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I love how they (and Bournemouth) hate us so much, it's very sweet.

 

What gets me with Brighton is some of their comments re winning League 1:

 

- "great achievement, you can't take it away from us" - not great, in reality 44 teams outperformed them in the football league last season, including the likes of barnsley, doncaster etc.

 

- "history won't remember who finished second" - most of the national press seem to have assumed we won League 1 last year, so "history" appears to have already forgotten

 

I think it stems from having been outside the top 2 divisions for most of recent history; small club, small mentality. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if we the Championship but it'd only be marginally sweeter than automatic promotion. COYS!

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Oh dear

 

 

I trust when Saints get promoted they will start paying back everyone they ripped off when they went into administration. Another club that seem to have got away with complete financial mis-management at others expense.

 

You never no little old Southampton may get their all time record attendance against us a **** Mary's next week! 32,500 would be huge for them! bless em

 

saints fans listen.....rivalry really? We have 1 rival and that is palace you lot are just a small team next to pompey. Who are by your rules are a much bigger club than you due to their recent run in the premier and don't lets forget wembley too. But you my friends, don't even register on my radar as rivals.

 

They`ve been top since the start in a ground that holds 32k. Meanwhile little old Brighton whose core support shrunk to 6-7k are now averaging 3.5k behind them in the attendance charts in a ground that is sold out for every match.

Then they pile on here to tell us how insignificant we are.

I suspect that we are going to become even more insignificant over the coming years.

 

Having too much time on my hands.. I have reported to the Echo every racist (monkey) comment and every reference to us mincers.. (homophobic). Maybe we could all do similar and cause another Daily Mail sheep-****ger story... The FA would have to be involved etc etc... and SCC club would have to investigate and issue an apology.

 

 

Southampton - like Palace & Pompey another club that f*cked over local businesses and came out smelling of roses.

 

Would love to see them fail like last season when their boasting came to nothing and we had our feet up and the trophy in the cabinet.

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There's nothing like "letting the football do the talking" eh?!?

 

TBF some of them say they don't hate Saints, they just hate Adkins. I'm not bothered one way or the other. We had to suffer Bompey in League One, and now Brighton in the nPC. Thank God we'll not have any south coast rivals in the Prem, eh?!?

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Who cares? This forum has just as many idiots as theirs, many of whom seem pretty keen on 'representing' Saints on other fans forums and giving it large. We have just as many idiots who don't make daft statements and rubbish things without any knowledge. It's what football forums are about it seems.

 

Brighton are, at best, a local derby for two games a season. Away from those two games, they are just another football team, just another mid-table club.

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It's funny how other fans don't seem to get it that when we went into administration every debt was paid in full - other than to the bank which held the mortgage on the stadium who accepted lower figure for an early settlement as they needed the money more than us.

 

It was the fans who had shares - like me - who lost money - and Lowe and his fellow directors who also had shares. Well I'd gladly have given my shares away to see us where we are now - and Lowe and co more than took their fare share out if the club in the 10 years they were in control.

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I find the rivalry with Brighton quite amusing.

 

However, in all fairness to them, Brighton is probably one the biggest underachieving football towns or city in the country

They have a pretty big population, and to the east of them there's hardly any football clubs of note at all. Also the people of Brighton & Hove love their area, they're passionate about it.

 

It's makes you wonder why 1979-83 are the only 4 years in the club's history in the top flight

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Don't even bother with NSC, they're a bunch of f*cking morons. I don't mind Brighton tbh, I hate Poyet but I don't have a problem with the club. Their fans seem to be a bit dim though, I went on that forum in the build-up to the game at the Withdean last season and they were just completely blinkered and you couldn't reason with them at all!

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Gus Poyet will, as we've already seen, come out in the press before our upcoming game and attempt to play 'mind games' with Adkins- trying to wind him up and put all the pressure on us, just like he did before our game at The Withdean last season. Just like that game, Adkins will refuse to lower himself to joining the mud slinging, and in the process wind Poyet and the Brighton fans up even more. He'll then outsmart Poyet on the pitch (again) and be gracious in victory, again winding Poyet and the Brighton fans up.

 

I suggest we follow Nigel's lead and let the football do the talking.

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They're annoyed at Adkins but have forgotten what Gus said about us, including refusing to shake Adkins hand. Its just banter ffs. All the little team around you start hating you when you're successful. It happens in most industries.

 

The most important thing is when Adkins said, "Can you keep up". He meant over the next 5 years.

 

To be fair to Poyet it was his weasel of an assistant Taricco who didn't shake Adkins hand.

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Our "rivalry" is supposeldy Pompey, but if you look at Brighton forums and Bournemouth last year, they have a far bigger problem with us then the Skates do right now.

 

I hope we win by a massive scoreline and the entire ground gets a rendition of "Poyet what's the score going?" Petty? pathetic? Oh absolutley, but I want it all the same.

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Gus Poyet will, as we've already seen, come out in the press before our upcoming game and attempt to play 'mind games' with Adkins- trying to wind him up and put all the pressure on us, just like he did before our game at The Withdean last season. Just like that game, Adkins will refuse to lower himself to joining the mud slinging, and in the process wind Poyet and the Brighton fans up even more. He'll then outsmart Poyet on the pitch (again) and be gracious in victory, again winding Poyet and the Brighton fans up.

 

I suggest we follow Nigel's lead and let the football do the talking.

 

+1. Great post.

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I don't care about them.......then again I would love for us to stuff them next Saturday.

 

Just like Bournemouth, they are another local-ish club, that hate us purely down to jealousy from the past. I'm sure Brighton used to be our 'friendly' club for pre-season matches etc.

 

3-0 win next Saturday please. They are a mid-table side.

