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EBS1980

EBS1980

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Seems the guardian and observer aren't our friends now.

 

Tweet from Paul Hayward chief sports writer at observer:

 

Football's least helpful press office/club: Southampton. Word of advice. Never suppress good news.

 

Caused a bit of a reaction from fans commenting back.

MOSaint

MOSaint

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PaulHayward_gnm Paul Hayward

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@BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club.

 

"Hey Southampton tell me your transfer targets! What? No! well I'm just going to throw a tantrum on twitter"

Badger

Badger

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"Hey Southampton tell me your transfer targets! What? No! well I'm just going to throw a tantrum on twitter"

 

A wider readership than the Gruaniad and its sister paper then.

The Cat

The Cat

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Hayward's a pretty average journalist. Think he wrote for the Mail before moving to Guardian/Observer a couple of years ago which is the equivalent of moving from Pompey to Saints. He writes a feature column in the Observer Sport section. My guess is he wanted to do a piece on Saints but no one from the club was available for interview (or couldn't be arsed).

 

Oh well. We don't need to whore ourselves out to the media.

The Cat

The Cat

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A wider readership than the Gruaniad and its sister paper then.

 

Well obviously in regards to print media, but the Guardian does have about 31 million users of it's website and for a long time was the biggest UK newspaper website until the Mail started ramping up their traffic by stuffing their front page with pictures of scantily clad females and concentrating on exciting things like celebrity gossip.

The Cat

The Cat

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I just want to know what the good news is

 

I reckon he means the good news of this season in general rather than one specific new development.

supersonic

supersonic

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Who cares? He makes no difference to our team. Idrather have a team thatwas successful and disliked by the media than an average team loved by them. Most journalists are lying scum anyway

MOSaint

MOSaint

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I just want to know what the good news is

 

Signing a new right back apparently, he wanted saints to tell him which right back was joining us and the club didn't respond. He seems more upset that they didn't even acknowledge his request.

buctootim

buctootim

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he wanted saints to tell him which right back was joining us and the club didn't respond. He seems more upset that they didn't even acknowledge his request.

 

"supressing good news" suggests actively doing something than just ignoring him. If it simply means keeping schtum about some transfer target, good for them.

MOSaint

MOSaint

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How do you know that?

 

PaulHayward_gnm Paul Hayward

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@BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club.

 

The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy.

buctootim

buctootim

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The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy.

 

He must be a bit simple to think they would tell him. Push the price up, alert the competition, destabilise the deal and **** off Butterfield and Richardson. Not an all round win is it?

Sour Mash

Sour Mash

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The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy.
He's being sarcastic. He's obviously looking at doing a piece on our success this season, we'll get a lot more of it, despite some of the berks on here thinking there is an anti Saints agenda in the media.

And some of the Saints fans on twitter seriously make me cringe, utter sad cases.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Wouldn't be surprised if we're back in for Clyne. Could cost a bit though.

 

He is out of contract in the summer and is refusing at the moment to sign a new deal. He could be available for a knock down price in January or for a compensation fee due to being under 24 in the summer. So he might not cost that much...

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2054784/England-cards-Nathaniel-Clyne-Premier-clubs-eye-Crystal-Palace-defender.html

Jimmy_D

Jimmy_D

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So he wants exclusive information on our transfer targets, and he dangles a carrot of writing a positive story about us to try and get it, then goes off on one on Twitter when we don't bite?

 

Sod him, we get positive stories written about us every single week in the match reports.

 

Edit: Hm, maybe my sarcasm detector needs recalibrating again... or maybe sleep heh.

 

Ah well, either way, positive stories will be written one way or the other while we're doing well on the pitch, and negative ones while we're not doing well. Point being, the bits on the pitch come first.

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Colinjb

Colinjb

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Ah well, either way, positive stories will be written one way or the other while we're doing well on the pitch, and negative ones while we're not doing well. Point being, the bits on the pitch come first.

 

Absolutely. Let them sniff while we are rosy. But give them nothing, they wouldn't dare drop us a favour if fortune went the other way, bloody vultures.

