EBS1980 Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Seems the guardian and observer aren't our friends now. Tweet from Paul Hayward chief sports writer at observer: Football's least helpful press office/club: Southampton. Word of advice. Never suppress good news. Caused a bit of a reaction from fans commenting back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I sniff a big signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 PaulHayward_gnm Paul Hayward @ @BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club. "Hey Southampton tell me your transfer targets! What? No! well I'm just going to throw a tantrum on twitter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 eh? On loan to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Who? I'm guessing... from the comment on twitter..."Never surpress good news" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 link? https://twitter.com/#!/PaulHayward_gnm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 "Hey Southampton tell me your transfer targets! What? No! well I'm just going to throw a tantrum on twitter" A wider readership than the Gruaniad and its sister paper then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Hayward's a pretty average journalist. Think he wrote for the Mail before moving to Guardian/Observer a couple of years ago which is the equivalent of moving from Pompey to Saints. He writes a feature column in the Observer Sport section. My guess is he wanted to do a piece on Saints but no one from the club was available for interview (or couldn't be arsed). Oh well. We don't need to whore ourselves out to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 ...so we're signing nathaniel clyne then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Am i bothered by what some journalist thinks? No. All I care about is watching entertaining football, winning games and being top of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 A wider readership than the Gruaniad and its sister paper then. Well obviously in regards to print media, but the Guardian does have about 31 million users of it's website and for a long time was the biggest UK newspaper website until the Mail started ramping up their traffic by stuffing their front page with pictures of scantily clad females and concentrating on exciting things like celebrity gossip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I just want to know what the good news is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 I just want to know what the good news is I reckon he means the good news of this season in general rather than one specific new development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Who cares? He makes no difference to our team. Idrather have a team thatwas successful and disliked by the media than an average team loved by them. Most journalists are lying scum anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 I just want to know what the good news is Signing a new right back apparently, he wanted saints to tell him which right back was joining us and the club didn't respond. He seems more upset that they didn't even acknowledge his request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 he wanted saints to tell him which right back was joining us and the club didn't respond. He seems more upset that they didn't even acknowledge his request. "supressing good news" suggests actively doing something than just ignoring him. If it simply means keeping schtum about some transfer target, good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Signing a new right back apparently. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 How do you know that? PaulHayward_gnm Paul Hayward @ @BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club. The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy. He must be a bit simple to think they would tell him. Push the price up, alert the competition, destabilise the deal and **** off Butterfield and Richardson. Not an all round win is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Never suppress good news. Paul Hayward is pregnant!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy. He's being sarcastic. He's obviously looking at doing a piece on our success this season, we'll get a lot more of it, despite some of the berks on here thinking there is an anti Saints agenda in the media. And some of the Saints fans on twitter seriously make me cringe, utter sad cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if we're back in for Clyne. Could cost a bit though. He is out of contract in the summer and is refusing at the moment to sign a new deal. He could be available for a knock down price in January or for a compensation fee due to being under 24 in the summer. So he might not cost that much... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2054784/England-cards-Nathaniel-Clyne-Premier-clubs-eye-Crystal-Palace-defender.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 He is out of contract in the summer and is refusing at the moment to sign a new deal. He could be available for a knock down price in January or for a compensation fee due to being under 24 in the summer. So he might not cost that much... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2054784/England-cards-Nathaniel-Clyne-Premier-clubs-eye-Crystal-Palace-defender.html Good on FIFA 12 to so he must be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Are people completely incapable of detecting sarcasm in text?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Are people completely incapable of detecting sarcasm in text?! Tell me about it. Lot of face palming needed for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 (edited) So he wants exclusive information on our transfer targets, and he dangles a carrot of writing a positive story about us to try and get it, then goes off on one on Twitter when we don't bite? Sod him, we get positive stories written about us every single week in the match reports. Edit: Hm, maybe my sarcasm detector needs recalibrating again... or maybe sleep heh. Ah well, either way, positive stories will be written one way or the other while we're doing well on the pitch, and negative ones while we're not doing well. Point being, the bits on the pitch come first. Edited 9 November, 2011 by Jimmy_D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Ah well, either way, positive stories will be written one way or the other while we're doing well on the pitch, and negative ones while we're not doing well. Point being, the bits on the pitch come first. Absolutely. Let them sniff while we are rosy. But give them nothing, they wouldn't dare drop us a favour if fortune went the other way, bloody vultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Are people completely incapable of detecting sarcasm in text?! This is Saintsweb, what do you expect? Plus have you seen the state of some of our bods commenting on twitter? The media hate us ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Are people completely incapable of detecting sarcasm in text?! Depends how well written said text is. Couldn't see any overt sarcasm in the OP twitter quote. Perhaps it was taken out of context? Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 The journalist outright states that his intention was to get our press office to tell him the name of a right back he believes we are about to buy. You do realise he was being sarcastic don't you And as someone else has posted, some of the Twitter responses are cringetastic. Fortunately, there are a couple of people on there that display a more mature, thoughtful and reasoned response. As for the actual thrust of his Tweet, then whilst I sort of understand our reluctance to engage with the press, like the Photo Ban I do think it is something we might want to reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 As always the Saintsweb and twitter muppets come out in force at the sligtest hint that SFC aren't 100% in the right... The same people on twitter saying "the media hate us", "no one writes about us", why are we 2nd on the Football league show ffs" etc etc stick up for the club when they refuse to return the calls of a journo at a national that wants to do a positive feature on the club!!!!! Personally I get my SFC fixes from a variety of locations, including here and twitter, but I love reading about us in the papers and online knowing fans of other clubs will be reading it too and noticing the great work being done here. That goes for when things are bad too, at work I've had plenty of Hammers, Spurs, Gooners etc sympathising with our plight under Lowe when people like Martin Samuel were destroying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 As always the Saintsweb and twitter muppets come out in force at the sligtest hint that SFC aren't 100% in the right... The same people on twitter saying "the media hate us", "no one writes about us", why are we 2nd on the Football league show ffs" etc etc stick up for the club when they refuse to return the calls of a journo at a national that wants to do a positive feature on the club!!!!! Personally I get my SFC fixes from a variety of locations, including here and twitter, but I love reading about us in the papers and online knowing fans of other clubs will be reading it too and noticing the great work being done here. That goes for when things are bad too, at work I've had plenty of Hammers, Spurs, Gooners etc sympathising with our plight under Lowe when people like Martin Samuel were destroying him. This^^^ We complain that we never get any coverage in the press and then complain when the press try to give us coverage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Hayward has a point though we don't know to whom he wanted access and what he wanted to write. Nigel Adkins promotes the club well but beyond that the clubs PR is poor and I think they're missing a trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliegeorgesflymo Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 I'm just glad that we do not have a chairman who uses the club as an opportunity to get themselves on TV in the papers etc - it may change but at the moment refreshing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 *yawn* I'm entirely satisfied that we do our talking on the pitch and through the league tables. What is this "twitter" that people are going on about nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 FWIW I do not think that a "complete brick wall for press inquiries" is beneficial to the club !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 But by the same token I'm glad we don't give "exclusives" down the pub to selected journalists on the back of a promise. Keep it professional. We do press conferences (every Thursday?) open to all journalists. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Who cares what a load of bellends think on some naff social media site? We'll know who we sign, when they sign, when it's announced on the official website. The trouble with everyone today is that everyone is so impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Hayward has a point though we don't know to whom he wanted access and what he wanted to write. Nigel Adkins promotes the club well but beyond that the clubs PR is poor and I think they're missing a trick. Which is what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 If saints slagged off the Guardian, no-one would care. If the Guardian slag off Saints, no-one should care either. Too many people take what one guy in the press say as gospel. "Boo-hoo I couldn't finish my article on Saints" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 More cr*p from the press... http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2011/11/09/andy-turner-why-the-press-and-football-clubs-must-work-together-92746-29745295/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Lets not forget what happened with Elliot Ward & Liam Fontaine when press got word without our knowledge............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 OH MY ****ING GOD This thread is almost 'never return to this forum again' embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 More cr*p from the press... http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2011/11/09/andy-turner-why-the-press-and-football-clubs-must-work-together-92746-29745295/? But it's all completely true - which part is unaccurate? On one side you moan the Echo gets rumours off football websites then you back the club when they print factual, relevant information (good news story too) about training ground redevelopments without the clubs say so? I suppose you also think the back page article in today's Echo where they interview the England U17 manager and he sings the praises of our academy is another example of the Echo running negative stories about the club? Jeez, sometimes you just have to use common sense, put your hands up and say fair enough, 99% of the way SFC is run is great but they could do a tiny bit better in the PR stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Depends how well written said text is. Couldn't see any overt sarcasm in the OP twitter quote. Perhaps it was taken out of context? Dunno. @Paul Hayward @BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club. This is the outstandingly obvious sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Interesting to see one of the tweeters talking to the journo is our old friend Nineteencanteen. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 @Paul Hayward @BenStanners That's right. I wanted to know which right-back they're going to buy. The aim was to write about the success of the club. This is the outstandingly obvious sarcasm. Ah ok. Fair dos. I was going by the OP and skim read the rest. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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