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I'm not sure it's about the clubs it's more about the managers. Brighton fans have taken a strong dis-like to Nigel and lets face most of us don't think a great deal of Poyet. Being resonably local (which allows for more away fans) just adds a bit more to the match.

 

It's not rivallry like saints/pompey or Brighton/Palace but there is a bit of neddle between the two sets of supporters which if you ask me is a good thing. The atmosphere at SMS is always better if the home and away fans are up for it.

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I have a good mate who is a Brighton ST holder, so we have a bit of banter.

 

What makes me laugh about the Dagenham & Redbridge comment is, that this season, Poyet has had to go and get someone who can hold the ball up (Paynter). In order to give them a different option and an out ball. Their style of football has been effectively found out, and they couldn't change it during a game. Seems Nigel my have taught the great Gus something?!

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How many posts have we had on this forum in the last 12 months declaring how much we don't care about Brighton and about their obsession with us....?

 

Absolutely spot on. I really, really don't give a monkeys about them and I've just completely wasted 2 minutes of my life writing this. I was so happy at the Withdean last season because we got 3 points, that's all. But we all view forums for our own enjoyment and if you want the banter with them, that's fine.

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Strangely, not sure why they are obsessed with making enemies or creating this false sense of rivalry... whichever way you look at it, it smacks of a chip on shoulder and not even sure where that chip came from.

 

They seem to have forgotten a few things : 1) how vast majority of fans including saints felt for them when their ground was sold from underthem , and how supportive fans from all clubs were in supporting their online petition when their planning application was going through a public inquiry, 2) That most fans including sainst were really pleased when they finally were able to go ahead and get a new ground 3) that Adkins comment was in direct response to a question of 'can you keep up with Brighton? so what was he meant to say? NO? 4) That if Poyet wants to play mind games fair enough - if tehy work he will get credit for being a good manager (in the way that fecker Ferguson was always arse licked by the media for his mastering of them), if tehy dont Poyet will look like a Tool. 5) Adkins record is pretty good - and better than Poyet's game for game by some margin now 6) although we are comfortable financially our 'investment' in players is not what you would call gargantuan or even ahead of what they have done 7) No businesses, companies tax man etc missed out on any monies due - only Aviva and Barclays took a hit - a hit only because for some strange reason our reduction of the debt for which we compromised our quality of 1st team that led to relegation, was not deemed rapid enough... still not clear why... so to compare us to pompey is laughable 8) their own history of finacial problems

 

That they have some fans that fail to grasp any of the above does suggest an element of stupidity, but all clubs have those on their message boards so hardly surprizing...

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Southampton Football Club never went into administration and paid all their accounts in full. Southampton Stadium settled the mortgage with Aviva whilst the Barclays overdraft was settled by the Leibherrs.

 

Who paid the £90m for the Amex? Doesn't it have to be paid back in ten years? I think a lot of those commenting about attendances never did arithmetic at school. I don't think they have had many sell outs so their average crowd is nowhere near ours. As for Brighton they are not local rivals and are as important to us as Barnsley. It is only the result and the points gained that count and then have the blue line drawn.

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Like it or not these Brighton games are more important than most of the other games. At the beginning of the season the top five must win games thread reveal a list something like this; Pompey, West Ham, Leicester, Reading and Brighton.

 

All the better for it I say, ramp up the pressure and kick the ****s into touch, it will make the first pint of the evening taste even better.

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Like it or not these Brighton games are more important than most of the other games. At the beginning of the season the top five must win games thread reveal a list something like this; Pompey, West Ham, Leicester, Reading and Brighton.

 

All the better for it I say, ramp up the pressure and kick the ****s into touch, it will make the first pint of the evening taste even better.

 

I can understand your point, in a way, that beating the likes of the list you have given can be more enjoyable but I don't see how the three points against Brighton are more important than any other. To me, three points against Barnsley are just as important as three points against Brighton. I would say, though, that three points against any of our promotion rivals can be more important than other games but Brighton don't fall into the promotion rivals catagory imo. One exception though; we owe the skates big time so I'm talking sh ! te.

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From purely a points point of view you are correct but there is more to be gained from beating Brighton then three points.

 

OK, that's fair enough. I think I went off topic, a bit, which was wrong. I just wanted to re-affirm that I, personally, don't care about Brighton at all (except the OB who arrested me for breach of the piece during our game at the Goldstone in 78/79 ;-) ).

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OK, that's fair enough. I think I went off topic, a bit, which was wrong. I just wanted to re-affirm that I, personally, don't care about Brighton at all (except the OB who arrested me for breach of the piece during our game at the Goldstone in 78/79 ;-) ).

 

To be fair, Brighton does have a reputation for being a place where plenty of 'pieces get breached.

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They just sound bitter that the great start they had has now gone. Based on the last 8 games they sit last in the table. Where as we are first. On that form i would concentrate on how well my own club is doing. Obviously Poyet isn't as great as some thought he was. Getting out of league one is one thing, getting out of the championship is something totally different. Still banging on about last season while we are 16 games into this season is pretty funny.

 

I don't see Brighton as a rival at all. The same goes for Bompey. When we were behind them all in the league they were quick to point out we were the worst club on the south coast based on league position. Funny how they don't say we are the best south coast club when we are in front of them. Seems they like to talk about us a lot. All i care about is getting 3 points. Couldn't care who we play.

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OK, that's fair enough. I think I went off topic, a bit, which was wrong. I just wanted to re-affirm that I, personally, don't care about Brighton at all (except the OB who arrested me for breach of the piece during our game at the Goldstone in 78/79 ;-) ).

 

I got arrested there in 84 for throwing a 'dangerous missile', which happened to be a snow ball. I got taken to an old wooden police hut behind the north stand, where after being left to stew for a bit they phoned my mum but put the phone down before it was answered, gave me a lecture and sent me off.

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