Sour Mash

Sour Mash

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Are people completely incapable of detecting sarcasm in text?!
This is Saintsweb, what do you expect? Plus have you seen the state of some of our bods commenting on twitter? The media hate us ha ha!
trousers

trousers

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Are people completely incapable of detecting sarcasm in text?!

 

Depends how well written said text is. Couldn't see any overt sarcasm in the OP twitter quote. Perhaps it was taken out of context? Dunno.

um pahars

um pahars

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The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy.

 

You do realise he was being sarcastic don't you :facepalm:

 

And as someone else has posted, some of the Twitter responses are cringetastic. Fortunately, there are a couple of people on there that display a more mature, thoughtful and reasoned response.

 

As for the actual thrust of his Tweet, then whilst I sort of understand our reluctance to engage with the press, like the Photo Ban I do think it is something we might want to reconsider.

JackanorySFC

JackanorySFC

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As always the Saintsweb and twitter muppets come out in force at the sligtest hint that SFC aren't 100% in the right... The same people on twitter saying "the media hate us", "no one writes about us", why are we 2nd on the Football league show ffs" etc etc stick up for the club when they refuse to return the calls of a journo at a national that wants to do a positive feature on the club!!!!!

 

Personally I get my SFC fixes from a variety of locations, including here and twitter, but I love reading about us in the papers and online knowing fans of other clubs will be reading it too and noticing the great work being done here. That goes for when things are bad too, at work I've had plenty of Hammers, Spurs, Gooners etc sympathising with our plight under Lowe when people like Martin Samuel were destroying him.

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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As always the Saintsweb and twitter muppets come out in force at the sligtest hint that SFC aren't 100% in the right... The same people on twitter saying "the media hate us", "no one writes about us", why are we 2nd on the Football league show ffs" etc etc stick up for the club when they refuse to return the calls of a journo at a national that wants to do a positive feature on the club!!!!!

 

Personally I get my SFC fixes from a variety of locations, including here and twitter, but I love reading about us in the papers and online knowing fans of other clubs will be reading it too and noticing the great work being done here. That goes for when things are bad too, at work I've had plenty of Hammers, Spurs, Gooners etc sympathising with our plight under Lowe when people like Martin Samuel were destroying him.

 

This^^^

 

We complain that we never get any coverage in the press and then complain when the press try to give us coverage....

Graffito

Graffito

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Hayward has a point though we don't know to whom he wanted access and what he wanted to write. Nigel Adkins promotes the club well but beyond that the clubs PR is poor and I think they're missing a trick.

hutch

hutch

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But by the same token I'm glad we don't give "exclusives" down the pub to selected journalists on the back of a promise.

 

Keep it professional. We do press conferences (every Thursday?) open to all journalists. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman

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Who cares what a load of bellends think on some naff social media site?

 

We'll know who we sign, when they sign, when it's announced on the official website. The trouble with everyone today is that everyone is so impatient.

saintrich

saintrich

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If saints slagged off the Guardian, no-one would care.

 

If the Guardian slag off Saints, no-one should care either.

 

Too many people take what one guy in the press say as gospel.

 

"Boo-hoo I couldn't finish my article on Saints"

JackanorySFC

JackanorySFC

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But it's all completely true - which part is unaccurate? On one side you moan the Echo gets rumours off football websites then you back the club when they print factual, relevant information (good news story too) about training ground redevelopments without the clubs say so?

 

I suppose you also think the back page article in today's Echo where they interview the England U17 manager and he sings the praises of our academy is another example of the Echo running negative stories about the club?

 

Jeez, sometimes you just have to use common sense, put your hands up and say fair enough, 99% of the way SFC is run is great but they could do a tiny bit better in the PR stakes.

Nexstar

Nexstar

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Depends how well written said text is. Couldn't see any overt sarcasm in the OP twitter quote. Perhaps it was taken out of context? Dunno.

 

@Paul Hayward

@BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club.

 

This is the outstandingly obvious sarcasm.

trousers

trousers

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@Paul Hayward

@BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club.

 

This is the outstandingly obvious sarcasm.

 

Ah ok. Fair dos. I was going by the OP and skim read the rest. My bad.

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