RobM Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 After what we've been through, I'm not sure I'd laugh at their fans and the position they are in, it was horrible. Being resigned to losing one of your best players just to survive, during a season you've written off before December can't be fun. But that said, it's a cut-throat game so if we can walk out with LJ I wont feel too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 That thread is a good read. I do feel sorry for the Cov fans. Spent a bit of time on-site in Coventry. They're generally a good bunch, and don't deserve the crap they're going through. Fair play to them for their gallows humour though. That makes me chuckle, even if their situation doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 (edited) That thread is a good read. I do feel sorry for the Cov fans. Spent a bit of time on-site in Coventry. They're generally a good bunch, and don't deserve the crap they're going through. Fair play to them for their gallows humour though. That makes me chuckle, even if their situation doesn't. that could easily have been us.. remember SISU were more than interested to invest in us a few years back BTW Coventry are 1-0 down to Cardiff City at the moment, and Juke is playing but he has missed a couple. Edited 22 November, 2011 by patred44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 A connection to Southampton shouldn't be a factor in the decision and Maynard is available, in January. Despite Connolly's injury surely we can cope for a few more weeks and go for the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Nigel in the crowd tonight!!! Sauce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Juke's scored - header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 juke has just scored an equaliser.. a thumping header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Well well well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Im sure the Cov Manager will be asked about it all after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 A connection to Southampton shouldn't be a factor in the decision and Maynard is available, in January. Despite Connolly's injury surely we can cope for a few more weeks and go for the better player.Maynard has a better goal scoring record but he isn't IMO a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 If we pay £3m, does our Academy get anything for developing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 If we pay £3m, does our Academy get anything for developing him? No because he was released . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Everton get 25% apparentley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 A connection to Southampton shouldn't be a factor in the decision and Maynard is available, in January. Despite Connolly's injury surely we can cope for a few more weeks and go for the better player. Didn't City recently say they would rather keep him for the season, stay up and lose him for free at the end, then let him go in Jan? Have they since said he can leave in Jan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Well wether he comes to us or not he has done us a little favour tonight. Thought Cardiff would have won that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Personally don't see this as a goer at all. LJ would be a decent squad player and probably would improve as well but that kind of money for what effectively would be RL backup is a bit mental. 1M then maybe it's not bad but still really only a stopgap measure and still a squad signing. NA talked all summer long about only bringing in players that would improve the first team and, on the face of it, this signing wouldn't do that. Seems like this is more of an attractive deal for Cov and/or the players agent TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Regardless of what some people think about him, his 7 league goals this season put him in the top 10 scorers... in a team that's 23rd in the league. Thats more than Guly 6, and Lallana and Connolly have got 5 each..it's also almost half of Coventry's total ..the rest of the side have only managed 8 between them. It's also better than the other £4 million candidates being bantered about, so far this season Maynard has 6 league goals, JayRod and Sharp only 4 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchris Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Will be worth 3m if he can do this in every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Will be worth 3m if he can do this in every game ...think that's the goal of ANYONE'S season isn't it? .. in the 93rd minute, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Regardless of what some people think about him, his 7 league goals this season put him in the top 10 scorers... in a team that's 23rd in the league. Thats more than Guly 6, and Lallana and Connolly have got 5 each..it's also almost half of Coventry's total ..the rest of the side have only managed 8 between them. It's also better than the other £4 million candidates being bantered about, so far this season Maynard has 6 league goals, JayRod and Sharp only 4 each. Stats can be confusing though - you talk about 4M candidates but no one is willing to pay that for the ones you've mentioned (or certainly not us anyway). Sharp has a 3.25M exit clause and Maynard is out of contract in the summer so neither will go for much more than 3M which is what we're talking about with LJ (although that's probably paper talk). Maynard also plays for a team that is 22nd so the ratio is fairly similar but he does have a better goals to games ratio in previous seasons than LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Apparantly Thorne sounded resigned to losing him after the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 (edited) it was an astonishing admittance live on radio.. he admitted 'losing his best striker' asked if that was Juks last game for Coventry he replied... " I am very disappointed, just as we were getting things together we have to start over again" " It's not my decision I have to get on with it" Edited 22 November, 2011 by patred44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 it was an astonishing admittance live on radio.. