Marsdinho Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7284859/? We need to get Hooiveld on the bus permanently asap. With his form (and Celtic's poor form) I could well see him being recalled by Lennon. I was hoping that he was a "celtic reject" and wanted to turn his back on life north of the boarder and would be happy to set roots in Hampshire. However, it seems that come January he could well be off. Bad news, he has been great the last few games. We need a song for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He's done very well. Although he's never going to say "No, I don't want to go back to Celtic" is he? I get the feeling if he was given the option of first team there and first team here, he'd choose here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He has to say that, Celtic are ultimately his employer, if for any reason either through injury or otherwise we don't take him on in January he still has to go back to Celtic and try and continue his career. I'd love it if we bought him though. I reckon his price might have gone up with some solid performances and Nicola might think they're trying to take the pee and pull the plug, if we don't sign him that would probably by my bet as to why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 In my opinion we need to keep him. On the other hand I can now see Celtic trying to jack up the price and we all know that NC will not pay over the odds so I would surmise that Hooiveld is saying the right things in case things don't work out the way that I suspect he wants them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 1 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Yeah, he's obviously going to be diplomatic, but i can see him being wanted back up in Scotland as soon as the loan runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He could say he'd never go back to Celtic - that would be a way of pushing a move through. He's keeping his options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Cracking player. Really has shown that the Hoops fans havnt got a bloody clue. He is on the bus, but does he get off at the next stop or does he continue along the journey and see where it takes him...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if we negotiated a loan to buy clause anyway for this sort of situation. Hope we keep him though, he seems to really fit in well with everyone and has really gotten up to speed with the team nice and quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Why would someone choose Celtic? I don't get the motivation, it's an appalling league, you get to play poor football with worse players and usually in awful stadiums and freezing weather. Even if you manage to win the league, all you've done is achieve the bare minimum. With Saints he has the chance to win a far tougher competition and get promoted to a level Celtic and Rangers can only dream of. Celtic Park and Ibrox are pretty impressive stadiums to be fair and the football is not as poor as alot of people make out. Take that from someone who actually watches it. I'm sure both Old Firm have a better chance of Champions league and Europa league qualification than Saints do at the moment so that might be a factor. Saying that Saints should be able to make Celtic a decent offer for him in January hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/ We need a song for him. He's upped....his game, We can't pronounce his name. Jos Hoover, Jos Hooverrr!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 On a sidenote, interesting to see a former player of the season of ours on loan at Bradford! If Jos does go back to celtic, would love to see AD back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He's exceeded expectations since he joined and, as much as we all love Fonte, has become the first CB name on the teamsheet. A must sign imo, he looks so composed, and would definitely make the step up to the Premiership, should we get there next season. Fingers crossed Cortese can sort something out, as Jaidi is, sadly, at the end of his career and Seaborne still recuperating. That said, maybe he was a six month looan because Cortese or Adkins had a better target in mind in January... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 I think you will find, the wheels are already in motion....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 (edited) I think you will find, the wheels are already in motion....... What back to the slums of Glasgow or to a nice mansion in the New Forest? Edited 1 November, 2011 by adrian lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He's exceeded expectations since he joined and, as much as we all love Fonte, has become the first CB name on the teamsheet. A must sign imo, he looks so composed, and would definitely make the step up to the Premiership, should we get there next season. Fingers crossed Cortese can sort something out, as Jaidi is, sadly, at the end of his career and Seaborne still recuperating. That said, maybe he was a six month looan because Cortese or Adkins had a better target in mind in January... Agree, his form has made him a must sign for us fans. What concerns me is that I seem to recall reading that the deal for Liam Fontaine was left 'open' should he prove his fitness by January and maybe the reason Hooiveld was only signed until January was because we're planning to go back for Fontaine. I seriously hope not because I can't see what more Fontaine can offer us which Hooiveld cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 What back to the slums of Glasgow or to a nice mansion in the New Forest? Jos Tweeted the other week his view from the place he is staying at in Ocean Village and he said he rather likes the view and he could get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 they don't have palm trees in Glasgow so I can't see him returning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Celtic Park and Ibrox are pretty impressive stadiums to be fair and the football is not as poor as alot of people make out. Take that from someone who actually watches it. I'm sure both Old Firm have a better chance of Champions league and Europa league qualification than Saints do at the moment so that might be a factor. Saying that Saints should be able to make Celtic a decent offer for him in January hopefully. Exactly. The overall Standard of the Scottish top flight isn't all that different to the Championship and he'd have the chance to play in Cup Finals and european competition. Having said that he definitely seems to have settled down here and in my views he's chosen his words very carefully to pay lip service to Celtic, while not seeming overly bothered about being back up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Oh Fonte wants him to stay http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2501747,00.html "I keep telling him that the Championship is better than the Scottish league. I hope he listens!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 picked this up on a celtic forum think that it's pretty obvious to most that the problem at the club is the defence. For whatever reason, it's just not good enough. The first thing to do is to have a look at who we have available; Adam Matthews Emilio Izaguirre Badr El Kaddouri Daniel Majstorović Kelvin Wilson Cha Du-Ri Mark Wilson Charlie Mulgrew Glenn Loovens Thomas Rogne Lewis Toshney Jos Hooiveld (out on loan) Josh Thompson (out on loan) Darren O'Dea (out on loan) That's 14 defenders on our books, and to be honest, I think two of them are good enough to wear the jersey at present in Izaguirre & Wilson. So Jos is behind about 12 other defenders in the pecking order at Celtic. I reckon celtic might just want him of the books TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanW Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He's politically correct. I think the guy has bounced around between so many different clubs and organizations over his career that he's learned the hard way about how it's just business and he won't turn his back on anyone at anytime. He won't say something that could hurt his future elsewhere, so he's saying all the right things from his point of view. He also won't talk about how much he loves one club because he knows they could ship him off in a moment's notice. I bet that if SFC, Jos, and Celtic all agreed to make his loan permanent you'd hear a different interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He's politically correct. I think the guy has bounced around between so many different clubs and organizations over his career that he's learned the hard way about how it's just business and he won't turn his back on anyone at anytime. He won't say something that could hurt his future elsewhere, so he's saying all the right things from his point of view. He also won't talk about how much he loves one club because he knows they could ship him off in a moment's notice. I bet that if SFC, Jos, and Celtic all agreed to make his loan permanent you'd hear a different interview. So long as he mentions the palm trees in Southampton again I don't care what he said. The moment he spoke of the palm trees he was a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 From the initial comments in the link sounds to me like he would prefer to stay at Saints, clearly not impressed with Lennon and current set up. Clearly though he has to say he would be OK going back, otherwise if NA doesn;t want him he is out in the cold again. I would be surprised if he is not still with us in February, unless we have someone else even better already lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 On a sidenote, interesting to see a former player of the season of ours on loan at Bradford! If Jos does go back to celtic, would love to see AD back. Sent off twice in 3 games for them. Saturdays was for going two-footed thru the back of a player that wasnt receiving the ball. Add to that his appalling injury record. No thanks. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyh8r Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Top top guy off the field, very good to my boy after the game signing his shirt, programme and auotgraph book, I asked him if he was staying he smiled and said ' I hope so'. Straight from the horses mouth so to speak. I hope he does stay, I see the Jos and Jose partnership getting stronger and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Looks more like a case of not burning his bridges, I'd say he'd earn't a seat on the bus now. But that's up to NA & NC & if we can reach agreement with Celtic over a deal. He does seem to be a real rock at the back & he is a goal threat from set pieces. I hope he is still a Saint into the new year & beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7284859/? We need to get Hooiveld on the bus permanently asap. With his form (and Celtic's poor form) I could well see him being recalled by Lennon. I was hoping that he was a "celtic reject" and wanted to turn his back on life north of the boarder and would be happy to set roots in Hampshire. However, it seems that come January he could well be off. Bad news, he has been great the last few games. We need a song for him. Stay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He was a mowbary signing Lennon had no time for him and the celtic fans think he is a donkey TDont tell them but the donkey has now become a decent race horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Stay ? Oh baby won't you stay, and play another day, stay now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Next time he scores or puts in a top clearance/tackle: "Nigel! Sign him up! Nigel! Nigel! Sign Him Up!" Tried to get it going at Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 