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Link? it was on Saintsplayer.. think it was Radio Warwickshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 it was an astonishing admittance live on radio.. he admitted 'losing his best striker' asked if that was Juks last game for Coventry he replied... " I am very disappointed, just as we were getting things together we have to start over again" " It's not my decision I have to get on with it" Cheers for the write-up mate. Missed that you'd added all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 I would be rather underwhelmed if we sign him, he will not improve our frontline and has proven he can't cut it in the prem. We should be IMO looking at Maynard or perhaps wait until we are potentially promoted to sign someone of a better pedigree. I couldn't give a toss whether he has a saints crest tattoo'd on his bellend TBH he first and foremost needs to improve the team. Edit - That said a loan with option to buy isn't a bad bit of business just incase he is better than I am suggesting he is, would allow us to have a proper look at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 I would be rather underwhelmed if we sign him, he will not improve our frontline and has proven he can't cut it in the prem. We should be IMO looking at Maynard or perhaps wait until we are potentially promoted to sign someone of a better pedigree. I couldn't give a toss whether he has a saints crest tattoo'd on his bellend TBH he first and foremost needs to improve the team. Bit early to judge him at this stage. He's not even here yet. Coventry fans have just started a thread regarding the comments Andy Thorn made that patred44 mentioned above. http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/12808-i-will-be-told!-says-Thorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 I would be rather underwhelmed if we sign him, he will not improve our frontline and has proven he can't cut it in the prem. We should be IMO looking at Maynard or perhaps wait until we are potentially promoted to sign someone of a better pedigree. I couldn't give a toss whether he has a saints crest tattoo'd on his bellend TBH he first and foremost needs to improve the team. Edit - That said a loan with option to buy isn't a bad bit of business just incase he is better than I am suggesting he is, would allow us to have a proper look at him. Nearly everyone was underwhelmed by Jos, but he's turning into one of our most important players. Nigel and our coaches know more about Lukas than any of us, they'd have studied him for weeks. They'll know his strengths and weaknesses, if they feel he'll ad something to us and improve the group then he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 That said a loan with option to buy isn't a bad bit of business just incase he is better than I am suggesting he is, would allow us to have a proper look at him.[/QUOte] Absolutely. Did the same with Dale Stephens last year, didn't we; he did a reasonable job for us but we reasoned ultimately not good enough a player to do a job for us in the Championship. Those comments from Thorn certainly indicate he's off but is it 2 us or whoever bids highest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Nearly everyone was underwhelmed by Jos, but he's turning into one of our most important players. Nigel and our coaches know more about Lukas than any of us, they'd have studied him for weeks. They'll know his strengths and weaknesses, if they feel he'll ad something to us and improve the group then he will. Totally agree, and we will all know soon enough when that window slams shut on Thursday evening. At least if its between us and another club and the player has to decide we should be in with a decent shout this time :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Regardless of what some people think about him, his 7 league goals this season put him in the top 10 scorers... in a team that's 23rd in the league. Thats more than Guly 6, and Lallana and Connolly have got 5 each..it's also almost half of Coventry's total ..the rest of the side have only managed 8 between them. It's also better than the other £4 million candidates being bantered about, so far this season Maynard has 6 league goals, JayRod and Sharp only 4 each. Stats can be confusing though -Maynard also plays for a team that is 22nd so the ratio is fairly similar but he does have a better goals to games ratio in previous seasons than LJ. Interesting stats/analysis by David, although LJ's record of 7goals 18 games for a struggling side is impessive, I'm not sure a direct comparison can be made: Guly - has spent much of the season wide mf not out and out striker Lallana - ditto Connolly - yes, I accept he is only good in short bursts Maynard - similar to LJ but proven over longer (although not necessarily thr back up for Rickie) Rodriguez - nothing to add, but long term possibly a better prospect ? Sharp - 4 goals but missed a few weeks due to injury. Think we might do better inthe Jan window, but will wait and see what Adkins brings in,and trust his judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Massively overpriced at £3m. May be Coventry's top goalscorer but I think there/four have come from the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Bit early to judge him at this stage. He's not even here yet. Coventry fans have just started a thread regarding the comments Andy Thorn made that patred44 mentioned above. http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/12808-i-will-be-told!