We have an option to buy, I was told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 It is good to see that following Celtic fans' appraisal of him and some of our fans being less than enthusiastic about him because of it, that Jos has steadily grown in stature here and is ramming it back down the doubters' throats. I hope that he does sign for us, as he and Fonte seem to be forging a friendship and an understanding that has potential to become our Killer/Lundekvam mark 2 pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7284859/? We need to get Hooiveld on the bus permanently asap. With his form (and Celtic's poor form) I could well see him being recalled by Lennon. I was hoping that he was a "celtic reject" and wanted to turn his back on life north of the boarder and would be happy to set roots in Hampshire. However, it seems that come January he could well be off. Bad news, he has been great the last few games. We need a song for him. As much as i'm very pleased with Hooiveld, I will remain guarded as We NEEDED to get Marek Saganowski on the bus permananet once upon a time.....we all know what happened to him once he got signed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 I think you will find, the wheels are already in motion....... We will only "find" if you tell us where to look... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Bart -No.1 Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 We have an option to buy, I was told. I heard we had been following him for a while but were not keen on Celtic's valuation ,so got him on a "try before you buy deal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 At the end of the day, it's up to Celtic if they want him back. However, I do think we'll make some top signings in Jan to have a team to get us to, and stay in, the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 He may have scored a goal recently but I thought he wasn't that great against Middlesbrough. He was the only player who panicked under pressure and he kept just hoofing it up the field all game. I think Adkins can get us a better CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if we negotiated a loan to buy clause anyway for this sort of situation. Hope we keep him though, he seems to really fit in well with everyone and has really gotten up to speed with the team nice and quickly. I think we did negotiate a buy option at the end of the loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 hmmmmm dont know what to make of that, surely in this day and age if he wants to stay he will stay? contract or no contract... isnt that what they always say 'if a player wants to leave ...theres not much we can do about it...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyboy Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Sign him up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Just said on Solent he is very open to staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 1 November, 2011 Share Posted 1 November, 2011 Not only does he need to be diplomatic because he is still a Celtic player, he also has to watch what he says in front of NA and NC. They won't want to hear anything from him that would sound unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 November, 2011 Share Posted 2 November, 2011 He may have scored a goal recently but I thought he wasn't that great against Middlesbrough. He was the only player who panicked under pressure and he kept just hoofing it up the field all game. I think Adkins can get us a better CB. Me too he played OK last night against Peterborough but nowhere as good as Fonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 2 November, 2011 Share Posted 2 November, 2011 Hoiveld if you've got to go away Don't think I can take the pain Oh won't you play a load more games Don't leave Jose alone like this Can't you see it's defensive bliss Oh won't you play a load more games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 2 November, 2011 Share Posted 2 November, 2011 If this world is wearing thin And you're thinking of escape Nigel will go anywhere with you Jos wrap me up in chains But if you try to go alone Don't think Nigel will understand Stay with Nige Stay with Nige In the silence of your room In the darkness of your dreams You must only think of Nige There can be no in between When your pride is on the floor I'll make you beg for more Stay with Nige Stay with Nige You'd better hope and pray That you make it safe Back to your own world You'd better hope and pray That you'll wake one day In your own world Coz when you sleep at night They don't hear your cries In your own world Only time will tell If you can break the spell Back in your own world Stay with Nige Stay with Nige Stay, stay with Nige Stay, stay, stay, stay, stay Stay with Nige No need to thank me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 2 November, 2011 Share Posted 2 November, 2011 Our Jos, in the middle of defence, our Jos, in the middle of defence..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 November, 2011 Share Posted 2 November, 2011 He was interviewed on Solent last night after the game, they asked him if he would like to extend his stay and he said that he would. Sign him up. He's been brilliant for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 2 November, 2011 Share Posted 2 November, 2011 On Saintsfc.co.uk we have the article 'Fonte eyes Jos stay' then we have 'Jos Bossing it'. I ask myself why would you put out articles like this unless your teasing the fans. I think this is a bit of foreplay before they tell us that he's signed. They'll probably tell us the day before a big match. I think Jos is a done deal and I'll be chatting to him on Saturday and will confirm to you next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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