-says-Thorn That thread does have a feeling of deja vu to it. Thank Christ,the unholy trinity told SISU and Ken Dullard to 'foxtrot oscar' a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Massively overpriced at £3m. May be Coventry's top goalscorer but I think there/four have come from the spot. It may not be £3m though. And even if it is, it's probably 3m over years, if he achieves certain things with us - such as so many goals, so many apps, promotion etc. It will not be £3m guaretneed, I'm 99.9999% certain of that. Probably around £1m initial fee to snap him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Massively overpriced at £3m. May be Coventry's top goalscorer but I think there/four have come from the spot. Well if we are looking for a back up to Rickie, then being able to take a penalty when needed is no bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 They are broke and staring at admin. Im sure the fee will be nothing like 3m and will be heavily made of add ons incase we go up etc. We need another big man and he has a good record. I trust NA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Nearly everyone was underwhelmed by Jos, but he's turning into one of our most important players. Nigel and our coaches know more about Lukas than any of us, they'd have studied him for weeks. They'll know his strengths and weaknesses, if they feel he'll ad something to us and improve the group then he will. Jos had a better previous pedigree than young LJ. I can't see what he adds to Lambert,Guly,Connolly,Barnard,Steeeeeeeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Well if we are looking for a back up to Rickie, then being able to take a penalty when needed is no bad thing. He has missed a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Jos had a better previous pedigree than young LJ. I can't see what he adds to Lambert,Guly,Connolly,Barnard,Steeeeeeeve He probably adds very little, IF they all remain fit,injury free, and for whatever other reason available to us for selection. Although Steeeeeeeve has not played as a main striker for us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 He probably adds very little, IF they all remain fit,injury free, and for whatever other reason available to us for selection. Although Steeeeeeeve has not played as a main striker for us yet. If they all remain fit ?? How many strikers do you want ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchrisy Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Not fair to judge a player until you've seen him play for THIS club (Jos anyone?). If he's the man that Adkins then let's face it, he know's more than anybody on this forum...probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchrisy Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 *the man that Adkins wants, tired typing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 If they all remain fit ?? How many strikers do you want ?? Two to start the match, one on the bench. As Guly and Steeeeeve may also be required for wide MF roles, I don't think we have the surplus some imagine. An injury to RL leaves us a bit exposed. Whether we make a signing now or in Jan is a different debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 If he does sign, he does so as a backup which is a sign of confidence for our current strikers and also gives us some further depth. The fee, if ever disclosed, will be interesting to learn. What I am concerned about is the approach to transfers that said we wanted players who could step up to the Premier League but had the mentality to be productive in the Championship. I'm not sure Jutkiewicz has Premier League quality in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Telegraph saying that it is his last goal for Coventry and that he is likely to be on his way here. http://t.co/F1xMRk2A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 If he does sign, he does so as a backup which is a sign of confidence for our current strikers and also gives us some further depth. The fee, if ever disclosed, will be interesting to learn. What I am concerned about is the approach to transfers that said we wanted players who could step up to the Premier League but had the mentality to be productive in the Championship. I'm not sure Jutkiewicz has Premier League quality in that respect. In that vein Jonno Forte hasn't exactly shown championship quality, but my god that one real impact he made was priceless. If Adkins wants him that's good enough for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 In that vein Jonno Forte hasn't exactly shown championship quality, but my god that one real impact he made was priceless. If Adkins wants him that's good enough for me! Fair point, I just wonder where he fits in long-term. £3m is a lot to commit! That said, lets worry about Jutkiewicz and the Premier League if we do sign him and if we do get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 Does anyone know how good he actually is? How do the Coventry fans rate him? I said it about Jos, but £3m for a striker who doesn't exactly have a great record would be a little underwhelming. I was hoping we good lure in a quality(championship) striker now that we're in such a good position. Anyway if he does sign, I hope he proves me and all the other doubters wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 22 November, 2011 Share Posted 22 November, 2011 In that vein Jonno Forte hasn't exactly shown championship quality, but my god that one real impact he made was priceless. If Adkins wants him that's good enough for me! This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 November, 2011 Share Posted 23 November, 2011 Does anyone know how good he actually is? How do the Coventry fans rate him? I said it about Jos, but £3m for a striker who doesn't exactly have a great record would be a little underwhelming. I was hoping we good lure in a quality(championship) striker now that we're in such a good position. Anyway if he does sign, I hope he proves me and all the other doubters wrong. I don't think there is anything wrong with questioning whether he can make the step up. I hope he can challenge for a starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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